You are replying to my post about it being a success to me and how OSS doesn't need to be popular to be a success.
Being "Not profitable" is not the same as making money.
On the revenue front, Canonical’s fiscal year runs April 2010 to March 2011. Asay predicts Canonical will “do multiples over what we did last year. We’re starting from a good [revenue] number and we’ll do several times more than in the previous year.”
If Asay says they predict to make more money then last year how can you argue with that? Since they're an ltd anyway there's no way for you or I to know.
Your replies have included how it doesn't work on your hardware and some weird stats on linux popularity which I have no interest in anyway since my post was about how popularity doesn't equal success. Also web stats tell nothing about computer usage. So some % of linux users didn't get counted in the past two months.. meaningless data that you're trying to give meaning to.
Getting back on topic.. you basically didn't read my original post to begin with at all.
So I insulted you.. I called you "a whiner", and you are. You completely ignored any context to my post and went on a rant about how Ubuntu doesn't work on your laptop and because it doesn't work on your laptop it's the end of days! users are dropping like flies because Kjella can't get his laptop to work!
You complain about me insulting you then call me a "fucking retard" and a "pathetic prick". Seems to me a bit of a double standard and really you deserved being called a whiner the way you replied out of context to anything I said.
Also I'm not trying to get rid of you.. YOU YOURSELF SAID YOU DO NOT WANT TO USE IT! SO DON'T!
I dual boot to Windows 7 and I'm seriously considering abandoning Linux and just run Windows
If some thing isn't working for you to the point where you can write a four paragraphed drama piece about how it sucks so bad.. why do you bother to continue using it?!
In conclusion I think the linux community can live without negative people like yourself which contributes nothing but whining. I on the other hand have at least tried to fix problems rather then give ultimatums about going back to windows if my unique situation isn't fixed.
I disagree, they're more private companies doing space in the US today you can't just look at NASA and come to the conclusion that space travel in the US is dead.
I dual boot to Windows 7 and I'm seriously considering abandoning Linux and just run Windows + as much open source software as I can on top.
Then just do that.
Ubuntu is still a success for me however much it sucks for you. It's year of the desktop for ME. It will never be year of the desktop for YOU. Obviously your laptop was built for windows, just use that.
Ubuntu is a success for canonical as well. I have read on Mark's blog about him striking deals for 10,000 desktop OS replacements and Canonical is making money without needing Mark's millions any more.
Ubuntu doesn't need billions of users like windows has to be a success. The users are content, canonical is happy. The only people complaining are the whiners like you whose trying to use Ubuntu on some weird hardware configuration and the parent who most likely doesn't even use the OS.
Good thing about OSS is that it doesn't need high market share to be a success. The people who use Ubuntu on a daily basis are quite happy with their desktops, but don't let that stop you from whining about how it's not acceptable to YOU.
First, problem with what you said is that it's not in the same market sector. It's a video projector not a media player.
Second, "pod" is an actual word. Just because they've slapped an i on the front of it doesn't mean they're allowed ownership over an entire word. Replace the word "Pod" with Plane, sandwich, whatever and it makes just as much nonsense.
Not only this but the GP fails to account for the medium it is being transferred over. How is it a very ineffective way to learn something over the internet for people seeking out the information in the first place. Absolute nonsense.
Yes, you can waffle on in an ebook but then you'd get significantly less people interested which is counter productive to what the presenter is trying to do.
the fuck? Explain how a digital book differs at all from a hard copy book? Explain how a digital book gets to restrict first sale rights which came into law to stop publishers doing exactly what they're doing with digital books.
Stop hiding behind bullshit buzzwords to get your point across.
No you're doing the stupid thing of "..... on the internet". It's no different then books apart from it's digital. A good example of this is with the eReaders they're in fact denying your first sale rights on simply because they're digital.
The only reason they're not foot stomped on by the government is because they pretend it's different and the laws don't apply to them.
If you do indeed want to watch legally obtained DVD's on a linux laptop, you won't be using DeCSS. DeCSS is illegal software according to the US courts.
YES! I no longer submit bug reports because of this. To date I've probably submitted about 50+ reports on Ubuntu and ALL of them are either ignored until they've become irrelevant or are simply ignored. I have a couple that I submitted 2+ years ago without any response. I submitted some while the latest LTS was in development, no response.
Canonical just keeps coming up with new ways to ignore users. See the latest "opinion" status in launchpad. Any bug marked opinion gets ignored from the devs. You no longer receive updates about a bug with it marked. Even worse, some users change bugs to this status without realising what it does.
Even basic functionality that should be working by default gets shipped broken to meet their deadlines. Latest thing for me is the CD copying. Expect to see a lot of stuff broken to meet their 10/10/10 deadline. There is no way in hell they'll miss that deadline.
I've been a long long time user of Ubuntu but I get more and more angry at these new releases where things are left broken simply to meet release deadlines. Even with these issues I still use it however but more because I'm lazy to switch to something new and have to learn a new bunch of problems.
Here's some things you probably don't realise about Ubuntu:
- Filing bugs in launchpad is a complete waste of time as they never get fixed or a response unless it is UI related. What ubuntu simply does is wait until upstream have fixed an issue then upgrade to that version. It's the reason they want to push their bugs upstream and have developed launchpad to do just that; to absolve themselves from all responsibility.
- Ubuntu takes most of their packages from Debian. They don't spend much effort on actually packaging software. You said they do a damn fine job. NO THEY DON'T. Debian does. In fact most of the issues I've experienced are when Ubuntu decides to change a package but those are rare.
So basically the situation we have is Ubuntu is maintained by a small team of paid staff and hundreds of volunteers, all bugs get forwarded upstream, all packages taken from Debian apart from when they decided to change a package in which case they have their patches.
So out of this what exactly it is that Canonical gives back? Well there are translations, bug reports, the launchpad tracker (the site software, not the website; which doesn't work standalone, the whole thing is setup to only develop for their site), UI improvements (which they've been criticised for not merging upstream), bazaar and probably some other things.
I personally don't care if Canonical contributes anything back upstream however credit where it's due they don't seem to be doing much compared to other companies in the linux distro arena. The problem however is when they say they do; or people like you credit them for things they don't do such as providing good packaged software.
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You are replying to my post about it being a success to me and how OSS doesn't need to be popular to be a success.
Being "Not profitable" is not the same as making money.
If Asay says they predict to make more money then last year how can you argue with that? Since they're an ltd anyway there's no way for you or I to know.
Your replies have included how it doesn't work on your hardware and some weird stats on linux popularity which I have no interest in anyway since my post was about how popularity doesn't equal success. Also web stats tell nothing about computer usage. So some % of linux users didn't get counted in the past two months.. meaningless data that you're trying to give meaning to.
Getting back on topic.. you basically didn't read my original post to begin with at all.
So I insulted you.. I called you "a whiner", and you are. You completely ignored any context to my post and went on a rant about how Ubuntu doesn't work on your laptop and because it doesn't work on your laptop it's the end of days! users are dropping like flies because Kjella can't get his laptop to work!
You complain about me insulting you then call me a "fucking retard" and a "pathetic prick". Seems to me a bit of a double standard and really you deserved being called a whiner the way you replied out of context to anything I said.
Also I'm not trying to get rid of you.. YOU YOURSELF SAID YOU DO NOT WANT TO USE IT! SO DON'T!
If some thing isn't working for you to the point where you can write a four paragraphed drama piece about how it sucks so bad.. why do you bother to continue using it?!
In conclusion I think the linux community can live without negative people like yourself which contributes nothing but whining. I on the other hand have at least tried to fix problems rather then give ultimatums about going back to windows if my unique situation isn't fixed.
I disagree, they're more private companies doing space in the US today you can't just look at NASA and come to the conclusion that space travel in the US is dead.
Then just do that.
Ubuntu is still a success for me however much it sucks for you. It's year of the desktop for ME. It will never be year of the desktop for YOU. Obviously your laptop was built for windows, just use that.
Ubuntu is a success for canonical as well. I have read on Mark's blog about him striking deals for 10,000 desktop OS replacements and Canonical is making money without needing Mark's millions any more.
Ubuntu doesn't need billions of users like windows has to be a success. The users are content, canonical is happy. The only people complaining are the whiners like you whose trying to use Ubuntu on some weird hardware configuration and the parent who most likely doesn't even use the OS.
I'd laugh my ass off if China went to the moon, kicked down the American flag and put up their own.
Good thing about OSS is that it doesn't need high market share to be a success. The people who use Ubuntu on a daily basis are quite happy with their desktops, but don't let that stop you from whining about how it's not acceptable to YOU.
Indeed, I wonder why someone hasn't made Minecraft in sauerbraten already. It would look 10 times better and run much faster too.
First, problem with what you said is that it's not in the same market sector. It's a video projector not a media player.
Second, "pod" is an actual word. Just because they've slapped an i on the front of it doesn't mean they're allowed ownership over an entire word. Replace the word "Pod" with Plane, sandwich, whatever and it makes just as much nonsense.
So you arrive at the drop off station after you've drawn a penis on the thing, they notice and they call the police. What's the problem?
Not only this but the GP fails to account for the medium it is being transferred over. How is it a very ineffective way to learn something over the internet for people seeking out the information in the first place. Absolute nonsense.
Obvious he isn't otherwise he'd still be doing it.
What would you have picked then?
In 35 degrees you could simply have a combination of tinted windows, ventilation and solar powered assistance or air conditioning.
Yes, you can waffle on in an ebook but then you'd get significantly less people interested which is counter productive to what the presenter is trying to do.
It's my understanding that mars has very little atmosphere so this thing would be useless.
and how does what you say relate in anyway to:
1) The story?
2) The GPP troll?
How can you say they're slower when they've just announced them?! There is no possible way you have demoed these 6 core chips.
the fuck? Explain how a digital book differs at all from a hard copy book? Explain how a digital book gets to restrict first sale rights which came into law to stop publishers doing exactly what they're doing with digital books.
Stop hiding behind bullshit buzzwords to get your point across.
No you're doing the stupid thing of "..... on the internet". It's no different then books apart from it's digital. A good example of this is with the eReaders they're in fact denying your first sale rights on simply because they're digital.
The only reason they're not foot stomped on by the government is because they pretend it's different and the laws don't apply to them.
Well our company bought them for backups. Daily backups, weekly backups, monthly backups, etc..
Wrong: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=243
Brasero comes DEFAULT INSTALLED IN UBUNTU. It's basic functionality that's broken in the DEFAULT INSTALL.
but don't let that stop you from throw insults simply for pointing out errors in your favourite distro.
YES! I no longer submit bug reports because of this. To date I've probably submitted about 50+ reports on Ubuntu and ALL of them are either ignored until they've become irrelevant or are simply ignored. I have a couple that I submitted 2+ years ago without any response. I submitted some while the latest LTS was in development, no response.
Canonical just keeps coming up with new ways to ignore users. See the latest "opinion" status in launchpad. Any bug marked opinion gets ignored from the devs. You no longer receive updates about a bug with it marked. Even worse, some users change bugs to this status without realising what it does.
Even basic functionality that should be working by default gets shipped broken to meet their deadlines. Latest thing for me is the CD copying. Expect to see a lot of stuff broken to meet their 10/10/10 deadline. There is no way in hell they'll miss that deadline.
Can you copy CDs again yet? Brasero has been broken in LTS (and apparently Meerkat) since it launched.
I've been a long long time user of Ubuntu but I get more and more angry at these new releases where things are left broken simply to meet release deadlines. Even with these issues I still use it however but more because I'm lazy to switch to something new and have to learn a new bunch of problems.
Here's some things you probably don't realise about Ubuntu:
- Filing bugs in launchpad is a complete waste of time as they never get fixed or a response unless it is UI related. What ubuntu simply does is wait until upstream have fixed an issue then upgrade to that version. It's the reason they want to push their bugs upstream and have developed launchpad to do just that; to absolve themselves from all responsibility.
- Ubuntu takes most of their packages from Debian. They don't spend much effort on actually packaging software. You said they do a damn fine job. NO THEY DON'T. Debian does. In fact most of the issues I've experienced are when Ubuntu decides to change a package but those are rare.
So basically the situation we have is Ubuntu is maintained by a small team of paid staff and hundreds of volunteers, all bugs get forwarded upstream, all packages taken from Debian apart from when they decided to change a package in which case they have their patches.
So out of this what exactly it is that Canonical gives back? Well there are translations, bug reports, the launchpad tracker (the site software, not the website; which doesn't work standalone, the whole thing is setup to only develop for their site), UI improvements (which they've been criticised for not merging upstream), bazaar and probably some other things.
I personally don't care if Canonical contributes anything back upstream however credit where it's due they don't seem to be doing much compared to other companies in the linux distro arena. The problem however is when they say they do; or people like you credit them for things they don't do such as providing good packaged software.
Why does it have to be GNU/Linux anyway? Why not Linux/GNU?
Without Linux, GNU would be worthless so it's less important then linux. Hence people call it Linux.
Translation: I have generated a million bit coins and now want everyone to use it so I can get shit for free..
Not going to happen. No one wants to buy into your pyramid scheme.