No, the crucial difference is that one company (Google) is bringing much more open source hack-ability to phones by different manufacturers where as one company is exploiting open source advocates to sell old over priced phones, "Don't worry the next one will work, we promise".
I can't believe there are already plans for the GTA03 when the GTA01 and 02 don't even fully work yet. Sinking ship? I think so.
I did notice this nice little notice on that page of yours..
Speculations: This article or section documents a device that is not yet confirmed formally and the device (if even released) may differ from the specifications given here. This page is based on well educated guesses, not facts.
You come here and say they'll replace the closed source stuff with open source in the GTA03 however you've got no proof, it even says so on the wiki.
The crucial difference is that the openmoko hardware doesn't require closed source kernel drivers, and the hardware directly driven by the kernel has open specs
and I am sure all 2 people that care about kernel access are happy. It will be really useful when they plug new hardware into the phone's board. Enjoy your sinking ship while it lasts.
The OpenMoko isn't truly open either so I don't get your point.
There is hardware in the openMoko you can not access either. The only difference I see here is that openMoko has had a head start over android and they still have only one phone which you can not use for phone calls whereas android have numerous phones coming out and (this is the most important part) the phone works.
Not only all this however the android's line up are good phones with standard features such as having a camera. There was no way I could justify buying a substandard phone such as the openMoko just because it had more open source stuff.
With the Android package I can easily buy that phone because it has much better features then the phone I already have, an A1200 motorola which even though it's a closed source Linux phone older then the moko still beats it hands down.
and I'll ask you what makes you so sure of the opposite? Where is your peer reviewed proof?
Here is mine..
"Mobile phone signals were found to have no significant effects on either cognitive measures, such as reaction times, or other measures of brain activity. At present there appears to be no need for further studies of cognitive performance or brain activity in healthy adult volunteers."
If you think the radiation in phones is going to give you a brain tumor then you'd better also not let sun light touch you because it's the same type of radiation!
Now the bad kind of radiation, that'll kill you, but you're also forgetting that your exposed to that too, it comes from space.
Lastly, everyone has a phone. Don't you think that if it was a big health risk that 90% of the population would be dying off by now like obesity is doing? Use your head!
Because despite the propaganda from various cell phones makers, there's more and more evidence coming out that tends to show it's not very healthy to carry one over you for long stretches of time.
*rolls eyes*
and what might that be? If you say radiation, hand in your geek card and get the fuck out.
Well it's about source code so I guess the name source needs to be in there.. I guess the code would need to be open so that people can judge it.. how about "open source" sounds good to me, what do you think?
The code in question, TR does have value. It's a whole MMO game which if released would allow people to play their MMO again. The only reason it's being canned is because of maintenance costs.
Code DOES have value, it takes a long time to create a MMO or any game for that matter and most of that time is with the assets rather then the code.
What crap, they said that after I had already downloaded the whole 3 Gig iso for just 1 meg. Damn annoying but all I did was put the files in and it worked, proving that all they have done is waste my time and piss me off. Then they try to convince me it won't work after I already did it? Morons..
You obviously didn't notice this but they assumed that because I can't understand the Thai language that I should have to pay more money for another version, even though EA support Thailand probably makes more money then me.
"£8.5, while you have to pay for £35 in UK."
I have no idea why they're talking about the UK as I never mentioned I am from England. This is typical Thai behaviour, rip off the white guy.
You might not think this is a big deal, but for me it is. I am tired of getting charged high prices because of my skin color. When I buy a game from an international company I at least expect them not to say the equivalent of "You, white guy, go buy more expensive version".
I had to pirate the game after buying it in Thailand (I live there) because EA support refused to give me the English language (1.3 meg of files)
Dear *******,
Sorry for the inconvenience, but Spore Thai retail version support only Thai language as indicate on the package. And there's no English text file include in the build.
You are right, that's very inconvenient and can't believe you are telling me to go buy this game twice for just 3 files that total up to 1 Megabyte.
You have left me no choice but to download the game off the internet and get the three files in need to put into the "Locale" folder. I find it frustrating that I have to pirate EA games I have bought to be able to play them.
I hope that in the future you will provide a better service to your customers that are buying your products instead of leaving it up to internet pirates to provide support for your games.
Regards, ******
.....
Dear *******,
All AAA EA titles in Thailand are localized to Thai language. All are locked preventing user to change the language. We have this language switching protection to prevent our goods being export to other territories due to the cheaper price on Thai products. As for Spore, retail price in Thailand is only £8.5, while you have to pay for £35 in UK.
We also aware that people can get the locale file from the internet. But it is against our policy to provide you the locale files from our side.
We hope you understand and sorry again for the inconvenience.
Best Regards, EA Thailand Support
and why the fuck should I care if it's more expensive in the UK if I don't live there? In fact why do they mention the UK at all?
WHY RESPOND! I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHY YOUR FUCKING ME OVER FOR THREE FILES!!!
There's a time and place for everything, we're here to discuss new's, not the finer point's of the English language to people to whom English probably isn't even their native language.
Stop wasting everyone's time having to read and skip your post's. Get on talking about why Multicore is bad.
The only people who correct English here are dumbfuck's that have nothing to add about the article.
Spelling mistake's added on purpose because it pisse's you off.
No that's bullshit, greenpeace scared the governments into dumping the rice (rice you can't plant in africa) which could have fed millions due to the whole GM FUD.
Environmentalists have killed millions of people who have starved to death just to forward their agenda on GM food.
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Where did you get the 70% mark from? I'd be interested in reading that info or are you guessing based on the Apple app store?
No, the crucial difference is that one company (Google) is bringing much more open source hack-ability to phones by different manufacturers where as one company is exploiting open source advocates to sell old over priced phones, "Don't worry the next one will work, we promise".
I can't believe there are already plans for the GTA03 when the GTA01 and 02 don't even fully work yet. Sinking ship? I think so.
I did notice this nice little notice on that page of yours..
You come here and say they'll replace the closed source stuff with open source in the GTA03 however you've got no proof, it even says so on the wiki.
and I am sure all 2 people that care about kernel access are happy. It will be really useful when they plug new hardware into the phone's board. Enjoy your sinking ship while it lasts.
I have no other words for this apart from, "What the fuck?"
I don't understand what that's got to do with only allowing free apps...
You got it the wrong way round, the manufacturer has to make sure it meets FCC standards.
Not only that however you can only submit applications to the marketplace for free.
You can't charge for apps yet which seems weird that I have to pay money for the privilege of writing and giving Google free distribution rights.
The OpenMoko isn't truly open either so I don't get your point.
There is hardware in the openMoko you can not access either. The only difference I see here is that openMoko has had a head start over android and they still have only one phone which you can not use for phone calls whereas android have numerous phones coming out and (this is the most important part) the phone works.
Not only all this however the android's line up are good phones with standard features such as having a camera. There was no way I could justify buying a substandard phone such as the openMoko just because it had more open source stuff.
With the Android package I can easily buy that phone because it has much better features then the phone I already have, an A1200 motorola which even though it's a closed source Linux phone older then the moko still beats it hands down.
and I'll ask you what makes you so sure of the opposite? Where is your peer reviewed proof?
Here is mine..
"Mobile phone signals were found to have no significant effects on either cognitive measures, such as reaction times, or other measures of brain activity. At present there appears to be no need for further studies of cognitive performance or brain activity in healthy adult volunteers."
http://www.mthr.org.uk/documents/MTHR_report_2007.pdf
If you think the radiation in phones is going to give you a brain tumor then you'd better also not let sun light touch you because it's the same type of radiation!
Now the bad kind of radiation, that'll kill you, but you're also forgetting that your exposed to that too, it comes from space.
Lastly, everyone has a phone. Don't you think that if it was a big health risk that 90% of the population would be dying off by now like obesity is doing? Use your head!
I don't understand why you're modded troll, this confused me too.
It's "fuck bastards" right? It just doesn't feel right in the context given.
*rolls eyes*
and what might that be? If you say radiation, hand in your geek card and get the fuck out.
Sounds good, what shall we call it?
Well it's about source code so I guess the name source needs to be in there.. I guess the code would need to be open so that people can judge it.. how about "open source" sounds good to me, what do you think?
because NCSoft killed the project. Lots of people still play TR it's just a lame executive decision..
The code in question, TR does have value. It's a whole MMO game which if released would allow people to play their MMO again. The only reason it's being canned is because of maintenance costs.
Code DOES have value, it takes a long time to create a MMO or any game for that matter and most of that time is with the assets rather then the code.
Yeah, they responded with bullshit..
"Language locked"?
What crap, they said that after I had already downloaded the whole 3 Gig iso for just 1 meg. Damn annoying but all I did was put the files in and it worked, proving that all they have done is waste my time and piss me off. Then they try to convince me it won't work after I already did it? Morons..
You obviously didn't notice this but they assumed that because I can't understand the Thai language that I should have to pay more money for another version, even though EA support Thailand probably makes more money then me.
"£8.5, while you have to pay for £35 in UK."
I have no idea why they're talking about the UK as I never mentioned I am from England. This is typical Thai behaviour, rip off the white guy.
You might not think this is a big deal, but for me it is. I am tired of getting charged high prices because of my skin color. When I buy a game from an international company I at least expect them not to say the equivalent of "You, white guy, go buy more expensive version".
I had to pirate the game after buying it in Thailand (I live there) because EA support refused to give me the English language (1.3 meg of files)
and why the fuck should I care if it's more expensive in the UK if I don't live there? In fact why do they mention the UK at all?
WHY RESPOND! I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHY YOUR FUCKING ME OVER FOR THREE FILES!!!
Is there a way to even register a static ipv6 address?
It's a good thing that it's backward compatible then isn't it?
All you're suggesting is hacks for ipv4, you've completely missed the point.
This is a really big problem and many applications are forced to implement NAT-punch through to get around the archaic system we have.
Problem is morons that come along thinking NAT == security and that IPv6 is going to let everyone see their boxes on the internet. *facepalm*
There's a time and place for everything, we're here to discuss new's, not the finer point's of the English language to people to whom English probably isn't even their native language.
Stop wasting everyone's time having to read and skip your post's. Get on talking about why Multicore is bad.
The only people who correct English here are dumbfuck's that have nothing to add about the article.
Spelling mistake's added on purpose because it pisse's you off.
This is slashdot, our professions are computer related not literature based. You're on the wrong website.
No that's bullshit, greenpeace scared the governments into dumping the rice (rice you can't plant in africa) which could have fed millions due to the whole GM FUD.
Environmentalists have killed millions of people who have starved to death just to forward their agenda on GM food.
Check out the video I posted in other comments.
It's too bad that you didn't watch the whole video, then you could see how greenpeace lies about the whole issue, about how a lot of it's bullshit.
Just like what I suspected as soon as an environmentalist sees something which they disagree with, even if it's a fact they'll blindly ignore it.
Thanks for reconfirming how lame you guys are, oh and the save the children shit at the end of your post is really touching. *rolleyes*
Show me the code in GCC which adds exploits or shut the fuck up. I'm sick of reading you people's paranoid delusions about compiler exploits.