No, Ubuntu, Mint, KNOPPIX.... are meta distributions based on Debian - as they are distributions of the distribution called Debian. Debian is just a distribution.
And no, they have never been more important to Debian than itself as a distribution. They merely acknowledge the meta distributions - which some other base distributions don't.
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
Actually, all religions that are not history centric are compatible with atheism, and at least some other religions. Definition of history centric as in - http://creative.sulekha.com/my...
Buddhism so much so, that it is almost an atheistic religion if you ignore the later schools like Mahayana.
Fedora is never supported for over 18 months. I've run some for 20 months, never faced this. Updates dry up, so effects after that wouldn't be possible.
But the companies even HAVING the keys is a backdoor. Which is the context he is presumably speaking from - that Apple no more can help the government against the citizens, it's just between government, courts, and the suspected citizens.
The discussion was about monopoly. TFA is about bundling. Monopoly, bundling and exclusivity cause each other, in some ways. How can it be NOT relevant ?
And you fail security 101. Entry (or exit) point security is useful only if they are fast. If enough people accumulate at those points, whole security becomes useless.
Unless, of course, the security is of something else, but that is not very relevant here.
My point is nothing more and nothing less than what I said. Your this post is invalid. Partner exclusivity, having strong relation with (potentially illegal) bundling, is not "something else" when (potentially illegal) bundling is being discussed.
No one said "anti-trust issues with preloading software on a monopoly platform" except you. "Monopoly abuse" started it in this particular thread, and preloading, partner exclusivity all are being discussed in that context. All are ways in which monopoly can be abused, probably are. In fact partner exclusivity agreements can be used to aid illegal, or at least immoral preloading.
Yes, some HTC apps were said to be good - though on short inspection I found their UI illogical but eye candy was nice. I've used Motorola Android phones - their blur is detested by many. Their applications were very stable, but with spartan features.
Anyway, most OEMs can make very simple acceptable software, or slightly complex bad software, or complex shit software. The lock-in comes from complex software - parts of which reside in the "cloud" which are insanely complex. Beyond capabilities of most OEMs in their wildest dreams.
Their any hope to compete with the big 4 - Google/Microsoft/Apple/Amazon in the software department is in a next generation Symbian. The half-hearted attempts of Samsung as ShakaUVM mentions don't even begin to address the gap.
The problem for people who don't drink the Google kool-aid is that hardly anyone is working on the AOSP versions of most apps
Google isn't either. More and more, they are replacing the AOSP software with "Google" software. Without publicizing that now they are all closed source, while still reaping publicity benefits of Android's earlier image of open source. Sneaky.
terrible UI and doesn't integrate nicely with the rest of the system. There are a couple of sync adaptors, but Google has increasingly broken the sync APIs
Currently I am using the local calendar adapter for Google calendar, from F-droid. Works well. There is a similar CalDAV adapter too - doesn't it work nicely with owncloud? I was hoping to use it some day.
Anyway, that was my point. Google and the other big 4, really do good UI - much as I hate to expose my data for their inspection.
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No, Ubuntu, Mint, KNOPPIX.... are meta distributions based on Debian - as they are distributions of the distribution called Debian. Debian is just a distribution.
And no, they have never been more important to Debian than itself as a distribution. They merely acknowledge the meta distributions - which some other base distributions don't.
I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice
What keybinding, if any, did people use to launch the command prompt / "start menu" ? Any false attempts that are frequent across users?
OK, genius. How come less walruses came to shore when less sea ice was available?
Without denying AGW, the following conclusions can not be drawn from this event:
"This happened due to global warming"
How does such a Christian reconcile with a lion eating a man?
Or viral/bacterial epidemic?
Actually, all religions that are not history centric are compatible with atheism, and at least some other religions. Definition of history centric as in - http://creative.sulekha.com/my...
Buddhism so much so, that it is almost an atheistic religion if you ignore the later schools like Mahayana.
Your idiocy is increasing. Meta loop from here - http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Packages don't guarantee good cleanup, but it is easy to inspect a package to figure out if it does proper cleanup. Goes for deb and rpm.
OK, loop from here - http://slashdot.org/comments.p...
Look, you're a tool, so you wouldn't know, but when we humans discuss something, mentioning the cause of an issue is considered relevant. Just a tip.
Fedora is never supported for over 18 months. I've run some for 20 months, never faced this. Updates dry up, so effects after that wouldn't be possible.
If you loop from there, you will find all.
Go on, loop from there. There will be no need to post.
But the companies even HAVING the keys is a backdoor. Which is the context he is presumably speaking from - that Apple no more can help the government against the citizens, it's just between government, courts, and the suspected citizens.
Ok, loop from here.
the discussion is about abusing a monopoly to ....
Blah blah blah blah. By now if you can't get the concepts in single words each, better give up.
The discussion was about monopoly. TFA is about bundling. Monopoly, bundling and exclusivity cause each other, in some ways. How can it be NOT relevant ?
And you fail security 101. Entry (or exit) point security is useful only if they are fast. If enough people accumulate at those points, whole security becomes useless.
Unless, of course, the security is of something else, but that is not very relevant here.
My point is nothing more and nothing less than what I said. Your this post is invalid. Partner exclusivity, having strong relation with (potentially illegal) bundling, is not "something else" when (potentially illegal) bundling is being discussed.
If two points are related and affect each other, why do you exclude one when the other is being discussed? Except because you are an idiot, of course.
So, idiot, you didn't read "partner exclusivity agreements can be used to aid illegal, or at least immoral preloading".
No one said "anti-trust issues with preloading software on a monopoly platform" except you. "Monopoly abuse" started it in this particular thread, and preloading, partner exclusivity all are being discussed in that context. All are ways in which monopoly can be abused, probably are. In fact partner exclusivity agreements can be used to aid illegal, or at least immoral preloading.
Stop being an idiot.
Then it wouldn't be factory reset, using a definition that will be useful to many people.
Yes, some HTC apps were said to be good - though on short inspection I found their UI illogical but eye candy was nice. I've used Motorola Android phones - their blur is detested by many. Their applications were very stable, but with spartan features.
Anyway, most OEMs can make very simple acceptable software, or slightly complex bad software, or complex shit software. The lock-in comes from complex software - parts of which reside in the "cloud" which are insanely complex. Beyond capabilities of most OEMs in their wildest dreams.
Their any hope to compete with the big 4 - Google/Microsoft/Apple/Amazon in the software department is in a next generation Symbian. The half-hearted attempts of Samsung as ShakaUVM mentions don't even begin to address the gap.
The problem for people who don't drink the Google kool-aid is that hardly anyone is working on the AOSP versions of most apps
Google isn't either. More and more, they are replacing the AOSP software with "Google" software. Without publicizing that now they are all closed source, while still reaping publicity benefits of Android's earlier image of open source. Sneaky.
terrible UI and doesn't integrate nicely with the rest of the system. There are a couple of sync adaptors, but Google has increasingly broken the sync APIs
Currently I am using the local calendar adapter for Google calendar, from F-droid. Works well. There is a similar CalDAV adapter too - doesn't it work nicely with owncloud? I was hoping to use it some day.
Anyway, that was my point. Google and the other big 4, really do good UI - much as I hate to expose my data for their inspection.