Void warranty - yes. For those who flash a custom ROM, it is typically trivial to flash back the original ROM, so it is possible to take most advantages of the warranty. But, of course, it is against the warranty contract.
Hack - depends on the definition of "hack". Samsung hasn't released a bootloader locked Android phone device in 2 years. HTC hasn't released such device in slightly less than 2 years. Sony has an application on their own website to open bootloaders for most of their Android phones.
Yes, you still have to do the fastboot, or adb, or some such method. It can be called "hacking". It is likely to take less than 20 minutes to do safely by even a slightly competent user even if inexperienced in this sense. But bootloader locked devices are not very common these days - because of these 3 companies which are dominant.
Wow! Such technology illiteracy and you are on Slashdot?
99% of electronic devices are hacked / rooted / jailbroken within a month of public release. Rest are typically not popular enough. There. End of your technological iliterate dream involving Google being the only technically capable entity in the Universe.
In the real world, where any other company than Google is free to create such glasses, their glasses are free from such restrictions. So will get more popular, just because of more convenience. Going with your philosophy, all restaurant owners need to inform all the manufacturers of such devices. All of them need to support the complicated override, contact owner etc.
Now the owner has no privacy from Google - if he wants reasonable privacy for his customers, he must provide his contact information, address etc. with Google. Nice "rent" for Google right there, just for creating such a device.
And the visible shutter can be replaced with dark glass except for a little hole with clear glass for the lens. And all light will be prevented from entering between "shutter" and rest of the device, leaving the clear glass portion visibly black to casual observers.
And how will you know when someone is spying and when someone is just using Google Glass for its AR features?
I do see that usage of Google glasses is a moral grey area, and society is trying to come to terms with it. But AR features? From my understanding of Google glass, at least some one is recording, and Google could even be saving the footage. It is at least analyzing the footage "to enhance your experience".
I don't understand how allowing Google to spy is morally better than spying oneself. I see these two as both morally better and worse than each other, in different ways.
If the camera is on, moral problem remains the same - whether for recording or AR.
"that". Means going through a thread. Much different from replying to your zero content rubbish. I already notice that his point is somewhat different from yours, need to read more of the thread context, though. You're too thick to get that, of course.
No, it confirms I don't jump into threads without going through them, and right now I don't have time for that. I also assert that which threads I jump into is none of your business. If you have an argument, make it, or STFU.
What do you expect my response to be? That when I am replying to you my stance would be different from that when you quote me elsewhere? I cannot comprehend the enormity of confusion of ideas that would lead you to such a question.
Uh? Are you playing "give question for this answer" game?
"One name of the Samsung Android phone from last 2 years, and my entire theory would be shattered to itty bitty pieces. But 100 links for simple alternate ROM boot procedure of 100 different Samsung Android phones would not prove it. For that you can easily browse XDA forums' sections for Samsung devices, anyway."
If you are thinking a link from samsung.com will prove it - you are sadly mistaken.
One name of the Samsung Android phone from last 2 years, and my entire theory would be shattered to itty bitty pieces. But 100 links for simple alternate ROM boot procedure of 100 different Samsung Android phones would not prove it. For that you can easily browse XDA forums' sections for Samsung devices, anyway.
So I think lack of device name from you is more convincing as a "proof" of this negative. Plus the fact that you called an "average" Android device "locked", so burden of proof lies on your shoulders anyway, just because you said something.
But I got your style of posting - jump on a bandwagon and cry "bully!!!" when someone asks for any justification.
Thanks, that is hugely reassuring that it disturbs some employee(s) of Google. Hope you are listened to at the TGIF.
I do realize that it is less of an issue if it was a public post. I don't particularly share your enthusiasm to report victimless crimes. But I guess I don't have a leg to stand on, as lots of countries have severe laws against victimless crimes, including mine.
Ok, so you used a phone you don't remember the name of. How does that make an "average" Android phone locked?
If you cannot find the name of a "locked" Samsung Android phone in spite of me "insulting" you so much, and you reacting so much to it, that does more to "prove" the lack of a "locked" recent Samsung Android phone than any link I can possibly post. Let alone an "average" Android phone.
I already provided the information that is relevant - it involved Samsung, HTC and Sony. You would have remembered if you read it or understood.
You could have named the Samsung device if you had a point. But I guess you refrain from doing that because it was locked by the carrier so is completely irrelevant in a comparison with Jolla with is not a carrier (yet) but a manufacturer. Just like Samsung and HTC - which haven't released a bootloader locked phone for more than 2 years (possibly slightly less for HTC).
In that case, have you considered not making juvenile statements?
merely expressing an opinion based on the locked down Samsung and other phones I have seen
In that case, have you considered reading up on the meaning of "average"?
an opinion that fully locked down phones are likely to have less usable life than open ones
In that case, have you considered using English to express your opinion? It is helping no one if you use a language apparently similar to English but in which opinions about locked down phones are expressed by declaring "average" Android phones to be locked down Android phones.
It is positive that Samsung is apparently changing that policy.
Another interesting aspect of your language - present continuous tense being used for something that happened more than 2 years ago.
If the packages are just too old, why do they "quickly becomes[sic] unusaable [sic]" ? Do old packages undergo a transformation "quickly" without user intervention while "new" , "fresh" packages from e.g. Fedora, stay unchanged?
You said the "average" Android phone is not upgradable. "Quite a few not following it" is not enough for an "average" Android phone not being upgradable. When the big daddy of all Android phones, Samsung, is following the "trend", and nearly the next 2 (HTC and Sony) almost following it too.
I'd have no problem with that. I'd be inclined to suspect women...
2 sexes. 2 sets of professions, one each does not get enough representation from one of the sexes. In one case you demand a study before anyone "dismisses" it as an inclination mismatch. In the other case, YOU dismiss it as an inclination mismatch, without a study, of course. But, generously, you'd have "no problem" with studying about the unfair treatment received by other sex in the other set of professions too. Need I say more, or you understood your own double standards ?
For primary school I don't know. I had 2 male teachers K-6. They were both very good teachers.
You are an old man (so am I). Check out some recent statistics.
A good UI is not merely a synthesis of behaviors people have approved of --- good UI design is a cohesive whole, with good continuity, context, and consistency; it is more than the sum of its parts.
And Linux users worth their salt are used to replacing the parts they don't like. To create a "good UI for themselves" rather than the non-existent "good UI, period".
Some people actually need CentOS / Debian stable. But stupidly they choose Arch/Fedora/Debian testing/Mint Debian edition etc. Then they think it is the fault of "developers".
All those android phones that need to be cracked just to install some apps
I don't see too many of them. Samsung and HTC have vowed to keep the bootloaders open, since 2-3 years. They have been true to it. Sony have an application downloadable from their own website to open bootloaders of their phones, the application works for most of Sony phones (though not all).
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Void warranty - yes. For those who flash a custom ROM, it is typically trivial to flash back the original ROM, so it is possible to take most advantages of the warranty. But, of course, it is against the warranty contract.
Hack - depends on the definition of "hack". Samsung hasn't released a bootloader locked Android phone device in 2 years. HTC hasn't released such device in slightly less than 2 years. Sony has an application on their own website to open bootloaders for most of their Android phones.
Yes, you still have to do the fastboot, or adb, or some such method. It can be called "hacking". It is likely to take less than 20 minutes to do safely by even a slightly competent user even if inexperienced in this sense. But bootloader locked devices are not very common these days - because of these 3 companies which are dominant.
Wow! Such technology illiteracy and you are on Slashdot?
99% of electronic devices are hacked / rooted / jailbroken within a month of public release. Rest are typically not popular enough. There. End of your technological iliterate dream involving Google being the only technically capable entity in the Universe.
In the real world, where any other company than Google is free to create such glasses, their glasses are free from such restrictions. So will get more popular, just because of more convenience. Going with your philosophy, all restaurant owners need to inform all the manufacturers of such devices. All of them need to support the complicated override, contact owner etc.
Now the owner has no privacy from Google - if he wants reasonable privacy for his customers, he must provide his contact information, address etc. with Google. Nice "rent" for Google right there, just for creating such a device.
And the visible shutter can be replaced with dark glass except for a little hole with clear glass for the lens. And all light will be prevented from entering between "shutter" and rest of the device, leaving the clear glass portion visibly black to casual observers.
And how will you know when someone is spying and when someone is just using Google Glass for its AR features?
I do see that usage of Google glasses is a moral grey area, and society is trying to come to terms with it. But AR features? From my understanding of Google glass, at least some one is recording, and Google could even be saving the footage. It is at least analyzing the footage "to enhance your experience".
I don't understand how allowing Google to spy is morally better than spying oneself. I see these two as both morally better and worse than each other, in different ways.
If the camera is on, moral problem remains the same - whether for recording or AR.
"that". Means going through a thread. Much different from replying to your zero content rubbish. I already notice that his point is somewhat different from yours, need to read more of the thread context, though. You're too thick to get that, of course.
No, it confirms I don't jump into threads without going through them, and right now I don't have time for that. I also assert that which threads I jump into is none of your business. If you have an argument, make it, or STFU.
I can decide for myself which thread to jump into , thank you very much.
From your interpretation, which i don't trust much, he does appear to be a liar.
What do you expect my response to be? That when I am replying to you my stance would be different from that when you quote me elsewhere? I cannot comprehend the enormity of confusion of ideas that would lead you to such a question.
Uh? Are you playing "give question for this answer" game?
"One name of the Samsung Android phone from last 2 years, and my entire theory would be shattered to itty bitty pieces. But 100 links for simple alternate ROM boot procedure of 100 different Samsung Android phones would not prove it. For that you can easily browse XDA forums' sections for Samsung devices, anyway."
Google has any chance to only report the victimless part of the crime.
What link? For example?
If you are thinking a link from samsung.com will prove it - you are sadly mistaken.
One name of the Samsung Android phone from last 2 years, and my entire theory would be shattered to itty bitty pieces. But 100 links for simple alternate ROM boot procedure of 100 different Samsung Android phones would not prove it. For that you can easily browse XDA forums' sections for Samsung devices, anyway.
So I think lack of device name from you is more convincing as a "proof" of this negative. Plus the fact that you called an "average" Android device "locked", so burden of proof lies on your shoulders anyway, just because you said something.
But I got your style of posting - jump on a bandwagon and cry "bully!!!" when someone asks for any justification.
Thanks, that is hugely reassuring that it disturbs some employee(s) of Google. Hope you are listened to at the TGIF.
I do realize that it is less of an issue if it was a public post. I don't particularly share your enthusiasm to report victimless crimes. But I guess I don't have a leg to stand on, as lots of countries have severe laws against victimless crimes, including mine.
Ok, so you used a phone you don't remember the name of. How does that make an "average" Android phone locked?
If you cannot find the name of a "locked" Samsung Android phone in spite of me "insulting" you so much, and you reacting so much to it, that does more to "prove" the lack of a "locked" recent Samsung Android phone than any link I can possibly post. Let alone an "average" Android phone.
Ok, so my suspicions proved correct. You do not have a "locked" Samsung phone model to refer to.
I already provided the information that is relevant - it involved Samsung, HTC and Sony. You would have remembered if you read it or understood.
You could have named the Samsung device if you had a point. But I guess you refrain from doing that because it was locked by the carrier so is completely irrelevant in a comparison with Jolla with is not a carrier (yet) but a manufacturer. Just like Samsung and HTC - which haven't released a bootloader locked phone for more than 2 years (possibly slightly less for HTC).
I'm not looking for a juvenile argument
In that case, have you considered not making juvenile statements?
merely expressing an opinion based on the locked down Samsung and other phones I have seen
In that case, have you considered reading up on the meaning of "average"?
an opinion that fully locked down phones are likely to have less usable life than open ones
In that case, have you considered using English to express your opinion? It is helping no one if you use a language apparently similar to English but in which opinions about locked down phones are expressed by declaring "average" Android phones to be locked down Android phones.
It is positive that Samsung is apparently changing that policy.
Another interesting aspect of your language - present continuous tense being used for something that happened more than 2 years ago.
Exactly. So the "same thing" should keep working the same way for years and years, right? Why would they stop working "quickly" ?
Owing to this lack of updates, either they are "unusaable"[sic] from the very beginning, or they should remain "usaable" for years and years.
If the packages are just too old, why do they "quickly becomes[sic] unusaable [sic]" ? Do old packages undergo a transformation "quickly" without user intervention while "new" , "fresh" packages from e.g. Fedora, stay unchanged?
You said the "average" Android phone is not upgradable. "Quite a few not following it" is not enough for an "average" Android phone not being upgradable. When the big daddy of all Android phones, Samsung, is following the "trend", and nearly the next 2 (HTC and Sony) almost following it too.
I'd have no problem with that. I'd be inclined to suspect women ...
2 sexes. 2 sets of professions, one each does not get enough representation from one of the sexes. In one case you demand a study before anyone "dismisses" it as an inclination mismatch. In the other case, YOU dismiss it as an inclination mismatch, without a study, of course. But, generously, you'd have "no problem" with studying about the unfair treatment received by other sex in the other set of professions too. Need I say more, or you understood your own double standards ?
For primary school I don't know. I had 2 male teachers K-6. They were both very good teachers.
You are an old man (so am I). Check out some recent statistics.
You mean "fuck it, we are going with Playstation 5" ?
A good UI is not merely a synthesis of behaviors people have approved of --- good UI design is a cohesive whole, with good continuity, context, and consistency; it is more than the sum of its parts.
And Linux users worth their salt are used to replacing the parts they don't like. To create a "good UI for themselves" rather than the non-existent "good UI, period".
Gnome 3? Old hardware? Grub2? Systemd?
Some people actually need CentOS / Debian stable. But stupidly they choose Arch/Fedora/Debian testing/Mint Debian edition etc. Then they think it is the fault of "developers".
Learn to choose a distribution properly.
All those android phones that need to be cracked just to install some apps
I don't see too many of them. Samsung and HTC have vowed to keep the bootloaders open, since 2-3 years. They have been true to it. Sony have an application downloadable from their own website to open bootloaders of their phones, the application works for most of Sony phones (though not all).
Not at all, I'm all for studying WHY there are few girls in computing science
Great. I would be interested in knowing what are your feelings about studying WHY there so few men in nursing, and primary school teaching.