you have some good points.
We have a mostly SUSE shop. We have some windows boxes and some Redhat/CentOS, too.
When it comes to customer choice, it's almost always user preference over need. We steer them to SUSE if they don't have a preference as for us, it's more efficient to support SUSE considering scale.
All that being said, when we ordered my wife a laptop from Dell, "Vista Approved" it was worthless and unusable even for email & surfing. We tried her out on SUSE and Ubuntu, and many months later she is still running Ubuntu. So is a neighbors wife. I would never have thunk it! I installed it on a testbox at home, months ago, and it's the box I use the most now.
As for why use it in a datacenter environment? I can't give you a good logical reason - other than the best reason - because it would be fun to give a go for a non-critical project or two. We'll learn something from it, then when a customer comes along with pre-installed Ubuntu servers and they want to pay us to manage them... We get paid for our curiosity.
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The Most Fun Wins!
untrue. I find time for all of the above (except softball and golf). Kids transport well to festivals and other live music, they love to fish (I used to fly fish with my infant son on my back, he loved it! he now a teen so no more rides on my back), they love to camp, and I look forward to getting my kids into flying gliders, maybe a year down the line for my 2 oldest... but then again, maybe you were trolling or have convinced yourself that the only way to be a good parent is to be miserable (for your sake, I hope it was a troll)
it's pretty typical of the industry to feel this way. While it can be quite hard to do a major career shift and still make the big bucks, it's not so hard to find something to do in your off time that keeps you interested in life...
things I've seen techies do to put some life back in their life:
Go out, see some live music, hit some festivals
Join a softball team, play golf
fly fishing
learn to fly a plane
go camping
It's much easier to add fun things to your life with money than to dump your career for a 'fun' one with a big pay cut.
They're hosting them at their data center. so the size is completely irrelevant... seems like non news, as it doesn't seem to be "on sale" as the FA would suggest...
There are lots of great things we could do for humanity with your computer. Please send me your login credentials.
We'll be glad to let you know what great things we've done with your computer in a few weeks. I'll leave a note on your desktop.
what incentive will the government have to provide fibre to meet specific, competitive business needs?
Would tax payers be paying for expansion, maintenance and staff that would monitor and take care of these muni-lines?
Comcast, if it had a soul, would be hell-bound; and the only entity I can think of less qualified than they to own and manage network resources would be the gubmint.
Like the cell phone model only complicated such that many would be afraid to use the network?
But wait! the cell phone model seems to be moving towards a one-price, all-you-can-eat model, too... and they seem to be making money.
ISP service in the US is cheap. We could still have a higher rate for premium tier service and not cause people to consider *not* communicating or doing business, now.
The fibre is being paid for by those who will profit from its use. Why wouldn't an ISP go for market share by offering the bandwidth and services that attract more users? I guess that was Comcast's model pre-filtering... back to the old model, it seems.
Did you try flashing it back?!
Bricked is such an overly used term. people give up too easily!
Bricking should be followed up by some sort of qualifier, indicating the depths to which you've sunk to try to breath new life into the device.
PLEASE don't sell us short!
The preachers words will be quickly forgotten. These squabbles in the primary aren't that notable; and as soon as the Dems have a nominee the game changes completely.
Yahoo does an amazing job of filtering. Some of the real v-iagra type spam ends up the spam folder, much of it is missed... Yet they just DROP legitimate mail that they've decided is spam. Yahoo is now on a par with Hotmail for reliability. Why do our customers never have a problem with Gmail? For some reason it continues to work just fine. Maybe they can take some lessons from Yahoo and start filtering out the legit stuff, too....
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you have some good points. We have a mostly SUSE shop. We have some windows boxes and some Redhat/CentOS, too. When it comes to customer choice, it's almost always user preference over need. We steer them to SUSE if they don't have a preference as for us, it's more efficient to support SUSE considering scale. All that being said, when we ordered my wife a laptop from Dell, "Vista Approved" it was worthless and unusable even for email & surfing. We tried her out on SUSE and Ubuntu, and many months later she is still running Ubuntu. So is a neighbors wife. I would never have thunk it! I installed it on a testbox at home, months ago, and it's the box I use the most now. As for why use it in a datacenter environment? I can't give you a good logical reason - other than the best reason - because it would be fun to give a go for a non-critical project or two. We'll learn something from it, then when a customer comes along with pre-installed Ubuntu servers and they want to pay us to manage them... We get paid for our curiosity. -- The Most Fun Wins!
thanks for saving me some typing. Read the OP, a couple hundred responses, ctrl-F "support." yea, the obvious has been covered...
untrue. I find time for all of the above (except softball and golf). Kids transport well to festivals and other live music, they love to fish (I used to fly fish with my infant son on my back, he loved it! he now a teen so no more rides on my back), they love to camp, and I look forward to getting my kids into flying gliders, maybe a year down the line for my 2 oldest... but then again, maybe you were trolling or have convinced yourself that the only way to be a good parent is to be miserable (for your sake, I hope it was a troll)
it's pretty typical of the industry to feel this way. While it can be quite hard to do a major career shift and still make the big bucks, it's not so hard to find something to do in your off time that keeps you interested in life... things I've seen techies do to put some life back in their life: Go out, see some live music, hit some festivals Join a softball team, play golf fly fishing learn to fly a plane go camping It's much easier to add fun things to your life with money than to dump your career for a 'fun' one with a big pay cut.
such power is already in the hands of anyone with a clue - this is a tool for the clueless. It seems they invented it especially for cops.
hmmm, cheaper is relative. I don't see where I can order one very easily. Seems like we would almost need to 'apply' to order 1 (or 20)?
concerned about security? never use a public terminal.
it's called Windows Update... but I don't like the word "good."
There are lots of great things we could do for humanity with your computer. Please send me your login credentials. We'll be glad to let you know what great things we've done with your computer in a few weeks. I'll leave a note on your desktop.
what incentive will the government have to provide fibre to meet specific, competitive business needs? Would tax payers be paying for expansion, maintenance and staff that would monitor and take care of these muni-lines? Comcast, if it had a soul, would be hell-bound; and the only entity I can think of less qualified than they to own and manage network resources would be the gubmint.
Like the cell phone model only complicated such that many would be afraid to use the network? But wait! the cell phone model seems to be moving towards a one-price, all-you-can-eat model, too... and they seem to be making money. ISP service in the US is cheap. We could still have a higher rate for premium tier service and not cause people to consider *not* communicating or doing business, now. The fibre is being paid for by those who will profit from its use. Why wouldn't an ISP go for market share by offering the bandwidth and services that attract more users? I guess that was Comcast's model pre-filtering... back to the old model, it seems.
Did you try flashing it back?! Bricked is such an overly used term. people give up too easily! Bricking should be followed up by some sort of qualifier, indicating the depths to which you've sunk to try to breath new life into the device. PLEASE don't sell us short!
The preachers words will be quickly forgotten. These squabbles in the primary aren't that notable; and as soon as the Dems have a nominee the game changes completely.
Yahoo does an amazing job of filtering. Some of the real v-iagra type spam ends up the spam folder, much of it is missed... Yet they just DROP legitimate mail that they've decided is spam. Yahoo is now on a par with Hotmail for reliability. Why do our customers never have a problem with Gmail? For some reason it continues to work just fine. Maybe they can take some lessons from Yahoo and start filtering out the legit stuff, too....