Buyer was convinced the deal was legit. Even the Australian government was obviously convinced it was legit, as property ownership is registered by the government.
You as buyer go to a property agent and tell them "hey you have this flat for sale, I'm interested, I want to buy it". Then property agent will do the paperwork for you, ask a notary, whatever. You may not even meet the current owner in person for such a deal (well possible with investment properties). As long as this agent comes with the proper paperwork, the asking price is normal, etc, there is no reason for a buyer to doubt the legality of the deal.
Scammers had victim's e-mail address and the trust of agent that they were the person they pretended to be; it's easy enough to send an address/telephone change notice by e-mail that the agent then will consider the current valid details. And when called the scammer answers. Not likely agent will be able to recognise the voice being wrong, especially when the person answering the phone has the correct Australian accent.
Botnet creators sell to the highest bidders. They normally sell their services, but I bet if the price is right they will sell the master keys (passwords, update codes, whatever) too.
What is an enemy organisation or country stopping from trying to buy such keys? How about the US and China would manage to start a war (or slightly less unlikely China and Japan), then one of them would track down the creators of say Storm or Conficker or whatever is today's major botnet, and buy the master keys for maybe half a billion dollars. Then they have access to maybe millions of pre-compromised computers. With botnet software that can take all kinds of commands, including complete updates of itself - when you have those keys getting those computers to wipe themselves becomes trivial.
At this moment there may be no-one really interested in wiping computers; no-one wanting to put that much effort in it as it doesn't bring any advantage for the attacher.
But if you are in a state of war - this can really cripple your enemy. You don't need to kill their military computers, if you kill enough computers in general businesses the whole economy comes to a halt. Shipping companies can not plan their shipments. Supermarkets run out of stock because shipments stop coming in on time. People can't eat because there is no food for sale. Telemarketing companies lose their databases, and have no way to store info gained from their cold calls, and as a result have to stop this. Car manufactures can not produce or sell cars because they do not get the stocks (factory office down), and they can not book sales (dealers down), let alone get finished cars to the dealer (they can't access their order database, nor book trucks to get those cars out).
There are are currently no big wars going on - big as in big countries against each other. Not those guerrilla wars the US is trying to fight, guerrillas are typically not rich and don't care to take out the country, just to kick the enemy soldiers off their turf. This is over the heads of Al-Quaeda et. al., they don't have this kind of money (otherwise they would have done so already I'm sure). But in case of a more traditional war... I'm really wondering what this kind of botnets would be used for.
I wonder about this 10%-of-all-spam claim. I haven't seen this worm. I haven't seen any increase in spams that I receive over the last few days.
And I should have seen a serious increase as this worm spreads through Outlook, using proper smtp servers, which will pass through my greylisting (>90% of spam is stopped that way already). And as I'm doing business with dozens of companies all over the world, and possibly hundreds have my e-mail address in some address book or so, it's surprising to simply not receive it.
Just looking through my spam folder again and no surprises there... about half Nigerian scams and related, about half other stuff.
Thank you for trying to work with me here. Indeed, I have done many of the things you propose:
``You could just buy/rent a small apartment on the private market I'm sure. I don't know about countries that forbid someone moving in a small home just because he has too high an income, unless you try to apply for public/subsidised housing of course. Which someone with an above average income (as you imply to have) shouldn't qualify for in the first place.''
That's the issue here. Housing is scored based on things like size and available facilities.
A look at your resume made me understand this problem. I'm Dutch too (not living in NL anymore though). Yes it's a problem, public housing is so successful it basically has killed off the low-end private housing. At least for rent.
Oil consumption has been rising all the time, no matter what happened to the oil price. In other words oil is cheap enough not to care about price.
Gasoline for cars is the same. Prices may have doubled over the last decade, however I have yet to hear from anyone who is driving less because of high fuel costs. Other than maybe looking for a more fuel efficient car when buying a new one, they don't care, and fuel is obviously cheap enough to not care much about it. Even though the cost is up a lot. Or has fuel demand really gone down over the last decade? The only information I could find about this indicates the opposite.
We have that every day just past noon. And yes it's a problem, especially in summer time. Peak peak solar should be late June but the worst peak peak is usually more like early August. Too darn hot to go out for lunch!
The thing is, oil is not expensive, it's really cheap. One could even argue it's too cheap.
Gasoline the same, it's cheap, still is.
Everybody is complaining it's expensive, but how many people do you know that think twice before hopping in their car? There are a few (more and more) that look at fuel efficiency when buying a car, but when driving it they will not consider alternatives because the gasoline is so expensive. If they go for alternative transport then there are other reasons.
The oil price over the 1990s hovered around the US$20 per barrel. Currently just under US$80 per barrel, down from nearly double that at it's 2007/2008 peak.
Yet the world oil consumption continues to rise steadily. Since the 1940s it's a virtually straight line up looking at the charges. In the 60s it went faster, corrected by the oil crisis in the 70s which actually caused consumption to fall - yet today's prices do not seem to have any effect on consumption. Hence even at $80/bbl oil is so cheap that it doesn't matter really. Yes airliners charge fuel surcharges on passengers and freight, so do shipping liners (bunker surcharge on container shipments). It is all so little that people that want to fly, fly. People that want to ship, ship. It's not stopping anyone, because it's still cheap.
Oil will have to go to >$200 a barrel, and gasoline probably has to at least double probably quadruple in price before people really start looking at alternatives. That's how cheap oil really is these days. That's what it really takes to slow down the oil consumption.
Future wars about oil are also likely to be not as much about securing supply, as about the huge value that oil reserves represent. The higher the price, the higher the value, while the cost of getting it out of the ground is not going to rise as much.
I understand what you say but really you can do something about it.
You obviously have a reasonably high income; there can not be a reason why you can not move to a smaller apartment (in general smaller = cheaper so that makes paying off your debts also easier). You could just buy/rent a small apartment on the private market I'm sure. I don't know about countries that forbid someone moving in a small home just because he has too high an income, unless you try to apply for public/subsidised housing of course. Which someone with an above average income (as you imply to have) shouldn't qualify for in the first place.
Your car well I don't know what car you have but hybrids tend to be pretty fuel efficient. Or get a small car. Well Japanese cars in general, European cars a good second. Let's forget about American cars in that respect.
Getting your job within cycling range will be harder - that would usually mean getting the job first and then finding a home nearby). If as you mention you have to go all over the place then getting a fuel efficient car is the second best thing to do.
Of course, I know data is the most important, that's what computers are meant to handle. Second most important is a computer that works reliably. And that's why I backup/home. And large parts of/var (where a.o. the imap base lives, together with lots of other important data) and/etc. Also for availability/var and/home are on a raid1, that saved me once already when one of those disks died.
Well as long as you are not using Adobe reader you're quite safe.
And pdf suddenly becomes an enjoyable format. Often relatively small file size, good readability, guaranteed layout, quick launch of the reader... I still don't know why/. always puts "pdf warning" at links to pdf files.
It has been a long time that I had to enter my root password in the gui for some software, and that was only for installation. And as such when expected.
Windows I haven't used for more than a decade, but it seems that many many programs routinely ask for privilege escalation. Often unexpected. And users do not even have to enter a password, they just have to click . Have them enter their password all the time and they would at least get more annoyed, and that may also cause software to be fixed.
Software that a user downloads in Linux can be run by that user, sure. It can do lots of bad things that way, sure. However what it can not do is install and hide itself into some system directory, making detection and cleaning an infection much easier on Linux.
And that is not even looking at the many many security bugs that are still present in Windows.
A big difference of course remains that Unixes have been set up from the ground up to be networked and have various users with various permissions. Windows has got this patched on later, having to deal with a huge legacy of all kinds of apps that didn't expect these restrictions. It's not just because that many people here on Slashdot would suggest MS to throw out what they have and start from scratch, just like Apple did. OS-9 had become a mess. Insecure, buggy, unstable, unmaintainable. So they started anew, and very successful.
In the meantime those subsidies are killing off small farmers in other parts of the world... and this, contradictory as it sounds, is part of the world's hunger problems. There is enough food in the world, just many people can not afford it. It is the main cause of hunger.
Not just in the US. In Europe the same. Netherlands is growing a lot of corn that is then shredded (stems and all, just not the roots) and used as animal fodder. Many cattle will still graze in summer time, in winter they get this corn. Harvesting grass in summer is also still done though. Other countries are growing beets to feed to their animals in winter, or even all year long, as it has better overall meat production than to pasture the cattle in summer.
Still red meat is generally recommended as relatively healthy.
It is interesting though how US made beef (even Brazilian beef) is available big time in the supermarkets in Hong Kong. And at prices competitive to mainland raised meat. Japanese beef though is definitely more expensive, and sold primarily for it's (perceived?) high quality.
Oh and assuming you are an American tax payer, I should also thank you for paying for a lot of my fruit. US grown oranges are sold in Hong Kong at the same price as mainland grown oranges (from maybe 200-300 km away from here - less transport, less labour cost, etc). US grown grapes are sold here at prices of about USD 1.50/lb - sometimes less than USD 1/lb. Imported all the way from the US. No mainland grown grapes available at all. They probably can not compete with the cheap produce dumped on the market by US exporters.
Economically it is impossible for US produce to compete price wise with mainland produce. Just impossible. Long transport lines, high labour and other cost in the US, etc. While the mainland has low wages, produce comes from just across the border transported by low payed drivers. US cotton is even driving Chinese farmers out of business because mainland manufacturers can buy US grown cotton cheaper than what's grown in their own back yard.
But anyway thanks to you American tax payers I can enjoy good quality, reasonably safe and cheap food on my table in Hong Kong. It's a wonderful world.
TiO2 is a common pigment, I know it for dying plastic resin mainly. It's very cheap, common, very white, and UV resistant. The ideal pigment. So tfs must be wrong in this aspect indeed.
Until the parents come asking "why charging $8 for a school lunch? That much!" (I am just back having lunch, cost me less than half that including drink).
And with processed I mean that certain components of the food (typical sugars and oils/fats) have been concentrated, while other components have been discarded (typically fibre). This includes sweets, frizzy drinks, and the like.
My four-year-old is allowed to eat as much as he wants of most unprocessed foods, such as bread, rice, vegetables, fruits. And he eats a lot, almost as much as I do, and I'm a pretty big guy. Meat is limited - it's unprocessed but not good to eat in large quantity. Processed foods, including sweets, are restricted, we give him very little of those.
I basically agree with that statement. Schools should at least provide healthy choices; it's not that hard.
What scared me more is that there is apparently a law telling what a child is allowed to eat:
"We’re making sure that as they’re leaving the lunch line that the menu items they’ve selected match up with state law, so they’re selecting a meal that has all the basic [components] of good nutrition", said school district spokesman Jarrett Peterson. “We’re not tracking what each individual child eats.”
The second part of the statement is quite unbelievable: how about billing? If they do not keep records of what exactly they have sold to a particular individual, how are they going to bill at the end of the month?
Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about it. The first hit I got on Google also said it's a "little known feature" of the Cyrus IMAPD.
Do you also happen to know how I can have Evolution use IMAP search? Or is that done automatically? Their IMAP implementation remains wacky after all...
Your point 3) is very true, but so is a point made in the summary: "most hard problems are already solved for you. You just need to know where to look." This knowing where to look part is hard in itself.
For me it boils down to searching for some existing library whenever I realise that I need a complex function to do something, that sounds reasonably generic at the same time. E.g. image resizing. Sorting stuff. Building up and sending out an e-mail from software. Logging to syslog or your own log file. Python has a lot of that built in, and well documented, but lots of stuff is harder to find, such as creating a.pdf file as output.
I'm happy knowing my way around Python, and doing OO programming to boot. I don't know C or any of it's relatives, wouldn't know about memory management, and honestly couldn't care less.
Now when I would start making a career out of programming large projects where performance is of utmost importance... or seriously programming embedded devices... then I may start to follow your approach. As I do agree that a compiled language like C is the way to go for those situations.
Or you are mixing your indentation - spaces and tabs (try not to do that OK? ).
That hurt me once badly when programming in Python. Using tabs for the indentation, then for some reason one time I was using an editor that silently replaced those tabs with spaces (four spaces for a tab - which was also my default setting before so it looks the same), later back to my normal editor and when running it I suddenly got all kinds of indentation errors! Took me a bit of headscratching before I realised what was going on. Ouch.
Still occasionally running into this, especially when using bits of other people's code, but at least now I know what to look out for.
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So again pirated content wins on general experience. I bet you can download all those movies in HD, and they will likely play just fine.
While your paid for BD fails.
It is really as if those content producers go out of their way to drive their customers to the torrent sites.
Buyer was convinced the deal was legit. Even the Australian government was obviously convinced it was legit, as property ownership is registered by the government.
You as buyer go to a property agent and tell them "hey you have this flat for sale, I'm interested, I want to buy it". Then property agent will do the paperwork for you, ask a notary, whatever. You may not even meet the current owner in person for such a deal (well possible with investment properties). As long as this agent comes with the proper paperwork, the asking price is normal, etc, there is no reason for a buyer to doubt the legality of the deal.
Scammers had victim's e-mail address and the trust of agent that they were the person they pretended to be; it's easy enough to send an address/telephone change notice by e-mail that the agent then will consider the current valid details. And when called the scammer answers. Not likely agent will be able to recognise the voice being wrong, especially when the person answering the phone has the correct Australian accent.
Botnet creators sell to the highest bidders. They normally sell their services, but I bet if the price is right they will sell the master keys (passwords, update codes, whatever) too.
What is an enemy organisation or country stopping from trying to buy such keys? How about the US and China would manage to start a war (or slightly less unlikely China and Japan), then one of them would track down the creators of say Storm or Conficker or whatever is today's major botnet, and buy the master keys for maybe half a billion dollars. Then they have access to maybe millions of pre-compromised computers. With botnet software that can take all kinds of commands, including complete updates of itself - when you have those keys getting those computers to wipe themselves becomes trivial.
At this moment there may be no-one really interested in wiping computers; no-one wanting to put that much effort in it as it doesn't bring any advantage for the attacher.
But if you are in a state of war - this can really cripple your enemy. You don't need to kill their military computers, if you kill enough computers in general businesses the whole economy comes to a halt. Shipping companies can not plan their shipments. Supermarkets run out of stock because shipments stop coming in on time. People can't eat because there is no food for sale. Telemarketing companies lose their databases, and have no way to store info gained from their cold calls, and as a result have to stop this. Car manufactures can not produce or sell cars because they do not get the stocks (factory office down), and they can not book sales (dealers down), let alone get finished cars to the dealer (they can't access their order database, nor book trucks to get those cars out).
There are are currently no big wars going on - big as in big countries against each other. Not those guerrilla wars the US is trying to fight, guerrillas are typically not rich and don't care to take out the country, just to kick the enemy soldiers off their turf. This is over the heads of Al-Quaeda et. al., they don't have this kind of money (otherwise they would have done so already I'm sure). But in case of a more traditional war... I'm really wondering what this kind of botnets would be used for.
I wonder about this 10%-of-all-spam claim. I haven't seen this worm. I haven't seen any increase in spams that I receive over the last few days.
And I should have seen a serious increase as this worm spreads through Outlook, using proper smtp servers, which will pass through my greylisting (>90% of spam is stopped that way already). And as I'm doing business with dozens of companies all over the world, and possibly hundreds have my e-mail address in some address book or so, it's surprising to simply not receive it.
Just looking through my spam folder again and no surprises there... about half Nigerian scams and related, about half other stuff.
Thank you for trying to work with me here. Indeed, I have done many of the things you propose:
``You could just buy/rent a small apartment on the private market I'm sure. I don't know about countries that forbid someone moving in a small home just because he has too high an income, unless you try to apply for public/subsidised housing of course. Which someone with an above average income (as you imply to have) shouldn't qualify for in the first place.''
That's the issue here. Housing is scored based on things like size and available facilities.
A look at your resume made me understand this problem. I'm Dutch too (not living in NL anymore though). Yes it's a problem, public housing is so successful it basically has killed off the low-end private housing. At least for rent.
Oil consumption has been rising all the time, no matter what happened to the oil price. In other words oil is cheap enough not to care about price.
Gasoline for cars is the same. Prices may have doubled over the last decade, however I have yet to hear from anyone who is driving less because of high fuel costs. Other than maybe looking for a more fuel efficient car when buying a new one, they don't care, and fuel is obviously cheap enough to not care much about it. Even though the cost is up a lot. Or has fuel demand really gone down over the last decade? The only information I could find about this indicates the opposite.
We have that every day just past noon. And yes it's a problem, especially in summer time. Peak peak solar should be late June but the worst peak peak is usually more like early August. Too darn hot to go out for lunch!
The thing is, oil is not expensive, it's really cheap. One could even argue it's too cheap.
Gasoline the same, it's cheap, still is.
Everybody is complaining it's expensive, but how many people do you know that think twice before hopping in their car? There are a few (more and more) that look at fuel efficiency when buying a car, but when driving it they will not consider alternatives because the gasoline is so expensive. If they go for alternative transport then there are other reasons.
The oil price over the 1990s hovered around the US$20 per barrel. Currently just under US$80 per barrel, down from nearly double that at it's 2007/2008 peak.
Yet the world oil consumption continues to rise steadily. Since the 1940s it's a virtually straight line up looking at the charges. In the 60s it went faster, corrected by the oil crisis in the 70s which actually caused consumption to fall - yet today's prices do not seem to have any effect on consumption. Hence even at $80/bbl oil is so cheap that it doesn't matter really. Yes airliners charge fuel surcharges on passengers and freight, so do shipping liners (bunker surcharge on container shipments). It is all so little that people that want to fly, fly. People that want to ship, ship. It's not stopping anyone, because it's still cheap.
Oil will have to go to >$200 a barrel, and gasoline probably has to at least double probably quadruple in price before people really start looking at alternatives. That's how cheap oil really is these days. That's what it really takes to slow down the oil consumption.
Future wars about oil are also likely to be not as much about securing supply, as about the huge value that oil reserves represent. The higher the price, the higher the value, while the cost of getting it out of the ground is not going to rise as much.
I understand what you say but really you can do something about it.
You obviously have a reasonably high income; there can not be a reason why you can not move to a smaller apartment (in general smaller = cheaper so that makes paying off your debts also easier). You could just buy/rent a small apartment on the private market I'm sure. I don't know about countries that forbid someone moving in a small home just because he has too high an income, unless you try to apply for public/subsidised housing of course. Which someone with an above average income (as you imply to have) shouldn't qualify for in the first place.
Your car well I don't know what car you have but hybrids tend to be pretty fuel efficient. Or get a small car. Well Japanese cars in general, European cars a good second. Let's forget about American cars in that respect.
Getting your job within cycling range will be harder - that would usually mean getting the job first and then finding a home nearby). If as you mention you have to go all over the place then getting a fuel efficient car is the second best thing to do.
Of course, I know data is the most important, that's what computers are meant to handle. Second most important is a computer that works reliably. And that's why I backup /home. And large parts of /var (where a.o. the imap base lives, together with lots of other important data) and /etc. Also for availability /var and /home are on a raid1, that saved me once already when one of those disks died.
Well as long as you are not using Adobe reader you're quite safe.
And pdf suddenly becomes an enjoyable format. Often relatively small file size, good readability, guaranteed layout, quick launch of the reader... I still don't know why /. always puts "pdf warning" at links to pdf files.
It has been a long time that I had to enter my root password in the gui for some software, and that was only for installation. And as such when expected.
Windows I haven't used for more than a decade, but it seems that many many programs routinely ask for privilege escalation. Often unexpected. And users do not even have to enter a password, they just have to click . Have them enter their password all the time and they would at least get more annoyed, and that may also cause software to be fixed.
Software that a user downloads in Linux can be run by that user, sure. It can do lots of bad things that way, sure. However what it can not do is install and hide itself into some system directory, making detection and cleaning an infection much easier on Linux.
And that is not even looking at the many many security bugs that are still present in Windows.
A big difference of course remains that Unixes have been set up from the ground up to be networked and have various users with various permissions. Windows has got this patched on later, having to deal with a huge legacy of all kinds of apps that didn't expect these restrictions. It's not just because that many people here on Slashdot would suggest MS to throw out what they have and start from scratch, just like Apple did. OS-9 had become a mess. Insecure, buggy, unstable, unmaintainable. So they started anew, and very successful.
In the meantime those subsidies are killing off small farmers in other parts of the world... and this, contradictory as it sounds, is part of the world's hunger problems. There is enough food in the world, just many people can not afford it. It is the main cause of hunger.
Not just in the US. In Europe the same. Netherlands is growing a lot of corn that is then shredded (stems and all, just not the roots) and used as animal fodder. Many cattle will still graze in summer time, in winter they get this corn. Harvesting grass in summer is also still done though. Other countries are growing beets to feed to their animals in winter, or even all year long, as it has better overall meat production than to pasture the cattle in summer.
Still red meat is generally recommended as relatively healthy.
It is interesting though how US made beef (even Brazilian beef) is available big time in the supermarkets in Hong Kong. And at prices competitive to mainland raised meat. Japanese beef though is definitely more expensive, and sold primarily for it's (perceived?) high quality.
Oh and assuming you are an American tax payer, I should also thank you for paying for a lot of my fruit. US grown oranges are sold in Hong Kong at the same price as mainland grown oranges (from maybe 200-300 km away from here - less transport, less labour cost, etc). US grown grapes are sold here at prices of about USD 1.50/lb - sometimes less than USD 1/lb. Imported all the way from the US. No mainland grown grapes available at all. They probably can not compete with the cheap produce dumped on the market by US exporters.
Economically it is impossible for US produce to compete price wise with mainland produce. Just impossible. Long transport lines, high labour and other cost in the US, etc. While the mainland has low wages, produce comes from just across the border transported by low payed drivers. US cotton is even driving Chinese farmers out of business because mainland manufacturers can buy US grown cotton cheaper than what's grown in their own back yard.
But anyway thanks to you American tax payers I can enjoy good quality, reasonably safe and cheap food on my table in Hong Kong. It's a wonderful world.
TiO2 is a common pigment, I know it for dying plastic resin mainly. It's very cheap, common, very white, and UV resistant. The ideal pigment. So tfs must be wrong in this aspect indeed.
Until the parents come asking "why charging $8 for a school lunch? That much!" (I am just back having lunch, cost me less than half that including drink).
I think you can simplify that:
Natural, non-processed foods are healthy.
Processed foods are unhealthy.
And with processed I mean that certain components of the food (typical sugars and oils/fats) have been concentrated, while other components have been discarded (typically fibre). This includes sweets, frizzy drinks, and the like.
My four-year-old is allowed to eat as much as he wants of most unprocessed foods, such as bread, rice, vegetables, fruits. And he eats a lot, almost as much as I do, and I'm a pretty big guy. Meat is limited - it's unprocessed but not good to eat in large quantity. Processed foods, including sweets, are restricted, we give him very little of those.
I basically agree with that statement. Schools should at least provide healthy choices; it's not that hard.
What scared me more is that there is apparently a law telling what a child is allowed to eat:
"We’re making sure that as they’re leaving the lunch line that the menu items they’ve selected match up with state law, so they’re selecting a meal that has all the basic [components] of good nutrition", said school district spokesman Jarrett Peterson. “We’re not tracking what each individual child eats.”
The second part of the statement is quite unbelievable: how about billing? If they do not keep records of what exactly they have sold to a particular individual, how are they going to bill at the end of the month?
Ftfa: the number will pull up the child's photo so the cashier can verify the identity.
That little check is in place at least.
That said children can go and purchase meals for each other. But it's pretty hard to purchase meals on someone else's account.
Maybe they should just stop doing that. The rigorous editing I mean. Then the articles may become a bit more current.
Thanks for the tip. I didn't know about it. The first hit I got on Google also said it's a "little known feature" of the Cyrus IMAPD.
Do you also happen to know how I can have Evolution use IMAP search? Or is that done automatically? Their IMAP implementation remains wacky after all...
Your point 3) is very true, but so is a point made in the summary: "most hard problems are already solved for you. You just need to know where to look." This knowing where to look part is hard in itself.
For me it boils down to searching for some existing library whenever I realise that I need a complex function to do something, that sounds reasonably generic at the same time. E.g. image resizing. Sorting stuff. Building up and sending out an e-mail from software. Logging to syslog or your own log file. Python has a lot of that built in, and well documented, but lots of stuff is harder to find, such as creating a .pdf file as output.
I'm happy knowing my way around Python, and doing OO programming to boot. I don't know C or any of it's relatives, wouldn't know about memory management, and honestly couldn't care less.
Now when I would start making a career out of programming large projects where performance is of utmost importance... or seriously programming embedded devices... then I may start to follow your approach. As I do agree that a compiled language like C is the way to go for those situations.
Or you are mixing your indentation - spaces and tabs (try not to do that OK? ).
That hurt me once badly when programming in Python. Using tabs for the indentation, then for some reason one time I was using an editor that silently replaced those tabs with spaces (four spaces for a tab - which was also my default setting before so it looks the same), later back to my normal editor and when running it I suddenly got all kinds of indentation errors! Took me a bit of headscratching before I realised what was going on. Ouch.
Still occasionally running into this, especially when using bits of other people's code, but at least now I know what to look out for.