I've always figured that we will find something so absurdly different from our own carbon based forms of life that we won't believe it at first. We may not even be able to communicate with them in any reasonable sense, given that they will obviously have massively different semantical structures. We will probably have a problem with figuring out what is the actual intellegent life form on whatever planet the signal comes from. Who's to say we won't make contact with an electro-magnetic based lifeform, or a lifeform that experiences time so slowly that we can never really get the communication right. There's so many possibilities that I think the good/bad dichotomy is just an imposition of human thought patterns on parts of reality of which we have absolutely no conception of.
only because you're thinking logically and I'm working from experience. Where does the beutiful girl that you fall in love with always come from? where you least expect it. How about that dream job? Ditto. And really I'm only being half facecious.
This is, IMHO, the only way we could communicate with other civilizations. I was thinking originally that we'd have to figure a way to modify the oput of a star, but this if far easier.
Some sort of security I'd assume? Not that I know they have security mind you. I just guess that would be what would stop someone. That or the whole ethics thing. But come on, ethics are so 20th century.
On topic! god forbid! You only have one funny/witty/ironic reference/joke in your post.
But really. I haven't done a ton of research on this topic but it seems that we could get some pretty "interesting" signals from odd interference patterns or other natural patterns. The real question, and the one i've never heard anything about, is what we should do if we find an actual signal. It seems to me that people in general, and politicians more specifically, will freak out immediately. Should we discus this now?
It was probably hardware failure, I say that because the statement I got at the time said the correct amount. Still, I don't think that makes me trust diebold any more. Regardless if it was their ATM.
Don't tell anyone we have endemic corruption in the US political system! They might start gettting ideas and, gasp, start voting for other parties, or worse, get off their ass and really try to make some changes.
Shit, I'm an Anarchist, I'm for world revolution and all that, but at this point I'd be pretty fucking content with a government that doesn't put its citizens in what amount to concentration camps for smoking a fucking doobie. I mean come on!
What I really don't get is why so much of the right wing supports all the roll backs in civil liberties. Do you remember the clinton years? Ruby Ridge and other incidents should worry the hell out of you because there will be another Democratic Administration sometime, even if it isn't '04.
i regret that i have but one mind to loose for my ART. I feel it now begin to absorb me, to become me. this expansion of ego does not scare me. NO, in fact it drives me HARDER. in the beginning was THE LIE, and the lie shall set us loose. it shall free us from reality and BANALITY and the mundane, drudgingly pathetic thing we call BEAUTY. irony and the birth of the age of the ABSURD will release us, free us, tie us in the knots of FUN, childishness, and novel, retarded happiness. like monkeys at the zoo we will throw our now useless FECES at our captors. we will humiliate and denigrate those who force feed us FALSE CULTURE in the guise of all-knowing intelectuals, artists, ROCKSTARS, and movie moguls. submodern psuedo-intellectual artistic subvertion will rule the new collective unconsious. only things that NO ONE considers art, most of all the artist, will be art. logic and reason will be decimated by the hordes of astrologists, phrenologists, palmists, SEERS, mystics, yogis, cartoonists, comedians, demagogues and charlatans. symbols will ascend to metaphores and similies will descend to INANITIES.
BLAH BLAH BLAH will be our war cry, LA LA LA our funeral song.
Interesting side note: The end of the Mayan Grand Cycle is suppose to coincide with the transit of venus. The mayans, and some other mesoamerican peoples, believed that venus was quetzacoatl and his transit of the sun would bring an end to the cycle. So the real question is whether or not we'll make it to December and, more importantly, whether we'll get to see the transit before everything goes.
I don't have a utopian dream, I see anarchism as a better method to run the world, but it sure as hell won't be perfect. That aside, smashing windows of corporate chain stores is a far cry from burning down houses, something no anarchist with half a brain would do. As for the swiss anarchists, have you ever seen any of the protest footage from switzerland? They're far more militant than anything you could imagine in the US, they get the job of window smashing done right. And a lot of anarchists are Wiccans. Check out Starhawk, and anarchist witch, she has lots of great writing on anarchism and wicca.
As an anarchist I must disagree. It might be nice to distance yourself from the 'window smashers' for debate reasons, but they are, historically speaking, a major influence on anarchism. Stemming from the Russian Nihilists, 'I will destroy that which seeks to destroy me.', they make a direct assault on the hegemony of capitalism. Much more effective in many ways than sitting on the internet and espousing anarchist theories. Not that that isn't effective in different ways, mind you.
Anarchism is linked to violence because those whom we oppose are violent. And it must be said that smashing windows is a bit low on the scale of violence in the world today.
Technically it would be the emperor. and what a good example of art, literature to be exact, that is both political and still pointed in our time. For more on this see Dante's Inferno.
the key word in there is 'or'. it needs to be either "intentionally and without authorization" OR "with intent to injure or defraud alters any computer... "
so it would fall under the statute; however these CDs are not being sold in Minnesota so the point is moot.
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I think this just proves the hypothesis that Bad News(ie you were wrong) is the only thing that travels faster than the speed of light.
I've always figured that we will find something so absurdly different from our own carbon based forms of life that we won't believe it at first. We may not even be able to communicate with them in any reasonable sense, given that they will obviously have massively different semantical structures. We will probably have a problem with figuring out what is the actual intellegent life form on whatever planet the signal comes from. Who's to say we won't make contact with an electro-magnetic based lifeform, or a lifeform that experiences time so slowly that we can never really get the communication right. There's so many possibilities that I think the good/bad dichotomy is just an imposition of human thought patterns on parts of reality of which we have absolutely no conception of.
Godwin's Interstellar Law.
substitute Vogons for Hitler.
only because you're thinking logically and I'm working from experience. Where does the beutiful girl that you fall in love with always come from? where you least expect it. How about that dream job? Ditto. And really I'm only being half facecious.
This is, IMHO, the only way we could communicate with other civilizations. I was thinking originally that we'd have to figure a way to modify the oput of a star, but this if far easier.
Damn you engineers.
Places that we would least expect to hold life perhaps. Because we're probably wrong.
Some sort of security I'd assume? Not that I know they have security mind you. I just guess that would be what would stop someone. That or the whole ethics thing. But come on, ethics are so 20th century.
On topic! god forbid! You only have one funny/witty/ironic reference/joke in your post.
But really. I haven't done a ton of research on this topic but it seems that we could get some pretty "interesting" signals from odd interference patterns or other natural patterns. The real question, and the one i've never heard anything about, is what we should do if we find an actual signal. It seems to me that people in general, and politicians more specifically, will freak out immediately. Should we discus this now?
Kind of a Clinton/Gore dichotomy?
hmmm...
or even Bush/Cheney.
Methinks I found a pattern of my own.
It was probably hardware failure, I say that because the statement I got at the time said the correct amount. Still, I don't think that makes me trust diebold any more. Regardless if it was their ATM.
I've had an ATM count wrong. Unfortunately not in my favor either. It waasn't much, but that isn't the point.
Don't tell anyone we have endemic corruption in the US political system! They might start gettting ideas and, gasp, start voting for other parties, or worse, get off their ass and really try to make some changes.
Shit, I'm an Anarchist, I'm for world revolution and all that, but at this point I'd be pretty fucking content with a government that doesn't put its citizens in what amount to concentration camps for smoking a fucking doobie. I mean come on!
What I really don't get is why so much of the right wing supports all the roll backs in civil liberties. Do you remember the clinton years? Ruby Ridge and other incidents should worry the hell out of you because there will be another Democratic Administration sometime, even if it isn't '04.
i regret that i have but one mind to loose for my ART. I feel it now begin to absorb me, to become me. this expansion of ego does not scare me. NO, in fact it drives me HARDER. in the beginning was THE LIE, and the lie shall set us loose. it shall free us from reality and BANALITY and the mundane, drudgingly pathetic thing we call BEAUTY. irony and the birth of the age of the ABSURD will release us, free us, tie us in the knots of FUN, childishness, and novel, retarded happiness. like monkeys at the zoo we will throw our now useless FECES at our captors. we will humiliate and denigrate those who force feed us FALSE CULTURE in the guise of all-knowing intelectuals, artists, ROCKSTARS, and movie moguls. submodern psuedo-intellectual artistic subvertion will rule the new collective unconsious. only things that NO ONE considers art, most of all the artist, will be art. logic and reason will be decimated by the hordes of astrologists, phrenologists, palmists, SEERS, mystics, yogis, cartoonists, comedians, demagogues and charlatans. symbols will ascend to metaphores and similies will descend to INANITIES.
BLAH BLAH BLAH will be our war cry, LA LA LA our funeral song.
RETARDED MONKEY MOTHER FUCKERS UNITE
you havenothing to loose but your mind
BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So when can I get the full eye mirrored contacts?
Interesting side note: The end of the Mayan Grand Cycle is suppose to coincide with the transit of venus. The mayans, and some other mesoamerican peoples, believed that venus was quetzacoatl and his transit of the sun would bring an end to the cycle. So the real question is whether or not we'll make it to December and, more importantly, whether we'll get to see the transit before everything goes.
I don't have a utopian dream, I see anarchism as a better method to run the world, but it sure as hell won't be perfect. That aside, smashing windows of corporate chain stores is a far cry from burning down houses, something no anarchist with half a brain would do. As for the swiss anarchists, have you ever seen any of the protest footage from switzerland? They're far more militant than anything you could imagine in the US, they get the job of window smashing done right. And a lot of anarchists are Wiccans. Check out Starhawk, and anarchist witch, she has lots of great writing on anarchism and wicca.
Have you ever read anything about anarchism?
So Bill Gates contributes more than the guy who fixes your toilet?
hmmm. interesting.
And you psuedo-political philosophers continue to not know what anarchism really is.
As an anarchist I must disagree. It might be nice to distance yourself from the 'window smashers' for debate reasons, but they are, historically speaking, a major influence on anarchism. Stemming from the Russian Nihilists, 'I will destroy that which seeks to destroy me.', they make a direct assault on the hegemony of capitalism. Much more effective in many ways than sitting on the internet and espousing anarchist theories. Not that that isn't effective in different ways, mind you.
Anarchism is linked to violence because those whom we oppose are violent. And it must be said that smashing windows is a bit low on the scale of violence in the world today.
Reminds me of a good line, I think it was Orwell who said it.
"All art is propaganda but not all propaganda is art."
And whaats wrong with "bad films". did you actually read anything from the book of the subgenius or are you just another bobbie
"The king has no clothes."
Technically it would be the emperor. and what a good example of art, literature to be exact, that is both political and still pointed in our time. For more on this see Dante's Inferno.
nice troll too.
the key word in there is 'or'. it needs to be either "intentionally and without authorization" OR "with intent to injure or defraud alters any computer...
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so it would fall under the statute; however these CDs are not being sold in Minnesota so the point is moot.
if only it were.
In space, no one can hear you fart alot.
at least this post won't get modded flamebait.