I'll bite, the Big Bang I'm 70% sure of, God's role in it I'm realisticaly only 95% sure of.
But the question of "Why is there life?" is strange and I was dissapointed when I read the article and it wasn't until the very end that I read he wasn't even trying to answer that question. So why was the article titled that?
I don't know, but I've been having fun pondering on artificial, external and internal authority. What authorizes information? In this case science (if you are one of those that call cosmology science) looked like it was going to authorize an answer on one of the most ponderous questions out there. Did it? No. Did it explain the question he wanted to ask? Yeah. But through statistics, which I consider a pseudo proof so I'd rather not count it.
What couldn't be explained away is "Well there were a huge number of possibilities so it was bound to happen. Why not now?" It certainly is as believable as imagioning a higher power created things to people who lived in such an unenlightened state as before Darwin showed us the way. It is an artificial authorization and the great scientific cheap shot of the 20th century (maybe even 21st). Its the new cureall explainer of all that can't be explained. Join the party.
Moses never entered (then Caanan). Joshua led the invasion (2000bc?). That was well before the Maccabees returned to now Israel after the Babylonian captivity (6?0bc).
Try again. Surely someone as well versed as you would know.
Name a time that Jews didn't inhabit that region since the Maccabinian revolt in that area in 400bc (was it 400bc?) When were all the Jews kicked out (every one of them?) Its my understanding that THEIR country had Jewish settlements even at the time that they were recognized as Palestine. So why should he/she get out, oh person knowledgable in THEIR history?
I think I catch your singular wit. Traveller was a fun game, but obscure which makes yours a statement on the narrowminded monomeniacle lifestyle lead by geeks these days hilarious.
Surely I've been tempted to ask for a moderation value of "Writer should get more hobbies" since I feel like submiting that to about 1/3 of the posts I read here which are about imagionary dilemas and value systems that only work in a world without resources and economics.
Yeah I got a hold of it when I did my Science Fair project on hyper-cubes. I remember it said that Chinese philosophers could meditate and see the fourth dimension, so I tried it. For long time.
I also remember it saying that if a 4d object were observing a 3d object like a cabinet, that not only could it see the outside of the cabinet, it could see inside the cabinet as well, at the same time. Really mind expanding to think about.
predictions by Carl Sagan (who was a planetary scientist and an expert on the greenhouse effect and Venus).
Don't get me wrong. I loved how he pronounced "billions and billions" aboard his starship "imagionation" and reading his Encyclopedia Galactica. Contact is cool to. The man knew a lot about Venus, etc...
But how much can you call someone an expert who has witnessed 1/billionth of the life of a place they have never visited, but flew over occasionaly?
He's only an expert relative to a whole planet of people who know nothing about what is going on. I also lump Hawking in that category. Definately smarter and more informed than I am, but in the whole scheme of things we are both microbes, and they is just a bit smarter.
I think its *very* important to have such a reality check every now and again. We still know absolutely nothing. Heck we really can't get very far off this rock (earth) yet.
I read an essay once that really changed my paradigm to paleontology. An Anthropologist at the beginning of the school year asked his students to write an essay on "The day in the life of a Cave Man". Interestingly enough, these students that had no education or schooling whatsoever were able to adeptly describe the overly simple lives of beings who were keenly aware of their surroundings but accidentaly discovering the world around them.
This sounds more like one of those essays. I don't know of any creature in nature that is suprised or scared at the change in the length of days during winter, why whould cave men be that way?
I mean if all of a sudden the sun set at noon, we would be worried. But don't you think that someone who is having kids, and lived through 15 or more of these gradualy occuring events would get a clue and say "hey, this happens regularly. Zog need no gift from Moog. Gods must not exist.." After all the existance of perculiarities in the construction of Stone henge and other stone age structures suggest they knew they could predict when this happened.
Although they did move Christmas from Kings Day (1st week in april) to a pagan solstice celebration, whomever told you that story on how the pagan celebration came about was pulling your leg, or a high school teacher who didn't know any better.
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I'm thinking the same thing. The kit-hobbiests dream. I would prefer printing molds (forms) for carbon fiber parts. My own home engineering lab for making bicycles, cars, etc...
Anyone know of a place to learn how to do carbon fiber construction (even to the silicone carbide level) I would be very appreciative...
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and with that perspective point, I guess we are there. I think there was a spinoff called (or it was a spin off of) Beyond 2000, and we are there too. But I still can't by a washing machine that doesn't need soap.
Wow, haven't heard rhetoric this good since the Junior High lunchroom.
Votes do count, and this is a government based and dependant on participation. If corporations fill a large part of that participation, it is becuase of a lack of yours.
My understanding of it is that if it breaks, it just spins off into orbit. Maybe it would crash back down but no telling where that might be. Also, the length of the tether adds greatly to the needed thickness at the satalite. So anchoring it another mile on the ocean is not a good idea (aside from sea level considerations.)
A few weeks ago I read something on slashdot that really hit me strongly. I quote it badly, but how I quote it shows what hit me...
"The world is moving not to where governments own everything but corporations own everything. So that even when you purchase a product from a company they can still tell you how to use it."
Now a few good jokes...
"Bill Gates wants your money, Steve Jobs wants your soul..."
"He [Ellison] isn't your saviour, He just wants my job!" --Bill Gates
Why do I mention this? Doesn't RMS seem like this same kind of person also?
Others have noted that the code in question isn't copywrited by RMS. Others have noted that RMS is setting up a dual standard, where KDE is the first to benifit from his sudden insight that if your once a violator your always a violator (now doesn't that sound strangley like an emotionally petty and punitive responce rather than a legal responce?)
I ask the community straightly. Cut through the crap, is RMS stating legal advice for KDE or is he dictating how his code (or in this case code written under the liscence he wrote for his code) should be used?
Linus is well and good to never let people sign over the copyright to himself, but does the FSF require people to hand the copywright (which is the exact same copywright) ownership to themselves?
The GPL is about a community, not a person. Its not about freedom, its about benifiting from sharing (which one of the benifits is increased freedom). And sharing seems to be becoming more and more foreign a concept to RMS. Has his ring finnaly corrupted him?
I thought that the QPL was fine also, but I did respect the opinions of those that thought it wasn't good for KDE. Saying *you* raised a red flag in a sea of red flags that made a Stalin appreciation parade jealous is, well, something I've said before. Saying its all well and good, and expecting the community you think you represent to agree is, well, I'm getting tired of saying it.
You didn't start it, you didn't finish it, but you did help. Thats the bottom line.
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Well, if I still had the URL I'd love to post the greatest KDE liscencing flame war, the one that brought slashdot to its knees for almost a week, the one you wrote. Its still a good classic read for people who think that Slashdot is only now going downhill.
I never thought at the time though that I'd see the events that I've seen since then, let alone this post. But like the one a long time ago this seems to be like going to a charred building and screaming "Fire" with a gasoline can and a match.
Things were settled for most people then by an excellent Freshmeat essay on how the CDE and OpenLook wars almost killed UNIX. Most everyone felt good about letting things go on their merry way until your post brought it to a new idealogical and mud slinging level. Even then the issue was more your integrity as a even handed leader after showing such childish predjudice more than the QT liscencing.
And now that its GPLed you scream something needs to be done to make peace, and your sorry? I'm glad. Its good to see. But once again a little self important and too late.
But most of us really are moving on with our lives quite nicely without really much concern over this liscencing issue. I do publicly thank your in your efforts that made QT liscencing more friendly to our scheme of software development. You deserve thanks, but yelling sorry for being the kid who turned the lights out when the city went dark is kind of, well, you know...
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I think the issue is rather `Non-Threatening' rather than `Free'. Its been free for many uses since it became noticed by the community many years ago. The real fear however is just that it threatens our guild socialism, are community values and sharing system. But its pretty darn ego-centric to say what we consider freedom(tm) is truely freedom.
The scene of Optimus, all shot up and I think missing an arm. He had realized that he was a has been, and the Rodimus was the leader. Not having a place in the new scheme of things he is piloting a slowly exploding space craft on a suicide mission towards something I can't remember.
Even in cheezy resurection, Optimus managed to squeeze out some character development, with true gallantry and valor.
First of all, I'd like to once again offer translation for people who do not use debian...
Stable: Its too old to bother playing with so it won't be changing much.
I've been flamed and moderated down for mentioning this in the past but I actualy like this about Debian. It is true, a system is stable if it isn't changing much. Usualy in free software it isn't changing much becuase there isn't anything to fix, and its old enough that no one is really developing for it anyway. To proprietary distro's stable means it won't crash. But whats the use of getting the latest 4.0 release on disk when the day after you buy it a problem arises and you have to get 4.01? That isn't stable. And honestly its only the old software that no one is developing for that you can assume such stability from.
Unstable: We aren't sure where this is going yet but its the latest stuff.
Unfortunately unstable in the past has had things break. Like perl, libc, and bash. Things that darn near ruined a system and would leave to a re-install. Honestly I don't know how the bad versions got in the distro because the problems were sooo glaring and obvious that I can't assume that they were tested at all.
I've often brought up that there should be a little lag time to filter out such destructive incompetance. The response was "no, let the user beware." Really, all it would take is people running the 'incoming' distro to have things happen the way they are proposed to with the testing. But its just an automatic move from incoming to unstable, no QA whatsoever and from what they say there never will be. So this is the next most logical choice.
And just because lots of people talk about it, here is my take on the definition of Free...
Free: Doesn't threaten our guild socialism.
I personaly would like them to use 'nonthreatening' and 'threatening' instead of 'free' and 'nonfree'. It would simply be a lot more understandable. But wouldn't help keep the aloof holier-than-thou status that really attracts debian developers.
All in all if you learn their quirks in vocabulary its the best easiest funnest distro out there. And they could use your help incorporating such cool things as lothar, etc...
Slashdot Mirror
Now, when anyone posts how .net is cool for being very cross lingual, just remember folks this is yet another way of doing that same thing.
GTK also gets kudos for its success in the cross-lingual-hood.
Okay slashdotters time to earn your keep in a sponaneous hacker elite contest.
.NET
How would I compile, say, Lisp into Java bytecode? How would I get Ada to access classes that were written in Java?
The winner gets to overthrow/undermine
I believe it was Stephen Hawking that postulated that there was no '0' time.
I'll bite, the Big Bang I'm 70% sure of, God's role in it I'm realisticaly only 95% sure of.
But the question of "Why is there life?" is strange and I was dissapointed when I read the article and it wasn't until the very end that I read he wasn't even trying to answer that question. So why was the article titled that?
I don't know, but I've been having fun pondering on artificial, external and internal authority. What authorizes information? In this case science (if you are one of those that call cosmology science) looked like it was going to authorize an answer on one of the most ponderous questions out there. Did it? No. Did it explain the question he wanted to ask? Yeah. But through statistics, which I consider a pseudo proof so I'd rather not count it.
What couldn't be explained away is "Well there were a huge number of possibilities so it was bound to happen. Why not now?" It certainly is as believable as imagioning a higher power created things to people who lived in such an unenlightened state as before Darwin showed us the way. It is an artificial authorization and the great scientific cheap shot of the 20th century (maybe even 21st). Its the new cureall explainer of all that can't be explained. Join the party.
thanks. Abraham was 2000bc, (doh) I knew that.
Moses never entered (then Caanan). Joshua led the invasion (2000bc?). That was well before the Maccabees returned to now Israel after the Babylonian captivity (6?0bc).
Try again. Surely someone as well versed as you would know.
Silly troll, trips are for tweekers.
Name a time that Jews didn't inhabit that region since the Maccabinian revolt in that area in 400bc (was it 400bc?) When were all the Jews kicked out (every one of them?) Its my understanding that THEIR country had Jewish settlements even at the time that they were recognized as Palestine. So why should he/she get out, oh person knowledgable in THEIR history?
but why you chose to write your post that way is beyond me, exept that the self referencing is kind of quaint.
I think I catch your singular wit. Traveller was a fun game, but obscure which makes yours a statement on the narrowminded monomeniacle lifestyle lead by geeks these days hilarious.
Surely I've been tempted to ask for a moderation value of "Writer should get more hobbies" since I feel like submiting that to about 1/3 of the posts I read here which are about imagionary dilemas and value systems that only work in a world without resources and economics.
Yeah I got a hold of it when I did my Science Fair project on hyper-cubes. I remember it said that Chinese philosophers could meditate and see the fourth dimension, so I tried it. For long time.
I also remember it saying that if a 4d object were observing a 3d object like a cabinet, that not only could it see the outside of the cabinet, it could see inside the cabinet as well, at the same time. Really mind expanding to think about.
these posts are getting older than the "lets make a beowolf cluster out of these" posts.
predictions by Carl Sagan (who was a planetary scientist and an expert on the greenhouse effect and Venus).
Don't get me wrong. I loved how he pronounced "billions and billions" aboard his starship "imagionation" and reading his Encyclopedia Galactica. Contact is cool to. The man knew a lot about Venus, etc...
But how much can you call someone an expert who has witnessed 1/billionth of the life of a place they have never visited, but flew over occasionaly?
He's only an expert relative to a whole planet of people who know nothing about what is going on. I also lump Hawking in that category. Definately smarter and more informed than I am, but in the whole scheme of things we are both microbes, and they is just a bit smarter.
I think its *very* important to have such a reality check every now and again. We still know absolutely nothing. Heck we really can't get very far off this rock (earth) yet.
minds.
I read an essay once that really changed my paradigm to paleontology. An Anthropologist at the beginning of the school year asked his students to write an essay on "The day in the life of a Cave Man". Interestingly enough, these students that had no education or schooling whatsoever were able to adeptly describe the overly simple lives of beings who were keenly aware of their surroundings but accidentaly discovering the world around them.
This sounds more like one of those essays. I don't know of any creature in nature that is suprised or scared at the change in the length of days during winter, why whould cave men be that way?
I mean if all of a sudden the sun set at noon, we would be worried. But don't you think that someone who is having kids, and lived through 15 or more of these gradualy occuring events would get a clue and say "hey, this happens regularly. Zog need no gift from Moog. Gods must not exist.." After all the existance of perculiarities in the construction of Stone henge and other stone age structures suggest they knew they could predict when this happened.
Although they did move Christmas from Kings Day (1st week in april) to a pagan solstice celebration, whomever told you that story on how the pagan celebration came about was pulling your leg, or a high school teacher who didn't know any better.
I'm thinking the same thing. The kit-hobbiests dream. I would prefer printing molds (forms) for carbon fiber parts. My own home engineering lab for making bicycles, cars, etc...
Anyone know of a place to learn how to do carbon fiber construction (even to the silicone carbide level) I would be very appreciative...
and with that perspective point, I guess we are there. I think there was a spinoff called (or it was a spin off of) Beyond 2000, and we are there too. But I still can't by a washing machine that doesn't need soap.
Wow, haven't heard rhetoric this good since the Junior High lunchroom.
Votes do count, and this is a government based and dependant on participation. If corporations fill a large part of that participation, it is becuase of a lack of yours.
You have a dizzying intelect
Trust the low slashdot number (now just 1072 more people to *ahem....*)
My understanding of it is that if it breaks, it just spins off into orbit. Maybe it would crash back down but no telling where that might be. Also, the length of the tether adds greatly to the needed thickness at the satalite. So anchoring it another mile on the ocean is not a good idea (aside from sea level considerations.)
A few weeks ago I read something on slashdot that really hit me strongly. I quote it badly, but how I quote it shows what hit me...
"The world is moving not to where governments own everything but corporations own everything. So that even when you purchase a product from a company they can still tell you how to use it."
Now a few good jokes...
"Bill Gates wants your money, Steve Jobs wants your soul..."
"He [Ellison] isn't your saviour, He just wants my job!" --Bill Gates
Why do I mention this? Doesn't RMS seem like this same kind of person also?
Others have noted that the code in question isn't copywrited by RMS. Others have noted that RMS is setting up a dual standard, where KDE is the first to benifit from his sudden insight that if your once a violator your always a violator (now doesn't that sound strangley like an emotionally petty and punitive responce rather than a legal responce?)
I ask the community straightly. Cut through the crap, is RMS stating legal advice for KDE or is he dictating how his code (or in this case code written under the liscence he wrote for his code) should be used?
Linus is well and good to never let people sign over the copyright to himself, but does the FSF require people to hand the copywright (which is the exact same copywright) ownership to themselves?
The GPL is about a community, not a person. Its not about freedom, its about benifiting from sharing (which one of the benifits is increased freedom). And sharing seems to be becoming more and more foreign a concept to RMS. Has his ring finnaly corrupted him?
I thought that the QPL was fine also, but I did respect the opinions of those that thought it wasn't good for KDE. Saying *you* raised a red flag in a sea of red flags that made a Stalin appreciation parade jealous is, well, something I've said before. Saying its all well and good, and expecting the community you think you represent to agree is, well, I'm getting tired of saying it.
You didn't start it, you didn't finish it, but you did help. Thats the bottom line.
Well, if I still had the URL I'd love to post the greatest KDE liscencing flame war, the one that brought slashdot to its knees for almost a week, the one you wrote. Its still a good classic read for people who think that Slashdot is only now going downhill.
I never thought at the time though that I'd see the events that I've seen since then, let alone this post. But like the one a long time ago this seems to be like going to a charred building and screaming "Fire" with a gasoline can and a match.
Things were settled for most people then by an excellent Freshmeat essay on how the CDE and OpenLook wars almost killed UNIX. Most everyone felt good about letting things go on their merry way until your post brought it to a new idealogical and mud slinging level. Even then the issue was more your integrity as a even handed leader after showing such childish predjudice more than the QT liscencing.
And now that its GPLed you scream something needs to be done to make peace, and your sorry? I'm glad. Its good to see. But once again a little self important and too late.
But most of us really are moving on with our lives quite nicely without really much concern over this liscencing issue. I do publicly thank your in your efforts that made QT liscencing more friendly to our scheme of software development. You deserve thanks, but yelling sorry for being the kid who turned the lights out when the city went dark is kind of, well, you know...
I think the issue is rather `Non-Threatening' rather than `Free'. Its been free for many uses since it became noticed by the community many years ago. The real fear however is just that it threatens our guild socialism, are community values and sharing system. But its pretty darn ego-centric to say what we consider freedom(tm) is truely freedom.
ohhh yeah, and...
The scene of Optimus, all shot up and I think missing an arm. He had realized that he was a has been, and the Rodimus was the leader. Not having a place in the new scheme of things he is piloting a slowly exploding space craft on a suicide mission towards something I can't remember.
Even in cheezy resurection, Optimus managed to squeeze out some character development, with true gallantry and valor.
That got to me, and still does.
First of all, I'd like to once again offer translation for people who do not use debian...
Stable: Its too old to bother playing with so it won't be changing much.
I've been flamed and moderated down for mentioning this in the past but I actualy like this about Debian. It is true, a system is stable if it isn't changing much. Usualy in free software it isn't changing much becuase there isn't anything to fix, and its old enough that no one is really developing for it anyway. To proprietary distro's stable means it won't crash. But whats the use of getting the latest 4.0 release on disk when the day after you buy it a problem arises and you have to get 4.01? That isn't stable. And honestly its only the old software that no one is developing for that you can assume such stability from.
Unstable: We aren't sure where this is going yet but its the latest stuff.
Unfortunately unstable in the past has had things break. Like perl, libc, and bash. Things that darn near ruined a system and would leave to a re-install. Honestly I don't know how the bad versions got in the distro because the problems were sooo glaring and obvious that I can't assume that they were tested at all.
I've often brought up that there should be a little lag time to filter out such destructive incompetance. The response was "no, let the user beware." Really, all it would take is people running the 'incoming' distro to have things happen the way they are proposed to with the testing. But its just an automatic move from incoming to unstable, no QA whatsoever and from what they say there never will be. So this is the next most logical choice.
And just because lots of people talk about it, here is my take on the definition of Free...
Free: Doesn't threaten our guild socialism.
I personaly would like them to use 'nonthreatening' and 'threatening' instead of 'free' and 'nonfree'. It would simply be a lot more understandable. But wouldn't help keep the aloof holier-than-thou status that really attracts debian developers.
All in all if you learn their quirks in vocabulary its the best easiest funnest distro out there. And they could use your help incorporating such cool things as lothar, etc...