Re:What's with this hypersensivity about Apple?
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Pictures of New iMac
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The reason we bash is because you all react in some very amusing ways. It's ALMOST no fun to bait for flame here, because all you got to do is say "Steve Jobs is abandons his children" and you all rush to his defense like he's Elvis or something.
Mac's are just machines, no better or worse than other computers, but the mac enthusiasts believe that they are really special, and that we all should agree with them, because of the obvious truths which they preach (incessently, I might add)
They're just computers. They crash a lot, about the same as Win98 machines, and you can forget about multi-homing them (my personal beef). The technology isn't spectacular, it's average. And, Steve Jobs will arbitrarily kill off product lines that he didn't creat to satisfy his big, fat, child-abandoning ego. ttthhhhppppt!
2xAGP = this is a feature?! I thought it was standard equipment for some time now?
Airport = neat, albeit gimmicky in a desktop
better monitor = old news (now if they had cinema aspect screens at reasonable prices, that'd be something)
Firewire = dying a slow death. Not to mention it's old hat.
Intel isn't doing it's best to kill Firewire, it chose not to support it. That's not "doing their best to kill it" that's opting for another standard.
So by not having a trayless DVD (I can get all those other options (that didn't come standard on my low-end machine, that is) at a fraction of what Apple will sell them for) and airport (err.. can somebody say wavelan?) I'm being left behind? hmmm. Smoke less pot, dude.
You mean the overwhelming fear I've had of trench-coated goths for the last 6 months is wholly unneccessary, and I can go back to ignoring them?
I'm sure they will all be disappointed at their loss in distance-from-mainstream-society and notoriety points. Oh, well. I still blame it all on Marilyn Manson...
I'd get mine on my butt, with an anaconda and jaguar intertwined around it. That way you'd have a legitimate reason to drop trow and moon everytime you wnated to buy something.
It would be really handy to get a picture of Bill Gates tattoo and have that put on the appropriate cheek as well. So much for high-security.
It seems that finding the location of these stations would be easy, considering the power levels required to transmit worldwide.
I understand that shortwave broadcast propogate rather well, but still, with a a directional antenna and a car, it should be possible to triangulate(using non-euclidian geometry! What fun!) to come up with a list of possible locations.
That's great that there are benchmarks, but... errrm, what the hell does it mean? Did Linux do well? Poor? Average? And most importantly, did it, or did it not, whip the hell out of the NT benchmarks?
Leaving the county doesn't really qualify you as having "travelled extensively". If you went to the big city, you'll see lots of people with a Palmpilot.:)
When I carried a Newton around, anyone who owned one who saw me unpack it would run up and swap notes (and business cards) with me. Now, there are so many people with Palms, hardly anybody notices it, and everyone knbows at least one person who has one.
You realize that if we continue to use Pilot in reference to the PalmPilot, that Pilot pens will lose their trademark. They have to aggressively defend their trademark, if it becomes part of the popular vernacular, they lose it. So call your pilot a pilot wespecially when there's a shot of you being quoted on TV...
Isn't it obvious what it was that you did? You dissed Apple, and that is a cardinal sin amongst Mac lusers. (this is flamebait)
I agree with you fully Mononoke, for I too own a MessagePad. The Newton was a great device to program, but it had one fatal flaw: It wasn't one of Steve Jobs babies (errm... I mean projects, because we all know that he does abandon his babies). They let it go to sink or swim, then Jobs reeled it in because he couldn't stand to have a product line succeed that he didn't "create".
If you don't like shareware, you can write your own replacement programs and release them under the GPL, there's no law that says you can't (yet). I have software on my Palm that is GPL'ed.
The source code to the OS is available to developers (for the most part, not all of it is available) to make your programs more stable.
I just don't see the point of having a bloated desktop OS on a palmtop other than for the sheer intellectual exercise.
The Free Software movement could never support the full time development of a hardware platform. The Software model is fine: it requires brains and something to write with. Hardware needs fabrication plants. You can't buy fabs with honorable intentions or unselfish motives.
Yeah, and is 3Com going to unceremoniously dump the Palm line in order to satisfy the ego of its iCEO? Is 3Com going to blunder its way to success by first licenscing, then rescinding it's licenses, leaving its "loyal users" dangling in the wind? Is 3Com going to modify its processors/motherboard so that ONLY 3Com approved upgrades and processors can be used in their machines? Is it?!?!
YOu can get a color windowsCE device for not much more thana top of the line Palm...
$300 more, that's not much... I suppose... Oh, and did I mention the 8 hour battery life... Those who have never used/owned a handy little machine have no idea just how important battery life is. I used to own a Newton MP130, and as beautiful as the bright back light was, I'd have to put 4 new AA's in that thing every week and a half. That sucked. And, it weighed a lot. And, it was huge. And, it was expensive. The MP costed me about what a color CE handheld costs. Palm is the way to go. Hopefully they'll get smaller and smaller and smaller... What's important to consider is not the price/features ratio, it's the price/utility ratio. In that category, Palm wastes the competition (in my learned and world weary opinion).
NO kidding, $249/8megs on a Palm is pretty darn cool. I was looking at the Helio for my next palm-sized machine, but now there's no reason. I really like PalmOS and I'm already familiar with the development environment. I wasn't looking forward to aquainting myself with yet another proprietary OS(on the Helio).
I think a lot of people go that impression after all that anti-Palm FUD on the story about how they're suing the Davinci people. I was under the impression that they were open to licencsing deals, big time. They'll even let you see most of the OS source if you sign a contract on their web-site.
Handspring was founded by Palm's founders with the intent of licencsing PalmOS and making other products with it.
Does OS/2 have USB support? You'd be wanting to pick up the optional serial port cradle, then. It won't even connect to NT straight out of the box. I have a feeling that's because of the rechargable LI battery, though. It probably draws power from the USB port.
Tubes? When I first started using machines, we carved our logic gates out of hickory, and if you wanted memory, you had to mine the iron ore yourself, smelt it, then make the magnets which you would attach to the hickory gates (that's what we called them back then) and you'd have your 1J of memory. It was called J because K hadn't been invented yet...
Cost of Psion 7 vs. Low end laptop
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What advantage is there to buying one of these? The form factor is similar to a subnote, which are coming down to the $1000-$1200 price range, in the US. It's a lot like those CE POS's that cost $1200 and have less than half the functionality of a notebook. I don't see this thing succeeding (or the CE toys) until the price comes down to sub-$600. I wouldn't consider buying one until they reach that price point.
...Who're copying BMW, or so the story goes. It's more classy, more continental to skip the even numbers. I tell you though, Continental Breakfast reflects poorly on the continent...
Steve Jobs can't dump this to satisfy his ego...
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Fortunately that ego-maniacal tyrant Steve Jobs can't touch this baby! So it may be worth developing on...
The reason we bash is because you all react in some very amusing ways. It's ALMOST no fun to bait for flame here, because all you got to do is say "Steve Jobs is abandons his children" and you all rush to his defense like he's Elvis or something.
Mac's are just machines, no better or worse than other computers, but the mac enthusiasts believe that they are really special, and that we all should agree with them, because of the obvious truths which they preach (incessently, I might add)
They're just computers. They crash a lot, about the same as Win98 machines, and you can forget about multi-homing them (my personal beef). The technology isn't spectacular, it's average. And, Steve Jobs will arbitrarily kill off product lines that he didn't creat to satisfy his big, fat, child-abandoning ego. ttthhhhppppt!
They make a machine that's gray colored, sort of iron gray
They call that color graphite(tm)
trayless DVD = gimmick
2xAGP = this is a feature?! I thought it was standard equipment for some time now?
Airport = neat, albeit gimmicky in a desktop
better monitor = old news (now if they had cinema aspect screens at reasonable prices, that'd be something)
Firewire = dying a slow death. Not to mention it's old hat.
Intel isn't doing it's best to kill Firewire, it chose not to support it. That's not "doing their best to kill it" that's opting for another standard.
So by not having a trayless DVD (I can get all those other options (that didn't come standard on my low-end machine, that is) at a fraction of what Apple will sell them for) and airport (err.. can somebody say wavelan?) I'm being left behind? hmmm. Smoke less pot, dude.
Sorry, Industrial design != advance in technology.
To the non-believer, avant-garde industrial design seems to be Apple's answer to the question of "How do we innovate?" You can have it.
Doesn't matter, they'll just home in on the magnetic strip on your Driver's license.
It'll be years before the Wintel manufacturers can copy this Earth Shattering new technology.
You mean the overwhelming fear I've had of trench-coated goths for the last 6 months is wholly unneccessary, and I can go back to ignoring them?
I'm sure they will all be disappointed at their loss in distance-from-mainstream-society and notoriety points. Oh, well. I still blame it all on Marilyn Manson...
Earth: Mostly Harmless.
I'd get mine on my butt, with an anaconda and jaguar intertwined around it. That way you'd have a legitimate reason to drop trow and moon everytime you wnated to buy something.
It would be really handy to get a picture of Bill Gates tattoo and have that put on the appropriate cheek as well. So much for high-security.
It seems that finding the location of these stations would be easy, considering the power levels required to transmit worldwide.
I understand that shortwave broadcast propogate rather well, but still, with a a directional antenna and a car, it should be possible to triangulate(using non-euclidian geometry! What fun!) to come up with a list of possible locations.
That's great that there are benchmarks, but... errrm, what the hell does it mean? Did Linux do well? Poor? Average? And most importantly, did it, or did it not, whip the hell out of the NT benchmarks?
Leaving the county doesn't really qualify you as having "travelled extensively". If you went to the big city, you'll see lots of people with a Palmpilot. :)
When I carried a Newton around, anyone who owned one who saw me unpack it would run up and swap notes (and business cards) with me. Now, there are so many people with Palms, hardly anybody notices it, and everyone knbows at least one person who has one.
Maybe its a West Coast thing...
You realize that if we continue to use Pilot in reference to the PalmPilot, that Pilot pens will lose their trademark. They have to aggressively defend their trademark, if it becomes part of the popular vernacular, they lose it. So call your pilot a pilot wespecially when there's a shot of you being quoted on TV...
Isn't it obvious what it was that you did? You dissed Apple, and that is a cardinal sin amongst Mac lusers. (this is flamebait)
I agree with you fully Mononoke, for I too own a MessagePad. The Newton was a great device to program, but it had one fatal flaw: It wasn't one of Steve Jobs babies (errm... I mean projects, because we all know that he does abandon his babies). They let it go to sink or swim, then Jobs reeled it in because he couldn't stand to have a product line succeed that he didn't "create".
If you don't like shareware, you can write your own replacement programs and release them under the GPL, there's no law that says you can't (yet). I have software on my Palm that is GPL'ed.
The source code to the OS is available to developers (for the most part, not all of it is available) to make your programs more stable.
I just don't see the point of having a bloated desktop OS on a palmtop other than for the sheer intellectual exercise.
The Free Software movement could never support the full time development of a hardware platform. The Software model is fine: it requires brains and something to write with. Hardware needs fabrication plants. You can't buy fabs with honorable intentions or unselfish motives.
Yeah, and is 3Com going to unceremoniously dump the Palm line in order to satisfy the ego of its iCEO? Is 3Com going to blunder its way to success by first licenscing, then rescinding it's licenses, leaving its "loyal users" dangling in the wind? Is 3Com going to modify its processors/motherboard so that ONLY 3Com approved upgrades and processors can be used in their machines? Is it?!?!
$300 more, that's not much... I suppose... Oh, and did I mention the 8 hour battery life...
Those who have never used/owned a handy little machine have no idea just how important battery life is. I used to own a Newton MP130, and as beautiful as the bright back light was, I'd have to put 4 new AA's in that thing every week and a half. That sucked. And, it weighed a lot. And, it was huge. And, it was expensive. The MP costed me about what a color CE handheld costs. Palm is the way to go. Hopefully they'll get smaller and smaller and smaller...
What's important to consider is not the price/features ratio, it's the price/utility ratio. In that category, Palm wastes the competition (in my learned and world weary opinion).
Not to mention the fact that there is no input method for ucLinux. I suppose you could leave it on its cradle and rlogin...
NO kidding, $249/8megs on a Palm is pretty darn cool. I was looking at the Helio for my next palm-sized machine, but now there's no reason. I really like PalmOS and I'm already familiar with the development environment. I wasn't looking forward to aquainting myself with yet another proprietary OS(on the Helio).
I think a lot of people go that impression after all that anti-Palm FUD on the story about how they're suing the Davinci people. I was under the impression that they were open to licencsing deals, big time. They'll even let you see most of the OS source if you sign a contract on their web-site.
Handspring was founded by Palm's founders with the intent of licencsing PalmOS and making other products with it.
Does OS/2 have USB support? You'd be wanting to pick up the optional serial port cradle, then. It won't even connect to NT straight out of the box. I have a feeling that's because of the rechargable LI battery, though. It probably draws power from the USB port.
Tubes? When I first started using machines, we carved our logic gates out of hickory, and if you wanted memory, you had to mine the iron ore yourself, smelt it, then make the magnets which you would attach to the hickory gates (that's what we called them back then) and you'd have your 1J of memory. It was called J because K hadn't been invented yet...
What advantage is there to buying one of these? The form factor is similar to a subnote, which are coming down to the $1000-$1200 price range, in the US. It's a lot like those CE POS's that cost $1200 and have less than half the functionality of a notebook. I don't see this thing succeeding (or the CE toys) until the price comes down to sub-$600. I wouldn't consider buying one until they reach that price point.
...Who're copying BMW, or so the story goes. It's more classy, more continental to skip the even numbers. I tell you though, Continental Breakfast reflects poorly on the continent...
Fortunately that ego-maniacal tyrant Steve Jobs can't touch this baby! So it may be worth developing on...