Well I meant rather disposing off the ISS somewhere around Earth where they could scavenge stuff from it at a later date rather then let 450 metric tons of potential material burn up in the atmosphere.
So whenever we abandon it we could just attach a big honking tug and put in some graveyard orbit.
Hell once we get space tugs operational we should just put all those old satellites and other salvageable space derbies floating around into a big space junkyard.
Then maybe the junks mutual gravity will pull all that junk conveniently together and form what could be called a 'junkotroid' for ease of salvage.
Didn't they say they were going to actually test this on the ISS itself around 2011-2012 or so?
Also would disposing of the ISS in one of the L points for parts and stuff be a good idea?
The VASIMR engine should be good around 2016-2020 right, so it shouldn't be that big of a leap I suppose.
Its probably a good idea to see what crap Jupiter has collected in L points over the eons.
Maybe we'll find an alien probe or something?
Also does anyone know if the Trojan asteroids are more densely packed then the belt?
No.
The main reasons why we don't have space solar power (yet) are as follows.
A: The infrastructure to support launching all that mass into orbit (RLV's, ground facilites, etc) does not exist and will not exist for at least a decade. (or maybe if we are lucky 5 years)
B: Even if we tried too launch them now they would be horrendously expensive and would most likely be beset with cost overruns and all those other nasty things socialism entails.:)
C: They can't even compete with ground based solar energy now, so I doubt they could handle nukes or fossil fuel plants.
Have a nice day.:P
We are trying to do that right now.
Give us 5 years or so and that space hotel of yours should be in orbit.
As well as more economical space access and the like.
Except this is private industry and not the government. (kinda)
And whats your beef against tourism? Tourism could create a sustainable industry and infrastructure for the use of space that could not be created by the shuttle, nor the government for that matter.
Yeah but then we get into genetic engineering, stealing other lifeforms genes and correcting our own errors.
Then we make a bunch a furries and make dolphins intelligent.
MONDAY, MARCH 19, 2007
2257 GMT (6:57 p.m. EDT)
NEW LAUNCH TIME. Liftoff is now targeted for 2345 GMT (7:45 p.m. EDT). Fueling of the rocket had been suspended while trying to correct the data transmission problem between Omelek Island and the company's headquarters in El Segundo, California. So the launch team is now working to get back on track for liftoff.
Blast it.
You could always use on of these puppies.
http://www.nuclearspace.com/a_liberty_ship10.htm
Sure they would be an environmentalists nightmare, but hey 1000tons to Leo is too good of a deal to pass up.
Well I meant rather disposing off the ISS somewhere around Earth where they could scavenge stuff from it at a later date rather then let 450 metric tons of potential material burn up in the atmosphere. So whenever we abandon it we could just attach a big honking tug and put in some graveyard orbit. Hell once we get space tugs operational we should just put all those old satellites and other salvageable space derbies floating around into a big space junkyard. Then maybe the junks mutual gravity will pull all that junk conveniently together and form what could be called a 'junkotroid' for ease of salvage.
Didn't they say they were going to actually test this on the ISS itself around 2011-2012 or so? Also would disposing of the ISS in one of the L points for parts and stuff be a good idea? The VASIMR engine should be good around 2016-2020 right, so it shouldn't be that big of a leap I suppose.
Its probably a good idea to see what crap Jupiter has collected in L points over the eons. Maybe we'll find an alien probe or something? Also does anyone know if the Trojan asteroids are more densely packed then the belt?
No. The main reasons why we don't have space solar power (yet) are as follows. A: The infrastructure to support launching all that mass into orbit (RLV's, ground facilites, etc) does not exist and will not exist for at least a decade. (or maybe if we are lucky 5 years) B: Even if we tried too launch them now they would be horrendously expensive and would most likely be beset with cost overruns and all those other nasty things socialism entails. :)
C: They can't even compete with ground based solar energy now, so I doubt they could handle nukes or fossil fuel plants.
Have a nice day. :P
Move along, nothing to see here people. Blarg.
We are trying to do that right now. Give us 5 years or so and that space hotel of yours should be in orbit. As well as more economical space access and the like.
Except this is private industry and not the government. (kinda) And whats your beef against tourism? Tourism could create a sustainable industry and infrastructure for the use of space that could not be created by the shuttle, nor the government for that matter.
Yeah but then we get into genetic engineering, stealing other lifeforms genes and correcting our own errors. Then we make a bunch a furries and make dolphins intelligent.
Incorrect the soviets did it first with their kamikaze satellites in the 70s and other stuff before we did it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon
People like you make me fear greatly for our future.
Saturn's have not been used in decades.
Checklist, eh? Where would I find this 'Checklist'?
MONDAY, MARCH 19, 2007 2257 GMT (6:57 p.m. EDT) NEW LAUNCH TIME. Liftoff is now targeted for 2345 GMT (7:45 p.m. EDT). Fueling of the rocket had been suspended while trying to correct the data transmission problem between Omelek Island and the company's headquarters in El Segundo, California. So the launch team is now working to get back on track for liftoff. Blast it.
No. For one thing I enjoy knowing that I can have forewarning of attacks against us.
You could always use on of these puppies. http://www.nuclearspace.com/a_liberty_ship10.htm Sure they would be an environmentalists nightmare, but hey 1000tons to Leo is too good of a deal to pass up.
Hey man, put down that bong and take a step back.
Yay!