Not as bad an idea as it sounds. My advice is to not waste the department's money, and your time, buying, installing, and using a sheet feed scanner. Somebody in your local area assuredly has one already that they either rent out to people in your situation, or that they use to do the work you need done.
Use the funds that the department gave you to have your local copy shop do the work. They will almost certainly do it faster than you could, and the end product will most certainly be better than what you could provide. This is the kind of thing that the people who work at copy shops do for a living.
Also PDF is a great format for this, highly portable, and so far fairly version proof. You don't have to worry about the PDF being obsolete before the professor decides to change the structure of his class.
So that you are aware, whatever company called you at 7 A.M. was in clear violation of the law. It is illigal to place an unsolicited phone call before 8 A.M. and after 9 P.M. (yes this sucks for those third shifters out there, trust me). This applies to both sales and non-sales phone calls.
I have actually been fortunate enough to learn plenty about the laws regulating unsolicited calling due to some work I did with a reputable maret research firm (which mostly worked with the government, collecting important statistical data). I also learned that many many telemarketers (completely different beasties, I know I've worked with them too) completely ignore these laws.
Basically, if you know your rights in the arena you can make a ton of money, it's proffitable for them to break the law because most people don't know it, and those that do rarely follow through.
Eventually, everybody is going on the list," said Art Conway, president of DialAmerica Marketing. "If you create this national do-not-call list, the way you have it proposed, we're going out of business."
Having had a job at one of the evil telemarketing companies I can tell you exactly why this is...
The emplyee is sitting there in the call room, and somebody indicates they have a sale, whatever, cool, mostly you don't give a flying fuck. The "customer" walks away from the phone and leaves it there.
Five minutes later your boss walks out, and see's you sitting there doing nothing while you've been on the same call for five minutes.
Boss: "What are you doing?" with an angry tone of voice. Telemarketing flack: "Oh, this is a sale, he said he was just going to go get his credit card." Boss: "Oh, good." noticably happier.
Only if the Peasent is Bill Gates or Steve Balmer... okay, maybe Larry Elison too.
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[Blockquote] Oh please, its still the super-happy ending. I mean, his son is "re-born" through his newly-pregnant wife. As for the pre-cogs, isolation is the only way for them to by happy as I assume contact with others provokes their visions. [Blockquote]
I'm sorry, but you obviously don't have children. One child does not "replace" another, how insensitive can you be, I mean honestly.
The precogs get to live out as normal a life as possible for them, they are still burdened with their unique ability, and still effectively imprisoned by that and the state that once exploited them for it.
Murder eventually returned, and all the rest of societies ills continued unabated.
Just because the end of the movie showed a few "happy" images doesn't mean it had a happy ending, I mean I know you can read and write, so use your brain!
Funny, I thought it was a way of saying "I love my country." It doesn't even necessarily mean you support the current administration's method of protecting national interests (although most people do, and it seems to be working well so far since no terrorists have been able to pull anything off yet), just that you love your country.
WOW! A whole six months without a terrorist attack! That must be some kind of a reccord. Seriously though, you can agree or disagree with the administration's pollicies, it's really no sweat off my back, but don't give them credit for doing the ordinary.
As a person who has worked in a technical roll for a market research company, and as a telesales agent (the job sucks, and screw alla y'all who think I'm evil because I worked for a telemarketer and could have gone to flip burgers at McDicks, I DID quit, and had to move back in with my parents three months later after I had spent my entire savings, due to the fact that I couldn't find a job), I can bring some ACTUAL information to this debate. I'm not personally farmiliar with the telezapper, but based on what I've read here it would be fairly successfull, if it generates the three signal tones.
Predictive dialers DO disconnect from these numbers, however many predictive dialers are also capable of telling when a answering machine picks up (tape noise in the background), when a fax or modem picks up, etc, some of these things are incredibly intelligent.
Also, telemarketers will prescreen the number lists that they purchase from outside vendors, as these lists often contain a large amount of invalid numbers, the prescreening process doesn't ring your phone, it is a process of testing weather or not the line is "live," a phone line will ring durring this process perhaps one out of one hundred times, and only once in that case.
Telemarketers are required to maintain private do-not-call lists, and filter their purchased numbers by them, this law does not apply to market researchers (people not trying to sell anything), there is a NATIONAL do-not-call list to which you can add your name by talking to your local post office.
In other tid-bits of legal information on telemarketers/teleresearch, they may not legally place calls before 7:00 a.m. or after 9:00 p.m. (in the US). It is illigal to send an unsolicited fax, or place an unsolicited call to a cell phone, though a company can usually get away with calling a cell phone if they can make a good case that they didn't know it was a cell phone and when they found out they disconnected promptly if there was a disconnect request (some areas do have mixed cell/land-line exchanges, therefore if you live in one of these areas you can expect to recieve telemarketing calls on your phone).
Interestingly enough you can already do everything that this machine does, and for considerably less than the 30k price tag. Go down to your local kinkos (or any other large scale copy shop for that matter) with a PDF file of the book you want to print, or better yet send it in over the web. As long as you have copyright access to the matterials contained within they will be more than happy to Print, Cut and Bind a professional looking book for you. True not ALL kinkos (or other copy shops), have the facilities to bind your book so it looks like a paperback, but many do.
In fact this is the area where you are most likely to see these machines first, not your local book store, or small publisher. The reason is speed, at "a few minutes" per book these machines are not nearly fast enough to be used in the publishing industry, and they will most likely require a signifigant ammount of training to run. When was the last time you trusted your local book store register jock to make you latte correctly? Copy shop employees operate this type of machinery on a regular basis, so training costs would be lowered, and heck, copy shops are where this type of thing is most in demand (you can tell because that's where it happens now).
Disclaimer, I do work at Kinko's, but this isn't an ad or a Troll.
I have been blessed with many wonderfull teachers, both in out out of the classroom, from my 12th grade teacher, who pushed everyone in my class so hard that we all thought college was a joke, to College professors who understood that I knew how to learn and that I would put most of my class to shame if they just let me do what interested me. I've only had one bad teacher, and she was just to tired to teach any more, but thirty or more years of teaching high school will do that to anyone.
But I had to teachers who stand out above the rest. By the time I entered fourth grade I hadn't spent a single day of my life in "normal" school, and I didn't plan to start then. I had been enrolled in a program in which kindergardeners through fourth graders all shared a classroom and teacher, and I was entering a program where not only did fourth through eigth graders share a classroom and teacher, but each student was allowed to set their own educational goals and map out their own schedual for the week. The day I started fourth grade was the day I met Carol. She was one of the founders of the program I was enrolled in, and of all the "Adults" I ever met she was the most alive. Carol was, I think, one of the most critical, harsh teachers I have ever had. She was tough, but she never punished anyone out of turn, and the punishment was never out of proportion with the wrong.
All that said though, Carol let you set your own pace, and she let you challenge your self. Not only that, but she was genuinly happy for you when you did something extra-ordinary. I knew her durring four of the most important years of my life, though she wasn't officially my teacher untill eigth grade. I acceled in eigth grade, I read more, and learned more about math, than I think I have since, I pushed myself and she helped, she was always there when I needed a hand, or had a question, and she tought me that I had to fight through bad days, and not just give up. Durring eigth grade, under carols supervision, not only did I complete all of the eigth grade math, but also all of the nineth grade math. I learned to read hundreds of pages in an afternoon, and I learned to learn things without the organizational and memorizational aids that help most people, but had always slowed me down. Carol recognized that I had the potential to be not only a good learner, but a great one, and she brought that out in me, I owe her a debt so great that I will never be able to repay it. So every day I do all I can to make her prowd of me.
In ninth grade I encountered the second great teacher of my life, one who had the same first name as me, and one who had just started teaching the year before. Sam wasn't a big man, but he had a huge personality and he just radiated energy. To this day I still remember the tenis ball that he always seemed to have with him, and how it would never stop moving from his hand, to the wall, and the floor, then back into his hand. One day after class Sam came up to me and told me that he knew I could do better in class, and that I only seemed to be doing what was needed to pass his class. So I told him the truth. I told my teacher that he wasn't challenging me, I told him that he was in fact boring the shit out of me. He told me he could fix that.
So, for the rest of the year I spent most of my time wishing that I had never said those things to my teacher, because not only was I doing the same work as the other freshmen, but I was also doing the work that was being assigned to his senior honors students. Sam pushed me, but he also let me know that I could stop at any time, and I did take some breaks, around the time of mid terms, and finals, I took some breaks. But he would always bring me back to those books, that were... perfect for me. It was the first time, that I had ever really been challenged by not only the language and words of literature, but also by the ideas and the intelligence conveyed by it. I will always remember sitting in Sams classroom with the high outside windows on the far wall, reading The Cavern, by Socrates, and having my whole world change around me.
I have heard that Sam went on to get his masters, or doctorate, and I have no doubt that he is now teaching very lucky students at a college somewhere. I hope that he is still challenging those students to enlarge their minds, and their perceptions of the world, like he challenged me. Sam, you tought me how to live, and I will never forget you, or your tenis ball.
Agreed. It darned hard to give up meat. However, most 'health gurus' of the states agrees that meat is bad for the body in the long run.
Okay... You are oversimplifying a rather interesting point about the modern consumption of meat. What those 'health gurus' actually say is that eating the AMOUNT and type of meat that we americans generally do (factory farm raised, chemically treated), is bad for us in the long term. However eating better meat less frequently actually has health benefits, mainly derived from the proteans et. al. that are the reasons why meat tastes so yummy. Basically they say that like almost everything else about modern american society, its okay to eat meat in moderation (moderation being a much lower level than 'normal'), however not to excess. Like drinking red wine, eating prunes, etc.
There are of course health benefits to a well thought out, well prepaired vegetarian life style as well. And you avoid the 'suffering' of animals, by deciding to kill plants most of which have a far more developed nervous system.
On a personal note, I have eaten several animals that I have seen born and raised, then killed. I can categorically say that they did not suffer.
So if someone created, say, a bag that allowed people to carry conceled weapons into secure areas, such as airports, the creator of the product would not be somehow responsible for the use of the product?
Actually, legally speaking, no they would not. Just because you make a product does not mean that you must ensure that everyone who uses your product uses it in the manner intended. You might want to include some warnings or something, but you are not legally responsible for their actions while using your product.
Think about it this way, if someone were to kill another person using a spoon, would the maker of that spoon be responsible for the killing?
Thats an extreme example, but it points out how far something like this goes.
P.S. People already manufacture guns that I could walk into almost any airport in the world with. Think High temerature/preassure ceramics, caseless ammo, and plastic bullets.
After listening to Lars' comments RE copyrighted works et. al. I am reminded of what we were hearing a couple of months ago about OpenSource software. He seemed to be holding on very tightly to the idea that you can't make money producing something which is Free (as in beer).
However in many cases this has proven just not to be true. Coders in the software industry (anologous to Musicians) are now getting payed for producing code that is totally free, and which in theory their companies wouldn't make a dime from (but they somehow do). The software industry, one that has had to deal with non-degrading copies for all of its life has figured out that sometimes its better not to charge for a product. Its also interesting to note that there are several companies that make money by selling free products (linux distributers spring to mind, selling CD's and service contracts for their Free versions of the OS).
In short the recording industry, the RIAA in particular, needs to take a long hard look at alternative revanue models, and accept the fact that the world is changing into a place where information DOES long to be free.
heh, I live within 10 minutes of one of IBM's major plants and the stuff that they keep under wraps for years on end is scarry. I have to let you in on a secret though, they want to release all the really cool stuff they have, they just can't, due to good ol' Uncle Sammy. IBM is extremely fearfull of antitrust cases, and they are so far ahead of the current SOTA (State Of The Art), that they would end up being the only hardware company of any worth out there if they released/utlilized all of the tech that they keep under wraps.
I'm not being an IBM shill here, I'm just talking about what I know based on my visits to the plant and talking with engeneers there.
PMIRC! My favorite client for a *LONG* time, till I ended up on X-Chat and Linux, OpenBSD, etc etc.
While on the topic of IRC programs I'd like to take a seccond to eulogize my favorite IRC client, also OS/2 based. OpenChat how I'll miss you and your scriptable GUI.
Fortunatly that and the WPS are the only two programs that were developed on OS/2 that were/are the best in class (IMO), PMMail and PMView have both been ported to (eww) windows, and hopefully we'll be able to talk the dev's into porting them to Linux RSN.
Alas OS/2 is semi-officially dead, I'll probably keep it alive on my box if only to see if Odin and Everblue get finished (which would make OS/2 usefull again, more usefull than windows).
Let's find out, anybody got a list of CC#s? (just curious, a simple yes or no will do....)
No, but I could by tommorw, seeing as how I work for a major un-named retail outlet that has a huge data base of card numbers, not to mention the number of people who just hand me their CC's every day.
not that I'd ever do anything with the numbers (including posting them on/. as a test).
You know you have a point. This is almost exatly the box I would want (and built using off the shelf components), as far as I'm concerned there are only three problems with the thing. 1) No 5 1/4" external bay (so I couldn't hook up a CD or DVD-rom drive). 2) Internal IDE connector Disabled (it would make life just a little easier if I didn't have to supply an old ISA IDE card). 3) No Network card (I use a cable modem, and I'd rather not use up the PCI slot with a network card).
With a slightly differant case, and an internal IDE card and modem this could be the worlds best DVD player (assuming of course there was commercial grade DVD software for linux). It'd do full internet (not just web surfing), DVD play back, MP3 play back, and general computing, all for about $400 (you'd have to include the price for a cheep hard drive and a DVD-rom/decoder board). All in all I can't see why they just didn't go that route instead of trying to immitated the failed web TV.
Remember that where ever you go, whatever you do, the penquin is watching.
I THINK that lotus is planning on releasing a version of Notes server for linux, that could be a replacement, though not a drop in replacement. Other than that I'd suggest an IMAP server and replicating Exchanges other features (I don't use exchange, so I don't know all of them) such as Calendering and Colaboration and others with Web based apps (using php and mySQL and such).
Okay, I have to agree with most everyone else that this does seem a little bit like over-reaction, we don't know exactly what this program does, and how it "profiles" Kids in HS.
What bothers me though is that this software really seems to be desinged to Identify dangerous thought, and that scares me far more than any "geek profiling" program (software or otherwise) would. This comes dangerously close to policing people for things that they haven't done and have no intention of ever doing, and weather your a geek or a jock or a prep, or a socialite, or a Streight-A student without much time for socilising outside of other Streight-A students, that should scare you.
There's another thing that bothers me as well, and that is that this software is desinged to warn of possible "Dangerous" behaviour. Who the fuck decides whats dangerous. Some of Katz's Ideas of danger scare the hell out of me, and I don't think that I trust many other people to define danger for me. And thats the crux of my objection, "Danger" is a word like "Indecent," poorly defined, and variable.
Another issue that troubles me is one that Katz pointed out, there has been a steady decline in violence over the last decade, not only among youth, but among almost every sector of American society. Yet all this attention, is being payed to the so called "youth violence epidemic." This is the most clear case of the government and the media feeding off of the publics fears and steriotypes to turn a profit and crack down on more of people's essential freedoms. I know its been said time and time again, but if we allow to this to happen who know where it could lead. If this happening in High school doesn't scare you just think that you may have to submit to a mental screening test like this the next time you take an interview at one of those nice high paying silicon vally jobs that everyone on slashdot but myself seems to have. Thought profiling on a widespread level is scary man.
Sleep! Who would ever waste their time doing that?
Listen, if I have to be in class I might as well be doing something PRODUCTIVE with my time.
Outsource the job to India.
Not as bad an idea as it sounds. My advice is to not waste the department's money, and your time, buying, installing, and using a sheet feed scanner. Somebody in your local area assuredly has one already that they either rent out to people in your situation, or that they use to do the work you need done.
Use the funds that the department gave you to have your local copy shop do the work. They will almost certainly do it faster than you could, and the end product will most certainly be better than what you could provide. This is the kind of thing that the people who work at copy shops do for a living.
Also PDF is a great format for this, highly portable, and so far fairly version proof. You don't have to worry about the PDF being obsolete before the professor decides to change the structure of his class.
So that you are aware, whatever company called you at 7 A.M. was in clear violation of the law. It is illigal to place an unsolicited phone call before 8 A.M. and after 9 P.M. (yes this sucks for those third shifters out there, trust me). This applies to both sales and non-sales phone calls.
I have actually been fortunate enough to learn plenty about the laws regulating unsolicited calling due to some work I did with a reputable maret research firm (which mostly worked with the government, collecting important statistical data). I also learned that many many telemarketers (completely different beasties, I know I've worked with them too) completely ignore these laws.
Basically, if you know your rights in the arena you can make a ton of money, it's proffitable for them to break the law because most people don't know it, and those that do rarely follow through.
Hey... that dude used to be my boss.
Wait... Yeah. Art, FUCK OFF YOUR COMPANY SUCKS!
Having had a job at one of the evil telemarketing companies I can tell you exactly why this is...
The emplyee is sitting there in the call room, and somebody indicates they have a sale, whatever, cool, mostly you don't give a flying fuck. The "customer" walks away from the phone and leaves it there.
Five minutes later your boss walks out, and see's you sitting there doing nothing while you've been on the same call for five minutes.
Boss: "What are you doing?" with an angry tone of voice.
Telemarketing flack: "Oh, this is a sale, he said he was just going to go get his credit card."
Boss: "Oh, good." noticably happier.
Viola, 50 minute break.
There's no I'd do if if George W. Bush was on the other end... then Cheney'd be president and THAT's too scary to contemplate.
Only if the Peasent is Bill Gates or Steve Balmer... okay, maybe Larry Elison too.
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Oh please, its still the super-happy ending. I mean, his son is "re-born" through his newly-pregnant wife. As for the pre-cogs, isolation is the only way for them to by happy as I assume contact with others provokes their visions.
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I'm sorry, but you obviously don't have children. One child does not "replace" another, how insensitive can you be, I mean honestly.
The precogs get to live out as normal a life as possible for them, they are still burdened with their unique ability, and still effectively imprisoned by that and the state that once exploited them for it.
Murder eventually returned, and all the rest of societies ills continued unabated.
Just because the end of the movie showed a few "happy" images doesn't mean it had a happy ending, I mean I know you can read and write, so use your brain!
Nuh Unh...
FRODO LIVES!
WOW! A whole six months without a terrorist attack! That must be some kind of a reccord. Seriously though, you can agree or disagree with the administration's pollicies, it's really no sweat off my back, but don't give them credit for doing the ordinary.
As a person who has worked in a technical roll for a market research company, and as a telesales agent (the job sucks, and screw alla y'all who think I'm evil because I worked for a telemarketer and could have gone to flip burgers at McDicks, I DID quit, and had to move back in with my parents three months later after I had spent my entire savings, due to the fact that I couldn't find a job), I can bring some ACTUAL information to this debate. I'm not personally farmiliar with the telezapper, but based on what I've read here it would be fairly successfull, if it generates the three signal tones.
Predictive dialers DO disconnect from these numbers, however many predictive dialers are also capable of telling when a answering machine picks up (tape noise in the background), when a fax or modem picks up, etc, some of these things are incredibly intelligent.
Also, telemarketers will prescreen the number lists that they purchase from outside vendors, as these lists often contain a large amount of invalid numbers, the prescreening process doesn't ring your phone, it is a process of testing weather or not the line is "live," a phone line will ring durring this process perhaps one out of one hundred times, and only once in that case.
Telemarketers are required to maintain private do-not-call lists, and filter their purchased numbers by them, this law does not apply to market researchers (people not trying to sell anything), there is a NATIONAL do-not-call list to which you can add your name by talking to your local post office.
In other tid-bits of legal information on telemarketers/teleresearch, they may not legally place calls before 7:00 a.m. or after 9:00 p.m. (in the US). It is illigal to send an unsolicited fax, or place an unsolicited call to a cell phone, though a company can usually get away with calling a cell phone if they can make a good case that they didn't know it was a cell phone and when they found out they disconnected promptly if there was a disconnect request (some areas do have mixed cell/land-line exchanges, therefore if you live in one of these areas you can expect to recieve telemarketing calls on your phone).
Interestingly enough you can already do everything that this machine does, and for considerably less than the 30k price tag. Go down to your local kinkos (or any other large scale copy shop for that matter) with a PDF file of the book you want to print, or better yet send it in over the web. As long as you have copyright access to the matterials contained within they will be more than happy to Print, Cut and Bind a professional looking book for you. True not ALL kinkos (or other copy shops), have the facilities to bind your book so it looks like a paperback, but many do.
In fact this is the area where you are most likely to see these machines first, not your local book store, or small publisher. The reason is speed, at "a few minutes" per book these machines are not nearly fast enough to be used in the publishing industry, and they will most likely require a signifigant ammount of training to run. When was the last time you trusted your local book store register jock to make you latte correctly? Copy shop employees operate this type of machinery on a regular basis, so training costs would be lowered, and heck, copy shops are where this type of thing is most in demand (you can tell because that's where it happens now).
Disclaimer, I do work at Kinko's, but this isn't an ad or a Troll.
I have been blessed with many wonderfull teachers, both in out out of the classroom, from my 12th grade teacher, who pushed everyone in my class so hard that we all thought college was a joke, to College professors who understood that I knew how to learn and that I would put most of my class to shame if they just let me do what interested me. I've only had one bad teacher, and she was just to tired to teach any more, but thirty or more years of teaching high school will do that to anyone.
But I had to teachers who stand out above the rest. By the time I entered fourth grade I hadn't spent a single day of my life in "normal" school, and I didn't plan to start then. I had been enrolled in a program in which kindergardeners through fourth graders all shared a classroom and teacher, and I was entering a program where not only did fourth through eigth graders share a classroom and teacher, but each student was allowed to set their own educational goals and map out their own schedual for the week. The day I started fourth grade was the day I met Carol. She was one of the founders of the program I was enrolled in, and of all the "Adults" I ever met she was the most alive. Carol was, I think, one of the most critical, harsh teachers I have ever had. She was tough, but she never punished anyone out of turn, and the punishment was never out of proportion with the wrong.
All that said though, Carol let you set your own pace, and she let you challenge your self. Not only that, but she was genuinly happy for you when you did something extra-ordinary. I knew her durring four of the most important years of my life, though she wasn't officially my teacher untill eigth grade. I acceled in eigth grade, I read more, and learned more about math, than I think I have since, I pushed myself and she helped, she was always there when I needed a hand, or had a question, and she tought me that I had to fight through bad days, and not just give up. Durring eigth grade, under carols supervision, not only did I complete all of the eigth grade math, but also all of the nineth grade math. I learned to read hundreds of pages in an afternoon, and I learned to learn things without the organizational and memorizational aids that help most people, but had always slowed me down. Carol recognized that I had the potential to be not only a good learner, but a great one, and she brought that out in me, I owe her a debt so great that I will never be able to repay it. So every day I do all I can to make her prowd of me.
In ninth grade I encountered the second great teacher of my life, one who had the same first name as me, and one who had just started teaching the year before. Sam wasn't a big man, but he had a huge personality and he just radiated energy. To this day I still remember the tenis ball that he always seemed to have with him, and how it would never stop moving from his hand, to the wall, and the floor, then back into his hand. One day after class Sam came up to me and told me that he knew I could do better in class, and that I only seemed to be doing what was needed to pass his class. So I told him the truth. I told my teacher that he wasn't challenging me, I told him that he was in fact boring the shit out of me. He told me he could fix that.
So, for the rest of the year I spent most of my time wishing that I had never said those things to my teacher, because not only was I doing the same work as the other freshmen, but I was also doing the work that was being assigned to his senior honors students. Sam pushed me, but he also let me know that I could stop at any time, and I did take some breaks, around the time of mid terms, and finals, I took some breaks. But he would always bring me back to those books, that were... perfect for me. It was the first time, that I had ever really been challenged by not only the language and words of literature, but also by the ideas and the intelligence conveyed by it. I will always remember sitting in Sams classroom with the high outside windows on the far wall, reading The Cavern, by Socrates, and having my whole world change around me.
I have heard that Sam went on to get his masters, or doctorate, and I have no doubt that he is now teaching very lucky students at a college somewhere. I hope that he is still challenging those students to enlarge their minds, and their perceptions of the world, like he challenged me. Sam, you tought me how to live, and I will never forget you, or your tenis ball.
Okay... You are oversimplifying a rather interesting point about the modern consumption of meat. What those 'health gurus' actually say is that eating the AMOUNT and type of meat that we americans generally do (factory farm raised, chemically treated), is bad for us in the long term. However eating better meat less frequently actually has health benefits, mainly derived from the proteans et. al. that are the reasons why meat tastes so yummy. Basically they say that like almost everything else about modern american society, its okay to eat meat in moderation (moderation being a much lower level than 'normal'), however not to excess. Like drinking red wine, eating prunes, etc.
There are of course health benefits to a well thought out, well prepaired vegetarian life style as well. And you avoid the 'suffering' of animals, by deciding to kill plants most of which have a far more developed nervous system.
On a personal note, I have eaten several animals that I have seen born and raised, then killed. I can categorically say that they did not suffer.
Recognition does not put food on the table. And everyone's got to eat.
Think before you speak.
So if someone created, say, a bag that allowed people to carry conceled weapons into secure areas, such as airports, the creator of the product would not be somehow responsible for the use of the product?
Actually, legally speaking, no they would not. Just because you make a product does not mean that you must ensure that everyone who uses your product uses it in the manner intended. You might want to include some warnings or something, but you are not legally responsible for their actions while using your product.
Think about it this way, if someone were to kill another person using a spoon, would the maker of that spoon be responsible for the killing?
Thats an extreme example, but it points out how far something like this goes.
P.S. People already manufacture guns that I could walk into almost any airport in the world with. Think High temerature/preassure ceramics, caseless ammo, and plastic bullets.
After listening to Lars' comments RE copyrighted works et. al. I am reminded of what we were hearing a couple of months ago about OpenSource software. He seemed to be holding on very tightly to the idea that you can't make money producing something which is Free (as in beer).
However in many cases this has proven just not to be true. Coders in the software industry (anologous to Musicians) are now getting payed for producing code that is totally free, and which in theory their companies wouldn't make a dime from (but they somehow do). The software industry, one that has had to deal with non-degrading copies for all of its life has figured out that sometimes its better not to charge for a product. Its also interesting to note that there are several companies that make money by selling free products (linux distributers spring to mind, selling CD's and service contracts for their Free versions of the OS).
In short the recording industry, the RIAA in particular, needs to take a long hard look at alternative revanue models, and accept the fact that the world is changing into a place where information DOES long to be free.
Pendragn
And most of the stuff Jon talks about as being important dates all the way back to a little ol' book called Brave New World. Maybe Jon's heard of it?
heh, I live within 10 minutes of one of IBM's major plants and the stuff that they keep under wraps for years on end is scarry. I have to let you in on a secret though, they want to release all the really cool stuff they have, they just can't, due to good ol' Uncle Sammy. IBM is extremely fearfull of antitrust cases, and they are so far ahead of the current SOTA (State Of The Art), that they would end up being the only hardware company of any worth out there if they released/utlilized all of the tech that they keep under wraps.
I'm not being an IBM shill here, I'm just talking about what I know based on my visits to the plant and talking with engeneers there.
While on the topic of IRC programs I'd like to take a seccond to eulogize my favorite IRC client, also OS/2 based. OpenChat how I'll miss you and your scriptable GUI.
Fortunatly that and the WPS are the only two programs that were developed on OS/2 that were/are the best in class (IMO), PMMail and PMView have both been ported to (eww) windows, and hopefully we'll be able to talk the dev's into porting them to Linux RSN.
Alas OS/2 is semi-officially dead, I'll probably keep it alive on my box if only to see if Odin and Everblue get finished (which would make OS/2 usefull again, more usefull than windows).
hmm, the best was to test idealism is to test it.
Let's find out, anybody got a list of CC#s? (just curious, a simple yes or no will do....)
No, but I could by tommorw, seeing as how I work for a major un-named retail outlet that has a huge data base of card numbers, not to mention the number of people who just hand me their CC's every day.
not that I'd ever do anything with the numbers (including posting them on /. as a test).
You know you have a point. This is almost exatly the box I would want (and built using off the shelf components), as far as I'm concerned there are only three problems with the thing. 1) No 5 1/4" external bay (so I couldn't hook up a CD or DVD-rom drive). 2) Internal IDE connector Disabled (it would make life just a little easier if I didn't have to supply an old ISA IDE card). 3) No Network card (I use a cable modem, and I'd rather not use up the PCI slot with a network card).
With a slightly differant case, and an internal IDE card and modem this could be the worlds best DVD player (assuming of course there was commercial grade DVD software for linux). It'd do full internet (not just web surfing), DVD play back, MP3 play back, and general computing, all for about $400 (you'd have to include the price for a cheep hard drive and a DVD-rom/decoder board). All in all I can't see why they just didn't go that route instead of trying to immitated the failed web TV.
Remember that where ever you go, whatever you do, the penquin is watching.
I THINK that lotus is planning on releasing a version of Notes server for linux, that could be a replacement, though not a drop in replacement. Other than that I'd suggest an IMAP server and replicating Exchanges other features (I don't use exchange, so I don't know all of them) such as Calendering and Colaboration and others with Web based apps (using php and mySQL and such).
What bothers me though is that this software really seems to be desinged to Identify dangerous thought, and that scares me far more than any "geek profiling" program (software or otherwise) would. This comes dangerously close to policing people for things that they haven't done and have no intention of ever doing, and weather your a geek or a jock or a prep, or a socialite, or a Streight-A student without much time for socilising outside of other Streight-A students, that should scare you.
There's another thing that bothers me as well, and that is that this software is desinged to warn of possible "Dangerous" behaviour. Who the fuck decides whats dangerous. Some of Katz's Ideas of danger scare the hell out of me, and I don't think that I trust many other people to define danger for me. And thats the crux of my objection, "Danger" is a word like "Indecent," poorly defined, and variable.
Another issue that troubles me is one that Katz pointed out, there has been a steady decline in violence over the last decade, not only among youth, but among almost every sector of American society. Yet all this attention, is being payed to the so called "youth violence epidemic." This is the most clear case of the government and the media feeding off of the publics fears and steriotypes to turn a profit and crack down on more of people's essential freedoms. I know its been said time and time again, but if we allow to this to happen who know where it could lead. If this happening in High school doesn't scare you just think that you may have to submit to a mental screening test like this the next time you take an interview at one of those nice high paying silicon vally jobs that everyone on slashdot but myself seems to have. Thought profiling on a widespread level is scary man.