Cygnus doesn't allow redistribution of their cygwin dll's, and they're owned by RedHat!:)
Their marketing docs say that cygwin is GPL, but in reality that license is only for certain groups, commercial companies still need to pay distribution royalties...
You may want to reread the rant, chances are your ISP is just leasing from someone else, if one of the backbones decides to block a section of the internet it can affect alot more traffic than just your ISP...
> Oddly enough, '91 was about when I was a graduate teaching
> assistant in the Beginning Programming Lab... You weren't at Miss. State, were you?
:) Nope University of Texas, funny story about the non-working program. I was always amazed as many of the programs were fairly trivial, and the cheating probably took longer than actually writing the code...
I actually saw people with printouts of other people's code, highlighting variable names so they wouldn't forget to change them when they turned the program in...:(
Back in '91 when I was in school, viruses were fairly new so whenever someone couldn't get a project done it would somehow be eaten by a virus.
It's not all that different in the "real world", where when interviewing someone with 10 years of perl on their resume can't even write a simple loop. "I usually just change other people's code" is a common excuse...
The EFF and other's voiced these kinds of concerns when the challenge was first issued and asked people not to participate. "When you shake hands with the devil, the devil don't change"...:)
Then someone needs to tell Sun, because java has the same bug. Try putting all your constants in an interface, then recompile. You will find that.java files that use those constants do not recompile and will have the old values when run.
He's probably refering to "include"ing one.jsp file in another. If the.jsp file being included is modified the.jsp file doing the include won't automatically recompile and will use the old code.
It's documented, but hey it's much easier to complain about a bug than to read the docs, right...:)
I've never understood how the license for cygwin works. On your website it mentions GPL, but I was told it is only GPL to certain people how exactly does that work?
(Note this isn't a question about having to GPL code that would link against cygwin, but rather that companies cannot distribute cygwin at all without paying license fees)
Didn't see it mentioned, but if the Jolitz's would have been more open about patches *AND* AT&T wouldn't have sued BSDI, there is a very good chance that Linux would have never taken off like it did...
I don't think that's a good analogy. Amazon has been reported to not have a ton of extra cash right now. They'll have to decide whether they want to put some serious bucks into fighting this. If they go bankrupt trying to fight for this silly patent or if they give up on the patent those are both Good Things(TM)...:)
If Amazon loses this fight and Rambus loses their fight, it might make some people think twice about trying to use the patent system as a source of income... (I know I'm dreaming)
Sounds like DirecTV feels the same way, instead of doing things the "normal" way, ie suing and lots of it, they instead just made it much harder for people to steal it.
I had a couple issues not show up, but after sending 3-4 e-mails they eventually sent me all the issues I was asking for (they even sent two copies of the same issue one time:)
Keep bugging them and you'll eventually get your copy!
I really hope it doesn't go away, it is by far one of my favorite mags to read, and one of the few magazines I've found that still have lots of programming examples.
For better or worse I learned alot about programming by typing in Basic programs into my c64 reading Compute's Gazette and playing with that code. TPJ is the same way, lots of articles that are all about cool ways to code and all the code is in the issue!
Back in '92 (before Doom was out and before the web was popular) I worked on a programming contest where we wrote a video game. Garriot was the speaker at the actual contest and a graduate student who was heavy into MUDS asked Garriot, "why don't you take these MUD back ends and put some really cool graphics on them."
Garriots response was that he didn't think there would be a market for networked games (he didn't think that gamers would be willing to invest in networking equipment for games:)
I'm not a Democrat or Republican, but if you want to leave you brain at the door and blindly believe that everything the democrats say and do is perfect be my guest.
I would ask Vincent Cerf, but I don't actually know him, do you have a link so I can read this article for myself?
Funding for schools and libraries is great, but it's not "creating the internet". By your analogy if someone were to fly/bus 100,000 children to the Empire State Building so they could look down from the top, that person would get credit for creating the Empire State Building...:)
I also look at all the negative things that has happened to the internet while he was Vice President, Clipper chip, communications decency act, DMCA, why would someone who "created" the internet allow so much harm come to his creation?
The actual quote is "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
Considering much of the foundation of the internet was funded while Gore was still in college I'm not sure how you can say he was "the main chap" in Congress. So if he didn't fund it, and he obviously didn't help any of the students or industry people who really set it up, and the super computers he got funding for obviously aren't the internet, so what exactly did he do?
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linking doesn't have anything to do with it, even if you use their precompiled binaries you still have to pay royalties...
Cygnus doesn't allow redistribution of their cygwin dll's, and they're owned by RedHat! :)
Their marketing docs say that cygwin is GPL, but in reality that license is only for certain groups, commercial companies still need to pay distribution royalties...
You may want to reread the rant, chances are your ISP is just leasing from someone else, if one of the backbones decides to block a section of the internet it can affect alot more traffic than just your ISP...
> Oddly enough, '91 was about when I was a graduate teaching
:) Nope University of Texas, funny story about the non-working program. I was always amazed as many of the programs were fairly trivial, and the cheating probably took longer than actually writing the code...
> assistant in the Beginning Programming Lab... You weren't at Miss. State, were you?
I actually saw people with printouts of other people's code, highlighting variable names so they wouldn't forget to change them when they turned the program in... :(
Back in '91 when I was in school, viruses were fairly new so whenever someone couldn't get a project done it would somehow be eaten by a virus.
It's not all that different in the "real world", where when interviewing someone with 10 years of perl on their resume can't even write a simple loop. "I usually just change other people's code" is a common excuse...
That's why I mentioned it (this is Jim... :) I remember we had to compile it as the intepreted version ran out of stack space...
LISP is also great for working with large numbers... :)
The EFF and other's voiced these kinds of concerns when the challenge was first issued and asked people not to participate. "When you shake hands with the devil, the devil don't change"... :)
Is there any code that was copied or just a header file?
Then someone needs to tell Sun, because java has the same bug. Try putting all your constants in an interface, then recompile. You will find that .java files that use those constants do not recompile and will have the old values when run.
He's probably refering to "include"ing one .jsp file in another. If the .jsp file being included is modified the .jsp file doing the include won't automatically recompile and will use the old code.
:)
It's documented, but hey it's much easier to complain about a bug than to read the docs, right...
I've never understood how the license for cygwin works. On your website it mentions GPL, but I was told it is only GPL to certain people how exactly does that work?
(Note this isn't a question about having to GPL code that would link against cygwin, but rather that companies cannot distribute cygwin at all without paying license fees)
Didn't see it mentioned, but if the Jolitz's would have been more open about patches *AND* AT&T wouldn't have sued BSDI, there is a very good chance that Linux would have never taken off like it did...
I don't think that's a good analogy. Amazon has been reported to not have a ton of extra cash right now. They'll have to decide whether they want to put some serious bucks into fighting this. If they go bankrupt trying to fight for this silly patent or if they give up on the patent those are both Good Things(TM)... :)
If Amazon loses this fight and Rambus loses their fight, it might make some people think twice about trying to use the patent system as a source of income... (I know I'm dreaming)
you got two hits...
Sounds like DirecTV feels the same way, instead of doing things the "normal" way, ie suing and lots of it, they instead just made it much harder for people to steal it.
I hope they saved a bunch of money!
I had a couple issues not show up, but after sending 3-4 e-mails they eventually sent me all the issues I was asking for (they even sent two copies of the same issue one time :)
Keep bugging them and you'll eventually get your copy!
I really hope it doesn't go away, it is by far one of my favorite mags to read, and one of the few magazines I've found that still have lots of programming examples.
For better or worse I learned alot about programming by typing in Basic programs into my c64 reading Compute's Gazette and playing with that code. TPJ is the same way, lots of articles that are all about cool ways to code and all the code is in the issue!
It's not on video tape, but it was during a question answer in front of a bunch of people.
:)
I still have his business card if that would help...
Back in '92 (before Doom was out and before the web was popular) I worked on a programming contest where we wrote a video game. Garriot was the speaker at the actual contest and a graduate student who was heavy into MUDS asked Garriot, "why don't you take these MUD back ends and put some really cool graphics on them."
:)
Garriots response was that he didn't think there would be a market for networked games (he didn't think that gamers would be willing to invest in networking equipment for games
In Austin when an ISP rebrands DSL Southwestern Bell gets $30 of the $40 charged. Sounds like 75% to me... :)
"Republican ass-kisser", wow that really hurt.
I'm not a Democrat or Republican, but if you want to leave you brain at the door and blindly believe that everything the democrats say and do is perfect be my guest.
I would ask Vincent Cerf, but I don't actually know him, do you have a link so I can read this article for myself?
Funding for schools and libraries is great, but it's not "creating the internet". By your analogy if someone were to fly/bus 100,000 children to the Empire State Building so they could look down from the top, that person would get credit for creating the Empire State Building... :)
I also look at all the negative things that has happened to the internet while he was Vice President, Clipper chip, communications decency act, DMCA, why would someone who "created" the internet allow so much harm come to his creation?
The actual quote is "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."
Considering much of the foundation of the internet was funded while Gore was still in college I'm not sure how you can say he was "the main chap" in Congress. So if he didn't fund it, and he obviously didn't help any of the students or industry people who really set it up, and the super computers he got funding for obviously aren't the internet, so what exactly did he do?
If they don't win a championship in the next couple of years the rumors will start:
"They are cursed for taking the Bible off the internet and will never win again!"