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The folks over at SatireWire have got a pretty amusing article regarding Al Gore's newest fund raising effort. The fund raising in politics these days - sheesh. Updated 6:00 GMT by timothy: AntiNorm writes: "As of 9/17 0538 GMT, the auction is no longer valid." Seems like all the good auctions get pulled.
You mean the French army doesn't get "rooted"? I thought that's why they lost all the time...
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Hmmm even with all of Algores biggest supporters, he's worthless.
Say what you will, but I bet Al Gore can spell Buddhist, monks, andChinese.
Nice things are nicer than nasty ones.
I had to highest bid I always wanted to own the internet I can be like some kind of god or computer guy but it is all ruin for me going to back to work now :(
Well, the most technically astute president in the last several decades (and perhaps ever) was Jimmy Carter, who was a nuclear engineer. He was also the last man who had a credible claim to being a "Washington outsider," and one of the most honest men who has ever occupied the White House. And he was a mediocre president, at best.
Thus, I'm not necessarily faulting Gore -- he at least knew who to listen to, whether he himself was technically savvy or not. So if I were voting just on the basis of who would most likely be net-friendly (and not just follow corporate interests and the wishes of the national security apparatus), I'd give him the nod. But it's real hard to get much enthusiasm over either of the major candidates.
Flamebait???
The moderators must be stoned today. This one was even better than Trent Lott and the paperclip.
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I wish the politicians would just grow up!
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Guess owning the net does have its downsides.
If you call prosperity decay, I'll grant you one point.
Or the Greens or the Reform party. Funny how most Americans forget this. Must be a conspiracy or something.
And there are no hotheads on /. :)
Hear, hear! There are few things in life that do not deserve to have a bit of poking at, and politics and the people surrounding them are, by far, the least of these. Glad to know you're sane, Zordak. :) That makes one...
It ain't done yet, it seems to me.
Some people are still taking the initiative in its continued creation.
Thanks to Al for his contributions in Congress in the eighties and nineties. And thanks to some of you out there who are taking the initiative in other spheres now! - Steve
If we just follow the logical pronounciation:
It's called a router, because it provides the route for packets from A to B. I can't think of what the row-te from A to B is supposed to be!
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Thanks! For a moment there I thought that I'd slipped into a parallel universe where corny jokes weren't appreciated. But, of course, we all know that THAT isn't true. ;) *braces for thrown produce*
As someone who sweated bricks bringing my employer, a community college, onto the Internet in 1993, I knew first hand that it takes a lot more to bring Internet access to students than just bringing it to the front door, including internal wiring, computer purchases, and the biggest part, local desktop computer management.
So when the initiative to wire up every classroom came down, I wondered if they'd also hire the army of techs to take care of it all.
Of course, they didn't.
Instead, locally, we have some poor underpaid state sod who runs around to a dozen or so schools under his watch and re-ghosts the labs and goes away, which makes the computers usable for about half a day until various students, both intentional and accidental, re-trash the install so the computers sit unused again until the poor sod gets back there in a few weeks.
Yeah, there are better ways to do it. We install NT on our classroom desktops with strict ACLs and policies to prevent local changes as much as possible. Of course, NT by design is pretty braindead in this area so you have to have system directories with change access to everyone else it won't work at all (imagine /bin as 1777) so problems do happen, but not as often.
But that's the point, these schools everywhere don't have the resources to develop better solutions to net use in the classroom, so they rely on limited techs doing the impossible while the computers sit unusable for most of the time.
And don't get me started about how the teachers themselves often never got the training to use it.
In a lot of poorer areas, their school's Internet connection is a few PCs in the library and that's it.
But hey, literally it may be true. Every school has Internet access. So we can call it a "success" I guess... :-(
One of my professors said she has a colleague with a big picture of Gore on his office wall. The colleague said that Al Gore stopped by his office (he does distributed computer) in 1994 and spent an hour in there asking questions. I had never heard of the Internet and didn't know the slightest thing about distributed computing at that point, so Gore's at least got some genuine interest in computers and networks.
In 1990, Al Gore had already been in Congress for 14 years...
I suspect what he was referring to was his introduction of the Supercomputer Network Act of 1986 which provided funding to Universities to sponsor computer development.
I don't think Al Gore was trying to take credit for something he didn't do. I think you are not giving enough credit to the people who put forth the funding for what amounted to a good idea.
Good ideas are a dime a dozen... The key is convincing others the idea is good, and getting someone to help bankroll the development.
And that's all Al Gore said was that he recognized it as a good idea long before other politicians did. Basically saying he's more progressive than the other old codgers.
And that's saying a lot for a Congress where only about 30% of them even know how to use a web browser today.
"[F]irst he called me a rat and now he's paid someone to make fun of me for discovering the Internet...boo...fuckin'...hooo!!!" - Al Gore
The saddest part of this whole situation is that one of these two idiots in just over three months will be the most powerful man in the world. Forget fathom, plague, or nuclear holocaust....THAT scares the livin' **SHIT** out of me!!!
-J
It's MY-way or the HIGH-way!!! - my father
The internet isn't, and never was intended to be the 'information superhighway' that Gore and others talked about. the IS was supposed to be a way that you could get movies and shit from AT&T. It was always about central, corporate, controlled BS. The same crap as on telivison, but more of it. "Ohh... you could rewind pay-per-view movies, you can't do that with regular cable..."
The internet has been around since the 1960s, and it has always been peer-to-peer. and its been around a lot longer then Gore's tenure in congress. The 'net is decentralized access for everyone, not just the giant media corporations.
That dosn't mean gore didn't try hard to mold the 'net into the IS after everyone got hooked up. Gore pushed hard for the CDA and encryption restriction. Aperantly he didn't really understand what the net was or how it worked. As for wireing up the fediral government? well, thats good I suppose, but accessing government documents isn't really something that lots of people do.
His exact quote was "During my tenure in congress, I took the initiative in creating the internet"
And on the other side, we have 'the dubya', gees, whats the point of getting out of bed this november....
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Try again. Have a look at RFC675. Read the title carefully. Notice the date? December 1974. AFAIK that's the first known occurrence of the word "Internet".
In September 1981, RFCs 791, 792 and 793 appeared, defining IP, ICMP and TCP (note the "I" in "IP") in the final version which is still theirs today (minor options and exceptions nonwithstanding).
There is nothing wrong with having been using the Internet for nearly ten years in 1990.
In fact, even though the word hadn't appeared yet, the "official birthday" of the Internet is generally taken to be April 7, 1969, the day of publication of the very first RFC by Steve Crocker. See "Thirty years of RFCs" for more historical considerations, and also the the Internet timeline.
So now he not only "created" it, but now he owns (0wnZ) it too? All he did was vote for something in Congress. Big deal. Many other Congressmen did as well, but you don't see them plastering it all over the place.
We're already living under fascist electronic surveillance. We managed to do that all on our own too. No help needed from the Germans for that one thank you very much!
Yay UK politics. We have three major parties, and they all tell the same lies, walk the same walk. It's boring. Why can't someone just stand up and tell the truth: "You want better services? Better Policing, a better NHS, better education and a better life? Then we need to raise taxes. Will you seriously miss a 1 pound Income Tax rise? One pound a week? Not much is it...". Now that would be refreshing.
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these people (at 800-be-a-geek) get REALLY pissed if you call them up and ask them about their phone number. I spoke with tonya, who was somewhat mean. I am never going to be a geek again.
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I would hesitate to say that Gore is a "geek candidate" -- better than Bush, maybe, but still not great. His running mate, Joe Lieberman, was among the first to push for content standards on violent video games, and is very much in favor of censorware in schools, libraries, etc. This may improve their chances with Middle America, where parents want to make sure that their kids aren't exposed to this material, but those views sure don't sit well with most geeks I see.
It would take a LOT of balls for a candidate to get up on some major TV talk show and say "I'm opposed to filtering the Internet -- let the parents monitor their children themselves." Not even a major candidate like Gore could do that and still have a lead in a tight race like this.
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I thought it was funny when Gore was on Letterman the other night and they were running through a top ten Slogans for the Gore/Leibermann campaign that were discarded. One of them was something like:
"5. I invented the internet, and I can take it away. Think about it."
Gore was a pretty good sport.
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
Judging by the number of politicians selling out, I'd say its fairly low. High supply, comparatively low demand, all that economics stuff. But they are in positions of power, and they do have to get re-elected, so that must raise it some... I'd say that stock options would do just fine. ^_^
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Sorry, you're wrong. You're conflating two very different things. There were many physical networks, including ARPANET, CSNET, NFSNET, and many other smaller ones. But the logical network has been called the internet since the early 1970's. The point of the term internet is that it's a network of networks. The various physical networks were tied together with common protocols (IP, etc.) to form the internet.
In the late '80s the military insisted on cracking down on "unofficial use." Many schools and contractors wound up having to justify their access, and came up short. Efforts to start member-supported networks, such as CSNET, got a lukewarm reception since they (1) cost too much (no more 100% government subsidy) and (2) did too little (email and limited file transfer only). It took an act of congress to get these folks hooked up again: the ARPANET was split into the MILNET and NSFNET (NSF == National Science Foundation), with the latter offering subsidized access to any academic institution that wanted it and paid its share. And it was after this split that users starting refering to it as just "The Internet" (though from time to time I heard ARPANET referred to as "The ARPA Internet" back in the '80s).
Guess who wrote the bill that funded NSFNET? Or the National Supercomputing Initiative which built its backbone? Or the one somehwat later that lifted restrictions on commercial use? Yup, Smilin' Al (or, rather, one of his staffers wrote the bill and he sponsored it).
When you look at it from a technical perspective, saying that he "created" the Internet is a clear absurdity. But from a legislative and public policy perspective, it's hardly an exaggeration. I'm not convinced that Al "gets" the Internet any more than W does. But he did manage to listen to someone on his staff who "got" it. (And I've been racking my brain to remember the guy's name--I met him briefly while I was working at The RAND Corporation.) It's too bad that so few technophiles go to work as congressional staffers; it leaves me with some doubts as to whether Gore wasn't just "lucky" to be involved with the Internet.
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What he was talking about was how he, in 1990, before 99% of Slashdot readers even knew about the Internet [...]
I guess I'm in the other 1% then... I was using the net (when it was still called the Arpanet) back in '82 using a 2400bps acoustic coupler. None of this graphical WWW shit back then!
I don't really know why everybody continues to make fun of Gore just because of that one stupid sentence.
Let me guess, you are one of the people who had plenty of fun and jokes at Dan Quayle's expense for the same kind of thing, right? Personally, I think off all the incredibly stupid things Gore has said it's supprising that this one is what is most applied to him.
"A zebra does not change its spots." - Al Gore, attacking President George Bush in 1992.
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The aution is funny, deal with it.
Gore's inability to grasp technical issues or his misreprentation of them to further his own ends is not as funny. He's supported restrictions on crypto exports, wants to shut down oil drilling, and favors coal burning. A dude with a poly sci undergrad and a law degree sets himself up for such attacks when he attempts to publish works way outside his field. "Earth in the Balance" is a very scary read indeed. It was published a while back and parts of it might sound stupid now, so don't expect open source Al to put it on the web anytime soon.
Friends don't help friends install M$ junk.
It's funny to think that the white house has some control over or can take credit for the economy. All they did was support or veto budgets that republician controlled congress wrote and passed. Give credit where credit is due. The biggest thing Clinton did to help the economy was to support Greenspan (who the evil Regan appointed)
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George W. wishes he could auction off the last two months on eBay...
These comments and opinions are mine and mine alone, although they shouldn't be.
actually I saw slashdot karma for sale somewhere Im sure.
Hmmm, what kind of idiot would it take to buy something from someone who isn't really Al Gore?
Oh. Oops - I forgot the calibar of people on the net...
Another story for e-crime pundits I guess...
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Since one year, I have heared many comments about Al Gore claiming Internet paternity. Can someone point me to a document explaining why ?
I really loooooooove reading liberals defending Clinton.
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The terms "internet" and "internetworking" have existed from the beginning as names for the technology. But until the MILNET split, no one called the network which used those technologies "The Internet." It was "The ARPANET."
I'm sick of this joke. It was funny for a while, but it's been beaten beyond death. It's taken on a second life as a piece of character assasination. Politics turns jokes into political slogans that are repeated just as mindlessly. It's all this 'bzz bzz' in your ear that hypnotically lulls you out of your senses until you become a malleable voting zombie.
Take off your weisenheimer hat for a moment and try to be fair while considering this.
Marc Andreeson created the Mosaic browser under a government grant to support high performance computing. The grant program was created by legislation authored by Al Gore. Maybe Andreeson would have got alternate funding, or maybe he'd have worked on something else. But Mosaic is clearly a watershed event; Gore didn't write it, but without Gore it might not have been written.
Do a little research:
1986 -- sponsored Supercomputer Network Act (remember back when all the Internet goodies used to come out of NCSA?), and Supercomputer Network Study Act.
1988 -- sponsored the National High Performance Computing Act (which funded Andreeson's work).
1992 -- sponsored the Information Infrastructure and Technology Act
1996 -- worked to support deregulation allowing cable companies to sell Internt service.
I'd call this a pretty good record for a young senator with no personal technical background. It's all the more remarkable in that I doubt very much the good folk back home in Tennesee were clamoring to have the nation's universities hooked up over high speed WANS.
Now, what exactly did Al say about all this? That he "took initiative on creating the Internet." Is there hyperbole here -- sure. It makes it sound like that when he took part in supporting research initiatives and policy changes he knew exactly what it would all turn into. The emphasis on supercomputers shows he was probably off the mark -- aiming to connect researchers to large computing utilities the way people are connected to large power plants.
The fact is nobody knew this computer networking thing would be the driving force in the new economy.
That the thing about technology -- sometimes the seed has to be planted even when you don't know what it's going to grow into. This is where you need government involvement in technology -- to do things which ought to be done but whose commercial fruits are unpredictable.
Now, there's a lot of Al Gore's current positions that make me uncomfortable. The V-chip thing seems quixotic to me. Did you ever see a piece of home technology the parents could work but the kids couldn't? Kids'll be blackmailing adults so they can watch "Survivor". Also, when people start getting up on a soap box about protecting children on the Internet I get a rash. Hint to parents: put the computer in a public place and make it clear there is NO privacy to be expected on the Internet.
So, there are legitimate reasons to be a bit leery of Gore, just like any body who has the particular skills to get himself into the position where he very well might become president.
But, if you are making your evaluation of one of the leading contenders for presidency of the United States on the basis of the "Father of the Internet" joke, you're a joke yourself -- as a citizen.
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It started in Madison, Wisconsin, where it is still available. Then it expanded out to Boulder, CO, and soon Milwaukee, WI, Chicago, and Champaign-Urbana, IL. Now it is lots of places, including of course the Internet. Great idea. I had no idea it was in Canada though.
while we're being nasty, it is fully possible that ronnie was telling the truth about not recalling. He was getting a little fuzzy in the cognitive department towards the end.
Now the fact that people knew this and were happy with him as a president... not _that_ speaks volumes.
And these achievements would be what? Reinventing the government? The internet? The economy?
How about none of the above.
The government has grown since he and Bill have been in office, the only part that has been "shrunk" is the military.
He didn't have jack to do with the internet.
The economy growth that we were enjoying is due to Ronny and the Republican congress. Read your economics texts and pay attention to how long it takes for top level inputs to actually affect the economy.
We have suffered through the most corrupt administration in the last 100 years.
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So, how much did Tipper go for?
Considering I'm not even done with my bachelor's degree yet, I doubt very much that I was your freshment English teacher.
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OTOH, there was that entire year I can't remember due to too many drugs...
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But when was the last time you heard of a Democrat having to leave office over a scandal?
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Good point. It demonstrates just how morally corrupt they are.
BTW--I'm not saying the Republicans don't have their fair share of morally corrput members either. If it were up to me, I'd trash the whole damn morally corrupt government and start over.
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Don't you guys get it... It's a joke!!! Someone is trying to auction off the internet and they just made up the story about Al Gore. Send the story to Segfault.
I though
Although it was a good joke...
Nope, we're just saying Bush has some nose candy problems.
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the IP rights to the paper clip soon? :)
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Politicians are always quick to grab the credit for things that weren't their doing; that's what makes them politicians. So of course Al Gore is the father of the internet (or whatever). But even if that isn't really true, we still owe him a debt of gratitude for his advances to computer science. After all, he did invent the Al-Gore-ithm too, right? :-P
You really should read Bill Bryson's The Mother Tongue: English and How it Got That Way before you go off and publicly get your knickers in a twist about American versus British pronunciations of English. The "purity" of many of these Britishisms is somewhat suspect, to say the least.
They can't auction off the internet. It's on my hard drive. There's a little icon on my desktop that says so.
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Once (as the story goes), and I'm not sure how, but I accidentally clicked on something and I got a message saying "Are you sure you want to delete The Internet?" Boy, was I scared. I know a lot of work went into that thing. But I guess if I deleted it, we could all go home.
Tweet, tweet.
it seems that this is not GPL'd. I have a /lib/modules/2.2.16/net/algore.o
but no /usr/src/linux-2.2.16/drivers/net/algore.c
Is algore.o a DDOS trojan kernel module? 8-)
-- open source? sounds like the real book --
I'm afraid I couldn't make head nor tail of this paragraph.
Are you really a government worker? Your studied incoherence makes me think this could be an attempt at a troll.
If you are an actual government worker and this is the best prose you can produce, well, I'd better accelerate my plans to move all my assets offshore.
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already cornered that market via his main redistribution center in Mena, AR.
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When Gore said he "took the initiative in creating the Internet", it was a miswording and political exaggeration, not an outright lie.
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Yes, that's true. The trouble is Gore exaggerates as he breathes:
1) He claimed to be a co-sponsor of the McCain/Feingold campaign finance reform bill -- but Feingold and Gore have never been in Congress at the same time. (Kernel of truth: he supported the bill)
2) He claimed to have discovered Love Canal. But his first involvement was a year after Carter declared it a federal disaster area. (Kernel of truth: he sponsored Congressional hearings on Love Canal)
3) He claimed to be the inspiration for "Love Story". (Kernel of truth: he did have contact with the creator of Love Story)
4) He claimed that as a journalist his investigations put people in prison. (Kernel of truth: someoine he investigated was convicted and fined)
5) He claimed that in Vietnam he came under fire. (Kernel of truth: As a military journalist, he did walk some patrols in downtown Saigon, and may have arived on the scene shortly after shooting had stopped)
6) He claimed to have been the initiator of the Earned Income Tax Credit, which was passed before he entered Congress. (Kernel of truth: he did support the EITC in Congress)
The question thus becomes; does Gore exaggerate deliberately or unconsciously? The first answer is very disturbing; the second would betray either a tendency to self-aggrandizement (fairly harmless, esp. for a politician) or to a lack of self-confidence (a potential problem in a crisis situation).
I think it's probably a tendency to self-aggrandizement, which really is a minor character flaw of little importance in a Presidential election. But given that I'm not voting for him anyway, I'd like everybody to think he's deliberately lying to get votes in an act of contempt for the intelligence of the American people
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No, that's his karma being rewarded.
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I said no... but I missed and it came out yes.
Yep. For a nice comparison of our two candidates, visit Billionaires for Bush (or Gore).
But I'm still voting anti-Bush.God, that would be unbelievable if it weren't so true. It seems the election has, for the most part, come down to Tweedle-dum and Tweedle-dumber (just don't ask which is which).
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"Gore played no positive role in the decisions that led to the creation of the Internet as it now exists -- that is, in the opening of the Internet to commercial traffic," said Steve Allen, vice president for communications at the conservative Progress and Freedom Foundation.
Since 1993, Gore has become one of the most prominent people in the Clinton administration on issues related to high technology. He hosts visiting businessmen and takes pride in personally announcing new technology initiatives such as Internet II funding.
He also took the lead in supporting the Clipper Chip and continued restrictions on the overseas shipments of encryption products.
High-visibility events can be prone to embarrassing slip-ups. At one recent White House event, Gore introduced Cisco Systems CEO John Chambers, who he had met with privately earlier that day.
Gore told the audience how much he valued Chambers and one of the products Cisco produced. But he mispronounced "routers" as root-ers.
geez, he is our hero!
If she floats, she's a witch.
Has anyone else here read "All Tomorrow's Parties"? (Gibson, and it's a good read if you haven't) I think this "new" economy is about as real as the change in "everything" that Laney predicted -- in that case it was nanotechnology, but instead of "changing everything" it simply disappeared into the fabric of normal life -- NOTHING CHANGED.
The "New Economy" seems similar...
In legislative context (e.g. Congress), an "initiative" is a formal step that's part of making something law, before it gets voted on by the entire body. When Gore said he "took the initiative in creating the Internet", it was a miswording and political exaggeration, not an outright lie.
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I guess whether or not it's a lie depends on what your definition of "is" is. (Oh wait, that's a different guy...
I have lots to criticize Gore about. Let's not even get started about illegal campaign contributions, selling American nuclear secrets to the Chinese, etc.
That wouldn't be news for nerds, that would be politics for hotheads.
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The United States would just like to reply to Mr. I-speak-for-the-United Kingdom, and say that most of we Americans think most of you Brits should stop letting random /. posters speak for them. We, the US, think that this 'speaking for entire countries' thing is getting out of hand, and as we're the defender of the free world, we would like you non-american countries to go back to being your usual stereotypical warm-beer drinking selves.
Thank you,
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Some apparently would have us believe that the Internet's creation was completed prior to 1980. Silly stuff. As Vint Cerf said in '93 (http://cpsr.org/cpsr/nii/vinton-cerf -testimony): "In 1982, there were about 100 computers on the ARPANET and a few score others were part of the NSF-sponsored CSNET which also used the Telenet public data network. In 1993 there are over 1.5 million of them."
So what happened between '82 and '93? Well a whole bunch of people took the initiative in a great many spheres... and in Congress no one more so than Big Al. Among his various initiatives, apparently, was a 1986 legislative effort calling for interconnection of the 5 super-computing Centers, with fiber optic technology, including the one in Illinois where Andreesen et al later developed Mosaic.
Gore's sufficiently cognizant of the Internet's history to know that no one person or group of people "invented" it. And it wasn't created at any particular time; it was the creation of many people over many years. And in Congress, the main chap was Al G., right? Or who am I forgetting?
- Steve R.
If you want to make fun of someone, at least stick with the facts. Gore never said "I invented the Internet". What he said as: "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.". Of course he didn't invent the Internet and nobody (I hope) is so stupid that they believe that Gore actually thinks he did. What he was talking about was how he, in 1990, before 99% of Slashdot readers even knew about the Internet, introduced bills that would bring "the information superhighway" to ordinary people, schools and businesses.
It's sad that instead of giving the guy some credit, you have to mock him over and over again because of a little exaggeration that happened years ago.
Geeze, what'll we believe next? That he cloned Dolly? That he single-handedly took down HAMAS with a FN P90 á la Counter-Strike? Gore is contributing to the dumbing down of American society.
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It is available up here in Calgary.. ;-)
So I'm thinking must be available in a lot of places
You can get it in Boulder, CO too.
This is great! That's the sort of thing we should be documenting, instead of beating the Internet misquote to death (which really just sounds stupid and desperate).
I'm all for keeping all politicians honest. I saw a well-documented book of lies by Reagan, with specific references to public records, published articles, dated interviews, etc. You could do something similar with all the examples you list above, on a Web page or something. I think that kind of thing is a lot more constructive than false criticism, which is itself a lie. Whenever Republicans harp on the Internet thing, or pass around so-called "Gore quotes" which are really Quayle quotes, I wonder "is this the worst they can find on him?"
> You Americans have left yourselves only a difficult choice Tweedle Dum(b) or Tweedle Dee.
Yeah, but it's not nice for foreigners to rub it in. We consider "being a dumbass" to be our most cherished, most inalienable right. It's certainly the right we exercise most often.
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Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
> It would take a LOT of balls for a candidate to get up on some major TV talk show and say "I'm opposed to filtering the Internet -- let the parents monitor their children themselves."
Yeah, that would be too close to supporting genuine family values. What the public wants is censorship under the code name of "family values". (Or "protect the children". Pick your code name on the basis of your political leanings - they both mean the same thing.)
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Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
I am not sure, but I believe the Onion is only ditributed in print form in Chicago. I am not positive on this but seeing as I am a Chicagoin and am able to get my weekly fix of The Onion while I am at work I don't need their website. On the other hand I suggest all people not capable of getting the magazine in print read their website. It is very vcery funny.
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Hmmm even with all of Algores biggest supporters, he's worthless.
>>better than Bush's flubbing of subliminalal
You can't tell me that if you were a technician working for the republicans on a television commercial, you wouldn't be tempted to throw that little jab in. I sure would.
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Does E-bay auction entire politicians? Or do they just auction votes on individual bills?
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I thought he and Clinton already sold it to Corporate America and the UN. Man, I wouldn't want that class action hanging over my head....
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It's too bad that the story is almost semi-believable. You Americans have left yourselves only a difficult choice Tweedle Dum(b) or Tweedle Dee. Good luck to all.
Not that any of this makes lying any more excusable. But lying about a private blow job isn't in the same league as Watergate or Iran-Contra.
Illegal campaign contributions, FBI files, White Water, Juanita Broderick, hmmm...I'd say clinton lied about FAR MORE than a simple blow job.
Or is this all part of that same "vast right wing conspiracy." Hmph.
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He did say those exact words on public television at one point. There is a certain Rage Against The MAchine music video which contains the video clip. Ill look further into it and see if I can point a link to donwload the music video containing the video clip.
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"Republican ass-kisser", wow that really hurt.
I'm not a Democrat or Republican, but if you want to leave you brain at the door and blindly believe that everything the democrats say and do is perfect be my guest.
I would ask Vincent Cerf, but I don't actually know him, do you have a link so I can read this article for myself?
I don't really know why everybody continues to make fun of Gore just because of that one stupid sentence.
I mean, it was just a slip of the tongue, and everybody talks shit once in a while.
And Gore really did a lot to poromote the net and hi-tech in general and to make joe public aware of the net
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>The Internet
Sold on E-bay for a gazillion dollars. Rumor has it that the new owner is an independently wealthy Redmond, Wa executive.
When: 9/21/2000
Company: The Internet (aka Al Gore)
Severity: Off the Scale
Points: What's the point of points now.
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In legislative context (e.g. Congress), an "initiative" is a formal step that's part of making something law, before it gets voted on by the entire body. When Gore said he "took the initiative in creating the Internet", it was a miswording and political exaggeration, not an outright lie. I'd say he "sponsored the initiative to extend the Internet to the general public." Whether or not those initiatives deserve any credit is another point of debate (but I certainly give no credit to the business world, as another poster does).
And he popularized the term "information superhighway", which of course we all find annoying. But he did communicate the concept to a lot of unwired people.
No, I'm not a Democrat, I'm just tired of misinformation. Criticize Gore (and Bush and others) for real problems, not made-up ones. Jokes I have no problem with; I liked the SatireWire article and the Letterman appearance (the first funny Letterman in a while, eh?).
You can't get it in Olympia, WA.
I should know, I have the big blue E with the swooshy thingie right there on top of my backstreet boys desktop wallpaper. How could you have the internet on *your* hard drive????
As someone who worked in the federal government when Al Gore started all his government wide internet initiatives, I think there's some kind of misunderstanding about how much he did to force negligent federal agencies to get email access in 1994 and put up websites in 1995. "Reinventing Government" and all that. Gore took the lead role in those pushes under the government's plan of the "information superhighway." And the weird way that the rest of the technical public doesn't know about that... well no wonder this is funny to you. If you worked for the federal gov't when Gore was pushing the internet to executive branch agencies his comment "I invented the internet" means ONE THING- the us gov't internet policies came through my efforts. It makes perfect sense to me. why do people think this is funny? It's not that funny. My friends talk like that all the time, that "I invented this" comment was a running gag on Seinfeld. Why do people want to take it literally? stubborness?
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is likely laughing his ass off. [Amused Canadian Citizen]
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http://dailyne ws.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000915/pl/gore_letterman_dc_3. html describes Gore on Letterman last Thursday, reading the Top 10 Rejected Campaign Slogans. You just stole number 9... number 9... number 9...
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I sure hope the RIAA wins the Internet - this "Napster" traffic is really starting to get on my nerves.
You can get it @ boarders here in the Portland Metro area.
We also got it in Vermillion SD @ USD in the early 90s.
I suppose it depends what the meaning of the word IS is?
OK, if you wanna get partisan...
If you know history, you know the Nixon and Reagan administrations beat the pants off the Clinton years in terms of lying. Nixon, well, we all know about him. Reagan said "I don't recall" about a zillion times under oath. Something like 100 or more members of his staff resigned while under investigation. Someone gave me a book entirely composed of made-up statistics, anecdotes, and other lies he charmed us with. Made up. Thin air. As in, 74.8% of statistics are made up on the spot. This book lists them, and gives references to well-established data that prove them to be lies. Yet, he swayed votes and national/global policy with them.
George Bush Sr. was director of the CIA. Hell, lying is their business.
Not that any of this makes lying any more excusable. But lying about a private blow job isn't in the same league as Watergate or Iran-Contra.
It appears that the link does not contain the same description as the Satire wire article... is somebody trying to sell the internet out from under Al Gore? I can't read the ebay item number from the graphic on their website to tell for sure.
If you're quick you can also get an Al Gore voodoo doll. Aparently you can also get Al Gore's driver's license.
I guess Gore's campaign slogan now is,
"I gave you the Internet, and I can take it back"
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Kiro