Hey, this isn't a flame. It's just that when someone trots out an obviously meaningless statement, they need to be called out.
Well, I'm calling you out. Having surveyed a representative sample of US residents 12 and older with an estimated error of ~3%, they make an obviously meaningful statement about the state of American morals regarding fair use.
Perhaps you could investigate a little next time. (What? It's the same link in the main story? Yegods!)
First, Firewire == Apple-branded 1394. IEEE 1394 is an IEEE spec, it has nothing to do with IBM.
Second, 1394 specifies both powered and unpowered connectors/cables. Powered is far more common. You'll see the unpowered connectors on cameras and Vaios. They're small and break off in the port.
Most devices use the powered connectors, even if they don't draw any juice. A wall-wart is always safer, since you may be sharing the power with other devices: good for recharging (iPod); bad for a reliable hard drive (but very convenient with a laptop..)
Re:Fascinating, but not practical, here's why:
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On the contrary--the "theoretical math" was never developed for a specific representation of information, much less binary. In fact, information theory accomodates any representation, all the way back to Shannon..
The real difficulty is physical implementation. Coming up with coding schemes is trivial.
The timescale he's considering is beyond your comprehension. Lots of things can change rather dramatically, from our technological capability to our genetic makeup and even our modes of consciousness. Imagine transfer of--or even the birth of--the self into little probes blasted out into the cosmos by the trillions.. the mind boggles.
"Sorry man, but the media kit has NOTHING to do with quicktime."
NOTHING, eh:) Do you understand what Media Kit and Quicktime are? Both are nice frameworks for dealing with time-synced media. They have much less to do with specific file formats or interfaces.
"I'd really like to think there is room for a well-designed OS SOMEWHERE in the world today!"
Yeah, me too. There's certainly room for it, just not much..
Actually, gcc will almost certainly fall into that category within the next year. gcc is THE compiler for MacOS X. Apple has already added Altivec support themselves, as well a host of PowerPC optimizations. They are now in the process of giving the FSF copyright to their some 50000 lines of modifications so it can get rolled back into gcc.
Cool. gcc produces slower code than most optimizing compilers on most platforms now, so it's good to see people with a vested interest working on this.
The Athlon has great SMP support. There just aren't any SMP-capable chipsets yet. The AMD 760 will be the first, to be introduced midyear (June-July). It will support 266Mhz EV6 bus, DDR SDRAM, etc. The EV6 bus is the same that the Alpha uses. Each CPU gets its own connection to RAM and the Northbridge. This removes contention for the bus you see with multiway x86 systems, dramatically increasing memory throughput.
Via has stated they will not produce a SMP-capable chipset for the Athlon in the near future; it's not the market segment they're aiming for now.
I'll have to check that out. Intuitively, the incompleteness theorem implies unpredictable emergence. Successive emergence seems to be the root of consciousness. I'm interested to see how Jaki can deduce just the opposite.
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1. The Apple-Be thing has been beaten to death. Be made a strategic move to Intel, not a move of desperation because they were denied specs. It is a shame they aren't actively developing across platforms, but such are the drawbacks of closed source.
2. Slashdot == News for Nerds, not News for OSS advocates. As far as I can tell BeOS is the most advanced OS out today, and is therefore newsworthy among this audience. I would love for it to be open (see 1), but this doesn't stop me from drooling all over it.
"I thought that Darwin [..] was open source to begin with."
No, it wasn't. It's BSD-based, and there are other open source BSDs; however, this does not make all BSDs open source. NeXT was closed source.
"I take a liter of air (which is free), and offer to give it to you free. Does this make me a wonderful guy, or just a huckster?"
Red Hat takes Linux (which is free), and offers to give it to you free. Does this make Red Hat a wonderful company, or just a huckster?
Neither. The idea is that there is value added along the way.
"As far as I can tell, Apple is taking the sweat of the open source movement, and profiting from it without returning anything. Times like this I feel that RMS is right about the BSD license."
So far Darwin development reminds me of Mozilla. Lots of Apple guys working on it along with a handful of others. Sure, lots of people download the results, even fix some bugs, but when it comes to Real Work, guess who's doing it? And Apple certainly hasn't profited from Darwin yet.
As for returning anything, what about NetInfo, Altivec-enabled gcc, Quicktime Streaming Server, and OpenPlay?
"As for Sorensen saying Apple prevents them from releasing the codec: this just sounds like standard run-around to me: "Apple says we can't release this, sorry, talk to them." "It's Sorensen's codec, talk to them!""
Sorenson is bound by an exclusive licensing agreement with Apple, as detailed in the preceding comments.
"Sorry, but I'll beleive Apple really supports open source when they start walking the walk, not just talking the talk."
And I usually consider open source advocates to be well-informed. I mean, geez, what do you expect of them?
Not quite the whole story. Apple and Sorenson entered into a mutually beneficial exclusive licensing agreement. Therefore the contract between the companies won't let them, not Apple. And it's not like Sorenson is itching to get out of the contract; in fact, they could hardly ask for a better deal..
Pros: Apple: gets a monopoly on the best codec out there. Sorenson: gets their codec installed on most of computers in the world.
Cons: Apple: licensing fees. Sorenson: can't use codec outside of Quicktime.
Seems like a pretty sweet deal to me.
So the only way to get Sorenson is to have Apple commit to Quicktime for Linux. In this discussion people have already laid out why this is highly unlikely (Quicktime is a LOT more than just the silly player app).
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Come on, the Academy isn't that bad. And Spirited Away (subtitled) is still playing
Well, I'm calling you out. Having surveyed a representative sample of US residents 12 and older with an estimated error of ~3%, they make an obviously meaningful statement about the state of American morals regarding fair use.
Perhaps you could investigate a little next time. (What? It's the same link in the main story? Yegods!)
First, Firewire == Apple-branded 1394. IEEE 1394 is an IEEE spec, it has nothing to do with IBM.
Second, 1394 specifies both powered and unpowered connectors/cables. Powered is far more common. You'll see the unpowered connectors on cameras and Vaios. They're small and break off in the port.
Most devices use the powered connectors, even if they don't draw any juice. A wall-wart is always safer, since you may be sharing the power with other devices: good for recharging (iPod); bad for a reliable hard drive (but very convenient with a laptop..)
On the contrary--the "theoretical math" was never developed for a specific representation of information, much less binary. In fact, information theory accomodates any representation, all the way back to Shannon..
The real difficulty is physical implementation. Coming up with coding schemes is trivial.
Thank you ebbv! Your implicit confirmation of my thesis makes my day, however sad that is..
funny you're posting this on Slashdot.
> Running Linux might make you a geek but it doesn't make you smart...
;)
where do you think the collective Slashdot ego came from
that's not to say hype doesn't help. welcome to the real world of irrational people. you are one of them, despite your seeming hope otherwise.
it's a paradigm shift in the world of computing.
how is that not interesting?
more like the Grateful Dead..
no one world-changing cultural event, but a continuously evolving subculture.
keep on truckin, geekdom.
The timescale he's considering is beyond your comprehension. Lots of things can change rather dramatically, from our technological capability to our genetic makeup and even our modes of consciousness. Imagine transfer of--or even the birth of--the self into little probes blasted out into the cosmos by the trillions.. the mind boggles.
That is physical three-tier.
Logical three-tier is far more relevant:
1. Presentation
2. Logic
3. Data
For example:
1. Browser + JSP
2. EJB
3. Oracle
Or:
1. Browser + ASP
2. COM and stored procs
3. SQL Server
Set up dual monitors. You can run X on one, MacOS on the other using John Carmack's X port.
"Sorry man, but the media kit has NOTHING to do with quicktime."
:)
NOTHING, eh
Do you understand what Media Kit and Quicktime are? Both are nice frameworks for dealing with time-synced media. They have much less to do with specific file formats or interfaces.
"I'd really like to think there is room for a well-designed OS SOMEWHERE in the world today!"
Yeah, me too. There's certainly room for it, just not much..
Actually, gcc will almost certainly fall into that category within the next year. gcc is THE compiler for MacOS X. Apple has already added Altivec support themselves, as well a host of PowerPC optimizations. They are now in the process of giving the FSF copyright to their some 50000 lines of modifications so it can get rolled back into gcc.
Cool. gcc produces slower code than most optimizing compilers on most platforms now, so it's good to see people with a vested interest working on this.
The Athlon has great SMP support. There just aren't any SMP-capable chipsets yet. The AMD 760 will be the first, to be introduced midyear (June-July). It will support 266Mhz EV6 bus, DDR SDRAM, etc. The EV6 bus is the same that the Alpha uses. Each CPU gets its own connection to RAM and the Northbridge. This removes contention for the bus you see with multiway x86 systems, dramatically increasing memory throughput.
Via has stated they will not produce a SMP-capable chipset for the Athlon in the near future; it's not the market segment they're aiming for now.
I'll have to check that out. Intuitively, the incompleteness theorem implies unpredictable emergence. Successive emergence seems to be the root of consciousness. I'm interested to see how Jaki can deduce just the opposite.
Is this confused with thought?
1. The Apple-Be thing has been beaten to death. Be made a strategic move to Intel, not a move of desperation because they were denied specs. It is a shame they aren't actively developing across platforms, but such are the drawbacks of closed source.
2. Slashdot == News for Nerds, not News for OSS advocates. As far as I can tell BeOS is the most advanced OS out today, and is therefore newsworthy among this audience. I would love for it to be open (see 1), but this doesn't stop me from drooling all over it.
Hmm, you might want to brush up on your knowledge of BeOS. Try this if you're in a hurry.
Media Kit is particularly excellent. It's better designed than Quicktime but not as broad or feature-rich.
The whole OS is C++ based with beautifully clean and simple APIs. It's pervasively multithreaded, from the file system to graphics and IO.
This really is an awesome OS. Too bad there's not enough room for it in the market today.
"I thought that Darwin [..] was open source to begin with."
No, it wasn't. It's BSD-based, and there are other open source BSDs; however, this does not make all BSDs open source. NeXT was closed source.
"I take a liter of air (which is free), and offer to give it to you free. Does this make me a wonderful guy, or just a huckster?"
Red Hat takes Linux (which is free), and offers to give it to you free. Does this make Red Hat a wonderful company, or just a huckster?
Neither. The idea is that there is value added along the way.
"As far as I can tell, Apple is taking the sweat of the open source movement, and profiting from it without returning anything. Times like this I feel that RMS is right about the BSD license."
So far Darwin development reminds me of Mozilla. Lots of Apple guys working on it along with a handful of others. Sure, lots of people download the results, even fix some bugs, but when it comes to Real Work, guess who's doing it? And Apple certainly hasn't profited from Darwin yet.
As for returning anything, what about NetInfo, Altivec-enabled gcc, Quicktime Streaming Server, and OpenPlay?
"As for Sorensen saying Apple prevents them from releasing the codec: this just sounds like standard run-around to me: "Apple says we can't release this, sorry, talk to them." "It's Sorensen's codec, talk to them!""
Sorenson is bound by an exclusive licensing agreement with Apple, as detailed in the preceding comments.
"Sorry, but I'll beleive Apple really supports open source when they start walking the walk, not just talking the talk."
And I usually consider open source advocates to be well-informed. I mean, geez, what do you expect of them?
Uh, when did you check? The Quicktime file format has always been open.
Not quite the whole story. Apple and Sorenson entered into a mutually beneficial exclusive licensing agreement. Therefore the contract between the companies won't let them, not Apple. And it's not like Sorenson is itching to get out of the contract; in fact, they could hardly ask for a better deal..
Pros:
Apple: gets a monopoly on the best codec out there.
Sorenson: gets their codec installed on most of computers in the world.
Cons:
Apple: licensing fees.
Sorenson: can't use codec outside of Quicktime.
Seems like a pretty sweet deal to me.
So the only way to get Sorenson is to have Apple commit to Quicktime for Linux. In this discussion people have already laid out why this is highly unlikely (Quicktime is a LOT more than just the silly player app).
Funny -- MPEG-4 is based on Quicktime.
I'm running MySQL, which requires pthreads, without incident on DP3.
There's a pthreads -> cthreads (Mach threads) implementation out there also.