I have lived in Brazil for quite some years now. Here the gap between rich and everyone else (there is no middle class here so to speak) is to such an extent that if you have money you are a target. This means that you must live in a gated community in constant fear that you or your kids might be kidnapped. You need to own a cheapo car so you won't stand out too much when driving around. Of course you will have a nice car too, but this is only for weekends or maybe travel to places where other rich people go. In the end it is easy to become a prisoner of that wealth that is supposed to make you more free.
I would prefer to live middle class in a 1st world country than rich in Brazil. The sad thing is that the erosion of the middle class in the 1st world countries means that they soon might resemble Brazil, and this is not good, even if you are rich.
I would like to know if there are any connections between contractors and those awarding the contracts - ie Family ties, business connections, etc... in this day and age there is absolutely no way a website should cost this much. I team of around 20 proficient Web professionals should be able to make almost anything in around 1-2 years max, with a max cost no more than 10 million.
Half a billion? Follow the money, this is at best gross negligence on the part of those awarding the contracts, at worst misappropriation.
I thought the project was still called OpenERP with OpenObject being the type of API/framework it uses. Also as of Verson 7.0 I believe they are doing away with the Desktop client in favor of a pure browser based system.
You call this and the other nasty posts "constructive criticism"... hmmm.
Fuck off or fix it for yourself, that's right... or, heaven forbid, pay someone that has a clue to fix what you don't like. Buy your own fuckin' beer for once.
don't look a gift horse in the mouth?
Say thanks or just STFU. Maybe it's not the best it can be, but it is free and maybe, just maybe there is some hot source code under the hood that may fuel something you may laud in the future. Now run along and make something better or, as most of you couldn't code for two shits, go use instagram or some other spyware disguised in pretty UI.
is in my opinion better and open source as well. http://wz2100.net/ - Graphics are a little dated but the gameplay is very addictive. I would say if the girls were tested with this game they would have been playing for longer than an hour per day;)
If I make free software that looks terrible, and someone else pretties it up, complies with the terms of the license, and manages to sell a product, good for them.
Selling the product is not the problem, restricting the distribution is. Are you going to be happy if someone takes your terrible looking product then essentially limits it's distribution because they have just prettied up some css and images? What if this new product becomes more popular than yours, what if this new product starts making lots of money while your project dies in obscurity?
What you are saying is that it is ok for someone to essentially use all your hardwork and give you nothing in return, ie not allow you to use their work. Will you feel like continually upgrading your product while the person that can make pretty css and images makes a killing off it and you make nothing?
On the other hand if the images and css were GPL, you would be able to integrate the work back into your product, thus your enhancements would benefit the other developer and the other developers enhancements would benefit you. Basically you will then have a symbiotic relationship with the other developer as opposed to a parasitic one. It is my view that split licensed GPL / proprietary distributions are indeed parasitic, they take and give nothing in return.
I don't see a problem here. Especially when someone can take a free thing and add enough value to it, without writing code, that people are willing to buy a free product.
WordPress has decided to enforce their philosophy by restricting people who contribute a product that, some can argue, enhances WordPress. And restrict them from interacting with the WordPress community. That is a difficult situation, to restrict contributors because what they contribute isn't free.
I think you are confused about this. Nobody is restricting anyone from selling the product - WordPress actually hosts commercial GPL themes on their main site. The problem is limiting distribution, something I feel is wrong due to the reasons I outlined above.
Really, the quality of PHP depends on the person writing it. Bad code is bad code in any language, PHP does not cause you to write bad code, the problem is you!
PHP is the most popular scripting language, most servers support and more importantly, there is a ton of documentation and examples about. I really can't see why people hate it so much, I guess we are probably looking at some form of Fanboi war, apple vs m$ type bullshit.
There are many ways to skin a cat (in regards to programming) with PHP being probably the most inexpensive way to achieve what you need to do on the server side. It is either this or use one of the "cool" languages and pay more... whatever
"For example, if I want to handle AJAX responses, Drupal and WP each offer a simple hook to intercept program execution at a point between CMS setup (authentication, module initialization, etc.) and HTTP output (I need to output prior to any headers being sent out). Since I can use the same module file, I can preserve object context. Also, they each have a very simple CSV options/preferences system that abstracts the database behind a basic functional interface.
In Joomla, I am forced to write an entire system plugin, and use a pretty hairy database "semaphore" system to communicate context. I also need to write a content plugin in order to allow a shortcode ability. In both Drupal and WP, the content filter is simply another functional interface in the same context."
OMG someone please mod the above post down. It is incredibly simple using Joomla and AJAX, just a matter of calling format=raw or format=json. The above post shows he probably tried his hand at Joomla without learning to use the framework, or messed with it back in 2007. Informative my ass... more like the mods are just as clueless as the author and thought his long winded rant was correct without even researching for themselves.
If your kid swallows something nasty it would be good to have this handy. There are certain things that should not be vomited up and this could be a useful application for the device (more useful than what they are marketing it for anyway).
wowo welcome to 2012 where the new 12 is 6... I told the "young man" that this was not a toy, hence the long lecture... he is well rounded and has a good head on his shoulders, he has had the frickin laser for a few months now and I haven't even thought about it till now, much less heard of him blinding any pilots, drivers, kids or bunny rabbits... what I am concerned about is how many here are seeming to equate 12 with being a little child... where the hell are you guys from?
yeah 12, but really it's not about age, it's about guidance - I had slingshots, bow and arrows and (heaven forbid) a pocket knife - all before the age of 12, these things can maim or kill if used irresponsibly, yet I am still here (as are my friends). Hell a kid can pick up a rock and throw it at someone and 99% of the time do more damage than a laser... so what would you suggest, lock the kids up and only allow outside with "parental supervision"?
Pointing a video camera at someone doesn't have the potential to cause blindness. This is more like assault / firing something at someone, ie if you fire a slingshot at a person you are gonna get done for assault, get caught firing a gun at a plain and you are in big trouble. Same deal. The 52 year old douche that did this deserves everything he has coming, probably more.
My young Stepson got one of these (powerful green laser) and I was pretty much blown away at the power of it... I did see when he was unpacking it lots of warnings so I spent some time with him when he first tested it out. So we get outside at night and what is the first thing he tries to do, yep point it a plane flying overhead... so cue the huge boring lecture from me about the danger of these things and how if he gets caught pointing his laser at planes, or cars or people's eyes he will be sent to a boys home... well I think he got the point. The main thing is that kids need to understand the danger of these things and there is a responsibility for parents to keep up with the times and actually understand that "new toy"...
Erasmus was an independent and somewhat eccentric thinking machine that served under Omnius prior to and during the Butlerian Jihad. Erasmus took his name, and titular gender, from the ancient Earth scholar Desiderius Erasmus.
His attempts to understand humanity typically came through experiments on enslaved humans of the Synchronized Worlds, which normally resulted in suffering, misery and death for the subjects.
He would definitely be interested in this, although he did (will) make a more virulent virus at one point...
Yeah Wow! I think you must be a wage slave driver! Talk about knee jerk... you sound like a southern farmer being asked to let his niggers go free.. oh the outrage!!!
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I have lived in Brazil for quite some years now. Here the gap between rich and everyone else (there is no middle class here so to speak) is to such an extent that if you have money you are a target. This means that you must live in a gated community in constant fear that you or your kids might be kidnapped. You need to own a cheapo car so you won't stand out too much when driving around. Of course you will have a nice car too, but this is only for weekends or maybe travel to places where other rich people go. In the end it is easy to become a prisoner of that wealth that is supposed to make you more free. I would prefer to live middle class in a 1st world country than rich in Brazil. The sad thing is that the erosion of the middle class in the 1st world countries means that they soon might resemble Brazil, and this is not good, even if you are rich.
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Well said, please mod up the parent!
I would like to know if there are any connections between contractors and those awarding the contracts - ie Family ties, business connections, etc... in this day and age there is absolutely no way a website should cost this much. I team of around 20 proficient Web professionals should be able to make almost anything in around 1-2 years max, with a max cost no more than 10 million. Half a billion? Follow the money, this is at best gross negligence on the part of those awarding the contracts, at worst misappropriation.
I thought the project was still called OpenERP with OpenObject being the type of API/framework it uses. Also as of Verson 7.0 I believe they are doing away with the Desktop client in favor of a pure browser based system.
For anyone that didn't read the slogan.... Soulskill has definitely out done himself today! Kudos!
You call this and the other nasty posts "constructive criticism"... hmmm. Fuck off or fix it for yourself, that's right... or, heaven forbid, pay someone that has a clue to fix what you don't like. Buy your own fuckin' beer for once.
don't look a gift horse in the mouth? Say thanks or just STFU. Maybe it's not the best it can be, but it is free and maybe, just maybe there is some hot source code under the hood that may fuel something you may laud in the future. Now run along and make something better or, as most of you couldn't code for two shits, go use instagram or some other spyware disguised in pretty UI.
is in my opinion better and open source as well. http://wz2100.net/ - Graphics are a little dated but the gameplay is very addictive. I would say if the girls were tested with this game they would have been playing for longer than an hour per day ;)
please mod up the parent!
that ain't no moon...
If I make free software that looks terrible, and someone else pretties it up, complies with the terms of the license, and manages to sell a product, good for them.
Selling the product is not the problem, restricting the distribution is. Are you going to be happy if someone takes your terrible looking product then essentially limits it's distribution because they have just prettied up some css and images? What if this new product becomes more popular than yours, what if this new product starts making lots of money while your project dies in obscurity?
What you are saying is that it is ok for someone to essentially use all your hardwork and give you nothing in return, ie not allow you to use their work. Will you feel like continually upgrading your product while the person that can make pretty css and images makes a killing off it and you make nothing?
On the other hand if the images and css were GPL, you would be able to integrate the work back into your product, thus your enhancements would benefit the other developer and the other developers enhancements would benefit you. Basically you will then have a symbiotic relationship with the other developer as opposed to a parasitic one. It is my view that split licensed GPL / proprietary distributions are indeed parasitic, they take and give nothing in return.
I don't see a problem here. Especially when someone can take a free thing and add enough value to it, without writing code, that people are willing to buy a free product.
WordPress has decided to enforce their philosophy by restricting people who contribute a product that, some can argue, enhances WordPress. And restrict them from interacting with the WordPress community. That is a difficult situation, to restrict contributors because what they contribute isn't free.
I think you are confused about this. Nobody is restricting anyone from selling the product - WordPress actually hosts commercial GPL themes on their main site. The problem is limiting distribution, something I feel is wrong due to the reasons I outlined above.
Really, the quality of PHP depends on the person writing it. Bad code is bad code in any language, PHP does not cause you to write bad code, the problem is you! PHP is the most popular scripting language, most servers support and more importantly, there is a ton of documentation and examples about. I really can't see why people hate it so much, I guess we are probably looking at some form of Fanboi war, apple vs m$ type bullshit. There are many ways to skin a cat (in regards to programming) with PHP being probably the most inexpensive way to achieve what you need to do on the server side. It is either this or use one of the "cool" languages and pay more... whatever
"For example, if I want to handle AJAX responses, Drupal and WP each offer a simple hook to intercept program execution at a point between CMS setup (authentication, module initialization, etc.) and HTTP output (I need to output prior to any headers being sent out). Since I can use the same module file, I can preserve object context. Also, they each have a very simple CSV options/preferences system that abstracts the database behind a basic functional interface. In Joomla, I am forced to write an entire system plugin, and use a pretty hairy database "semaphore" system to communicate context. I also need to write a content plugin in order to allow a shortcode ability. In both Drupal and WP, the content filter is simply another functional interface in the same context." OMG someone please mod the above post down. It is incredibly simple using Joomla and AJAX, just a matter of calling format=raw or format=json. The above post shows he probably tried his hand at Joomla without learning to use the framework, or messed with it back in 2007. Informative my ass... more like the mods are just as clueless as the author and thought his long winded rant was correct without even researching for themselves.
Have a look at Brazil. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/08/11/brazils-ridiculous-80000-jeep-grand-cherokee/
The "obvious connection" is that he is targeting lazy people!
If your kid swallows something nasty it would be good to have this handy. There are certain things that should not be vomited up and this could be a useful application for the device (more useful than what they are marketing it for anyway).
damn just used my last mod point - that is funnnnny!
wowo welcome to 2012 where the new 12 is 6... I told the "young man" that this was not a toy, hence the long lecture... he is well rounded and has a good head on his shoulders, he has had the frickin laser for a few months now and I haven't even thought about it till now, much less heard of him blinding any pilots, drivers, kids or bunny rabbits... what I am concerned about is how many here are seeming to equate 12 with being a little child... where the hell are you guys from?
yeah 12, but really it's not about age, it's about guidance - I had slingshots, bow and arrows and (heaven forbid) a pocket knife - all before the age of 12, these things can maim or kill if used irresponsibly, yet I am still here (as are my friends). Hell a kid can pick up a rock and throw it at someone and 99% of the time do more damage than a laser... so what would you suggest, lock the kids up and only allow outside with "parental supervision"?
Pointing a video camera at someone doesn't have the potential to cause blindness. This is more like assault / firing something at someone, ie if you fire a slingshot at a person you are gonna get done for assault, get caught firing a gun at a plain and you are in big trouble. Same deal. The 52 year old douche that did this deserves everything he has coming, probably more.
My young Stepson got one of these (powerful green laser) and I was pretty much blown away at the power of it... I did see when he was unpacking it lots of warnings so I spent some time with him when he first tested it out. So we get outside at night and what is the first thing he tries to do, yep point it a plane flying overhead... so cue the huge boring lecture from me about the danger of these things and how if he gets caught pointing his laser at planes, or cars or people's eyes he will be sent to a boys home... well I think he got the point. The main thing is that kids need to understand the danger of these things and there is a responsibility for parents to keep up with the times and actually understand that "new toy"...
Please mod the parent up...
Erasmus was an independent and somewhat eccentric thinking machine that served under Omnius prior to and during the Butlerian Jihad. Erasmus took his name, and titular gender, from the ancient Earth scholar Desiderius Erasmus. His attempts to understand humanity typically came through experiments on enslaved humans of the Synchronized Worlds, which normally resulted in suffering, misery and death for the subjects. He would definitely be interested in this, although he did (will) make a more virulent virus at one point...
Yeah Wow! I think you must be a wage slave driver! Talk about knee jerk... you sound like a southern farmer being asked to let his niggers go free.. oh the outrage!!!