FYI: That Email client is carrier controlled. That is it is set-up and maintained by your network operator(T-Mobile). It's not meant to access some email account over POP or IMAP.
No a better example would be if a person has a working laptop in his backpack witch happens to be searching for "public hotspots". It connects to your network. And Viola! We have a criminal!
And by same analogy a modern CPU is a block of chemicals and should not be considered Turing complete, since without electricity it cannot do anything.
I would expect that a person has to be open minded enough to not have NIH syndrome and look at countries that actually have a well running universal healthcare system. And BTW there was, is and always will be a percent of "the fat, lazy, and stupid" that will abuse the system.
Hm... Isn't the CEO "elected" by the shareholders? So they would logically be on the same level as any other elected official to their electorate. So a CEO of a company probably should have the same level of privacy before shareholders as a mayor before his electorate.
I still believe that Americans a the biggest hypocrites on the face of earth. You claim to be secular, but US is the country with most influence by religion. Europeans celebrate religion as history and culture, but religion plays little role in European states, even in Italy(the place where the Catholic church holds most power). You(USofA people) people complain about a lot of things but fail to live up to them yourselves. As I've seen first hand on my first, and hopefully last, trip to US(in it's current state). Though I wish you the very best...
Are you an EXPERT ON ALL the architectures of all processors? Will you be able to write a big app with all code paths for each and every processor? And then will it be even equivalent in size to JVM itself? You know , I can write an app on Atmel processor that will outperform the best of breed processors one to one comparison? Why? No OS. Direct instructions for processor and highest level of optimizations.
The morale is: A specialized anything is better than a generalized something. (better - here means performance)
They actually could do that with US, since MS is a LARGE financial contributor to US. Not so in EU. If they would try to pull that off with EU, assets would be seized, subsidiaries disbanded and probably would have temporary compulsory licensing. The $$$ spent in EU for MS products WOULD STAY in EU, so EU would win.
Yeah, it would be interesting to see a major corporation declare itself to be above the law. They already act that way. And MS clearly believes they are above the law. But, they have never made the mistake of publicly declaring that they are beyond the law.
But...
I had the misfortune to have to do business with MS in the '90s before the first judgment came down against them in the US. They told us privately that if the US government tried to break them up they would just move across the border to Canada or just buy a small country, preferably an island, and move the whole company out of the US. They also threatened, privately, to just stop selling Windows and technical support to the US government.
I was working for a baby bell at the time and so we were able to explain to them what it is like for a company to operate for 60 years under judicial supervision. Not nice. In the US a federal court judge can throw the entire executive staff of a company into prison for as long as he likes if they pull the kind of thing you suggest MS pull. They can appoint people to run the company until such time as it is in full compliance with court orders. And, a federal judge can send US marshals anywhere in the world to capture these people. (Yes, it may be kidnapping in the country where they reside... but the judge can still do it), and a Federal Judge can request that the President use military force to capture some one. So yeah, they can send in the Marines... Ok, that last bit is very unlikely to happen, but it could.
I do not know what the EU can do against a company that flaunts its laws. But, I am sure that at least some of the member states have laws similar to those is the US.
Just an example... I once worked for a fellow who was indicted for murder in the state of Illinois. He lived in the state of Utah and Utah declined to extradite him. He now is unable to leave the state of Utah. If he sets foot out side of Utah he can be arrested and most likely will be extradited to Illinois where he will be tried for murder. The same could happen to all the board of directors and all the executives of MS. They could be extradited to the EU to face criminal charges there, or if the US refuses to extradite them they could find that they can never safely leave the US again for fear of being extradited to the EU and spending a large part of the rest of their lives in jail.
No country can fail to react swiftly and harshly to any attack on the sovereignty and that is exactly what MS would be doing if they did what you described.
And they can't threaten us as we have enough nukes to take out the USA several times over.
Of course anyone who thinks anyone is going to start a war over MS is probably on drugs and has recently been reading World War 3.0 (and taken it way too literally).
Leaving that aside, although you maybe right, there is no EU army (yet); and many of the members's states governments love to suck up to the US's current regime, are in the US-controlled NATO military coalition and their nukes were sold to them by the US government along with US proprietary launch software to which the US still holds the over-ride sequences (or worse still, the US gov requires a day's notice to hand over the launch codes to the nukes they sold them). Most importantly the US have many times more nukes than all the European countries put together, I heard enough to destroy the planet four times over, and Bush is the guy behind the big red button so what makes you think he won't use that power so he can gloat about winning the war when he meets us all in the next life.
Free market is like communism. Utopia. Communism is not feasible in scales larger than a very small community(like a family). Free market is utopia above utopias in current mass consumption driven global market. Maybe possible at the small marketplace somewhere in Kenya:)
Actually, Iraq is a bad war. Afghanistan was legit.
US: Give us bin Laden. Taliban: We don't have him. US: Bullshit. Give us bin Laden. Taliban: OK, we have him, but we'll try him in our own special way. US: Bullshit. Give us bin Laden. Taliban: Come and get him. But remember the USSR. US: [invades] BS: If Russians would have had no opposition by US, Afghanistan would be a country much like Tajikistan. And if with that opposition Russians would be like Romans, than there would BE no afghanis(pashtunis more precise)...
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You know what they say...
The stylus is mightier than a finger?
FYI: That Email client is carrier controlled. That is it is set-up and maintained by your network operator(T-Mobile). It's not meant to access some email account over POP or IMAP.
No a better example would be if a person has a working laptop in his backpack witch happens to be searching for "public hotspots". It connects to your network. And Viola! We have a criminal!
I shouldn't be bothered to secure my network. Just let the person using my network be prosecuted using everyone's tax'es!
American F**KING DREAM!
Oh... And where I come from you have to pay the same amount as EeePC costs to get WinXP on it....(only 10% difference in price of WinXP and EeePC)
And by same analogy a modern CPU is a block of chemicals and should not be considered Turing complete, since without electricity it cannot do anything.
Don't be silly. They are smart aren't they? We will have GeForce 10K and AMD 1M+
I would expect that a person has to be open minded enough to not have NIH syndrome and look at countries that actually have a well running universal healthcare system.
And BTW there was, is and always will be a percent of "the fat, lazy, and stupid" that will abuse the system.
Hm...
Isn't the CEO "elected" by the shareholders? So they would logically be on the same level as any other elected official to their electorate.
So a CEO of a company probably should have the same level of privacy before shareholders as a mayor before his electorate.
Hey that is exactly the reason WE want you to believe why you are using Linux!
Let's all pray for another mind fallen to our propaganda!
The MOST visible evidence of evolution are races!
I mean why would God create negroid race and mongoloid race and others for that matter.
Life always comes out from something....
Would that be a drunk night... Or a cluster of organic molecules...
I still believe that Americans a the biggest hypocrites on the face of earth.
You claim to be secular, but US is the country with most influence by religion. Europeans celebrate religion as history and culture, but religion plays little role in European states, even in Italy(the place where the Catholic church holds most power). You(USofA people) people complain about a lot of things but fail to live up to them yourselves. As I've seen first hand on my first, and hopefully last, trip to US(in it's current state). Though I wish you the very best...
The fact that it's not easy to create a Smalltalk compiler to JVM bytecode, does not mean that it's design is horrible...
Are you an EXPERT ON ALL the architectures of all processors?
Will you be able to write a big app with all code paths for each and every processor? And then will it be even equivalent in size to JVM itself?
You know , I can write an app on Atmel processor that will outperform the best of breed processors one to one comparison? Why? No OS. Direct instructions for processor and highest level of optimizations.
The morale is: A specialized anything is better than a generalized something. (better - here means performance)
But...
I had the misfortune to have to do business with MS in the '90s before the first judgment came down against them in the US. They told us privately that if the US government tried to break them up they would just move across the border to Canada or just buy a small country, preferably an island, and move the whole company out of the US. They also threatened, privately, to just stop selling Windows and technical support to the US government.
I was working for a baby bell at the time and so we were able to explain to them what it is like for a company to operate for 60 years under judicial supervision. Not nice. In the US a federal court judge can throw the entire executive staff of a company into prison for as long as he likes if they pull the kind of thing you suggest MS pull. They can appoint people to run the company until such time as it is in full compliance with court orders. And, a federal judge can send US marshals anywhere in the world to capture these people. (Yes, it may be kidnapping in the country where they reside... but the judge can still do it), and a Federal Judge can request that the President use military force to capture some one. So yeah, they can send in the Marines... Ok, that last bit is very unlikely to happen, but it could.
I do not know what the EU can do against a company that flaunts its laws. But, I am sure that at least some of the member states have laws similar to those is the US.
Just an example... I once worked for a fellow who was indicted for murder in the state of Illinois. He lived in the state of Utah and Utah declined to extradite him. He now is unable to leave the state of Utah. If he sets foot out side of Utah he can be arrested and most likely will be extradited to Illinois where he will be tried for murder. The same could happen to all the board of directors and all the executives of MS. They could be extradited to the EU to face criminal charges there, or if the US refuses to extradite them they could find that they can never safely leave the US again for fear of being extradited to the EU and spending a large part of the rest of their lives in jail.
No country can fail to react swiftly and harshly to any attack on the sovereignty and that is exactly what MS would be doing if they did what you described.
Stonewolf
Yo! Ever heard of compulsory licensing? Currently employed by Brazil(someone WILL correct me if I'm wrong) for HIV treatment drugs.
Some of us have been trying to get rid of the influence of Brussels on our country for years, but with a regrettable lack of success so far. :-(
Yeah, it's really hard to get rid of influence of Brussels when you ARE in BrusselsOf course anyone who thinks anyone is going to start a war over MS is probably on drugs and has recently been reading World War 3.0 (and taken it way too literally).
We'll ask Russia for helpLeaving that aside, although you maybe right, there is no EU army (yet); and many of the members's states governments love to suck up to the US's current regime, are in the US-controlled NATO military coalition and their nukes were sold to them by the US government along with US proprietary launch software to which the US still holds the over-ride sequences (or worse still, the US gov requires a day's notice to hand over the launch codes to the nukes they sold them). Most importantly the US have many times more nukes than all the European countries put together, I heard enough to destroy the planet four times over, and Bush is the guy behind the big red button so what makes you think he won't use that power so he can gloat about winning the war when he meets us all in the next life.
Free market is like communism. Utopia. Communism is not feasible in scales larger than a very small community(like a family). :)
Free market is utopia above utopias in current mass consumption driven global market. Maybe possible at the small marketplace somewhere in Kenya
US: Give us bin Laden.
Taliban: We don't have him.
US: Bullshit. Give us bin Laden.
Taliban: OK, we have him, but we'll try him in our own special way.
US: Bullshit. Give us bin Laden.
Taliban: Come and get him. But remember the USSR.
US: [invades] BS:
If Russians would have had no opposition by US, Afghanistan would be a country much like Tajikistan.
And if with that opposition Russians would be like Romans, than there would BE no afghanis(pashtunis more precise)...
Are you the stupid one here? Or you just don't know the difference between federal and unitary states?
USA is a federal state. Get used to it! Positives and negatives come with it.
Really WHY are they using cellphones?
Shouldn't they be like... amish? They are ultra religious...
Yeah.... And you can finally run a single WAS 6.1 instance on one of these babies! With some performance degradation...
Ahem... Webspere Community Edition is the other way around. Webspere Community Edition = Apache Geronimo with pretty interface and IBM's name on it :)