late post, but what the hell. In January this year I was fired from my Intranet admin and development job at Bain and Company, Inc. because I was using Perl and Apache. I now work for a much cooler company using mod_perl, MySQL, etc etc on Linux. I am much happier when I wake up in the morning now =)
Pretty soon after I left everything was transferred to an IIS box built to the approved corporate standard. There's too much Perl to throw out overnight, but future development will be ASP with Visual InterDev. (Odd that I could replace / replicate ASP stuff quickly but not the other way round...)
Even on NT, Apache ran without problems for nearly a year. Not a single crash. The average uptime on the NT server zoomed up to >30 days.
From what I hear, the IIS box has rolled over and died many times in the last few months. Still, at least it did so in the Approved Corporate Manner.
A bit off-topic, assuming this turns into yet-another mp3 discussion...
Before I'd so much as seen a webpage I was using DATASTAR and Dialog (and a couple of other big online databases.) For those who haven't seen them, they are/awesome/ -- they have complete, indexed fulltext of literally thousands of newspapers, newswires, magazines, journals (academic and popular). I was thinking about this last night in the context of searching, ie that I was lucky to have had some training on searching those (they had their own oh-so-user-friendly commandline search languages) .
This is the biggest missed opportunity of the web/net. Searching for articles on something using standard web search engines is slow, painful, and often you end up with a random assortment of stuff. You spend ages sorting spurious hits from the real thing, following links that look like they might be relevant but actually aren't, and so on.
What I would like is a web interface to one of those databases. I'd even be willing to pay small amounts to get the fulltext of an article once located. Too ofen the best info you can find is a mixture of someone's personal notes, a couple of academic sites' "top level overviews" without anything specific and a bunch of lame niche sites. When I first heard about the web I naively imagined it might become something like the great free public lending library; alas, not so.
Is there any chance of digital access to the LOCKSS info ? Not unless you're physically in the library, I guess. Ah well.
vila: a long and noble tradition Camaron de la Isla 'When I sing with pleasure, my
"Widespread non-compliance cannot be effectively constrained, and will demonstrate the irrelevance and inappropriateness of the law."
Suggestion : UK/.ers start calling ISPs now. Complain about random pages that don't actually mention you. The ISPs will presumably at least check the pages before yanking them, which will start absorbing significant amounts of time. The ISPs will quickly start pressurising the DTI -- the govt will have the choice of changing the law of waving goodbye to UK-based servers.
I'm sure there are things wrong with this idea, what have I missed ?
[OK, mod me down for posting an advert, but it's relevant, honest]
http://www.fotoguide.com is what you want... you just tick the box when you take the film in for developing and get back an URL with your transparencies or prints.
Full disclosure disclaimer : I work for guideguide.com who do the fotoguide amongst other things. The bad news is it's Germany only, so far. So give us dosh to expand;)
PS We use gimp, mod_perl, Linux, and other Free software. Any UK based Perl/LInux hackers looking for new jobs ?
The situation in the UK is further complicated by the fact that according to existing laws suurrounding censorship and libel, the "publisher" of traditional paper material can be any of; the publisher, the writer, distributors and/or stockists! This leads to a horrible situation, where a shop is responsible for the content of books that it stocks - which has lead to several raids in the UK against comic shops stocking "adult" comics.
Thus the situation where , say, WHSmiths (large chain of newsagents) regularly used to refuse to carry Private Eye (satirical magazine) when their covers featured people such as Robert Maxwell who were known to be fond of the courts.
I seem to have posted five times on one story... soprry, everyone, it must have been something I ate;)
AFAIK, deadtree printers can and DO get sued for printing controversial stuff, sometimes. eg IIRC when OZ was prosecuted in 1968 the printers were also charged.
The point here is that demon were told that there was defamatory material and refused to take it down.
So should an ISP delete anything that anyone tells them is defamatory ? Or the police ? the Government ? a customer ? Anyone who looks like they can afford to sue ?
[ Warning : this is phrased in a deliberately OTT manner, but is NOT intended to be a troll... honest;) ]
This does sound utterly absurd, and the Nazi comparison may well be appropriate for once. WHat I'm wondering is: given that you (Americans) don't really have a democracy, the state imprisons a far greater chunk of the population than anywhere else in the world, it seems to be considered fine and natural to burn (black, male) children alive in the name of justice, income distribution is in the same class as a banana republic, and the political and economic power structures are hopeless corrupt : at what point do you lot, the intelligensia (presumably) start to do what the lucky few did in Germany between 1933/38 -- emigrate to a civilised country ? If you don't recognise this description of the US,/please/ don't just flame me as a euro-weenie... that's just the way it looks to me from Europe.
Hey ! Your sig has a minor inaccuracy. I think if you review the tape you'll find Avon/actually/ says : "That's right. I'm not stupid, I'm not expendable, and I'm not going.":) PS how/did/ he use Orac to ssh into Zen in 'Aftermath' ?
I was just reading this article in Astronomy by Marcy & Butler (leaders of the team which has found more extra-solar planets than any other). So far, due to the nature of the sample and techniques used for locating them (mostly Doppler shifts) most everything found has been very very big (up to 8 Jupiter masses) or Jupiter-sized things in absurdly close orbits -- 3 days at 0.05 AU for instance. During the formation of planetary systems, lots of smaller proto-planets would be flung out of the system by gravitational interaction with more rapidly accreting objects.
There is also some controversy about when and where our gas giants formed -- there is mounting evidence that they formed much closer in, then drifted outwards to their current locations.
There's an really scary HG Wells short story on this theme. It looks like it's going to collide with earth or screw up the orbit but juuuust misses. IIRC. Haven't read it for ages. Title is something like "the second sun".
Interesting, thanks... perhaps the problem is something to do with the box being a strange generic model with possibly dodgy or cutprice hardware (apart from the Voodoo that is.) Also, I'm on Mandrake 6.0 -- perhaps it'll be fifth distro lucky:)
Thanks for the hints, I'll give that a go. My distro is ~6 months old. Course I haven't got the thing networked yet so Dling stuff & transferring via floppy is rather a pain...
I'm pretty sure there's enough masochistic stuff in there to keep me happy for a while yet -- the next thing I want to learn more about is low-level TCP, sockets programming etc:) It makes a nice change from AIX, anyway, which doesn't have man pages let alone Perl...
Yes, I have tried finding external help. The XFree86.org site suggests that the Voodoo just isn't supported by XFree86. After a few quick web searches I discovered that 3dfx themselves support their own replacement XF86 SVGA server, and found various other sites offering hints and tips (and shortcuts to rpms...)
Next stop has been 3dfx.glide.linux (so if anyone on this thread would like to help, a more detailed description is there !)
Apologies for the rather sarcastic tone. I know it/can/ be done, and of course the slow slog to learn stuff so that it will eventually be second nature is half the fun in the first place. All I'm trying to say is, Linux is by no means ready for the general home user, and anyone who thinks differently has never had to do tech support for said general users.
OTOH I/am/ a bit of an idiot sometimes, and the fact that I can be paid to write Perl says more about the ease & power of Perl than my skills:)
> When X first came up, it would only come up > in 640x480, I had to mess around with the > X86config file,
Ha ! Count yourself lucky !
I've been trying to get a fucntional Linux system for/two years/. Before activating flamethrowers, let me point out that my job title is "Perl programmer". I've tried Debian, RedHat and now Mandrake. Alas, X has screwed it up every time. Currently I'm trying to get it working at something greater than 200x320. Whoops, it's a Voodo3fx card, course I can't expect that to work, can I ? I mean, it's/only/ 18 months old, right ?
The only reason the machine hasn't gone back to NT is that I'm bloodyminded (masochistic ?) enough to keep sweating over the wretched thing.
Some excellent & very timely coverage, esp. in December last year, came from SANS; see in particular Solaris Flash alert; it seems that a lot of trinoo, TFNxxxx and stacheldraht has originated from poorly secured Solaris boxes. Also see SANS Global Incident Analysis Center for broader coverage of current security issues.
Any Solaris users/admins care to comment on the whether it's sheer bad luck that these tools pick on Solaris rather than Linux ? Or is it just a matter of time before thousands of insecure RedHat boxen join the tribe ?
And wouldn't win95 boxes on dial-up connections be the ideal host to launch distributed DoS attacks from ?
Jon, when you first appeared on Slashdot you were quickly engaged by readers who spotted that you weren't on Linux, BSD or anything like it. You couragously began to tell the story of the wave of support you recieved from the/. community with the standard newbie to Linux problems -- admitting that you found it difficult, but were trying hard.
So, how is the Linux experiment going ? Have you given up, or are you quietly playing with it for an hour or so a day, learning a little more ?
Slashdot Mirror
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=^IXIC&d=1y NASDAQ: one year chart
It certainly looks like a big correction could come any day now. Oh yes.
Camaron de la Isla 'When I sing with pleasure, my
Pretty soon after I left everything was transferred to an IIS box built to the approved corporate standard. There's too much Perl to throw out overnight, but future development will be ASP with Visual InterDev. (Odd that I could replace / replicate ASP stuff quickly but not the other way round ...)
Even on NT, Apache ran without problems for nearly a year. Not a single crash. The average uptime on the NT server zoomed up to >30 days.
From what I hear, the IIS box has rolled over and died many times in the last few months. Still, at least it did so in the Approved Corporate Manner.
Camaron de la Isla 'When I sing with pleasure, my
Before I'd so much as seen a webpage I was using DATASTAR and Dialog (and a couple of other big online databases.) For those who haven't seen them, they are /awesome/ -- they have complete, indexed fulltext of literally thousands of newspapers, newswires, magazines, journals (academic and popular). I was thinking about this last night in the context of searching, ie that I was lucky to have had some training on searching those (they had their own oh-so-user-friendly commandline search languages) .
This is the biggest missed opportunity of the web/net. Searching for articles on something using standard web search engines is slow, painful, and often you end up with a random assortment of stuff. You spend ages sorting spurious hits from the real thing, following links that look like they might be relevant but actually aren't, and so on.
What I would like is a web interface to one of those databases. I'd even be willing to pay small amounts to get the fulltext of an article once located. Too ofen the best info you can find is a mixture of someone's personal notes, a couple of academic sites' "top level overviews" without anything specific and a bunch of lame niche sites. When I first heard about the web I naively imagined it might become something like the great free public lending library; alas, not so.
Is there any chance of digital access to the LOCKSS info ? Not unless you're physically in the library, I guess. Ah well.
vila: a long and noble tradition
Camaron de la Isla 'When I sing with pleasure, my
Was it
Answer : Linux Torvalds. Source : Linux Journal.
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http://www2.linuxjourn al.com/articles/conversations/006.html
Personally, I prefer Perl, but there ya go
Camaron de la Isla 'When I sing with pleasure, my
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Suggestion : UK /.ers start calling ISPs now. Complain about random pages that don't actually mention you. The ISPs will presumably at least check the pages before yanking them, which will start absorbing significant amounts of time. The ISPs will quickly start pressurising the DTI -- the govt will have the choice of changing the law of waving goodbye to UK-based servers.
I'm sure there are things wrong with this idea, what have I missed ?
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http://www.fotoguide.com is what you want
Full disclosure disclaimer : I work for guideguide.com who do the fotoguide amongst other things. The bad news is it's Germany only, so far. So give us dosh to expand ;)
PS We use gimp, mod_perl, Linux, and other Free software. Any UK based Perl/LInux hackers looking for new jobs ?
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Blake's 7 was always much better than Star Trek, because
And finally, 20 years on, they're going to film it :)
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Wed Apr 5 19:21:51 BST 2000
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% ping www.2600.com
ping: unknown host www.2600.com
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% nslookup 2600.com
Server: tr505.mediaconsult.com
Address: 192.168.1.1
*** tr505.mediaconsult.com can't find 2600.com: Non-existent host/domain
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Hmmm. Must be our ISP or us or me or something.
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Thus the situation where , say, WHSmiths (large chain of newsagents) regularly used to refuse to carry Private Eye (satirical magazine) when their covers featured people such as Robert Maxwell who were known to be fond of the courts.
I seem to have posted five times on one story ... soprry, everyone, it must have been something I ate ;)
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"OK, to start with, we all understand basic IP, right ?" [blank looks all round] "You know, TCP, UDP, ports, dotted quads ... uh .... "
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So should an ISP delete anything that anyone tells them is defamatory ? Or the police ? the Government ? a customer ? Anyone who looks like they can afford to sue ?
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This guy is well known for, er, um, well Demon are my ISP too, so let's just say he's well known in UK internet circles ;)
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This does sound utterly absurd, and the Nazi comparison may well be appropriate for once. WHat I'm wondering is: given that you (Americans) don't really have a democracy, the state imprisons a far greater chunk of the population than anywhere else in the world, it seems to be considered fine and natural to burn (black, male) children alive in the name of justice, income distribution is in the same class as a banana republic, and the political and economic power structures are hopeless corrupt : at what point do you lot, the intelligensia (presumably) start to do what the lucky few did in Germany between 1933/38 -- emigrate to a civilised country ? If you don't recognise this description of the US, /please/ don't just flame me as a euro-weenie ... that's just the way it looks to me from Europe.
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Hey ! Your sig has a minor inaccuracy. I think if you review the tape you'll find Avon /actually/ says : "That's right. I'm not stupid, I'm not expendable, and I'm not going." :) PS how /did/ he use Orac to ssh into Zen in 'Aftermath' ?
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- anybody want a peanut ?
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There is also some controversy about when and where our gas giants formed -- there is mounting evidence that they formed much closer in, then drifted outwards to their current locations.
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There's an really scary HG Wells short story on this theme. It looks like it's going to collide with earth or screw up the orbit but juuuust misses. IIRC. Haven't read it for ages. Title is something like "the second sun".
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Interesting, thanks ... perhaps the problem is something to do with the box being a strange generic model with possibly dodgy or cutprice hardware (apart from the Voodoo that is.) Also, I'm on Mandrake 6.0 -- perhaps it'll be fifth distro lucky :)
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I'm pretty sure there's enough masochistic stuff in there to keep me happy for a while yet -- the next thing I want to learn more about is low-level TCP, sockets programming etc :) It makes a nice change from AIX, anyway, which doesn't have man pages let alone Perl ...
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Next stop has been 3dfx.glide.linux (so if anyone on this thread would like to help, a more detailed description is there !)
Apologies for the rather sarcastic tone. I know it /can/ be done, and of course the slow slog to learn stuff so that it will eventually be second nature is half the fun in the first place. All I'm trying to say is, Linux is by no means ready for the general home user, and anyone who thinks differently has never had to do tech support for said general users.
OTOH I /am/ a bit of an idiot sometimes, and the fact that I can be paid to write Perl says more about the ease & power of Perl than my skills :)
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> in 640x480, I had to mess around with the
> X86config file,
Ha ! Count yourself lucky !
I've been trying to get a fucntional Linux system for /two years/. Before activating flamethrowers, let me point out that my job title is "Perl programmer". I've tried Debian, RedHat and now Mandrake. Alas, X has screwed it up every time. Currently I'm trying to get it working at something greater than 200x320. Whoops, it's a Voodo3fx card, course I can't expect that to work, can I ? I mean, it's /only/ 18 months old, right ?
The only reason the machine hasn't gone back to NT is that I'm bloodyminded (masochistic ?) enough to keep sweating over the wretched thing.
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Any Solaris users/admins care to comment on the whether it's sheer bad luck that these tools pick on Solaris rather than Linux ? Or is it just a matter of time before thousands of insecure RedHat boxen join the tribe ?
And wouldn't win95 boxes on dial-up connections be the ideal host to launch distributed DoS attacks from ?
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So, how is the Linux experiment going ? Have you given up, or are you quietly playing with it for an hour or so a day, learning a little more ?
This is a genuine question, not a flame !
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