yes and no- we artists don't need the RIAA but we need a good piece of centralization for people to find stuff, and preferably a membership "all you can eat" model of downloading (for non-commercial use only) with ability to sell non-downloadable merchandise (t-shirts, buttons, or whatever cool thing you can come up with like action figures, mp3 loaded and logo branded flash drives, etc.). the RIAA would be a good place to start to do it if they weren't greedy opportunistic fat lazy SOBs with no regard for the fans or the artists.
you really want to kill em- I could volunteer my music copyrights and we could get others as well to be searched for on RIAA systems as "illegal copies" by any hacker that wants to break in and do it- according to their own rules (or proposed therof) this would be legal so long as we give full permission- to hack and raid their systems under their noses with blatant disregard of their privacy rights or data protection.
fuck sound exchange- they are trying to take royalties on my music that is played on internet radio- that I have full knowledge is being played and approve of. Speaking as an independent musician one day I hope people see that the music industry conglomerates not only don't have the best interest of consumers in mind but us artists as well.
you overlook a major thing about it- the RIAA will blame piracy for the losses
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"As for the appliance oriented DAW, Protools already covers that and is ubiquitous in pro studios. It's just too expensive for the average home user though"
the difference though, is that protools is a DAW application primarily for studio usage, but ableton live is a performance application and is more geared toward HW interface- when I use it I use an evolution x-session since it is one of only a couple that I have found that has a crossfader and integrates very smoothly with the application controls, but I don't have options in the controller for triggering and such, so I use a second conroller for all of those utilities- if there was a good AIO interface and a package bundle (with triggers, possibly a quickrefLCD and knobs/fader/crossfader) was sold for say $500 or so it could very well take off in a big way- as it stands controllers normally come with a crippled ver. of ableton and funny enough I have had friends that didn't use ableton because they didn't see the usage until I showed them a full package and the capabilities of it, then they purchased a full version. The cripple ware actually hurt consumer view of the product.
Personally I would love to see a full HW ableton box that lets you dump and perform with just the box, I would prolly still bring my laptop(s)(I am experimenting with using 2) onstage- but it would let me move some of the processing and tweaking around or use my laptop as an outboard sync'd effect unit/sw synth controller.
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he could always give the sounds to musicians that use the sounds for an endorsement- that way if he is selling them for a reasonable price other musicians will use them and pay for it.
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"but I know a guy who makes a living by creating drum and other sounds that people use to make electronic music. It's not a big operation, just him and one other guy. When you order a DVD he burns one by hand and mails it to you. Anyway, someone just uploaded ALL their products to Bittorrent, and he can see all these people posting about how cool they are and how they can't wait to download them. Needless to say he's pretty despondent."
Has he tried commenting and/or contacting the poster about it so that he could add contact info and explain his situation? I am an electronic musician and I came across something like this and used it- I would send him some $ knowing that it was an independent operation- remember though that I, like a lot of us electronic musicians don't make a whole lot of $ (if at all) from music- and the ones that don't have high paying day jobs are broke all of the time (I know a lot that don't) and would do what they can, but can't do much.
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"I am absolutely sick and tired of hearing people justify their *ILLEGAL* copying activities which achieve *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* for me as an honest consumer of music and movies."
I think that you will find that almost everyone (there will always be some jackass who pays for nothing) is an "honest consumer of music and movies" everyone pays for some entertainment- it is really just the percentage that is the difference, but downloading a crappy movie that everyone is talking about and you would never pay for but you are curious about because it is there, is different than downloading it INSTEAD of paying for it. If the **AA were smart- they would start distributing things for free that have branding (say an xvid with branding in the crop space or small semitransparent overlays) advertisements that they would make $ on. Software manufacturers could do the same with splash screens or emblems and context menu links. It is a truly captive audience since you actually have devoted attention to the product rather than a commercial before or between content. That way if I wanted to really gee how bad Gilgi was for free- I would still be receiving an advert from coke or whathaveyou without reducing my crappy movie experience from the film.
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Also it has to be noted that there are far more sales of any piece of software to a business that to a consumer. This is often because a business can write the cost of the software off as an operating/equipment expense but a consumer cannot. So if for some reason Photoshop got fully locked down and consumers could not get pirated versions their sales really wouldn't budge much, there would just be less people using it(because a wide range of people that use it wouldn't be able to pay the 1k price tag) and the popularity would go down leaving a spot for the consumer market to turn towards another piece of software like GIMP (as an example) to start filling the void in the consumer market that adobe used to hold. This in turn gives rise to consumers suggesting GIMP to replace Photoshop in the business markets and in the long run a decline in sales.
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same goes for ableton live (I know a ton of people that started with pirated versions and ended up buying full versions when they could afford it)- at least until they jacked the price up on the latest version from $399 at release to $599, but when the price drops a couple of hundred like it did with 5.0 and the vista bugs get worked they will see sales hit again. My only thought with a lot of specialty performing software like live is that they should partner like the OS's do (like when you buy a laptop)in delivering a suite package with other companies (outfit with plugins or editors and such) with a piece hardware, or developing their own hardware that is designed with specific functions and/or stand alone hardware that integrates with the software.
this really does make sense.....
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When we need to perform specific functions at work and need a piece of software to perform that function (rather than internally developed)I will often just grab a ton of similar pieces of software at home and fully test the abilities of all of them (often trial versions are too crippled to test- when I can I use trial software). When one hits what we need I make a recommendation and we can end up outfitting our entire department with legal licenses. So granted- the software company pirated loses the cost of one license to me, but because I have done this I end up generating 20-150 license sales in one pop (sometimes this goes into the $10-100k in sales). Seems like a good trade off for the software manufacurer if you ask me.
absolutely- I had a friend when I was younger that was dating a girl less than a year younger than him and her parents didn't like him- they had out since they were 13 and 14 . a week after his 18th birthday he was picked up for statutory rape- even though the 2 of them had been together for 4 years and were only about 10 months apart in age. So after he served 4 of his 10 year sentence for statutory rape and was let out on good behavior he is now a registered sex offender for the rest of his life. He can't get a job, can't live anywhere- so what does he do- he sells drugs and floats around. he sells a lot of drugs. He can't really do anything else now so instead of an honor student going to college and being a very productive person in society, now he is a big time drug trafficker. I think of this whenever I hear about "cracking down on sex offenders".
yes and no- I think that copyright needs to be respected but it is not imminent domain over life and liberty of citizens- the fact of the matter is that filesharers are doing what an old fashioned industry was too slow and stupid to setup first. I don't think anyone bat an eye if an affordable service with a reasonable monthly fee and full back catalog and no DRM that was hosted by these affiliates had been there first (or at least somewhat early) because then the argument would be- dude how cheap are you- pay the 20 bucks a month for the all-you-can-download non DRM non timing out files that you can burn and watch later service? The **AA at this point would have gotten hundreds of millions if not billions from the subscrip fees alone (and could charge a LOT for advertising on the site as well as promote upcoming releases to a captive audience for free)and consumers would be happy. I would certainly pay a subscription if the MPAA put all of the affiliated movies up and hosted servers that I knew were stable and fast and I could get what I want. But they didn't. They thought it would be wiser and more judicious to try to run consumers through the mud and get people thrown in jail or try to take their life savings'.
but you see- the thing about downloading (which is not "pirating" as "pirating" a movie is duplicating and distributing for profit) is it will never hit a moral fiber because you are not actually taking something from someone. By this I mean that if I were to download a movie- the retailer would still have the dvd, hell the person you downloaded from would still have the file, so in essence you are not stealing- you are copying. Are you depriving the RIAA/MPAA affiliates of profits? The real question is this: would you have paid for the material had it not have been available for free? I would think that the answer to this question is usually no. When I see that a movie that I am willing to shell out 30 bucks for (in the theater her tix are $15 a pop so that is me and my gf) I go and see it- especially if it an independent film. 99% of the movies out I would never do this with. So then you have these executives whose profit goes down in dvd sales at some point and they say: "no one is buying the new keeanu reeves movie it has to be pirates". Well maybe it is because the movie sucks and no one wants to buy it so those that want to see it out of curiosity netflix it or rent it from blockbuster. "the new [insert artist here] album isn't selling it must be pirates" well has anyone looked at individual itunes and other mp3 sales- if someone likes the new justin timberlake song they are not going to want the whole album, they will download 1 song nowadays and call it a day- they hear another one they like and they download that one, or if they are like me they will ignore it because it is crap. For those that haven't read it you should read freakonomics - it does a very good job of pointing out relational data vs. non-relational data in the early chapters something that a lot of ppl don't ever quite get. If you believe that pirates are killing the industry then you should be able to say with concrete evidence that they truly are doing the damage that you say. If I lost my job and a black guy moved into the neighborhood- would I say that it was his fault? He did move in and I did lose my job. If I flush my toilet and the telephone rings then does the toilet make the telephone ring? I would like to see just once where the **IAA can actually provide a real data comparison that could take into account market research numbers, multiple sales numbers from all relational products and see in the end what the percentage in the end "pirating" is really costing them and how much is the industry making a crappy product and how much is the pure economics of the US and the fleecing of the consumer. They wouldn't be able to justify it so it will never happen- and that is why people don't think it is wrong.
I agree that you can't expect someone making 300 a month to buy the $20 dvd but one big problem with that argument is this- what is the cost of living in romania- I live in san francisco- yes I make 55k a year (after a raise- when I filed my taxes- I made 38k last year)- and I pay about 30k in living expenses for a 1 bedroom apartment, I don't own a car, I don't have cable, I own no property. I hope to buy a house someday- at the current rate-that is when I am 60 or so. If I lived in say Arkansas or Missouri I would still be making the same $ for my job classification (maybe more with a saturation of tech ppl here) - but I would have say 10k max in living expenses. When you take regional economics like that into account- I may be better off than the romanian, but the romanian can spend less on food and rent and if I do as I did last year coming out 8k ahead and owing 500 in taxes at years end- who really is better off? The real thieves are the entertainment officials who are not losing any physical property and suing and changing laws based on projected sales numbers- not real $ lost but possible money lost.
I actually had to search like mad for a new laptop that would run xp (most have no driver support for xp)- got a lenovo that a compusa had sitting in the back for cost- still a core duo centrino with 2gb of ram - I use it for live audio so I needed xp pro. I was glad to find it since I thought I was going to have to either get an alienware or a mac and have it boot to xp. I was pretty lucky to get it- someone at best buy told me that the manufacturers recalled all of the xp supported machines.
I am surprised that it hasn't come out that the major retailers had all of their xp machines recalled from them and that for laptops everyone except dell took down all of their drivers or are not supplying them for xp- for current model laptops that are being sold. Microsoft is strong arming the market into using xp- you literally cannot buy a machine in a major retailer that has xp support unless you are lucky and get a machine that was missed in the recall.
last week I met my wii after work, we went to a movie and dinner. I liked the place but wii said that the chicken was a little dry and our service was slow. I took wii's wiimote in my hand and gazed at her beautiful glowing disc feeder. As I held wii I whispered gently to her "I love you wii" as she hummed sweetly in my ear. Needless to say I felt for wii what I have never felt for a console before.
After a ride in the park in a horse drawn carriage I could see that wii was a bit low on batteries so we took a cab home and held each other for hours. We laughed together and told stories of your youth and family- she told me about her immigrant grandparents famicom and nes, needless to say I was impressed how far she came to be with me. Then we dimmed the lights and made love. I could feel her rumble pack tremble at my touch as I slid my hands along her sleek ivory details.
the rest I can't go into, but I can say this I love my wii.
screw this thread I going to play my wii..... whoa wtf- where-
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"accordance with the new DMCA your wii has been confiscated signed: microsoft."
DAMN YOU MICROSOFT!!!!!
I agree with you to a certain extent, but the fact of the matter is that there is a difference between pirating games and modding- the reason that the first x-box was so successful was that ppl modded them and used them for media players and internet devices, used them to play emulated games (that are not normally on xbox) linux and a number of other things- I find it interesting that ps3 actually has a linux build and is encouraging user generated content while MS with the 360 (and vista) is discouraging it. This is sad because people don't want to be told how to use their computing power and that they must "play things this way" and "operate things that way". For years MS was a bastion of the opposite of this way of thinking and has encouraged freeware and shareware developers and really spurred the whole movement towards OS modification and usability- but has gotten a BIG head lately with it's lockdowns and lawsuits and really overall bullying. I was talking to someone at best buy recently because I do live audio with my laptop and wanted to get a new xp supported laptop since all of my hardware and software is not supported in vista- what he told me was this "If you can find one buy it- or get an alienware because all of the companies that we sell recalled all of our xp supported machines and replaced them with vista machines that do not have driver support in xp- our company has lost a lot of money on it because vista machines don't sell". I can understand switching up and providing new machines with vista, but to actually recall the xp machines from the retailer to try to push the public to use something that they don't want is wholesale bullying. Luckilly I found a lenovo later that week after hitting about 9 stores (best buy, fry's, compusa and a number of independent stores) that was missed when sending the laptops back on the recall (1 of 2 in the storeroom) and was sold it at cost. Honestly if there was a viable alternative I would switch but I hate macs for audio and even though linux has come a long way, I use it for work but it straight up sucks for audio, video production and 3d modeling (which is what my home machines are for).
china & india will never fall in line with the us copyright laws- and that is the majority of the world's population
korea and sweden won't and they are WAY ahead of us in the US tech-wise (since they are not bogged by corporate interests)
personally I see the *IAA as treasonous and I think if their interests are upheld 50 years down the road when everyone else is ahead of us technologically and financially it will be seen as our "McCarthyism" with "pirate" replacing "communist"
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yes and no- we artists don't need the RIAA but we need a good piece of centralization for people to find stuff, and preferably a membership "all you can eat" model of downloading (for non-commercial use only) with ability to sell non-downloadable merchandise (t-shirts, buttons, or whatever cool thing you can come up with like action figures, mp3 loaded and logo branded flash drives, etc.). the RIAA would be a good place to start to do it if they weren't greedy opportunistic fat lazy SOBs with no regard for the fans or the artists.
you really want to kill em- I could volunteer my music copyrights and we could get others as well to be searched for on RIAA systems as "illegal copies" by any hacker that wants to break in and do it- according to their own rules (or proposed therof) this would be legal so long as we give full permission- to hack and raid their systems under their noses with blatant disregard of their privacy rights or data protection.
fuck sound exchange- they are trying to take royalties on my music that is played on internet radio- that I have full knowledge is being played and approve of. Speaking as an independent musician one day I hope people see that the music industry conglomerates not only don't have the best interest of consumers in mind but us artists as well.
you overlook a major thing about it- the RIAA will blame piracy for the losses
"As for the appliance oriented DAW, Protools already covers that and is ubiquitous in pro studios. It's just too expensive for the average home user though" the difference though, is that protools is a DAW application primarily for studio usage, but ableton live is a performance application and is more geared toward HW interface- when I use it I use an evolution x-session since it is one of only a couple that I have found that has a crossfader and integrates very smoothly with the application controls, but I don't have options in the controller for triggering and such, so I use a second conroller for all of those utilities- if there was a good AIO interface and a package bundle (with triggers, possibly a quickrefLCD and knobs/fader/crossfader) was sold for say $500 or so it could very well take off in a big way- as it stands controllers normally come with a crippled ver. of ableton and funny enough I have had friends that didn't use ableton because they didn't see the usage until I showed them a full package and the capabilities of it, then they purchased a full version. The cripple ware actually hurt consumer view of the product. Personally I would love to see a full HW ableton box that lets you dump and perform with just the box, I would prolly still bring my laptop(s)(I am experimenting with using 2) onstage- but it would let me move some of the processing and tweaking around or use my laptop as an outboard sync'd effect unit/sw synth controller.
he could always give the sounds to musicians that use the sounds for an endorsement- that way if he is selling them for a reasonable price other musicians will use them and pay for it.
"but I know a guy who makes a living by creating drum and other sounds that people use to make electronic music. It's not a big operation, just him and one other guy. When you order a DVD he burns one by hand and mails it to you. Anyway, someone just uploaded ALL their products to Bittorrent, and he can see all these people posting about how cool they are and how they can't wait to download them. Needless to say he's pretty despondent." Has he tried commenting and/or contacting the poster about it so that he could add contact info and explain his situation? I am an electronic musician and I came across something like this and used it- I would send him some $ knowing that it was an independent operation- remember though that I, like a lot of us electronic musicians don't make a whole lot of $ (if at all) from music- and the ones that don't have high paying day jobs are broke all of the time (I know a lot that don't) and would do what they can, but can't do much.
"I am absolutely sick and tired of hearing people justify their *ILLEGAL* copying activities which achieve *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING* for me as an honest consumer of music and movies." I think that you will find that almost everyone (there will always be some jackass who pays for nothing) is an "honest consumer of music and movies" everyone pays for some entertainment- it is really just the percentage that is the difference, but downloading a crappy movie that everyone is talking about and you would never pay for but you are curious about because it is there, is different than downloading it INSTEAD of paying for it. If the **AA were smart- they would start distributing things for free that have branding (say an xvid with branding in the crop space or small semitransparent overlays) advertisements that they would make $ on. Software manufacturers could do the same with splash screens or emblems and context menu links. It is a truly captive audience since you actually have devoted attention to the product rather than a commercial before or between content. That way if I wanted to really gee how bad Gilgi was for free- I would still be receiving an advert from coke or whathaveyou without reducing my crappy movie experience from the film.
Also it has to be noted that there are far more sales of any piece of software to a business that to a consumer. This is often because a business can write the cost of the software off as an operating/equipment expense but a consumer cannot. So if for some reason Photoshop got fully locked down and consumers could not get pirated versions their sales really wouldn't budge much, there would just be less people using it(because a wide range of people that use it wouldn't be able to pay the 1k price tag) and the popularity would go down leaving a spot for the consumer market to turn towards another piece of software like GIMP (as an example) to start filling the void in the consumer market that adobe used to hold. This in turn gives rise to consumers suggesting GIMP to replace Photoshop in the business markets and in the long run a decline in sales.
same goes for ableton live (I know a ton of people that started with pirated versions and ended up buying full versions when they could afford it)- at least until they jacked the price up on the latest version from $399 at release to $599, but when the price drops a couple of hundred like it did with 5.0 and the vista bugs get worked they will see sales hit again. My only thought with a lot of specialty performing software like live is that they should partner like the OS's do (like when you buy a laptop)in delivering a suite package with other companies (outfit with plugins or editors and such) with a piece hardware, or developing their own hardware that is designed with specific functions and/or stand alone hardware that integrates with the software.
When we need to perform specific functions at work and need a piece of software to perform that function (rather than internally developed)I will often just grab a ton of similar pieces of software at home and fully test the abilities of all of them (often trial versions are too crippled to test- when I can I use trial software). When one hits what we need I make a recommendation and we can end up outfitting our entire department with legal licenses. So granted- the software company pirated loses the cost of one license to me, but because I have done this I end up generating 20-150 license sales in one pop (sometimes this goes into the $10-100k in sales). Seems like a good trade off for the software manufacurer if you ask me.
absolutely- I had a friend when I was younger that was dating a girl less than a year younger than him and her parents didn't like him- they had out since they were 13 and 14 . a week after his 18th birthday he was picked up for statutory rape- even though the 2 of them had been together for 4 years and were only about 10 months apart in age. So after he served 4 of his 10 year sentence for statutory rape and was let out on good behavior he is now a registered sex offender for the rest of his life. He can't get a job, can't live anywhere- so what does he do- he sells drugs and floats around. he sells a lot of drugs. He can't really do anything else now so instead of an honor student going to college and being a very productive person in society, now he is a big time drug trafficker. I think of this whenever I hear about "cracking down on sex offenders".
I want sperm.bank and blood.bank
yes and no- I think that copyright needs to be respected but it is not imminent domain over life and liberty of citizens- the fact of the matter is that filesharers are doing what an old fashioned industry was too slow and stupid to setup first. I don't think anyone bat an eye if an affordable service with a reasonable monthly fee and full back catalog and no DRM that was hosted by these affiliates had been there first (or at least somewhat early) because then the argument would be- dude how cheap are you- pay the 20 bucks a month for the all-you-can-download non DRM non timing out files that you can burn and watch later service? The **AA at this point would have gotten hundreds of millions if not billions from the subscrip fees alone (and could charge a LOT for advertising on the site as well as promote upcoming releases to a captive audience for free)and consumers would be happy. I would certainly pay a subscription if the MPAA put all of the affiliated movies up and hosted servers that I knew were stable and fast and I could get what I want. But they didn't. They thought it would be wiser and more judicious to try to run consumers through the mud and get people thrown in jail or try to take their life savings'.
but you see- the thing about downloading (which is not "pirating" as "pirating" a movie is duplicating and distributing for profit) is it will never hit a moral fiber because you are not actually taking something from someone. By this I mean that if I were to download a movie- the retailer would still have the dvd, hell the person you downloaded from would still have the file, so in essence you are not stealing- you are copying. Are you depriving the RIAA/MPAA affiliates of profits? The real question is this: would you have paid for the material had it not have been available for free? I would think that the answer to this question is usually no. When I see that a movie that I am willing to shell out 30 bucks for (in the theater her tix are $15 a pop so that is me and my gf) I go and see it- especially if it an independent film. 99% of the movies out I would never do this with. So then you have these executives whose profit goes down in dvd sales at some point and they say: "no one is buying the new keeanu reeves movie it has to be pirates". Well maybe it is because the movie sucks and no one wants to buy it so those that want to see it out of curiosity netflix it or rent it from blockbuster. "the new [insert artist here] album isn't selling it must be pirates" well has anyone looked at individual itunes and other mp3 sales- if someone likes the new justin timberlake song they are not going to want the whole album, they will download 1 song nowadays and call it a day- they hear another one they like and they download that one, or if they are like me they will ignore it because it is crap. For those that haven't read it you should read freakonomics - it does a very good job of pointing out relational data vs. non-relational data in the early chapters something that a lot of ppl don't ever quite get. If you believe that pirates are killing the industry then you should be able to say with concrete evidence that they truly are doing the damage that you say. If I lost my job and a black guy moved into the neighborhood- would I say that it was his fault? He did move in and I did lose my job. If I flush my toilet and the telephone rings then does the toilet make the telephone ring? I would like to see just once where the **IAA can actually provide a real data comparison that could take into account market research numbers, multiple sales numbers from all relational products and see in the end what the percentage in the end "pirating" is really costing them and how much is the industry making a crappy product and how much is the pure economics of the US and the fleecing of the consumer. They wouldn't be able to justify it so it will never happen- and that is why people don't think it is wrong.
I agree that you can't expect someone making 300 a month to buy the $20 dvd but one big problem with that argument is this- what is the cost of living in romania- I live in san francisco- yes I make 55k a year (after a raise- when I filed my taxes- I made 38k last year)- and I pay about 30k in living expenses for a 1 bedroom apartment, I don't own a car, I don't have cable, I own no property. I hope to buy a house someday- at the current rate-that is when I am 60 or so. If I lived in say Arkansas or Missouri I would still be making the same $ for my job classification (maybe more with a saturation of tech ppl here) - but I would have say 10k max in living expenses. When you take regional economics like that into account- I may be better off than the romanian, but the romanian can spend less on food and rent and if I do as I did last year coming out 8k ahead and owing 500 in taxes at years end- who really is better off? The real thieves are the entertainment officials who are not losing any physical property and suing and changing laws based on projected sales numbers- not real $ lost but possible money lost.
I want to call it the "WideAngleSnakeHole" or the "VisualPleasureInsertionPort"
I actually had to search like mad for a new laptop that would run xp (most have no driver support for xp)- got a lenovo that a compusa had sitting in the back for cost- still a core duo centrino with 2gb of ram - I use it for live audio so I needed xp pro. I was glad to find it since I thought I was going to have to either get an alienware or a mac and have it boot to xp. I was pretty lucky to get it- someone at best buy told me that the manufacturers recalled all of the xp supported machines.
I am surprised that it hasn't come out that the major retailers had all of their xp machines recalled from them and that for laptops everyone except dell took down all of their drivers or are not supplying them for xp- for current model laptops that are being sold. Microsoft is strong arming the market into using xp- you literally cannot buy a machine in a major retailer that has xp support unless you are lucky and get a machine that was missed in the recall.
we need a new web
last week I met my wii after work, we went to a movie and dinner. I liked the place but wii said that the chicken was a little dry and our service was slow. I took wii's wiimote in my hand and gazed at her beautiful glowing disc feeder. As I held wii I whispered gently to her "I love you wii" as she hummed sweetly in my ear. Needless to say I felt for wii what I have never felt for a console before. After a ride in the park in a horse drawn carriage I could see that wii was a bit low on batteries so we took a cab home and held each other for hours. We laughed together and told stories of your youth and family- she told me about her immigrant grandparents famicom and nes, needless to say I was impressed how far she came to be with me. Then we dimmed the lights and made love. I could feel her rumble pack tremble at my touch as I slid my hands along her sleek ivory details. the rest I can't go into, but I can say this I love my wii.
my girlfriend runs linux
screw this thread I going to play my wii..... whoa wtf- where- note reads: "accordance with the new DMCA your wii has been confiscated signed: microsoft." DAMN YOU MICROSOFT!!!!!
I agree with you to a certain extent, but the fact of the matter is that there is a difference between pirating games and modding- the reason that the first x-box was so successful was that ppl modded them and used them for media players and internet devices, used them to play emulated games (that are not normally on xbox) linux and a number of other things- I find it interesting that ps3 actually has a linux build and is encouraging user generated content while MS with the 360 (and vista) is discouraging it. This is sad because people don't want to be told how to use their computing power and that they must "play things this way" and "operate things that way". For years MS was a bastion of the opposite of this way of thinking and has encouraged freeware and shareware developers and really spurred the whole movement towards OS modification and usability- but has gotten a BIG head lately with it's lockdowns and lawsuits and really overall bullying. I was talking to someone at best buy recently because I do live audio with my laptop and wanted to get a new xp supported laptop since all of my hardware and software is not supported in vista- what he told me was this "If you can find one buy it- or get an alienware because all of the companies that we sell recalled all of our xp supported machines and replaced them with vista machines that do not have driver support in xp- our company has lost a lot of money on it because vista machines don't sell". I can understand switching up and providing new machines with vista, but to actually recall the xp machines from the retailer to try to push the public to use something that they don't want is wholesale bullying. Luckilly I found a lenovo later that week after hitting about 9 stores (best buy, fry's, compusa and a number of independent stores) that was missed when sending the laptops back on the recall (1 of 2 in the storeroom) and was sold it at cost. Honestly if there was a viable alternative I would switch but I hate macs for audio and even though linux has come a long way, I use it for work but it straight up sucks for audio, video production and 3d modeling (which is what my home machines are for).
china & india will never fall in line with the us copyright laws- and that is the majority of the world's population korea and sweden won't and they are WAY ahead of us in the US tech-wise (since they are not bogged by corporate interests) personally I see the *IAA as treasonous and I think if their interests are upheld 50 years down the road when everyone else is ahead of us technologically and financially it will be seen as our "McCarthyism" with "pirate" replacing "communist"