Wow, I was just about to post a similar comment about SnowCrash and the CIC. Actually, I was thinking of start a web venture that does the same thing as the CIC, and seeing that this company really doesnt do the same thing, I still might. The big difference it looks like is that this company is primarily like questionexchange and such. People ask questions,etc.. and get paid if someone buys it. Primarily in the computer sector. The CIC in Snowcrash delt in literally all forms of information, but primarily in 'intel' in the sense of CIA type intelligence.
I notice that the software is gpl and such. But what about the datafiles? Do we still have to pay 500 dollars to get the data? Or is that going to go up on a FTP site somewhere?
Thats not true at all. One of the main reasons companies incorporate is so the owners cant be held legally liable for anything. Once you incorporate your company can only be held liable for its assets. The officers of the company cant be held accountable for anything the company does. You could sew the company for millions, if they didnt have it, it wouldnt effect the underaged (or anyones) owners credit or anything. Same thing with deals, the corporation is its own entity fully cable of making deals, it acts sorta as an adult. The officer could be 2 years old, doesnt matter. Only recently have lawsuits tried to whole officers of companies accountable. I seem to remember one about an air plane crash, and the company officials were aware of the defect. This was a case of death though, not financial damage.
I am not sure how to take this. I dont think 'run around' properly describes it. The makes us sound like a bunch of little kids that have been given unlimited access to a candy store. We have legitamate reasons to be there, and that doesnt mean running to all the booths and getting freebies.
You are confused. There is no law stating that you have to be 18 to attend a computer conference , or any conference for that matter. That is something that is controlled by the conference organizers. They came up with the rule that you had to be 18, it is NO LAW. It is as simple as saying 'Come On In..'
Just like him, I am of a similiar age, and have had my company for the last 6 years. Ever since I was little I have sat at a desk with a phone and played a business man. Thats just what I wanted to do. I attend alot of the local conferences, and although they say you must be 18, they always allow me in. Comdex's response suprises me. The reason the have this age limit is so they dont get parents bringing there kids and letting them run around. These conferences must remain at a certain level or professionalism. But exceptions should certainly be made for young entrepenuers that have a legitamate reason for being there. I will be attending Supercomputing 99 in portland and ITEC. Any other slashdotters going to be at either one of those?
While I am against large monopolies just as I should be, there are other factors involved with the government just opening up the cable lines. Think of this analogy. You are a farmer, and you have spent years cultivating and building up your farm. Your soil is finally nice, and you are having abundance of crops. What if the government told you that you have to let other farmers use the land with you have nutured for the last few years. Its the same principle. The cable companies have spend many years and millions and millions of dollars to upgrade there networks. Why should they have to let others use there network, if these other people have had no part in building the network in the first place. Its a free ride for these companies that are riding other the cable companies years of hard work. Nothing was stoping these other people from building large fiber networks while the cable company were upgrading theres.
First of all, How could the cops bust them? They do do anything illegal on the show as far as I know.I know Mantis was nervous as hell with the camera around , so he did little more then common unix commands. Second, who says the are hackers in the sense that they go around breaking into computers illegal, and for that reason must hide there identity. Its is alias anyway, Mantis isnt his name. They got the Lopht thing going on, although you could probably find there names alot easier.
Ok, So I dont know anything about security because I cant read your mind? When people use terms as "serious security company" and other terms, its all subject to interpretation. You meaning could mean something completely different then mine, but that doesnt mean I know nothing about security. I also said now were that certification ment anyting, your putting words into my mouth again. I also agree that certs dont mean anything, and that anyone can get a cert , doesnt mean they know what they are doing. About his skills and qualifcations. If you want to know more email him, his email is probably on the parse page on www.biztechtv.com. The intention of me writing the comment was not neccesarily to promote his skills, as much as it was to tell me not to judge things by there cover. People had comments all over about how its probably some lame script kiddie, etc.., you really should go off saying such things that you dont know to be true, watch the show, then you can rant on how lame the person is.
You Tell them, I tried to, but maybe they will take you more serious because you are L0pht. I do know how MTV wont air anything technical. They kept telling mantis to rephrase what he was saying in what they call english, phrase it to the MTV audience. So dont exspect technical information. Mantis also told me how you L0pht people called them kiddies, hehe.:)
Actually, Quite literally, he undoubtly has that knowledge and probably more. When I think of hacker, thats what I also think of, not someone who can download all the latest tools and run them, and reads bugtraq and stuff. Is is vary familiar with unit/nt/routing (i think he might even have cisco cert, if not getting it right now), tcp/ip,etc.. And he does do professional security consulting. But really, a serious major company, thats bs. What makes you a good security firm, because you name gets well known. That doesnt mean anything. Anyway, he knows his stuff, and when I mean stuff, I mean what you consider to be true hacker knowledge.
You guys really dont have a clue who the hacker is in this MTV special, so you really shouldnt judge until you have seen it. Actually, the hacker is a friend of mine named Mantis, from the famed Parse hack/phreak tv show broadcast over the Pseudo Network. He is very skilled, and lectured at SpookTech and demonstrated techniques to government officials. So you can knock on mtv all they want, on the quality of the show, but the hacker knows his shit. He isnt someone who just learned about BO2K or something and installed it. They found him through New York Times article on him and Shamrock's lecture at SpookTech. MTV reads the news also. To tell the truth though, dont exspect anything extravagent. Mantis felt kinda nervous with a MTV camera man following him around all day, so he didnt do anything besides typing 'ls' and 'cd' on his unix machine all day. The show is actually already online in realvideo, I will post a url later if someone doesnt beat me to it.
I sure hope I am on this list of people. After all my name is in open Sources in the acknowledgements section, which is written by Chris Dibona, which is like VP at VA. They also sent me a nice care package, thank you chris, the nerf gun is elite. Now you can toss in some stock options,;P.
Thats not true. My Id is 1093, but I was more like one the original 50 or so. I read slashdot since it was chips and dips, long before it was slashdot. When it was on robs original homepage. I just didnt get my account registered until 1093. So its really unfair to some of us, who have been reading alot longer then the people who have ids under 500,1000, whatever..
I wish. Actually, I have not had time to complete the website. If you are interested in purchasing something though, email me for a price quote. We are pretty damned cheap, are are legit unlike those pricewatch companies. Oh ya, we accept credit cards.:)
Awesome. I was just looking for information on how to do this a couple days ago. High quality fresnel lenses from Edmund Scientific arnt really that cheap though.
Umm, You couldnt afford to use this company. This company was started by a ex-Microsoft employee along with someone from Real Networks. There clientel is mainly major record labels. I dont even know if they do that small of volume. Like they did Sony's 250,000 cd archive and digitized it for them. So reall, they are a big professional company that does huge huge orders. There was an article about them in wired, the one about MP3's this summer. July or something. I suggest looking up a media conversion company in your local phonebook. Most do VHS to VCD conversion,and some probably even DVD.
umm, NO!. They have not. Those articles never mentioned anything about the method. They just said that someones domain was taken over, and they didnt know how. There has been no actual reports , especially with details, about mail-from exploiting. There hasnt even been a hacker article. Unless you can provide links of course to someone mentioning mail-from hijacking. And still, I believe it to be a different method then what I know about. The way I am talking about requires no mail relaying, or spoofing of email, no telneting port 25 or anything to do with sending and email until the exploit as already tooken place.
Umm, I am dissappointed. Aparrently no one as found the vulnerability I found around a year ago. Its a real vulnerability, not just weak web based email stuff. Lets just say it has to do with mail-from authentication of domain name changes. I am sure someone will figure it out now.
Hey, Give us slashdot readers the opportunity to buy stocks before anyone else. Exspecially those of us who have been reading since before slashdot, the good ol days of Chips And Dip. Jeff Knox
Umm, on thing about these are they are really bad on your back. If you have ever slept ona recliner or hunched up and read a book in your bed, oyur back hurts not long after you started. Look at the way the guys back is bent in the pictures. Inless you are sitting straight up, like you would in a normal chair, after a short period of time you are going to have some bad back pains. Do this everyday and you are going to be hunched over and crippled when you are older.
If you are refering to the people who did that scan has hackers or common criinals you are a complete ignorant person. They are computer security professionals doing a survey of the internets computer security. Companies do this kind of thing all the time and charge thousands for the results, they just did it free. Lets start arresting every demographics and market research company as well. And what about the company that surveys what web servers are used on the net, are they criminals? If you were not referring to the people who did that scan, then well, ignore everything I said.
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Wow, I was just about to post a similar comment about SnowCrash and the CIC. Actually, I was thinking of start a web venture that does the same thing as the CIC, and seeing that this company really doesnt do the same thing, I still might. The big difference it looks like is that this company is primarily like questionexchange and such. People ask questions,etc.. and get paid if someone buys it. Primarily in the computer sector. The CIC in Snowcrash delt in literally all forms of information, but primarily in 'intel' in the sense of CIA type intelligence.
I notice that the software is gpl and such. But what about the datafiles? Do we still have to pay 500 dollars to get the data? Or is that going to go up on a FTP site somewhere?
Thats not true at all. One of the main reasons companies incorporate is so the owners cant be held legally liable for anything. Once you incorporate your company can only be held liable for its assets. The officers of the company cant be held accountable for anything the company does. You could sew the company for millions, if they didnt have it, it wouldnt effect the underaged (or anyones) owners credit or anything. Same thing with deals, the corporation is its own entity fully cable of making deals, it acts sorta as an adult. The officer could be 2 years old, doesnt matter.
Only recently have lawsuits tried to whole officers of companies accountable. I seem to remember one about an air plane crash, and the company officials were aware of the defect. This was a case of death though, not financial damage.
I am not sure how to take this. I dont think 'run around' properly describes it. The makes us sound like a bunch of little kids that have been given unlimited access to a candy store. We have legitamate reasons to be there, and that doesnt mean running to all the booths and getting freebies.
You are confused. There is no law stating that you have to be 18 to attend a computer conference , or any conference for that matter. That is something that is controlled by the conference organizers. They came up with the rule that you had to be 18, it is NO LAW. It is as simple as saying 'Come On In..'
Just like him, I am of a similiar age, and have had my company for the last 6 years. Ever since I was little I have sat at a desk with a phone and played a business man. Thats just what I wanted to do. I attend alot of the local conferences, and although they say you must be 18, they always allow me in. Comdex's response suprises me. The reason the have this age limit is so they dont get parents bringing there kids and letting them run around. These conferences must remain at a certain level or professionalism. But exceptions should certainly be made for young entrepenuers that have a legitamate reason for being there.
I will be attending Supercomputing 99 in portland and ITEC. Any other slashdotters going to be at either one of those?
Can anyone point me to another location of that short story mentioned, called "True Names"? It looks pretty cool, I would like to read it.
Score 0? Excuse me, that seems very supporting to me. I think at least it deserves a 2. Why was it marked down?
While I am against large monopolies just as I should be, there are other factors involved with the government just opening up the cable lines. Think of this analogy. You are a farmer, and you have spent years cultivating and building up your farm. Your soil is finally nice, and you are having abundance of crops. What if the government told you that you have to let other farmers use the land with you have nutured for the last few years. Its the same principle. The cable companies have spend many years and millions and millions of dollars to upgrade there networks. Why should they have to let others use there network, if these other people have had no part in building the network in the first place. Its a free ride for these companies that are riding other the cable companies years of hard work. Nothing was stoping these other people from building large fiber networks while the cable company were upgrading theres.
First of all, How could the cops bust them? They do do anything illegal on the show as far as I know.I know Mantis was nervous as hell with the camera around , so he did little more then common unix commands. Second, who says the are hackers in the sense that they go around breaking into computers illegal, and for that reason must hide there identity. Its is alias anyway, Mantis isnt his name. They got the Lopht thing going on, although you could probably find there names alot easier.
Ok, So I dont know anything about security because I cant read your mind? When people use terms as "serious security company" and other terms, its all subject to interpretation. You meaning could mean something completely different then mine, but that doesnt mean I know nothing about security.
I also said now were that certification ment anyting, your putting words into my mouth again. I also agree that certs dont mean anything, and that anyone can get a cert , doesnt mean they know what they are doing.
About his skills and qualifcations. If you want to know more email him, his email is probably on the parse page on www.biztechtv.com. The intention of me writing the comment was not neccesarily to promote his skills, as much as it was to tell me not to judge things by there cover. People had comments all over about how its probably some lame script kiddie, etc.., you really should go off saying such things that you dont know to be true, watch the show, then you can rant on how lame the person is.
You Tell them, I tried to, but maybe they will take you more serious because you are L0pht. I do know how MTV wont air anything technical. They kept telling mantis to rephrase what he was saying in what they call english, phrase it to the MTV audience. So dont exspect technical information. Mantis also told me how you L0pht people called them kiddies, hehe. :)
Actually, Quite literally, he undoubtly has that knowledge and probably more. When I think of hacker, thats what I also think of, not someone who can download all the latest tools and run them, and reads bugtraq and stuff. Is is vary familiar with unit/nt/routing (i think he might even have cisco cert, if not getting it right now), tcp/ip,etc.. And he does do professional security consulting. But really, a serious major company, thats bs. What makes you a good security firm, because you name gets well known. That doesnt mean anything. Anyway, he knows his stuff, and when I mean stuff, I mean what you consider to be true hacker knowledge.
Hey Dave, Whats up? I didnt know you read slashdot.
You guys really dont have a clue who the hacker is in this MTV special, so you really shouldnt judge until you have seen it. Actually, the hacker is a friend of mine named Mantis, from the famed Parse hack/phreak tv show broadcast over the Pseudo Network. He is very skilled, and lectured at SpookTech and demonstrated techniques to government officials. So you can knock on mtv all they want, on the quality of the show, but the hacker knows his shit. He isnt someone who just learned about BO2K or something and installed it. They found him through New York Times article on him and Shamrock's lecture at SpookTech. MTV reads the news also.
To tell the truth though, dont exspect anything extravagent. Mantis felt kinda nervous with a MTV camera man following him around all day, so he didnt do anything besides typing 'ls' and 'cd' on his unix machine all day. The show is actually already online in realvideo, I will post a url later if someone doesnt beat me to it.
I sure hope I am on this list of people. After all my name is in open Sources in the acknowledgements section, which is written by Chris Dibona, which is like VP at VA. They also sent me a nice care package, thank you chris, the nerf gun is elite. Now you can toss in some stock options, ;P.
Thats not true. My Id is 1093, but I was more like one the original 50 or so. I read slashdot since it was chips and dips, long before it was slashdot. When it was on robs original homepage. I just didnt get my account registered until 1093. So its really unfair to some of us, who have been reading alot longer then the people who have ids under 500,1000, whatever..
I wish. Actually, I have not had time to complete the website. If you are interested in purchasing something though, email me for a price quote. We are pretty damned cheap, are are legit unlike those pricewatch companies. Oh ya, we accept credit cards. :)
Awesome. I was just looking for information on how to do this a couple days ago. High quality fresnel lenses from Edmund Scientific arnt really that cheap though.
Umm, You couldnt afford to use this company. This company was started by a ex-Microsoft employee along with someone from Real Networks. There clientel is mainly major record labels. I dont even know if they do that small of volume. Like they did Sony's 250,000 cd archive and digitized it for them. So reall, they are a big professional company that does huge huge orders. There was an article about them in wired, the one about MP3's this summer. July or something. I suggest looking up a media conversion company in your local phonebook. Most do VHS to VCD conversion,and some probably even DVD.
umm, NO!. They have not. Those articles never mentioned anything about the method. They just said that someones domain was taken over, and they didnt know how. There has been no actual reports , especially with details, about mail-from exploiting. There hasnt even been a hacker article. Unless you can provide links of course to someone mentioning mail-from hijacking. And still, I believe it to be a different method then what I know about. The way I am talking about requires no mail relaying, or spoofing of email, no telneting port 25 or anything to do with sending and email until the exploit as already tooken place.
Umm, I am dissappointed. Aparrently no one as found the vulnerability I found around a year ago. Its a real vulnerability, not just weak web based email stuff. Lets just say it has to do with mail-from authentication of domain name changes. I am sure someone will figure it out now.
Hey, Give us slashdot readers the opportunity to buy stocks before anyone else. Exspecially those of us who have been reading since before slashdot, the good ol days of Chips And Dip. Jeff Knox
Umm, on thing about these are they are really bad on your back. If you have ever slept ona recliner or hunched up and read a book in your bed, oyur back hurts not long after you started. Look at the way the guys back is bent in the pictures. Inless you are sitting straight up, like you would in a normal chair, after a short period of time you are going to have some bad back pains. Do this everyday and you are going to be hunched over and crippled when you are older.
If you are refering to the people who did that scan has hackers or common criinals you are a complete ignorant person. They are computer security professionals doing a survey of the internets computer security. Companies do this kind of thing all the time and charge thousands for the results, they just did it free. Lets start arresting every demographics and market research company as well. And what about the company that surveys what web servers are used on the net, are they criminals? If you were not referring to the people who did that scan, then well, ignore everything I said.