Funnily enough, the terrorist nutjob was a big fan of the Dexter series. That has been reported many times. Judging by the copy/paste nature of his so called manifesto, I would not be suprised if he lifted plots from his favourite TV shows as well.
This reminds me of a piece of proprietary software called Miserware. The original license said you needed permission to publish data reported by Miserware. After some rumblings, they issued this e-mail:
Dear MicroMiser beta participant,
Thank you for your involvement in the MicroMiser beta! The response so far has been tremendous and well beyond our expectations. The information we are getting when you run the mw-feedback script is really helping us improve our products and documentation.
The license you agreed to when registering for the beta said you needed permission from MiserWare to publish data reported by our software. We would like to lift this requirement to some extent by allowing you to share performance and power numbers reported by MicroMiser. More precisely our lawyers told us to say it like this:
"You are hereby authorized to disclose information regarding the performance of the MicroMiser software, provided that such information is provided to you in a MicroMiser software report."
This includes any information (including energy savings information) provided by MicroMiser in any of its log files and/or information reported in tools such as the mw-feedback script which reports system specific information to MiserWare thereby aiding future development and earning you points in the incentive program.
Several folks have asked about benchmarking against other power management software. With regard to benchmarking, we want to clarify the intent of the license. Our intent was not to preclude benchmarking altogether, but to ensure the measurement methodology is fair to all parties. More precisely, our lawyers told us to paste both permissions together:
"You are hereby authorized to disclose information regarding the performance of the MicroMiser software, (i) provided that such information is provided to you in a MicroMiser software report, or (ii) provided that such information is obtained using techniques approved in writing by MiserWare."
There is no need for you to sign another license agreement as these clarifications simply give you additional permissions under the original license.
These clarifications are the result of your feedback. Please continue to send your comments to feedback@miserware.com . We promise to keep listening.
Regards,
MiserWare
Good thing they have lawyers, huh? Needless to say, I thought about it for a millisecond, and realized I could live without this particular piece of software.
I think you're missing the point. Check up on what free software commentators have been spending their last 3-4 weeks on. Not only are the devs behing F-spot, Beagle, Gnome Do and Tomboy getting side tracked, a big chunk of the FLOSS community are too, getting absorbed in this endless discussion. If you think that topics not directly related to their projects are not eating into the 24 hrs that every day of a distro developer consists of, think again.
Interesting, compared to this which has been his comment earlier. Nice to see RMS give the Mono haters more fuel to their flame wars, so that developers can get tangled up in endless discussions about this in stead of actually hacking away. Again, this is one of the reasons GNU/Linux is not gaining more than it does. All MS needs to do in order to keep hackers busy not making great software (and cloning already great C# apps instead), is issue some kind of new vague statement on the nature of.NET. Then, we all lose. Like we've been doing since day 1. Nice. Thanks. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
Partly correct. It's usually that, but 14% on food that you take away. (Meant for making groceries cheaper, but actually also applies to take away food and coffee.) Cultural things (like going to the movies) are 8%.
I sure hope you base your decision on more than that. Otherwise I'd be anti every type of programming language, because of the bugs I've seen in various applications. I personally think F-spot sucks bigtime, so I don't use it. I think other applications like Gnome Do and Tomboy are great. So, your gripe with F-spot is not necessarily due to Mono, but could very well be due to poor use of it.
I made a slight mistake in my spelling, so I can understand some of the confusion. Gnote calls them "add-ins". My Norwegian translation of Tomboy calls them "Tillegg", which is the same word used to describe Firefox addons/extension. They're not extensions like you're used to in Firefox, but features you can turn off or on, that comes with the app.
You wrote: "Gnote is a line by line clone of Tomboy from C# to C++. Even the GUI is exactly the same."
It is not. Tomboy offers features that Gnote does not. The fact that an actual clone is worked upon does not mean it's here. You are telling me Gnote is incomplete, which it is. The reasons for lacking features are largely irrelevant to the user.
Thanks for including a coherent and actually interesting view of what this whole thing is about. Screaming "M$ are trying to pwn us!111!!" like so many seem to be doing is not a valid argument, and you sir, take a different path, and I commend you for doing so.
If it lacks some features it is hardly a line by line clone, is it? The source for my claim can easily be your acceptance of the fact that Tomboy has features that Gnote is lacking. The fact that someone is working on it doesn't mean anythin, the feature simply isn't there for me to use.
Judging an app by what it *might* do in the future is hardly a good procedure for including the app in a default install. If Gnote is the better app in the future, then, by all means, substitute the two.
It is not a line by line clone. A small count: Tomboy has 13 addons that comes with the app, Gnote has 6. For one, Gnote does not have any synchronization addons.
I just did an apt-get update on my Ubuntu install. Right before, I checked my e-mail. Does any other slashdotters have nice anecdotes from their computing day? Has anyone opened a document or did a uname or anything that will interest us? I'll be waiting!
Last I read, Gnote doesn't have the same feature set as Tomboy, so that might have an impact on the size of the thing, although you're already comapring apples to oranges when you add in Tomboy deps with the install size. Also, the amount of disk space an app uses doesn't really tell you anything about how much other resources it actually uses. Some anecdotal evidence for the ricers out there: I have Tomboy running all of the time, and there is no difference in battery life with Tomboy running or not. That gives some idea that this is not a power sucking devil of an application it is made out to be.
When taking a stand towards something, I find it sometimes useful to look at the people being very for or against. Viewing some of the comments from anti Mono people like this, makes in itself a good case for being sceptical towards the anti crowd in this case.
To me, GNU/Linux is not a handful of fledgling arms and tinfoil hats, and that is excactly what I see from a lot of the anti Mono people.
Back in my Fedora Core 2 or 3 days, I had a Dell Inspiron 9300 (?) with some kind of bug that required me to wiggle my mouse, otherwise the network connection would stop completely. Solution: Install Ubuntu. Haven't looked back much since.
On the fun side, it made me feel like I could physically speed up or slow down my network, but that was only fun for 2 minutes.
So you actually thought that an upcoming release of IE with Firefox extension support, multiple rendering engines, full CS3 support, and an entirely rewritten javascript engine, all by this summer, sounded reasonable?
Now, now, don't be so sure. You know what they say about monkeys and the works of Shakespeare? Maybe the monkeys finally has had enough time, and are ready to replace the former MS developers.
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Funnily enough, the terrorist nutjob was a big fan of the Dexter series. That has been reported many times. Judging by the copy/paste nature of his so called manifesto, I would not be suprised if he lifted plots from his favourite TV shows as well.
http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/djp415v1
How great! Are they in Second Life as well? I might start checking that out to say hello.
This reminds me of a piece of proprietary software called Miserware. The original license said you needed permission to publish data reported by Miserware. After some rumblings, they issued this e-mail:
Dear MicroMiser beta participant,
Thank you for your involvement in the MicroMiser beta! The response so far has been tremendous and well beyond our expectations. The information we are getting when you run the mw-feedback script is really helping us improve our products and documentation.
The license you agreed to when registering for the beta said you needed permission from MiserWare to publish data reported by our software. We would like to lift this requirement to some extent by allowing you to share performance and power numbers reported by MicroMiser. More precisely our lawyers told us to say it like this:
"You are hereby authorized to disclose information regarding the performance of the MicroMiser software, provided that such information is provided to you in a MicroMiser software report."
This includes any information (including energy savings information) provided by MicroMiser in any of its log files and/or information reported in tools such as the mw-feedback script which reports system specific information to MiserWare thereby aiding future development and earning you points in the incentive program.
Several folks have asked about benchmarking against other power management software. With regard to benchmarking, we want to clarify the intent of the license. Our intent was not to preclude benchmarking altogether, but to ensure the measurement methodology is fair to all parties. More precisely, our lawyers told us to paste both permissions together:
"You are hereby authorized to disclose information regarding the performance of the MicroMiser software, (i) provided that such information is provided to you in a MicroMiser software report, or (ii) provided that such information is obtained using techniques approved in writing by MiserWare."
There is no need for you to sign another license agreement as these clarifications simply give you additional permissions under the original license.
These clarifications are the result of your feedback. Please continue to send your comments to feedback@miserware.com . We promise to keep listening.
Regards,
MiserWare
Good thing they have lawyers, huh? Needless to say, I thought about it for a millisecond, and realized I could live without this particular piece of software.
I agree. Move this crap out, or tag it "typoinsummary"
I think you're missing the point. Check up on what free software commentators have been spending their last 3-4 weeks on. Not only are the devs behing F-spot, Beagle, Gnome Do and Tomboy getting side tracked, a big chunk of the FLOSS community are too, getting absorbed in this endless discussion. If you think that topics not directly related to their projects are not eating into the 24 hrs that every day of a distro developer consists of, think again.
That was supposed to be the judicial paragraph sign, but it was screwed up...
No, it's RMÂ
Interesting, compared to this which has been his comment earlier. Nice to see RMS give the Mono haters more fuel to their flame wars, so that developers can get tangled up in endless discussions about this in stead of actually hacking away. Again, this is one of the reasons GNU/Linux is not gaining more than it does. All MS needs to do in order to keep hackers busy not making great software (and cloning already great C# apps instead), is issue some kind of new vague statement on the nature of .NET. Then, we all lose. Like we've been doing since day 1. Nice. Thanks. With friends like these, who needs enemies?
Taxes; it's 25% VAT IIRC
Partly correct. It's usually that, but 14% on food that you take away. (Meant for making groceries cheaper, but actually also applies to take away food and coffee.) Cultural things (like going to the movies) are 8%.
I sure hope you base your decision on more than that. Otherwise I'd be anti every type of programming language, because of the bugs I've seen in various applications. I personally think F-spot sucks bigtime, so I don't use it. I think other applications like Gnome Do and Tomboy are great. So, your gripe with F-spot is not necessarily due to Mono, but could very well be due to poor use of it.
I made a slight mistake in my spelling, so I can understand some of the confusion. Gnote calls them "add-ins". My Norwegian translation of Tomboy calls them "Tillegg", which is the same word used to describe Firefox addons/extension. They're not extensions like you're used to in Firefox, but features you can turn off or on, that comes with the app.
It's not a third party addon, it's a feature you can enable or disable that is an integrated part of Tomboy.
You wrote: "Gnote is a line by line clone of Tomboy from C# to C++. Even the GUI is exactly the same."
It is not. Tomboy offers features that Gnote does not. The fact that an actual clone is worked upon does not mean it's here. You are telling me Gnote is incomplete, which it is. The reasons for lacking features are largely irrelevant to the user.
Thanks for including a coherent and actually interesting view of what this whole thing is about. Screaming "M$ are trying to pwn us!111!!" like so many seem to be doing is not a valid argument, and you sir, take a different path, and I commend you for doing so.
If it lacks some features it is hardly a line by line clone, is it? The source for my claim can easily be your acceptance of the fact that Tomboy has features that Gnote is lacking. The fact that someone is working on it doesn't mean anythin, the feature simply isn't there for me to use.
Judging an app by what it *might* do in the future is hardly a good procedure for including the app in a default install. If Gnote is the better app in the future, then, by all means, substitute the two.
It is not a line by line clone. A small count: Tomboy has 13 addons that comes with the app, Gnote has 6. For one, Gnote does not have any synchronization addons.
Stallman did comment on Mono, and it's not necessarily what one would expect: See?
I just did an apt-get update on my Ubuntu install. Right before, I checked my e-mail. Does any other slashdotters have nice anecdotes from their computing day? Has anyone opened a document or did a uname or anything that will interest us? I'll be waiting!
Last I read, Gnote doesn't have the same feature set as Tomboy, so that might have an impact on the size of the thing, although you're already comapring apples to oranges when you add in Tomboy deps with the install size. Also, the amount of disk space an app uses doesn't really tell you anything about how much other resources it actually uses. Some anecdotal evidence for the ricers out there: I have Tomboy running all of the time, and there is no difference in battery life with Tomboy running or not. That gives some idea that this is not a power sucking devil of an application it is made out to be.
When taking a stand towards something, I find it sometimes useful to look at the people being very for or against. Viewing some of the comments from anti Mono people like this, makes in itself a good case for being sceptical towards the anti crowd in this case.
To me, GNU/Linux is not a handful of fledgling arms and tinfoil hats, and that is excactly what I see from a lot of the anti Mono people.
I'm pretty sure no human, mental or not, is able to open the door. Too lazy to list the evidence right now though.
Back in my Fedora Core 2 or 3 days, I had a Dell Inspiron 9300 (?) with some kind of bug that required me to wiggle my mouse, otherwise the network connection would stop completely. Solution: Install Ubuntu. Haven't looked back much since.
On the fun side, it made me feel like I could physically speed up or slow down my network, but that was only fun for 2 minutes.
Thanks you for pointing me to that!
Now, now, don't be so sure. You know what they say about monkeys and the works of Shakespeare? Maybe the monkeys finally has had enough time, and are ready to replace the former MS developers.