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Breaking the Codes In Oslo Terrorist's Manifesto
repvik writes "The 1500-page manifesto of the terrorist who killed 77 people in Oslo and on Utøya two weeks ago contains a series of seemingly encrypted URLs. There are 46 of them, and the initial part of the URLs appear to be GPS coordinates. An effort to analyze the codes have been launched."
they all lead to goatse
Why is this being made public? If this points to conspirator's or other sensitive information, shouldn't this have been quietly handed to the police so that they don't tip their hand?
The 1500 page manifest of terrorist
Wow, that must be a lot of terrorists if it takes a 1500 page manifest to list them all!
Information theory is life. The rest is just the KL divergence.
"an effort to analyse the codes ***HAS*** been launched"
Grammar people, come on....
My guess is that when he entered strings like this into his wordprocessor
52.068.4.309plusf24:KWimfhh436383717863
That it interpreted the numbers as IPv4 addresses and prepended http:/// onto it. If someone can verify then that part of the "mystery" is solved. It has nothing to do with URLs.
Better known as 318230.
Here's the problem:
If i had a grudge against humans, or a certain set of humans, or something really stupid like that and I wanted to do something that will get me remembered, for whatever reason, in the history of man, I'd do some crap just like this. Make up a "manifesto" of probably gibberish, encyrpted and whatnot, so peeps would spend many hours of discussion and get me remembered.
So do we think we'll get a better understanding of the dude who killed those people by figuring out his stupid manifesto? And that will help his victims how exactly? I mean, i'm sure their families are probably helping figure this manifesto out and twitting it to all their friends. (yes, i'm being fucking sarcastic here).
Crazy people are, well, crazy. It doesn't matter their reason for doing stuff like killing people. That shit ain't cool, and shouldn't be going on, no matter the reason. But very little we will do, will stop the crazies from doing the crazy shit.
Sometimes there are signs, and sometime we recognize crazy before crazy gets killing. But most the time, we don't. We don't realize that crazy is just under the skin of that person we talk shit to all the time. We don't realize that everyone has crazy in them, and sometimes, the littlest things set crazy off.
Of course, i could be wrong. This murder might have the answer to life, the universe and everything in his manifesto. And even if it did, it's not worth our time trying to find out. Dude went out and killed a bunch of people to get attention for his manifesto and here people are, giving it attention.
what dude did worked, and your showing that to every wanna be "terrorist" with a grudge against something and a chip on their shoulder, that if you want attention, kill some peeps and you'll get it.
Be seeing you...
The coordinates lead to a series of buried stashes of porn, kleenex and hand lotion. He's been preparing for the end of the world for years.
From the link:
> Send an email to manifest-analysis-request@analysis.no.net with the word "subscribe" in the body text (not subject) to participate.
I guess the good ol' Majordomo is being revived. Can't wait to see if they also setup a webring or at least put up a guestbook that I could sign!
lucm, indeed.
1. Microsoft's file formats are well-known for being very messy and hard to parse. .pdf or .html or something more reasonable to help ensure a wider readership / distribution.
2. Word itself is known for strange, bizarre, and undesirable things to your formatting.
3. The killer wasn't smart or sensible enough to convert his manifesto to
4. The killer didn't know how to use BCC to hide the addresses of his ~1000 or so recipients (Possibly he WANTED his recipient list public, but I see no reason why in particular he would. If anything, he ought to have hidden it, if any members of his 'cell' were among the recipients).
So my own personal armchair analysis of all this is that they're chasing phantoms here.
B.E.S.U.R.E.T.O.D.R.I.N.K.Y.O.U.R.O.V.A.L.T.I.N.E.
and, to accommodate Slashdot's filters...
b.e.s.u.r.e.t.o.d.r.i.n.k.y.o.u.r.o.v.a.l.t.i.n.e.
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It's a cookbook!
I'll wait for the movie.
Too soon?
"People don't want to learn linux" hasn't been a valid excuse since '03.
he's jealous of how often Julian Assange was described as a Bond villain.
Looks like it's Oystein, (a.k.a. edison) in charge of the operation. He's one sharp cookie and has been in the Norweigan scene for decades. I remember how fun we he was 20 yrs ago. xD I'm sure it will be solved soon.
I don't understand how two fags can make the same dumb attempt at a joke only a minute apart.
What do you call and Alternate Reality Game that takes place in real reality?
is collect a group of xkcd readers and "House of Leaves" obsessives. They'd figure it out in about three days.
While I applaud the effort to track down potential threats from such a long document, I am curious if it was really a safe thing to do.
A quick glance showed a lot of information on topics that I would consider to be terrorist related activities. I seen mention of making bombs, hiding stuff, and even mention of ricin, which my understanding is a poison. So I wonder, is it really safe to make information like this publically available knowing full well that hundreds of thousands of people will potentially download this information and use it for god knows what purpose?
My guess is that he is the type of person who had no actual affiliations, but was hoping to disseminate this information to try to reach out to a small few individuals who might share a common hatred for life, and use the information in the articles to carry out similar atrocities. In other words, further bad things may happen as a result of sharing this information.
Oh well, the points are moot not that it has already been shared. Hope you figure it out guys, gl.
I am sure that this will be lost time. Worse. Spending time with his manifesto is exactly the thing, the killer wants us to do. He is not worth the time and effort, his manifesto is also not worth it.
The murders were his PR campaign. Don't fall for it. I know that a "damnation memoriae" will not work, but don't help a killer with additional attention.
I don't want to know about his childhood, i am not interested in his home stories, i don't want to see his pictures or see his manifesto publicly discussed.
If you want to spend time, do it for his victims. What where their dreams, ideas, visions? Try to use your words to keep their memory alive, not some sick bastards.
Yours, Martin
Breyvik is a guy with a grudge, who clearly is capable of planning ahead. He is oh so cooperative, tells the police about another cell (didn't say there are many, because that would be unbelievable). He was also willing to do another thing, but a few requirements would have to be met. Most of them were very reasonable, but one of them the police could/would not accommodate for. How inconvenient! Breyvik smart; police stupid. He has a manifesto with codes in them. The manifesto is 1500 pages or so. That will keep the police occupied! And there are codes in them. Oh, brilliant, that will keep the police occupied even longer. And the police is blamed already for not preventing all this, they are not going to leave stone unturned. Blaming the police is stupid. It is like those slashdotters that pride themselves in having a gun to defend themselves, but wouldn't go home to get it if a felon stabbed a knife in their back on the street to get their wallet. The police could never have prevented it. Politics could have closed the alley. That's it. And he would have found another target. Don't give Breyvik power even while he's in custody, so don't spend time on the codes. At best they are real but just tell something mysterious that can be interpreted in more ways, costing more police effort. Just punish him for the terrorist act and the murders.
Bert
And I don't understand how two fags can simultaneously come up with calculus.
These links could also be links to locations in games or virtual worlds like WoW. We know the killer was very active on the Silvermoon WoW server up till 2008 and thane took a 2 year pause to return in 2010. He might have been active in other games too.
Perhaps some gamers in the audience will recognize these links?
Chicken wing?
Some excerpts from this nauseating, yet derivative, "manifesto":
Don't even need to read the rest, really.
Sheesh, don't bother going to the trouble. You've got the killer, just try a little waterboarding and save the time and money.
That is not the Norwegian way. Norwegians are a people of honor, who won't stoop to the level of the evildoers in order to fight evil. The reaction to the deed was one of sorrow, reflection and (and this is hard to understand for outsiders) love and openness instead of hatred and retaliation. In the days after the attack, the prime minister and mayor of Oslo walked around in public with less protection than before, precisely to show that the terrorist would not win by changing Norway for the worse.
In polls, Norwegians are overwhelmingly against the death penalty, torture and revenge, and more so now after the UtÃya tragedy. Norwegians want to distance themselves from everything the perpetrator stood for, and retaliate by doing the opposite of what Mr Breivik thought he would achieve.
The great majority of Norwegians want him to have the same rights as any other accused, and be judged and sentenced for what he did in a fair trial, and not risk jeopardizing justice by the police overstepping their limits. If the police can torture Mr Breivik today, they can torture you tomorrow. Punish him by exposing him to a fairness he never showed others. He will have plenty of time to reflect on how what he did hurt his cause, due to Norwegians being Norwegians, and not Americans.
I've read some of his book. I won't finish it (not enough time in my life), but it's worth reading at least the first couple chapters and skimming the rest. It's scary to do because you'll find that it's not "incoherent ramblings" as the media tells you - quite a bit of it is eloquently written (I suspect it's stitched together from multiple sources) and presents some decent arguments. I'm pretty far to the socialist side, and he's hard-right, but I agree with some of what he's saying, even if I think the conclusion that he reaches (that it's time for Europe to rise up against the oppression of the current ideological regime) is bunk.
This tragedy isn't caused by simple Crazy. An important ingredient is Ideology. To prevent future killings in this form - lone wolf, keeping a low profile - you have to fight the ideological reasons that drive them to do such a thing.
The amount of Crazy this takes is not Batshit Insane. It's a lack of critical thinking about the flaws in their ideology, the conclusions they've reached, and the worth of the actions they will undertake; nurtured a supportive environment which will encourage his thoughts; but still enough sanity for long-term planning and preparation without raising red flags.
Police work does not find these types. Some idiots will fuck up and get caught, but there are lots of people out there who are lacking in the critical thinking department. Some will always slip through.
The way you defend against this is not to brush him off as Crazy; but rather to dive into his mind and try to understand what drove him to kill 77 people. And once you do, you, a rational thinker, need to talk with other people who may hold radical ideologies and help them to understand where the flaws in their beliefs are before the real Crazy takes hold and they start shooting.
And you can't until you let yourself really understand his ideas, rather than just getting the two sentence blurbs. Know - deeply, intellectually - your enemy.
Goodness me, who would actually read 1500 pages of lunatic ravings?
https://www.xkcd.com/538/
Well, except for all those calling for more gun control, even though given how methodical this ratfucker was all the gun laws in the world wouldn't have changed the outcome. Although to be fair from what I've found on the matter more calls for increased gun control seem to be coming from Sweden than Norway, which is rather amusing.
They are wifi hotspot coordinates with login info. Are they really that dumb to not see this?
obviously
http://www.awfullybigmoustache.com
How is that amusing?
we've read enuff of his "chemisty diary & howTo" bits to guess that (maybe) he's american or a follower of that culture.
very few grammar errors, ie, until the final section(s), likely written on too little sleep.
could this be a redacted ver?
It's a fair time ago, but IIRC some rabble-rouser took time off from fitting kitchens to try that. And then a few hundred years later some camel-riding bandit did a similar thing. People are still arguing about what they meant, and whether they were part of the same organisation.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
It took 0 seconds to realize ip-numbers were out of the question and another 2 seconds to realize it could be coordinates and 5 more to see they map to urban areas.
But ask geocachers to take a look at it. They're quite good with coordinates and obfuscating them.
Since some of the locations are in the middle of the street, it would make sense that the coordinate also needs to be translated.
The Cyrillic for instance could contain information for this translation. Try adding the 0x402-0x428 to the coordinates. See if you end up with more "logical" locations.
What do these footnotes belong to? Quotes? Could they refer to people? Would be rather stupid, but then again, killing 77 people is also insane, so who knows.
Privacy is terrorism.
A PROBLEM is there to be solved.
A puzzle is there to confuse and distract.
Sometimes, puzzles are good training for problem solving, more often than not they are simply a time-killing device.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
Be very very careful with thinking this guys was 'crazy' or a 'loon' or 'insane'...
He was anything but. He was very convinced about being right, highly intelligent, well read, and well versed.
Dismissing him as a 'crazy person' is extremely dangerous, since that will never allow you to actually find out why he did this.
There are a lot of people that have the same ideas he has, a lot of them even publicly. The fact he decided to take violent action based on that idea is something to reflect on, not something you should push aside as 'crazy'
Coz eternity my friend, is a long *ing time.
but then, in our socialistik world, there will be no need for 1337 codebrakers... :D
I've yet to see any significant amount of people calling for gun control, we already have a pretty efficient system.
-- Linux user #369862
What ever happened to crazy? Maybe the clues in the manifesto are gibberish.
If I killed a bunch of politically engaged young people my blogs, interests and probably even the code I write would be analysed. And they would probably link my nazi-like code-style and warnings template to sociopathic behavior and end up stating that everyone who read whatever I wrote should have seen it coming.
Come on people, he's crazy and we are wasting valuable resources on looking at his work. Let the people do their moarning in peace.
how high the position is. meaning, in the area that is given in the gps, they should check if there is a building at the specific height, and that is the building that is marked.
this way ,they could mark specific buildings , to get accuracy of building and not 100*50 meters.
or may be sea level height.
The reaction to the deed was one of sorrow, reflection and (and this is hard to understand for outsiders) love and openness instead of hatred and retaliation.
I lol'ed at the irony of there being overt racism in this sentence.
It's sad and disgusting[1] that we Americans didn't learn the same lesson from our troubles that you Norwegians did.
[1] Especially given that the same people who want torture and more "security" are often the same ones who wharrgarbl about the USA being a Christian country, or at least call themselves Christian and make a big deal about the Constitution.
Hail Eris, full of mischief...
E pluribus sanguinem
Actually, throwing this poisoned meat out to the dog may be further destruction, not that it is simply a killer-sourced "narrative" established that people will re-ignite interest for many years, but the act of digging up "clues" may disrupt innocent people's lives. For example, what if I named unspecified correspondence with Michele Bachmann as the main reason why I justified going berserk? Her privacy would be invaded and her name besmirched all as a continuing attack by me for years, if not decades. I would lol all the way through prison and you would be my simple tools.
My chemo has worked
https://www.xkcd.com/931/
We both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
more calls for increased gun control seem to be coming from Sweden than Norway
And from Finland. Funnily, the public debate doesn't involve shortening the response times and capability of the police force.
"Not Norwegian" is not a race.
Well as the dude claimed to be a Templar, I think we know what's being hidden at those coordinates.
Christians are hateful ignorant nutters.
Armed christians are hateful ignorant nutters with guns... what could possibly go wrong?
I'd even thought it was meant like "people not living in Norway" (regardless of whether Norwegian or not)
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Looks like one of the coordinates is for Tottenham, London.
Could it have been a warning ?
Don't the investigators have access to the computer he assembled his "Breivick's Big Book of Crazy - (With Pictures!)"?