Well if you bought a Mac and expected to run Windows apps out of the box, you're frankly a moron and should research your purchases better. Start with going to "Apple.com".
Chances are TekSavvy is going to be a TELUS CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier), so it will still be TELUS ADSL service. If I'm not mistaken, this is how TekSavvy works out east, except running on Bell. TekSavvy likely has better customer service than any of the incumbants, but the actual service itself will be identical.
How is a problem that can be fixed with a reinstall "bricking" a mac? Bricking is when you permanently ruin something! I agree the problem is bad but it isnt that bad!
Huh? I'm signed into MSN with a Gmail address as we speak, talking to a friend that also uses a gmail address in MSN. Sounds like an error between the keyboard and mouse to me.
While I can certainly see why there would be concerned about privacy, saying that this is what happens when they do a deal with Google makes you look like a moron. Sky is the one who botched the migration, and it was solely Sky's responsibility to insure that something like this didn't happen with THEIR customers. There is no way Google could've prevented this.
My experience is the same. I found that when Gmail was new, many people switched relatively quickly. (About 10% of my address book). After the initial influx, I only see the occasional person switch to Gmail. In-fact, in the last year, the only people in my address book that have switched have done so on my recommendation so I could get out of doing unpaid tech support for them fixing their ISP accounts:-P
As an aside, Google should begin advertising their new IMAP service more, as it allows people to use their same client but take it anywhere with them and switch isp services at ease. If they do that though, they should make their imap service faster than molasses before doing so.
I'm using a Macbook, using a logitech keyboard and targus laptop mouse, I occasionally hook it up to an LG monitor, I use a D-link router and have a Gmail account.
the original lawsuit was filed back in june, and the amended complaint filed in august. WHY is this on Slashdot's front page?
Zonk is like the employee that spends half his day with his feet on his desk, and the other half doing the bare minimum amount of work required to keep his job. Has he never heard of Google? A quick search would have revealed that.
Point taken, although in my mind if an ISP is unable to provide full-service to even a small minority of their customers, the full service they are ADVERTISING, they should be forced to alter their advertising to state exactly what they can actually deliver.
See that? That's my point flying 10 feet over your head.
You see, when the original poster said "where I come from", that tends to mean that everyone where he "comes from" (I'm unaware of anyone who was born in Usenet, correct me if I'm wrong) downloads FLAC files, which represent a small minority of the actual files traded online.
I was being a smart-ass. I apologize if you had difficulty figuring this out. But please do try harder again next time.
Well then you weren't using a vanilla install or you're on crack, so which is it? I have a vanilla install of XP on my Macbook, and I installed VLC Media player to play DVDs because Windows Media Player simply doesn't support it. It will support it IF a third-party player installed on the system provides the required codec, but otherwise it will not. Which media players did you have installed?
The CODEC problem has absolutely NOTHING to do with the "MAFIAA", but instead has everything to do with the various companies that own patents on the codecs, such as Microsoft. The "MAFIAA" doesn't give 2 shits if you play WMV files on your Linux box....won't affect their DRM infested crap anyways.
You're joking right? The high-end of consumer accounts for my ISP is 25MB/s down in Canada. I knew there was a divide, but I didn't think it was so big that our consumer services dwarfed your business services. Does Comcast have any decent speed offerings?
Of course, most people won't actually use the full-speed, but yeah.
Bullshit. Canadian ISPs all publish their limits. Despite that, AND a lower population density by a factor of 10, we STILL have faster internet than the US, and are higher than the US in terms of broadband penetration. I can name the limits of my ISP, which is the DOMINANT one in my area, off the top of my head (60GB, 100GB and 160GB depending on package). They're lying to you. Canada doesn't have broadband fairies, we merely have stricter laws which still haven't stopped the ISPs from raking in handsome profits in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
Ummm, with all due respect, that is downright stupid. What in the hell does the prevailing standard in CDs (a PHYSICAL FORMAT) have to do with the prevailing format for DIGITAL DOWNLOADS, which is MP3s. You're comparing Apples to Oranges.
Please explain most other western countries then, where bandwidth limits are published. The two main telcos in my area in Canada are constantly upping their bandwidth, and making a BIG DEAL out of it so as to compete with each other. Neither of them are going bankrupt...in-fact, they are both still making a handsome profit. Shaw offers more than TELUS, and they plaster the limits all over their product comparisons so that people KNOW the limits.
Mod parent up. The explanation of the grand-parent, that GB is too technical, may be the actual reason, but is still downright ridiculous. As I've said elsewhere in this discussion, Canadian ISPs publish their limits in GB, and some also AFTERWARDS provide analogies to songs or pictures.
Hell, Apple, the king of simple, does this. Apple provides an estimate of how many songs or video their iPods will hold, but right there on the back, and on the box, is the precise amount of storage. This is Apple, a company that simplifies their marketing materials so much it sometimes makes my head hurt.
Comcast is being deceitful and dishonest, end of story.
If, after having this controversy brew for years, Comcast's PR department still doesn't get it, they do, in-fact, need a new PR department.
Canadian ISP's publish precisely what the limit is, and my ISP, Shaw, even provides graphs update bi-hourly showing your exact MTD usage down to the MB, so you know almost exactly how much is remaining for the month. I merely go to http://secure.shaw.ca/ , type in my account info, and I can view them. They, directly on their product page, give the exact difference between download caps between their different offerings, with the lowest one having 60GB a month, and the highest having 160GB (the middle one has 100GB).
I've also gone up to 10% over on a few months, and even then they didn't do anything.
Furthermore, most of the people whom I've talked to (which is many considering I work for a Canadian ISP) don't know what their bandwidth cap is, and don't come CLOSE to using it. This isn't surprising, considering most customers use the internet primarily for web browsing/online shopping, MSN (MSN is easily the most dominant IM service in Canada), gaming and music sharing. Movie sharing is still relatively limited and not used by most people, and any video service outside of Youtube has a rather limited reach.
Slashdot readers may use a whole giant crap-load of bandwidth, but the vast majority of the other 99.99% of the population don't use all that much.
When services like Joost and other HD services that use bittorrent, or even ones that don't, become more pervasive and mainstream, thus bringing higher bandwidth usage to most consumers....then the ISP's are gonna be having problems. Right now though, any fears that people will intentionally use up all of their bandwidth are, quite frankly, ridiculous.
Quote: "Justice Konrad von Finckenstein ruled Wednesday that the Canadian Recording Industry Association did not prove there was copyright infringement by 29 so-called music uploaders. He said that downloading a song or making files available in shared directories, like those on Kazaa, does not constitute copyright infringement under the current Canadian law."
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Well if you bought a Mac and expected to run Windows apps out of the box, you're frankly a moron and should research your purchases better. Start with going to "Apple.com".
Oh, and of course TekSavvy could still compete on price.
Chances are TekSavvy is going to be a TELUS CLEC (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier), so it will still be TELUS ADSL service. If I'm not mistaken, this is how TekSavvy works out east, except running on Bell. TekSavvy likely has better customer service than any of the incumbants, but the actual service itself will be identical.
How is a problem that can be fixed with a reinstall "bricking" a mac? Bricking is when you permanently ruin something! I agree the problem is bad but it isnt that bad!
erm.... Error between keyboard and mouse? What am I smoking here? Meant to say between the chair and keyboard :-P
Huh? I'm signed into MSN with a Gmail address as we speak, talking to a friend that also uses a gmail address in MSN. Sounds like an error between the keyboard and mouse to me.
While I can certainly see why there would be concerned about privacy, saying that this is what happens when they do a deal with Google makes you look like a moron. Sky is the one who botched the migration, and it was solely Sky's responsibility to insure that something like this didn't happen with THEIR customers. There is no way Google could've prevented this.
My experience is the same. I found that when Gmail was new, many people switched relatively quickly. (About 10% of my address book). After the initial influx, I only see the occasional person switch to Gmail. In-fact, in the last year, the only people in my address book that have switched have done so on my recommendation so I could get out of doing unpaid tech support for them fixing their ISP accounts :-P
As an aside, Google should begin advertising their new IMAP service more, as it allows people to use their same client but take it anywhere with them and switch isp services at ease. If they do that though, they should make their imap service faster than molasses before doing so.
Do us Canadians get a say as to whether nukes get fired over us?
I'm using a Macbook, using a logitech keyboard and targus laptop mouse, I occasionally hook it up to an LG monitor, I use a D-link router and have a Gmail account.
the original lawsuit was filed back in june, and the amended complaint filed in august. WHY is this on Slashdot's front page?
Zonk is like the employee that spends half his day with his feet on his desk, and the other half doing the bare minimum amount of work required to keep his job. Has he never heard of Google? A quick search would have revealed that.
http://www.eff.org/cases/lenz-v-universal
Point taken, although in my mind if an ISP is unable to provide full-service to even a small minority of their customers, the full service they are ADVERTISING, they should be forced to alter their advertising to state exactly what they can actually deliver.
See that? That's my point flying 10 feet over your head.
You see, when the original poster said "where I come from", that tends to mean that everyone where he "comes from" (I'm unaware of anyone who was born in Usenet, correct me if I'm wrong) downloads FLAC files, which represent a small minority of the actual files traded online.
I was being a smart-ass. I apologize if you had difficulty figuring this out. But please do try harder again next time.
Well then you weren't using a vanilla install or you're on crack, so which is it? I have a vanilla install of XP on my Macbook, and I installed VLC Media player to play DVDs because Windows Media Player simply doesn't support it. It will support it IF a third-party player installed on the system provides the required codec, but otherwise it will not. Which media players did you have installed?
Re-read the part of the text you quoted 20 times over please and thank you.
The CODEC problem has absolutely NOTHING to do with the "MAFIAA", but instead has everything to do with the various companies that own patents on the codecs, such as Microsoft. The "MAFIAA" doesn't give 2 shits if you play WMV files on your Linux box....won't affect their DRM infested crap anyways.
You're joking right? The high-end of consumer accounts for my ISP is 25MB/s down in Canada. I knew there was a divide, but I didn't think it was so big that our consumer services dwarfed your business services. Does Comcast have any decent speed offerings?
Of course, most people won't actually use the full-speed, but yeah.
Bullshit. Canadian ISPs all publish their limits. Despite that, AND a lower population density by a factor of 10, we STILL have faster internet than the US, and are higher than the US in terms of broadband penetration. I can name the limits of my ISP, which is the DOMINANT one in my area, off the top of my head (60GB, 100GB and 160GB depending on package). They're lying to you. Canada doesn't have broadband fairies, we merely have stricter laws which still haven't stopped the ISPs from raking in handsome profits in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
Ummmm, whoops, didn't notice ur sarcasm tag. Yep...I'm a moron. Ignore me. Mod my post down please.
Ummm, with all due respect, that is downright stupid. What in the hell does the prevailing standard in CDs (a PHYSICAL FORMAT) have to do with the prevailing format for DIGITAL DOWNLOADS, which is MP3s. You're comparing Apples to Oranges.
Please explain most other western countries then, where bandwidth limits are published. The two main telcos in my area in Canada are constantly upping their bandwidth, and making a BIG DEAL out of it so as to compete with each other. Neither of them are going bankrupt...in-fact, they are both still making a handsome profit. Shaw offers more than TELUS, and they plaster the limits all over their product comparisons so that people KNOW the limits.
Mod parent up. The explanation of the grand-parent, that GB is too technical, may be the actual reason, but is still downright ridiculous. As I've said elsewhere in this discussion, Canadian ISPs publish their limits in GB, and some also AFTERWARDS provide analogies to songs or pictures.
Hell, Apple, the king of simple, does this. Apple provides an estimate of how many songs or video their iPods will hold, but right there on the back, and on the box, is the precise amount of storage. This is Apple, a company that simplifies their marketing materials so much it sometimes makes my head hurt.
Comcast is being deceitful and dishonest, end of story.
If, after having this controversy brew for years, Comcast's PR department still doesn't get it, they do, in-fact, need a new PR department.
Where you come from you download songs in FLAC format, and not MP3's? Where is this mystical land of the geeks you speak of? :-P
Canadian ISP's publish precisely what the limit is, and my ISP, Shaw, even provides graphs update bi-hourly showing your exact MTD usage down to the MB, so you know almost exactly how much is remaining for the month. I merely go to http://secure.shaw.ca/ , type in my account info, and I can view them. They, directly on their product page, give the exact difference between download caps between their different offerings, with the lowest one having 60GB a month, and the highest having 160GB (the middle one has 100GB).
I've also gone up to 10% over on a few months, and even then they didn't do anything.
Furthermore, most of the people whom I've talked to (which is many considering I work for a Canadian ISP) don't know what their bandwidth cap is, and don't come CLOSE to using it. This isn't surprising, considering most customers use the internet primarily for web browsing/online shopping, MSN (MSN is easily the most dominant IM service in Canada), gaming and music sharing. Movie sharing is still relatively limited and not used by most people, and any video service outside of Youtube has a rather limited reach.
Slashdot readers may use a whole giant crap-load of bandwidth, but the vast majority of the other 99.99% of the population don't use all that much.
When services like Joost and other HD services that use bittorrent, or even ones that don't, become more pervasive and mainstream, thus bringing higher bandwidth usage to most consumers....then the ISP's are gonna be having problems. Right now though, any fears that people will intentionally use up all of their bandwidth are, quite frankly, ridiculous.
The only time this question has ever come before a Judge in Canada, he ruled that it WAS NOT illegal to download music in Canada.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040407114727/http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=canada_home&articleID=1563030
Quote: "Justice Konrad von Finckenstein ruled Wednesday that the Canadian Recording Industry Association did not prove there was copyright infringement by 29 so-called music uploaders. He said that downloading a song or making files available in shared directories, like those on Kazaa, does not constitute copyright infringement under the current Canadian law."