I would definitely get this for my commute of 320 miles a week.
Not sure how to read that - do you commute once a week, 160 miles each way, or 5 times a week, 32 miles each way?
I don't think I would be inclined to sit in such a small vehicle for 160 miles, but 32 would probably be tolerable.
I commute 80 miles a day times 4. I currently drive a 2006 Kia Rio LX Sedan.
This is just as much reason to avoid Google, or any company that keeps any kind of logs of your behavior.
Call your ISP and cancel your services, call your cell phone company and cancel your services, call your utility companies cancel your services, call your employer and quit so all your benefits are gone, then just go hide in a cave for the rest of your life. Also cancel all your bank accounts or transfer the money to me as well as, your credit cards.
Now that you have explained your side of the story and your perception of this, now i can see where you people are coming from. Thank you for opening my eyes a little bit more and broadening my vision.
There is unlimited bandwidth but not unlimited data transfer. The average joe users 20Megabit a second is more then enough to check email, youtube, browse the web, send and receive text messages, pay bills online, and what not. So to the average user 20Megabits a scond is unlimited as they will never need that much. But to the P2P user who constantly saturates their up and down streams with data transfers and slows down to a crawl you have reached your limit of 20Megabits a Second. So I think that is what they are saying.
And I quote from Comcasts AUP which we all sign if we are Comcast Customers:
How does Comcast enforce this Policy?
Comcast does not routinely monitor the activity of individual Service accounts for violations of this Policy, except for determining aggregate bandwidth consumption in connection with the bandwidth consumption provisions of this Policy. However, in the company's efforts to promote good citizenship within the Internet community, it will respond appropriately if it becomes aware of inappropriate use of the Service. Comcast has no obligation to monitor the Service and/or the network. However, Comcast and its suppliers reserve the right at any time to monitor bandwidth, usage, transmissions, and content in order to, among other things, operate the Service; identify violations of this Policy; and/or protect the network, the Service and Comcast users.
Comcast prefers to inform customers of inappropriate activities and give them a reasonable period of time in which to take corrective action. Comcast also prefers to have customers directly resolve any disputes or disagreements they may have with others, whether customers or not, without Comcast's intervention. However, if the Service is used in a way that Comcast or its suppliers, in their sole discretion, believe violates this Policy, Comcast or its suppliers may take any responsive actions they deem appropriate under the circumstances with or without notice. These actions include, but are not limited to, temporary or permanent removal of content, cancellation of newsgroup posts, filtering of Internet transmissions, and the immediate suspension or termination of all or any portion of the Service. Neither Comcast nor its affiliates, suppliers, or agents will have any liability for any of these responsive actions. These actions are not Comcast's exclusive remedies and Comcast may take any other legal or technical actions it deems appropriate with or without notice.
The full text can be found here:
http://www.comcast.net/terms/use/#violation
You using to much bandwidth is a violation of the Terms of Service agreement. So they are well within their rights to throttle or completely disconnect you as they did with a few of my friends for downloading way to much via P2P a few years ago.
So what about that do you not understand? If only you had read the AUP and the ToS for your ISP you and various other people would understand this and not bitch and moan when your precious P2P files aren't being delivered to you as fast as you want.
I am only this way when people defy logical thinking and apply it.
Cause: Using to Much Bandwidth
Effect: Throttling of Bandwidth
quite simple.
I get my allocated bandwidth regardless of what I am doing, and that makes me happy. I can download things 24/7 at nearly 1.2Megabytes a second to upwards of 2.2Megabytes a second regardless of time.
Water companies can install water filters on your lines based on usage as well. If you are using so much water that pressure in your neighborhood decreases then maybe you should reconsider how much water you do use, and think of the others in your neighborhood. So far nothing you have stated has made any sense. All I hear is a crying baby whining because he cant get the latest Ubuntu at a realtively fast speed or the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica. Im sorry your excessive use of bandwidth caused your ISP to throttle your speeds. Maybe you should think about actually going to the store and buying them on DVD or by using HTTP/FTP to download your ISO's.
Water is in so called unlimited supply yet we still get charged for it.
As for me having shares in Comcast no I don't have any shares in any company.
Just because I defend a companies policies doesn't mean I work for them high up. Im just your average casual computer user who plays games, chats with friends, streams the occasional youtube, watches watch now movies on netflix, and other average internet use type of person. I download my ISO's of Linux via standard means and can get them in under 15 to 20 minutes. Yes I do have P2P applications installed, but that is only for those sites that only use torrents for file downloads and not of the illegal or illicit type.
However, with Steam each time you hit that Refresh Server List you send a shitload of packets. Download and install Steam buy a few games and attempt to refresh the server list. And it varies depending on your filters.
Steam Client has been known to cause routers and modems to stop responding during a server refresh, and unlike P2P you cannot disconnect those as there is no option.
...and people want the unlimited bandwidth they're paying for. What's wrong with that? And why are you blaming P2P users for Comcast's lies?
There is using your internet connection then there is abusing it, and massive use of P2P is abusing your connection and as such you should get punished for it. Comcast has punished and people cry foul what a load of shit.
how would this work for gaming online? 16 different IP destinations and I play for hours on in. My understanding of Xbox Live is that it is P2P and if they throttle my Halo 3 game, I'm gonna get pwned even more than normal.
I totally agree. Steam creates a lot of connections to various content servers to bring down content faster for the Steam Client. It also creates a shitload of traffic when you refresh the server list via Steam Clinet > Servers Tab. The Steam Client is also P2P by definition.
Now this type of throttling would piss me off greatly.
My ISP is Comcast, and I was sent a Cease and Desist letter from Comcast stating I was using to much bandwidth and to stop my P2P use or be downgraded in speed. I opted to stop my P2P use and to get things via traditional ways like HTTP, FTP, SFTP, and others. I will not use any P2P Application.
Food and Internet are two totally different things. 1 is for entertainment and the other is a necessity. So your comparison fails on so many levels.
My original argument still stands.
There is a reason ISP's offer two different accounts that offer totally different levels of service. Residential is aimed more towards email checking, web surfing, casual gaming and what not. The business side of things offer better services targeted towards those users who use a lot of bandwidth and for hosting servers which is what is being done. You are using your computer to serve out content at a constant rate allwoing others to connect to you and download files. And to some ISP's that is a ToS violation for residential accounts.
And I applaud ISP's who enforce their ToSes and AUPes.
Why should we customers be punished for your over zealous use of bandwidth while peering huge files 24/7 and seeding them out just as much. I for one applaud Comcast and any other ISP that does this to P2P Packets. If you want better quality connections then don't get residential, and pay for their business accounts. Otherwise shut the fuck up and stop using bandwidth that other people like to use for their gaming and streaming of Netflix Cartoons for their children.
God I am sick and tired of you whiney babies complaining about Comcast or other ISP that does this. Either put forth more money to get better quality service or stop using P2P constantly. THink of other people for a fucking change instead of your fucking selfish self.
Thanks for making my blood pressure rise. Fuckin idiots.
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So what you are saying is that some people don't have maps?
Yes! The reason 1492 China people can not find the US on maps, I believe, is that many 1492 China people do not have maps, such as 1492-China-people-Americans, the Iraqis, the South Africans, such as.
Even back then the China Government was limiting their media.
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I would definitely get this for my commute of 320 miles a week.
Not sure how to read that - do you commute once a week, 160 miles each way, or 5 times a week, 32 miles each way? I don't think I would be inclined to sit in such a small vehicle for 160 miles, but 32 would probably be tolerable.
I commute 80 miles a day times 4. I currently drive a 2006 Kia Rio LX Sedan.
Don't feel bad Mercury. I know a lot of people who suffer from shrinkage..
Are you one of them, because you posted anonymously?
That said, I think it would be great for over 90% of commutes.
I would definitely get this for my commute of 320 miles a week.
This is just as much reason to avoid Google, or any company that keeps any kind of logs of your behavior.
Call your ISP and cancel your services, call your cell phone company and cancel your services, call your utility companies cancel your services, call your employer and quit so all your benefits are gone, then just go hide in a cave for the rest of your life. Also cancel all your bank accounts or transfer the money to me as well as, your credit cards.
Even anonymous browsing allows people to track who you are albeit more difficult then normal browsing.
Now that you have explained your side of the story and your perception of this, now i can see where you people are coming from. Thank you for opening my eyes a little bit more and broadening my vision.
There is unlimited bandwidth but not unlimited data transfer. The average joe users 20Megabit a second is more then enough to check email, youtube, browse the web, send and receive text messages, pay bills online, and what not. So to the average user 20Megabits a scond is unlimited as they will never need that much. But to the P2P user who constantly saturates their up and down streams with data transfers and slows down to a crawl you have reached your limit of 20Megabits a Second. So I think that is what they are saying.
The seller should be held accountable not the site he sold stuff at.
How does Comcast enforce this Policy?
Comcast does not routinely monitor the activity of individual Service accounts for violations of this Policy, except for determining aggregate bandwidth consumption in connection with the bandwidth consumption provisions of this Policy. However, in the company's efforts to promote good citizenship within the Internet community, it will respond appropriately if it becomes aware of inappropriate use of the Service. Comcast has no obligation to monitor the Service and/or the network. However, Comcast and its suppliers reserve the right at any time to monitor bandwidth, usage, transmissions, and content in order to, among other things, operate the Service; identify violations of this Policy; and/or protect the network, the Service and Comcast users.
Comcast prefers to inform customers of inappropriate activities and give them a reasonable period of time in which to take corrective action. Comcast also prefers to have customers directly resolve any disputes or disagreements they may have with others, whether customers or not, without Comcast's intervention. However, if the Service is used in a way that Comcast or its suppliers, in their sole discretion, believe violates this Policy, Comcast or its suppliers may take any responsive actions they deem appropriate under the circumstances with or without notice. These actions include, but are not limited to, temporary or permanent removal of content, cancellation of newsgroup posts, filtering of Internet transmissions, and the immediate suspension or termination of all or any portion of the Service. Neither Comcast nor its affiliates, suppliers, or agents will have any liability for any of these responsive actions. These actions are not Comcast's exclusive remedies and Comcast may take any other legal or technical actions it deems appropriate with or without notice.
The full text can be found here: http://www.comcast.net/terms/use/#violation You using to much bandwidth is a violation of the Terms of Service agreement. So they are well within their rights to throttle or completely disconnect you as they did with a few of my friends for downloading way to much via P2P a few years ago. So what about that do you not understand? If only you had read the AUP and the ToS for your ISP you and various other people would understand this and not bitch and moan when your precious P2P files aren't being delivered to you as fast as you want. I am only this way when people defy logical thinking and apply it. Cause: Using to Much Bandwidth Effect: Throttling of Bandwidth quite simple.
I get my allocated bandwidth regardless of what I am doing, and that makes me happy. I can download things 24/7 at nearly 1.2Megabytes a second to upwards of 2.2Megabytes a second regardless of time. Water companies can install water filters on your lines based on usage as well. If you are using so much water that pressure in your neighborhood decreases then maybe you should reconsider how much water you do use, and think of the others in your neighborhood. So far nothing you have stated has made any sense. All I hear is a crying baby whining because he cant get the latest Ubuntu at a realtively fast speed or the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica. Im sorry your excessive use of bandwidth caused your ISP to throttle your speeds. Maybe you should think about actually going to the store and buying them on DVD or by using HTTP/FTP to download your ISO's.
Water is in so called unlimited supply yet we still get charged for it. As for me having shares in Comcast no I don't have any shares in any company. Just because I defend a companies policies doesn't mean I work for them high up. Im just your average casual computer user who plays games, chats with friends, streams the occasional youtube, watches watch now movies on netflix, and other average internet use type of person. I download my ISO's of Linux via standard means and can get them in under 15 to 20 minutes. Yes I do have P2P applications installed, but that is only for those sites that only use torrents for file downloads and not of the illegal or illicit type.
Steam Client has been known to cause routers and modems to stop responding during a server refresh, and unlike P2P you cannot disconnect those as there is no option.
...and people want the unlimited bandwidth they're paying for. What's wrong with that? And why are you blaming P2P users for Comcast's lies?
There is using your internet connection then there is abusing it, and massive use of P2P is abusing your connection and as such you should get punished for it. Comcast has punished and people cry foul what a load of shit.
how would this work for gaming online? 16 different IP destinations and I play for hours on in. My understanding of Xbox Live is that it is P2P and if they throttle my Halo 3 game, I'm gonna get pwned even more than normal.
I totally agree. Steam creates a lot of connections to various content servers to bring down content faster for the Steam Client. It also creates a shitload of traffic when you refresh the server list via Steam Clinet > Servers Tab. The Steam Client is also P2P by definition.
Now this type of throttling would piss me off greatly.
My ISP is Comcast, and I was sent a Cease and Desist letter from Comcast stating I was using to much bandwidth and to stop my P2P use or be downgraded in speed. I opted to stop my P2P use and to get things via traditional ways like HTTP, FTP, SFTP, and others. I will not use any P2P Application.
Thank you for agreeing with me.
Food and Internet are two totally different things. 1 is for entertainment and the other is a necessity. So your comparison fails on so many levels.
My original argument still stands.
There is a reason ISP's offer two different accounts that offer totally different levels of service. Residential is aimed more towards email checking, web surfing, casual gaming and what not. The business side of things offer better services targeted towards those users who use a lot of bandwidth and for hosting servers which is what is being done. You are using your computer to serve out content at a constant rate allwoing others to connect to you and download files. And to some ISP's that is a ToS violation for residential accounts.
And I applaud ISP's who enforce their ToSes and AUPes.
Why should we customers be punished for your over zealous use of bandwidth while peering huge files 24/7 and seeding them out just as much. I for one applaud Comcast and any other ISP that does this to P2P Packets. If you want better quality connections then don't get residential, and pay for their business accounts. Otherwise shut the fuck up and stop using bandwidth that other people like to use for their gaming and streaming of Netflix Cartoons for their children. God I am sick and tired of you whiney babies complaining about Comcast or other ISP that does this. Either put forth more money to get better quality service or stop using P2P constantly. THink of other people for a fucking change instead of your fucking selfish self. Thanks for making my blood pressure rise. Fuckin idiots.
On a males dangly bits, and in a pocket in the front of a womans panties to stimulate them. of course these are bluetooth activated devices. So becareful around who you hang out with.
I guess i should have just said it. Vibrating pleasure devices for men and women. Put in "certian" places.
It makes you feel all tingly in some places ala vibration. Use your imagination with the meaning of "vibration".
In Las Vegas, Nevada there is Porn in News Paper style vending machines.
So what you are saying is that some people don't have maps?
Yes! The reason 1492 China people can not find the US on maps, I believe, is that many 1492 China people do not have maps, such as 1492-China-people-Americans, the Iraqis, the South Africans, such as.
Even back then the China Government was limiting their media.
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