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ICANN Board Approves Wide Expansion of TLDs

penciling_in writes "The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) has approved the relaxation of the rules for the introduction of new Top-Level Domains — a move that could drastically change the Internet. 'We are opening up a new world and I think this cannot be underestimated,' said Roberto Gaetano, an ICANN board member. The future outcome of this decision was discussed on Slashdot a few days ago. It also seems, based on this post on CircleID from last month, that ICANN was already in preparation mode of mass TLD introductions. The new decision will allow companies to register their brands as generic top-level domain names (TLDs). For instance, Microsoft could apply to have a TLD such as '.msn', Apple apply for '.mac', and Google for '.goog'... The decision was taken unanimously on Thursday, June 26, 2008 at the 32nd ICANN Meeting in Paris."

490 comments

  1. There will be some good from this. by Gewalt · · Score: 5, Funny

    We are long overdue for a .sucks domain. It will be nice to finally have it.

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    1. Re:There will be some good from this. by lastchance_000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You'll have to talk to Hoover to register domains under it, though.

    2. Re:There will be some good from this. by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Talk about printing your own money.

      This is like paying the city to give your driveway a name, so you can brag about what a blue blood you are for having your own street.

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    3. Re:There will be some good from this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm the first in the queue to claim the domain sex.sucks :-)

    4. Re:There will be some good from this. by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

      I was _1 week_ late to register sucks.org -- I would've loved to have been able to give people subdomains off of it ... although, technically, it'd be a network service, so sucks.net would've been more appropriate (but that was taken the year before).

      I've never actually contacted any of the sucks.{com|net|org} owners to see if they'd be willing to give people A records. (.net and .org keep going year-to-year and renewing each time ... .com's longer term)

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    5. Re:There will be some good from this. by diodeus · · Score: 3, Funny

      I want .:)

    6. Re:There will be some good from this. by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 1

      This is like paying the city to give your driveway a name, so you can brag about what a blue blood you are for having your own street.
      Not really. In many cases, streets are named after the first landowner to live there; I know some people who had "their" street named after them.

      We once had a country house on the street named after the neighbour who was my father's best friend (he got the idea to subdivide the lot he bought).

    7. Re:There will be some good from this. by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 0

      if that's the case, then let it be known that i call joemama.sucks, angiedaddy.sucks/too, etc.

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    8. Re:There will be some good from this. by trolltalk.com · · Score: 1, Funny

      If he's registering dot.sucks, I want dot.cum, dot.guv, dot.orgy, dot.not, dot.ed, and dot.milf.

    9. Re:There will be some good from this. by cstdenis · · Score: 1, Funny

      They have them, look at their addresses.

      Microsoft Corporation
      One Microsoft Way
      Redmond, WA 98052
      US

      Apple Inc.
      1 Infinite Loop
      Cupertino CA 95014
      US

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    10. Re:There will be some good from this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Hoover? I thought this is exclusive for Microsoft...

    11. Re:There will be some good from this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We are long overdue for a .sucks domain. It will be nice to finally have it. You might be interested in this domain I have just registered, Gewalt.sucks . If you are, you can purchase it for the low, low price of $Yoursoul. ...Seriously. If that gets started, there will be people buying TheirName.sucks just to keep other people from getting it. That's a good thing?
    12. Re:There will be some good from this. by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me about his family.

      His family comes from a tiny town in Texas. After his father died, his mother decided to sell their huge ranch and move into a smaller house. A developer bought it and decided to name the development after the family in their honor. So the name of the new neighborhood contains their last name, and each street name contains the first name of someone in the family. Pretty nice tribute, actually.

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    13. Re:There will be some good from this. by neuromancer23 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Or his mom

    14. Re:There will be some good from this. by TeknoHog · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'll have to talk to Hoover to register domains under it, though.

      Dam!

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    15. Re:There will be some good from this. by mrslacker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't forget Legoland drive, Disney Way, etc, etc.

    16. Re:There will be some good from this. by lgw · · Score: 3, Funny

      Half the roads in Georgia are " Still Road", named after the homeowner who originally made the road to his still. I love America.

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    17. Re:There will be some good from this. by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I want to say the following when somebody asks me for my homepage address:

      slash dot dash dot
      slash dot dash dot
      slash dot dash dot
      slash dot com
      dot com
      dot com
      dot dot dot dot com

      ...

      I had to cut most of it because of the damn "postercomment" filter! How will i be able to tell people my domainname here??

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    18. Re:There will be some good from this. by whackco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I am more interested in seeing a list of the immediatly blocked list.

      One thing they would want to block is the .local - this is very common in Active Directory structures to differentiate the LAN/WAN environments.

      Imagine if some company bought the .local and started to be able to randomly answer requests from around the world of millions of potential queries?

      This brings up a good point, if you want to look at where this can be exploited, simply look at the dropped and invalid query records of the current root servers. I just hope they have some common sense... oh wait...

    19. Re:There will be some good from this. by mazarin5 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or finally, I can have clownpenis.fart!

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    20. Re:There will be some good from this. by Gewalt · · Score: 1

      You might be interested in this domain I have just registered, Gewalt.sucks . If you are, you can purchase it for the low, low price of $Yoursoul. Buy it? Hell no, I don't want to buy it! I want to subscribe to its mailing list!
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    21. Re:There will be some good from this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      man.bear.pig!

    22. Re:There will be some good from this. by kahanamoku · · Score: 1

      Speaking of exclusive, I wonder if ICANN will claim exclusive rights to .tld

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    23. Re:There will be some good from this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of which, who gets .apple? Apple computers, or The Beatle's record label?

    24. Re:There will be some good from this. by Kligat · · Score: 1

      Hey, Herbert Hoover may have been a terrible president, but at least he was a humanitarian!

    25. Re:There will be some good from this. by antic · · Score: 1

      What sort of price range are we talking about for these TLDs?

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    26. Re:There will be some good from this. by uncamarty · · Score: 2, Funny

      Is this anything like a Vegetarian?

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    27. Re:There will be some good from this. by Gewalt · · Score: 5, Informative

      100K$ - 500K$... Not to mention you have to provide a "business model" and um... show technical capacity to run a TLD. Which makes this more of a money grab before the rest of the world wrests control of the net from ICANN.

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    28. Re:There will be some good from this. by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      ICANN has .cheezburger?

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    29. Re:There will be some good from this. by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      I've been hoping for .art and .bbs for a long time myself...

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    30. Re:There will be some good from this. by stfvon007 · · Score: 1

      I'm registering slash.dot!

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    31. Re:There will be some good from this. by antic · · Score: 1

      Informative, thanks (wish I wasn't posting so I could mod you up).

      I'm not so bothered about the idea of Google, Apple and co having their own TLDs as I am about the seedy side of the net running even more of a free-for-all than they already are when it comes to tasting, speculation, and so on. Combine that with questionable extensions and operators and things will get much worse before they get any better.

      Will that cost be enough to limit the underbelly, or are they making significantly more money than we expect? I guess the value for many will be in type-ins (questionable extensions like .c0m and .con which ICANN seem likely to restrict) or how much value Google bestows to new TLDs (e.g., Made for AdSense sites).

      Surely there will be opportunities for new businesses set up to consult on and manage TLDs for large companies that can afford them? Probably easier than getting and demonstrating in-house capabilities?

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    32. Re:There will be some good from this. by baeksu · · Score: 1

      In these cases, the companies probably built the streets in question with their own money, so they may have felt entitled to deciding on the name, too.

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    33. Re:There will be some good from this. by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

      Fuck that. Of real interest here, especially including non-geeks in the mix, will be firstname.lastname

      Wonder that how's going to work out. There can be only one lucky John Smith!

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    34. Re:There will be some good from this. by Bryan+Ischo · · Score: 1

      That is not uncommon. Where I grew up (NE Ohio) many country roads were named after the owner of the land at either endpoint. Hence, Solomon-Hutchings Rd, Tibbets-Wick Rd, Albright-McKay Rd (my grandparents lived on this one), Sharon-Stewart Rd, etc. Definitely it made for unique and memorable, although long, road names.

    35. Re:There will be some good from this. by stfvon007 · · Score: 1

      Ill register john.smith then auction it off on ebay :D

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    36. Re:There will be some good from this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7333522659474918080

      Just in case people don't know what you meant by that.

    37. Re:There will be some good from this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh!

    38. Re:There will be some good from this. by indi0144 · · Score: 1

      I always have wondered if that song relates in any sense to /. -- I mean Fat Boy it's a /. reader? He stated that the song was dedicated to /.? The video is REVEALING but I want confirmation from the elders.

    39. Re:There will be some good from this. by TMB · · Score: 1

      Thanks, now I have cappuccino spurting out my nose...

    40. Re:There will be some good from this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so practically speaking this is poor man's BGP or poor man's yellow pages ... :)

    41. Re:There will be some good from this. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      .invalid is reserved, so no bedridden.invalid domain.

      They'll likely hold back .example as well, but I wonder if they can enforce there being no example.tld domains.

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    42. Re:There will be some good from this. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      I wonder when they're going to open up the registry for it and where to go, 'cause there's going to be a big name-space rush to get prime speculative TLDs.

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    43. Re:There will be some good from this. by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Of real interest here, especially including non-geeks in the mix, will be firstname.lastname

      Interesting idea. But, as you realise, with problems.

      Wonder that how's going to work out. There can be only one lucky John Smith!

      More generally, what does John Alexander Smith do? Or for that matter, Fred Smith? Both would, under the present system, have to rely on whoever got the .smith TLD choosing to (and being technically competent to) correctly maintain several thousand subdomains. While there's only (in your scheme) one lucky John Smith, there's also one lucky Abelard Smith, Belulah Smith ... and one Zebedee Smith.

      It is an interesting question though - I gave some thought to it a few years ago when I had MyFamilyName.org (as I'm sure you know, .org is intended for non-profit organisations and personal domains). I wondered about subdomaining to ca.MyFamilyName.org , ie.MyFamilyName.org, uk.MyFamilyName.org (all areas where I knew there are members of my family) ; where would I find suitable people. I debated what I'd do if I found an axe-wielding murderer with the same family name as me but no known relationship, who wanted AxeMurderer.us.MyFamilyName.org ? Did I want the joys of having to fight a discrimination case in a foreign jurisdiction, or would I give him the domain. What if the Axe Murderer was the only (or first) applicant from the US - should I let him control the whole subdomain?

      I let the domain lapse.

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    44. Re:There will be some good from this. by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      So this was a last ditch effort to destroy the Internet before they inevitably lost control of it to a rival. Like Hitler wanting to burn Paris in WWII, or Adult Swim airing the fuck out of Futurama in the months before losing the contract to Comedy Central.

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    45. Re:There will be some good from this. by dodobh · · Score: 1

      Then they need to switch to local.example.com (where example.com is their domain, or they could just use example.(com|net|org).

      It's even a RFC.

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  2. first.post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    fuck.icann

    1. Re:first.post by dotancohen · · Score: 4, Funny

      icann.not

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    2. Re:first.post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      like a true yoda disciple, spoken.

    3. Re:first.post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      icann.fuck

    4. Re:first.post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      icann.fuck.myrighthand. Fixed that for ya.

    5. Re:first.post by Fuzzzy · · Score: 1

      That's probably the reason they limited the TLDs to four letters only.

    6. Re:first.post by BrentH · · Score: 1

      Ah, damn....

      - Brent

    7. Re:first.post by celle · · Score: 1

      reverse that: icann.fuck

    8. Re:first.post by OP_Boot · · Score: 1

      Really? I didn't know that. My surname is four letters (as is the surname of a good few million people with the same name) Where do I sign up? ??

    9. Re:first.post by OP_Boot · · Score: 3, Funny

      surely:
      Ah.damn
      ?

    10. Re:first.post by Refenestrator · · Score: 1

      icann.has.cheezburger

    11. Re:first.post by MsGeek · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see them make the top-level domain .lan a "non-routable" top level domain. Then again, .local would still be a "not legal" TLD and most people use that anyway.

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  3. The end of ctrl+enter days? by pwnies · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I sincerely hope that this doesn't become too commonplace, and that .com, .net, and .org don't just get thrown out the window. Call me lazy, but I love being able to ctrl+enter, shift+enter, and ctrl+shift+enter to auto-complete .com/.net/.org respectively. Typing "www.search.google" is just more tedious than typing, "google [ctrl][enter]"

    1. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just type "g [enter]". Get your browser set up properly.

    2. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by pitchpipe · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ya. And this'll just piss off your wife (yes I know I'm on Slashdot) when she types in goo.. and up pops www.google.boobs

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    3. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Gewalt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Take a lesson from the idiots. Many times I have seen /.r's mocking end users for using the search feature on their homepage to get to another website, instead of using the address bar. I don't find that feature idiotic at all, and I use that behavior myself. The more and more TLDs we get, the more convenient this "feature" of a modern homepage becomes. And don't moan about have to use the mouse to click the first entry, most users would have had to use the mouse to even put the cursor in the address bar anyways, not to mention click the mouse a predetermined number of times between 1 and 3 just to be able to start tying a random URL.

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    4. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by maxume · · Score: 1

      What about those of us who deride them for not using the search bar?

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    5. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by George+Beech · · Score: 2

      pffft that is 1 too many key strokes, I just do <search term>[enter] ! efficiency (and search bars) rules!

    6. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use that search box in top right and don't even have to worry about typing "g"

    7. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Firefox 3's location bar makes this trivial. Just type "google [down] [enter]" and if you're already a frequent Google user, it should be the first entry.

      Manually entering URLs is becoming obsolete anyway. Either tools like FF3's amazing bar, or just Google'ing for the page are the best.

      In Japan, ads don't even show URLs anymore - just a search query.

    8. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by BungaDunga · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Couldn't there be www.google? ie, domain "www" TLD "google".

    9. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by alphaseven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I sincerely hope that this doesn't become too commonplace, and that .com, .net, and .org don't just get thrown out the window. Call me lazy, but I love being able to ctrl+enter, shift+enter, and ctrl+shift+enter to auto-complete .com/.net/.org respectively. Typing "www.search.google" is just more tedious than typing, "google [ctrl][enter]" There are already quite a few popular sites that use "unusual" TLDs like last.fm, del.icio.us and blip.tv and it never struck me as a problem.
    10. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very good point, you have my unofficial mod up.

    11. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by The+Warlock · · Score: 1

      Check out the new address bar in Firefox 3: you can just type words into it and it will search your history based on the site's title, sorted by frequency of access, and bring up those results, instead of just a list of URLs.

      I thought it was pretty neat, anyway.

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    12. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Palshife · · Score: 1

      If there's a Google TLD, wouldn't you just type "google"?

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    13. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by wtfispcloadletter · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you enable browser.urlbar.autoFill (see about:config) then you just need to start typing and hit enter.

      For me to hit /. I just hit "s [enter]"

    14. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by ady1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Typing just "google" would do. You don't need to type anything else (having www prefix was such a stupid idea to begin with).

      I for one look forward to this as this is how dns is suppose to work. Anyone who doesn't like it doesn't understand how dns works.

    15. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Bogtha · · Score: 1

      Typing "www.search.google" is just more tedious than typing, "google [ctrl][enter]"

      Why are you assuming www.search.google.? What's stopping Google from simply using google. as a hostname? That way, you can type "google", hit enter and get to where you want to go. It even saves you from holding down Ctrl.

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    16. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Gewalt · · Score: 1

      I use it, but overall, I am not impressed. Part of the un-impressiveness of it is my own fault. I "clear private data" after every pron session. So the awesomebar never has much int he way of relevant history to go by. If only FF had a "Private Browsing" mode like safari does...

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    17. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by spottedkangaroo · · Score: 1

      wtf is a home page?

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    18. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      A add-on search for "private browsing" turned up the Distrust plug-in. It sounds like exactly what you're looking for. The version there isn't FF3 compatible yet, but it looks like the author is just waiting for it be accepted and you can install it manually from that site.

    19. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a plug-in for FF3 that does exactly that. I can't remember the name but I know I found it in the security section. Turn it on and no cookies, form data, etc. are saved.

    20. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by bigpresh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sounds like you're looking for Stealther, an addon which can temporarily disable saving history, form entries, caching etc, and is easily enabled/disabled.

    21. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by nko321 · · Score: 1

      Come to think of it, under the new rules, what's stopping the possibility of "google" or "google." becoming the new Google.com?

    22. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by ottothecow · · Score: 1
      Yeah, I never understand the people who go to their firefox address bar and type in 'www.google.com'

      they always get snippy when you suggest that they could just click a few inches to the right and search google from the search box. Yes, change can be hard but often it is for the better.

      Reminds me of the time when I first saw a post on digg titled something like "MOST USEFUL FIREFOX KEYBOARD COMMAND YOU NEVER KNEW ABOUT." That command was ctrl-shift-t (reopen most recently closed tab). I tried it...said "eh...thats not that cool...if I need it right away then I won't close it...and if it was a while ago I can use history." Then one day I closed the wrong tab--scratched my head, remembered that shortcut and have been using it religiously ever since.

      Also, I feel the same way about people who insist on opening a new tab before doing a new search/typing in a new address. Instead why not just do a ctrl-enter instead of enter after you type in the search...opens the results in a new foreground tab and preserves your current page

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    23. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've completely disabled history in my browser. I've never really seen a use for it. The majority of sites don't even have good titles. Not only that, but there's no really good way of finding stuff in the history. By the end of the day, it's impossible to find any one page your viewed throughout the day. Worked fine in the day of 28.8 K modems, where you only visited 20 pages a day. I think that the history should be tree based. Each time you open a new empty tab, do a new search, or type in a URL directly, it should start a new tree. The pages you visit form that point on should be under that tree. If from the same page, I open 6 different links, they should all show up as direct children of that first entry. So, you could do a search in google, and each of the six items opened from the search results will result in a child of that initial search.

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    24. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      And you're saying there's something wrong with a Google Boobs search engine?

      Er... I mean... I didn't say that.

    25. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by pete-classic · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's it, I'm starting a dyslexic porn site and calling it Boogle Goobs!

      -Peter

    26. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      I seem to remember there being some www.booble.com site... I don't dare click on it or search for it here at work, though ;)

    27. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Slashdot+Suxxors · · Score: 2, Funny

      about:blank

    28. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by digitrev · · Score: 1

      What, suddenly the spacebar doesn't count as a key?

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    29. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by cetan · · Score: 1

      [[Yeah, I never understand the people who go to their firefox address bar and type in 'www.google.com'
      they always get snippy when you suggest that they could just click a few inches to the right and search google from the search box. Yes, change can be hard but often it is for the better. ]]

      That's nothing. A number of my coworkers get to Google by first going to yahoo (which they have in their "recently visited sites" list in the address bar drop-down in IE) and typing "www.google.com" in the Yahoo search box.

      The first time I saw someone do this I thought they were joking around with me. Not so.

      It does not occur to them to type the address in the address bar be cause they don't know what the address bar is really for. A number of them think that the drop-down list is the "favorites."

      If I ask someone to change something in a url currently in the address bar (to get to a different part of the same site,) they'll struggle with the task in the same way they would struggle with performing open-heart surgery.

      This is what computer use is like in the "real world." I wish more of the /.-type crowd would understand these sorts of challenges.

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    30. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by olyar · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not at work. Just checked. You were wise not to go there...

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    31. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Solandri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Take a lesson from the idiots. Many times I have seen /.r's mocking end users for using the search feature on their homepage to get to another website, instead of using the address bar. I don't find that feature idiotic at all, and I use that behavior myself.
      When I need to go to a new site for a financial transaction (e.g. opening a new bank account), I always get there via a Google search instead of typing it directly. If I enter the address directly and make a subtle typo, I could end up at some scammer's site made to look like the real thing so they can steal my personal info. If I go through Google and make a typo, Google usually suggests the correct name. Even when it doesn't, I can usually tell by the search results that I've made a typo.
    32. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by prockcore · · Score: 1

      why would they have 2 sub domains?

      Their frontpage would literally be .google

    33. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by g0at · · Score: 1

      Or more to the point, just "google".

    34. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by prockcore · · Score: 1

      so click the little star next to urls you visit a lot. I used to rarely bookmark sites because I didn't want to bother with organizing them. With the awesomebar, I bookmark a lot more (by starring them) since typing in the awesomebar searches my bookmarks.

    35. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by dodecalogue · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hey I never knew that... http://com http://net http://org

      (com redirects to me to cnet, net goes to net.com, and org goes to org.com)

    36. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by CTilluma · · Score: 1

      Depends on how DNS is set up and what an organization thinks should receive traffic destined for a domain that hasn't specified a host. For quite a few places that will send a user to a server that www resolves to as well, but that doesn't have to be the case.

    37. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Ken_g6 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but what happens when you want Wikipedia? With YubNub in my Firefox search bar, I just type "wp [enter]" instead.

      Google Maps? "gmap"
      Google News? "gnews"
      Dictionary.com? "define"

      I just wish "gimg" got Google Image Search.

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    38. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Why www.search.google? Plain google will redirect to search the same way google.com redirect to www.google.com.

    39. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You do realize you don't need YubNub for that, right?

      Right click on any input field, "Create a keyword for this field", bada bing

      I've got
      wp - wikipedia
      gf - gamefaqs.com
      gw - guildwars.wikia.com
      g - google.com
      gi - google.com/images

      etc...

    40. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by residieu · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or skip the plugins, and you can add whichever search keywords you want to work right in the addressbar. (Right click on a search box and select "Add a keyword for this search. Opera has a similar function) Saves you from having an extra input box in your toolbar.

    41. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Thiez · · Score: 1

      Click? I always press f6, because hate to touch my mouse (laptop + not having a USB mouse with me = cursing + learning keyboard shortcuts) (and I've got google.com as my homepage so alt+home also does the trick). Is there a shortcut to start typing in the google searchbar immediately much like f6 does for the 'awesomebar'?

    42. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by hackstraw · · Score: 3, Insightful

      TLDs are pointless.

      Proof:

      http://slashdot.com/
      http://www.google.net/
      http://www.microsoft.net/
      http://www.craigslist.com/

      All of those are paid for by their respective owners, and they redirect or just display the content of the "real" TLD.

      Country codes would be nice, its annoying to go to a .com and find I'm in the UK, and I'm not going to order from them.

      If I want to go to a company's website, I don't type www.barnes and noble.net, I ask google for it. Also, with the typosquatting, and whatnot, typing urls is simply unsafe. I do use the URL's history. s completes to slashdot, and whatnot. Just in case you need rock hard erections go to http://www.slashdot.net/

    43. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are already quite a few popular sites that use "unusual" TLDs like last.fm, del.icio.us and blip.tv and it never struck me as a problem. .fm, .us, and .tv are the TLDs of Countries.
      Federated States of Micronesia, United States, and Tuvalu respectively
       
      They are not vanity TLDS.
      And more importantly, there is an inherent limit to the number that can be created.
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    44. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      There are already quite a few popular sites that use "unusual" TLDs like last.fm, del.icio.us and blip.tv and it never struck me as a problem.

      You do realize that those are all country codes, don't you?

      • .fm = Federated States of Micronesia
      • .us = United States of America
      • .tv = Tuvalu

      Me, I think we should do away with all TLDs except country codes, and let each country administer its TLD as it sees fit. But that'd take away ICANN's big revenue stream, wouldn't it?

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    45. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by el+americano · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Those all give a page load error for me. I think your browser wants to be involved in the decision making process.

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    46. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by prod-you · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You obviously haven't used Firefox 3 yet.

    47. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by LogicHoleFlaw · · Score: 1

      The awesomebar in FF3 and the https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5890 Tree Style Tab work almost exactly as you describe. I think they're great.

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    48. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by OP_Boot · · Score: 1, Funny

      What's the hot-key for Close Tab in FF ?

    49. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Plutonite · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah? Well all I have to do is let the butterfly in my hand flap it's wings once, and you know the rest.

    50. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Sheafification · · Score: 1

      I whole-heartedly agree about history being a tree. It would be enormously more useful to me. I remember pages I visited by how I got there, not by the page title. With that said, some browsers have better history searches than others. On several occasions I've used Safari to search through my history to find a page that I was looking for. Not that it is amazing, just occasionally useful.

    51. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by jorgevillalobos · · Score: 1

      What's the hot-key for Close Tab in FF ?

      That'd be Cmd+W on Mac and Ctrl+W on Windows and Linux. And I think the site just got text-link Slashdotted :D.

    52. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Correcting myself as AC. The site is not slashdotted. It just sucks and doesn't work on Firefox 3.

    53. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Inquisitor911 · · Score: 1

      Just use OpenDNS. You point your router to their DNS servers, and you can configure up to 50 shortcuts for your favorite websites.

      For example, if I want to go to slashdot, I just type "sd" into my address bar, and I'm redirected to slashdot.org.
      "gm" redirects me to Gmail.
      "news" redirects me to Google News.
      "maps" redirects me to Google Maps.
      "docs" redirects me to Google Docs.
      "help" redirects me to the Debian support forum.

    54. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I also felt compelled to double check - olyar is correct. Always pleased to be a service.

    55. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use opera for teh pr0n. FF3 for the rest. Thats what I do - if my gf uses my computer she won't even KNOW what opera means, nevermind open it :P

    56. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by symbolset · · Score: 1

      Ooh. I want the TLD .slash

      Then I can have the website http://slashdot.slash/

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    57. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 1

      Many times I have seen /.r's mocking end users for using the search feature on their homepage to get to another website, instead of using the address bar. There's nothing wrong with using a search engine for its intended purpose. The mock-worthy behavior comes when they enter the actual domain name into Google, complete with "www" and "com". If you know the domain name, use it. If you're not sure, don't include the parts you're not sure about.
    58. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Charbax · · Score: 1

      Actually, it'll probably be "google [enter]". There is no reason google will use search.google, they will probably simply remove the .com and have all the same URLs they have now. So for example mail.google, reader.google, docs.google, news.google and blogs.google while search will most probably be on just the TLD by itself.

    59. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by pbhj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      [...] a few popular sites that use "unusual" TLDs like last.fm, del.icio.us and blip.tv and it never struck me as a problem. Those aren't unusual TLDs they're entirely generic and fit in the system of geographic TLDs.

      Basically they are going to screw up the system to allow anything that makes more money for the ICANN executives. No?

      There's still hope I think. If the major search engines chose to give a negative weighting to these new TLDs then ICANN wouldn't be able to screw quite so much out of the entire globes businesses - businesses can't afford to not control the website at theirdomain.tld, especially if there's a chance it can rank higher than theirdomain.com (eg if hte TLD is a keyword for that business).

      I wonder how they're going to open bidding and how I can pounce ".sex", ".money", etc.. Presumably they'll auction it as that's the most evil way to maximise their profits.

      If ICANN are going to follow this route then they could just go the whole hogg and allow alpha string with spaces as delimiters. Oh but I'm forgetting, artificial scarcity inflates the price for them .... capitalist pigs.

    60. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by quantumphaze · · Score: 1

      Mine is about:blank

      I'm sure most people here just use a session manager

    61. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...its annoying to go to a .com and find I'm in the UK...

      You have to go to a website to find out what country you're in?

    62. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by breem42 · · Score: 1

      When I need to go to a new site for a financial transaction (e.g. opening a new bank account), I always get there via a Google search instead of typing it directly. If I enter the address directly and make a subtle typo, I could end up at some scammer's site made to look like the real thing so they can steal my personal info. If I go through Google and make a typo, Google usually suggests the correct name. Even when it doesn't, I can usually tell by the search results that I've made a typo.

      What? You don't know how to create or use bookmarks?

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    63. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Solandri · · Score: 1

      What? You don't know how to create or use bookmarks?

      As I said, "When I need to go to a new site for a financial transaction..." You can't use a bookmark to get to a site you've never been to. ;)

    64. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by akita · · Score: 1

      According with most of the comments, it doesn't seem to work very well.

    65. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by benjj · · Score: 1

      Yes - they are not 'vanity' TLDs - but you would be a bit weird to set Ctrl+enter just to fill in .fm...

    66. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by enoz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Welcome to g(.)(.)gle.

      (as seen in some other /. comment)

    67. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      I understand how DNS is supposed to work, and this is going to be a major pain to deal with. It's going to force undesired upgrades of software worldwide, especially proxies and dedicated proxy hardware. It's also going to cause significant burdens on legitimate filtering software such as spam blacklists, and even more of a market for the domain squatters who pay a lot of ICANN's bills.

      If there were a way to force sites to use '.xxx' for porn sites, or '.pay' for ecommerce sites that handle money, I'd say it was worth it. But this just means more confusion of an already mis-regulated and deliberately abused structure.

    68. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      You may think you're kidding, but I've recently had to explain to some very nice people that no, I cannot force their machine to be 'Firstname.Lastname.example.com' without causing lots of DNS problems, and they'd just have to use a '-'.

    69. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by supernova_hq · · Score: 1

      Just use a seperate profile (or user) and clear the data out of that one (or password protect it so you can book mark your naughty pages).

    70. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've completely disabled history in my browser. I've never really seen a use for it. The majority of sites don't even have good titles.

      That is very true - it can be very hard to distinguish between Jenna & Savanna shot 1, Jenna & Savanna shot 7 and Jenna & Savanna shot 49 - they all kinda blend in...

    71. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firefox 3 has a pretty nice location bar with history integrated.

    72. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by twoshortplanks · · Score: 1

      The other thing I've always been frustrated by is that history keeps track of when you open a page, rather than when you close it. This makes it really hard to find "the thing I got round to reading at 5pm yesterday" when I originally opened the tab some days before.

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    73. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by bigpresh · · Score: 1

      According with most of the comments, it doesn't seem to work very well.

      It works well enough for me, seems to behave well, doesn't nuke my history but stops new entries being recorded when it's enabled etc.

      Strange that it still has a 4 star rating despite the people complaining about it.

    74. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If Google actually registered "google" as TLD, why should they put subdomains like "search" under it? The most obious way to reach google then would be http://google/

    75. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Kattspya · · Score: 1

      Yeah? Well, in Korea only old people use e-mail.

    76. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by DF5JT · · Score: 1

      > Is there a shortcut to start typing in the google searchbar immediately much like f6 does for the 'awesomebar'?

      Ctrl-K

    77. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Wooky_linuxer · · Score: 1

      Keep it. I'm going for the dot TLD. http://slash.dot/ FTW!

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    78. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If google buys google. TLD (they would be Dumb to pass this chance, and google may be evil, but they are not dumb), then they can even put a DNS
      record on "google".

      So the URL "http://google/" would get you straight to the beef. Unless you use an InfErior Browser for idiots that automatically appends .com and prepends www. on one-word URLs...

    79. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Thiez · · Score: 1

      Thank you very much!

    80. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can't use a bookmark to get to a site you've never been to. ;)

      Hmm...

          Bookmarks > Organize Bookmarks... > New Bookmark...

      Seems to work.

    81. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by spathi-wa · · Score: 1

      by spottedkangaroo (451692) * on Thursday June 26, @03:22PM (#23954547) Homepage Journal

      wtf is a home page?

    82. Re:The end of ctrl+enter days? by Tolkien · · Score: 1

      I agree.

  4. Interesting reversal by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It wasn't that long ago that ICANN voted against allowing the much-requested .xxx domain. Now they want to open up to allow custom TLDs?

    As if the internet didn't have enough arbitrary hodge-podge already.

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    1. Re:Interesting reversal by Floritard · · Score: 1

      Though the idea was to try to force all x-rated material to be on a .xxx wasn't it? Which would have been impractical for myriad reasons.

    2. Re:Interesting reversal by Zeinfeld · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The difference is that the supporters of .xxx could only get what they wanted if the rest of the net became a porn-free zone. So it was about censorship and control.

      What I don't understand is why the author thought that Microsoft would want .msn and Google would want .goog. Microsoft and Google might take those domains to stop squatters but the brands they would want to promote are .microsoft and .google.

      I wonder what the governance model for the root zones is going to be. At the moment these are maintained on a pro-bono basis. But this proposal is going to seriously increase the number of domains and the cost of the infrastructure required.

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    3. Re:Interesting reversal by pitchpipe · · Score: 5, Funny

      I say make 'em type in the ip address. That'll get rid of that hodge-podge lickety split. Now get off my lawn!

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    4. Re:Interesting reversal by jandrese · · Score: 5, Informative

      No, it was just the creation of a .xxx domain, there was never any realistic talk about forcing all pornographic material on there (defining what is pornographic for the entire world would be impossible anyway). It was going to be completely self selected. The reason they didn't want to make it is because they didn't want to create a "red light" district on the internet, an idea I still find baffling given the current nature of the internet.

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    5. Re:Interesting reversal by Caldrak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They feared the study that shows that 90% of all traffic that's not torrents relating to copyrighted material points to the red light district.

    6. Re:Interesting reversal by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      i find that hilarious, too. "We don't need no stinking red light district for planet earth!" (rolls eyes)

    7. Re:Interesting reversal by Bogtha · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The difference is that the supporters of .xxx could only get what they wanted if the rest of the net became a porn-free zone.

      I supported the xxx TLD and you aren't describing what I wanted at all. Just because some people wanted all porn to go in its own TLD, it doesn't mean people shouldn't be able to choose an xxx domain voluntarily.

      So it was about censorship and control.

      That much is right. You can't have an xxx domain even if you want to. That's censorship and control all right.

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    8. Re:Interesting reversal by courteaudotbiz · · Score: 1

      Anyway, the Internet is ALREADY a global Red Light District...

    9. Re:Interesting reversal by Excelcia · · Score: 1

      This is the way they can get .xxx, .g0ats3ks and .anythingelse without coming out and, as an organization, "supporting" it. Plus, they get a truck load of money doing it. So, basically they have turned into equivocating greedy bastards like anyone else.

    10. Re:Interesting reversal by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Yeah I believe an xxx TLD will make it easier for people to search for xxx stuff.

      Of course some strange/funny people will probably register xxx sites and put non xxx stuff on it.

      Then again it'll be pretty hard to tell what some even stranger people regard as xxx. :).

      Anyway, I'd like .here (or at least something similar) to be specially reserved (and made free for private use) so that it can be the DNS equivalent of RFC1918 addresses.

      See: http://www.circleid.com/posts/top_level_domains_for_addressing_by_physical_context

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    11. Re:Interesting reversal by dodecalogue · · Score: 1

      As if com net and org aren't arbitrary or actually represent companies networks and organizations. The terminology is flat, opening up the TLDs makes sense.

    12. Re:Interesting reversal by dword · · Score: 1

      And what do you do if the site relies on virtual hosts?

    13. Re:Interesting reversal by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Interesting thought just popped in my head related to this:

      Then again it'll be pretty hard to tell what some even stranger people regard as xxx. :).

      What exactly is the standard of classifying something "porn" or "not porn". I'm generally against the .xxx TLD for censorship issues, but now I really wonder about the feasibility of it to begin with.

      Is "erotica" porn? What about "artistic nudes"? What about just photos involving naughty bits? What about classical paintings? Erotic texts? The kama sutra? Online documents using the word "sex"?

      There is no natural line to draw. There is a very broad and fuzzy line between "porn" and "not porn", so who would get to arbitrarily draw a line, and say "everything past this point is pornography".

      I guess it is an inherent flaw in the thinkofthechildren ethic, whose children, and who is thinking? You say tah-mah-to, I say too-may-to, you say smut, I say good family fun.

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    14. Re:Interesting reversal by TheLink · · Score: 1

      I think the censorship by TLD idea is stupid.

      Assuming .xxx gets allowed, initially what would happen is people who have .xxx tld are would more likely to be serving porn, so this makes it easier for their customers or users to find or recognize them.

      So say if you're some person who goes for XYZ porn, you google for XYZ porn and there's a higher chance for the site to have that porn if it's a .xxx site rather than have something else.

      However I suspect what would actually happen later is that the .xxx sites would also start to have a significant proportion of phishing, malware, captcha cracking and other similar sites.

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    15. Re:Interesting reversal by iminplaya · · Score: 1

      I say make 'em type in the ip address.

      Yeah!

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  5. Slashdot can finally be what it wants by aster_ken · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by mlwmohawk · · Score: 3, Insightful
    2. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Eudial · · Score: 5, Funny

      http://slashdot.dot/

      Woohoo!

      H t t p colon slash slash slash dot dot dot...?

      Hm. You could develop this into some sort of morse code.

      So, since geek.com is already registered, we can register --. . . -.-, or

      http://dotdotdotslash.slash/

      Followed by

      2. ???

      And

      3. Profit!

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    3. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by digitally404 · · Score: 1, Redundant

      I think http://slash.dot/ would be better

    4. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by masterzora · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But http://slashdot.dot/ leads to an equal number of slashes and dots (not to mention maximizing the number of slashes and dots with out making the URL tedious). Surely this is a good thing?

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    5. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by IdeaMan · · Score: 1

      http://slash./

      Will they allow a blank TLD?

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    6. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

      There is actually an understood dot at the end of every host. The URL you have written is a host named slash that is its own TLD.

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    7. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Just+some+bastard · · Score: 1

      FQDNS names already have a trailing dot, it's just usually omitted.

      http://slashdot.org./

      That's http colon slash slash slash dot org dot slash

    8. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

      http://slash.dot.org/

      Try spelling THAT! :D

    9. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by MadnessASAP · · Score: 1

      There already is a null TLD. It's always been there. Whenever you would go to google.com you were actually going to "google.com." It's just that all name lookups these days automatically insert the last .

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    10. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 1
    11. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

      don't you mean slash.dot?

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    12. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by smallfries · · Score: 1

      Oblig: http:///./

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    13. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by ndansmith · · Score: 1

      H t t p colon slash slash slash dot dot dot...? You forgot the trailing slash.
    14. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      I think, technically by the rules of dns name resolution, there is supposed to be a . after the TLD, but it is ignored by the software we use (so, when your browser requests a dns resolution, it automatically adds a . at the end). So slashdot should be http://slashdot.org./ (Click on it and see and see what happens), which means the slashdot could be http://slash./ (that is, it would be it's own TLD).

    15. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://slashdot.dot/

      Woohoo!

      H t t p colon slash slash slash dot dot dot...?

      Hm. You could develop this into some sort of morse code.

      So, since geek.com is already registered, we can register --. . . -.-, or

      http://dotdotdotslash.slash/

      Followed by

      2. ???

      And

      3. Profit!

      stamp..

      kerchunk

      lol

    16. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Orange+Crush · · Score: 1

      I'd prefer http://slashdot.dotslash/

      Keeps it symmetrical.

    17. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by danbert8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If that were symmetrical wouldn't it be http://slashdot.todhsals/?

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    18. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did you mean http://slash.

    19. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Omestes · · Score: 1

      So now the web is going to degenerate into Usenet naming conventions?

      http://slash.dot.dot.bork.bork.bork?

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    20. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by rs79 · · Score: 1

      http://slash.dot/ worked ten years ago for a few days. .dot was the very first alternative tld. it came out of the BOFH.* usenet effort.

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    21. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 1

      No it doesn't, there are four slashes in

      http://slashdot.dot/

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      Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
    22. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Four slashes equals three dots?
       
      I'll never get used to this "new math".

    23. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by masterzora · · Score: 1

      *sigh*

      I have never heard anyone pronounce the final slash. Ever. I also did not type that slash. Unfortunately, the /. comment system automatically inserted it for me. As I had it typed, I assure you, there were indeed an equal number of slashes and dots.

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    24. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But http://slashdot.dot/ leads to an equal number of slashes and dots

      So 4 slash and 3 dot is the same number?

    25. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by FoamingToad · · Score: 1

      I went to HotelTangoTangoPapa://SierraLimaAlphaSierraHotelDeltaOscarTango.DeltaOscarTango.OscarRomeoGolf/ and got phished, you insensitive clod!

      F_T

    26. Re:Slashdot can finally be what it wants by Wooky_linuxer · · Score: 1

      Guess you misspelled it: it should be http colon slash slash slash dot [b]dot[/b] org dot slash - Nice to see it still works as a prank after all these years. :)

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  6. Those're gonna be some fun router tables by wiredog · · Score: 4, Funny

    I, personally, intend to try for the ".nsfw" domain.

    1. Re:Those're gonna be some fun router tables by DarthBart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know about you, but none of my router tables have DNS names in them.

    2. Re:Those're gonna be some fun router tables by erKURITA · · Score: 0

      Your router must be working with punch cards over a bad line.

    3. Re:Those're gonna be some fun router tables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put me down for a .wtf

  7. So wait.... by porcupine8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Let's say Apple registers .apple or .ipod. Do they automatically get ALL of the possible domains within that TLD? If not, who controls the TLD? If .apple is a TLD, can I go to GoDaddy and register porcupine.apple? If they do control it, do they have to pay to register domains within their own TLD? Or does this deal come with free unlimited domains?

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    1. Re:So wait.... by Aighearach · · Score: 0

      Yes

    2. Re:So wait.... by Gewalt · · Score: 4, Informative

      If they register the TLD then they will become the registrar. If you want to get a domain on that TLD then you will have to go through them.

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    3. Re:So wait.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .com and .net are run by VeriSign, but you can register the domain through any registrar of course. And while these companies may own their TLDs and have legal rights over them, I'm sure all or nearly all will get contracts with VeriSign or some other company to actually manage it for them. It would be stupid not to.

    4. Re:So wait.... by gclef · · Score: 5, Informative

      Close. They will become the registRY. The registRAR must be one of the ICANN-approved ones (you can't require a non-ICANN registrar). It isn't clear from what I've read whether you can refuse to work with any registrar and make it a closed TLD. I would assume you can, though.

    5. Re:So wait.... by pjeremyh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So for example the .cola domain, if pepsi gets it and registers .cola and pepsi.cola first then the only way we'll see coca.cola is if pepsi let them?

    6. Re:So wait.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should not be allowed to have A, AAAA or MX records in the TLD. It should not be allowed to register domains for an entity which also operates the registry or is in any way connected to the operator of the registry. Registries should be neutral towards all registrants. If Microsoft/Apple/Ford/BurgerKing wants to operate a TLD registry, then it should not have domains under that TLD except for the purposes of the registry. Each domain registered under a TLD should cost the same. In other words: TLDs should only be assigned for the sole purpose of operating a namespace. The last thing we need is businesses cluttering up the TLD space with trademarks.

    7. Re:So wait.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the registRAR was chosen from among the different companies with monsters. Poor Microsoft, with all their money they can't be too happy to have Mothra as their rep.

    8. Re:So wait.... by Ken_g6 · · Score: 1

      Well, there's already http://cola.com/ which is registered to Cola.com, Inc.

      If it hasn't been a problem so far, why should this be any different?

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    9. Re:So wait.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Close. That's the registRAWR!.

    10. Re:So wait.... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Hooray for TLD squatters...

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    11. Re:So wait.... by ChrisA90278 · · Score: 1

      It's easy. If you own the TLD then you have control of all the names "below it. In other words if I get .foobar then it is my DNS server that stores the .foobar data

      No different then today if I owned foobar.com

  8. This is going to suck by Osurak · · Score: 1

    I don't look forward to having to type out stuff like www.somerandomcompany.randomlygenereatedtldthatwas pickedbysomemarkettingassholewhoexhibits callousdisregardforconvenienceandacompletelackofcommonsense

    1. Re:This is going to suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Then don't. Vote with your fingers and ummm... go somewhere else.

  9. Clownpenis.fart by the_tsi · · Score: 4, Funny

    No longer the last domain available.

  10. Abuse of TLDs by JoeCommodore · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hope they have good oversight...

    Imagine the chaos of tlds with: .exe .dll .prg .php .c0m (or other foreign symbol for o .txt .pdf .conf .doc .txt .xls .ppt .jpg .gif .tif .mp3 .mpg .htm(l) .png ...then again slashdot could have a slashdot.slashdot domain.

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    1. Re:Abuse of TLDs by apathy+maybe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've seen this sort of comment in other places as well. It is a very important one.

      I remember when I was younger and stupid that I thought that .com on websites was the same as .com at the end of some MS DOS programs. Actually I never was stupid enough to think that they meant the same thing, but the fact is that I was damn confused until I learnt that one meant commercial and the other command.

      So yeah, this is a stupid idea, and I predict many many further opportunities for nasty people to exploit this to take money of stupid and ignorant people.

      Not to mention it will confuse the heck out of lots of people.

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    2. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Amouth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      persontal i want to try and get .local

      just so i can fuck with all the small biz NT/AD domain installs out there that doen't use a fully qualified name

      as soon as .local is resolvable soooo many people are going to have a bad day

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    3. Re:Abuse of TLDs by everynerd · · Score: 1
      From another article,

      There would be an arbitration process for people with objections to proposed names. So in the event of ensuing chaos, there will be a small amount any entity can do to object to TLDs. I would even imagine that eventually every TLD will be required to go through an approval process.
    4. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What chaos?

    5. Re:Abuse of TLDs by berashith · · Score: 1

      well done. very, very evil

    6. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is going to result in a URL obfuscation nightmare. The threat is not so much in people registering TLDs that mirror known potentially dangerous file extensions, so much as in people registering TLDs which are partial segments or homographs of known trusted ones.

      Check out this great F-22A strike video at navy.mi1! I can't even conceive what other badness these dorks will come up with.

    7. Re:Abuse of TLDs by giftedtiger74 · · Score: 1

      well done. very, very evil

      Yeah, I was just about to post this same thing, but I guarantee .local will have some type of exclusion similar to the reserved IPv4 blocks.
    8. Re:Abuse of TLDs by g0at · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't that just result in those people being unable to reach your site, though?

      In that vein however, "localhost" might be a fun one too.

    9. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Imagine the chaos of tlds with: .exe .dll .prg .php .c0m

      Imagine a beowulf cluster of the chaos of tlds...

      What baffles me is how ICANN could flipflop from resisting the conservative adding of a few reasonable and useful TLDs to throwing caution to the wind, pulling the pin out of the entire case of grenades for a quick buck, and allowing things that scammers and hackers have only just begun to gleefully salivate over.

    10. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Amouth · · Score: 1

      nope.. here is an example

      someone set up domain server..

      server.local

      local is the domain server is thename of the server

      adds a domain PC.. call PC

      then they have something OTHER than the AD acting as the dhcp and DNS server for their network.

      now when doing a .local domain pratice is to add your server.local's ip to the DNS name list.. (should be the first they ask but not always).. that way when .local isn't resolvable to the other DNS serves it will find server.local and resolve servers ip so that the PC can talk and auth the login

      now say that .local can be resolved.. before it asks server.local.. and you have a DNS box for local that gives 1 ip for *.local

      PC tries to login.. finds server.local but is using the IP given by the wonderfuly newly registered .local TLD instead fo server.local

      now users can't login.. other servers on .local get confused when trying to reach each other

      while all is avoildable - and all can be fixed - all will be pains in the asses

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    11. Re:Abuse of TLDs by citylivin · · Score: 1

      Not to mention apple computers with bonjour who seem to have their own hardcoded .local address (which already fucks with things as you mentioned)

      http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107800

      "just so i can fuck with all the small biz NT/AD domain installs out there that doen't use a fully qualified name"
      More than small businesses, I believe its standard practice in the windows world to suffix anything internal with .local. Ive been to quite a few sites where they have no shortage of FQDNs, but choose to use .local for their internal AD. Its also not hard to have both running concurrently and I believe that it is even recommended by microsoft that you do it this way.

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    12. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Buelldozer · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm going to throw away some mod points to respond your post.

      If you have something other than the ADC, or another AD integrated DNS server, acting as the primary DNS for your AD then the setup is wrong.

      The correct setup is for DHCP to ONLY handle out AD integrated DNS servers to clients if there is an AD structure. Again, if you done anything else the setup is wrong.

      This specifically includes moronic administrators who set the secondary DSN to an ISP on the theory that the local AD integrated DNS server will always respond faster unless it's down in which case the ISP secondary DNS will at least allow the user to surf the Internet. This is so dumb it should be criminal.

      In short, the only places that would have a problem with an internet wide .local domain are places that have administrators or consultants that should be FIRED for gross incompetence.

      FYI, DHCP really has nothing to do with this. You could achieve the same screwed up, or correct, configuration with static IP addressing.

    13. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Cybah · · Score: 1

      Surely Slashdot could simply be http://slashdot./ ? :-D I guess the trailing dot might be required to avoid confusing resolvers that append default suffixes...

    14. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Cybah · · Score: 1
    15. Re:Abuse of TLDs by g0at · · Score: 1

      After reading your post twice to parse its punctuation-free style, I think what you're saying is that "the practice" is to hard-number the .local stuff into a 'hosts' file (or equivalent) on every client PC, right?

      I would never set up a LAN this way; I would run a DNS that would first resolve against a local list, and only send requests to an outside recursor for anything that it didn't have itself. That way, the local .local domain would take precedence (and nobody on the LAN would ever be able to see your .local ICANN domain).

    16. Re:Abuse of TLDs by 3.1415926535 · · Score: 1

      "This document proposes that the DNS top-level domain ".local." be designated a special domain with special semantics, namely that any fully-qualified name ending in ".local." is link-local, and names within this domain are meaningful only on the link where they originate.

      "Any DNS query for a name ending with ".local." MUST be sent to the mDNS multicast address (224.0.0.251 or its IPv6 equivalent FF02::FB)."

      Sure, it's a draft, but ICANN would be daft to register that one.

    17. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Amouth · · Score: 1

      oh i know but really how many times have you seen people do it??

      it happens alot.. and a .local TLD will screw them..

      as for the DHCP thing.. in places i go that i see configured like this.. it is normaly beacuse they are using some netproviders router that has DHCP on it.. and rather than run their own DHCP server they just use the one provided (small biz)

      it is a much more common mistake than it should ever be

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    18. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Amouth · · Score: 1

      no not to the host file..

      too many times i have seen poeple setup domains with .local

      then go to the router provided by their net connection company and jsut add the internal ip of server.local to the dns server list.

      that way when a client gets the DNS info via DHCP it will have

      isp1's ip
      isp2's ip
      server.local's id

      it's stupid i know.. but it happens alot more than you would think

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    19. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Amouth · · Score: 1

      well that is good news

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    20. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      I hope they have good oversight...

      Imagine the chaos of tlds with: .exe .dll .prg...

      Oh, man, .PRG! Finally I can make my website URL look like part of a Commodore 64 directory listing!

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    21. Re:Abuse of TLDs by JoeCommodore · · Score: 1

      Don't forget to also reserve SEQ, REL, USR and DEL.

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    22. Re:Abuse of TLDs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really... If you are using a .local internally then the name resolution will go no further than your local DNS servers. The only result will be that clients within the .local AD will not be able to browse .local addresses on the internet since their DNS queries will get resolved by an internal dns server that thinks it is authoritative for .local.

      Oh well... I wont lose sleep over that.

  11. Why not just languages? by fintler · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd be happy with a TLD system based on language. Why do we need the com/net/org thing anyway. Lets just have something like

    http://google.en/
    http://google.it/
    http://.name.language/

    1. Re:Why not just languages? by tppublic · · Score: 5, Funny
      "Lets just have something like http://google.en/"

      I think you mean: http://google.en_us/

    2. Re:Why not just languages? by koinu · · Score: 3, Funny

      Question from .de ...

      Don't we have such system already? Does that mean you are not communists?

    3. Re:Why not just languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How would people get to google.010000110100111101001101

    4. Re:Why not just languages? by AnyoneEB · · Score: 1

      HTTP already has a way to handle languages: the Accept-Language header (section 14.4 of that link). Country TLDs make sense because a website may be associated with a specific country, but unless .en is for websites about English, it does not make any sense.

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    5. Re:Why not just languages? by Cyberax · · Score: 3, Informative

      Uhm... I'm automatically redirected to google.com.ua the first time I visit Google. And it's in Ukrainian (or in Russian - it depends on your browser settings). And that's because I'm in Ukraine.

      So it's working already.

    6. Re:Why not just languages? by Palshife · · Score: 1

      That seems backwards. An english version of google is en.google. More specific on the left, less specific on the right?

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    7. Re:Why not just languages? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      .it already exists, being the country-code domain for Italy. http://google.it/ already exists, too, as a matter of fact.

    8. Re:Why not just languages? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      You have to make arrangements with the Bynars; they normally firewall off their entire planet.

    9. Re:Why not just languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I think you mean http://google.an_us

    10. Re:Why not just languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Instead of ENglish United States, can we use AmericaN United States?

    11. Re:Why not just languages? by nobodymk2 · · Score: 1

      This limits how the website can offer different languages, as in which part of the code/url that determines it (such as the domain name, or /en-us or lang?="en-us" or a cookie) and how a language is chosen (first page automatic region detection, a user bookmarking lang?="en-us", etc)

    12. Re:Why not just languages? by dodecalogue · · Score: 1

      b-b-b-but how will I know if I am visiting a company, a network or an organization??

    13. Re:Why not just languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Question from .de ... Don't we have such system already?
      You just did the AnschluÃY all over again (this time including the greater part of Switzerland).

      No, the only ones that already have a language TLD are these quatre gats.

    14. Re:Why not just languages? by teh+kurisu · · Score: 1

      There was a proposal for a Scottish .sco TLD a while back, and there was some debate about whether it should be intended for sites based in Scotland or sites written in Scots.

      Wikipedia is divided up by language as opposed to country, and it doesn't really work in English, because of the differences in spelling and grammar between English-speaking countries. I personally have had someone go through an article I wrote and convert all the UK spelling to US spelling (in breach of Wikipedia's guidelines). Of course, Wikipedia is probably the worst example of this - most sites in a .en domain wouldn't see edit wars.

    15. Re:Why not just languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What happens if your website is in different languages? Or in Canada?

    16. Re:Why not just languages? by solanum0 · · Score: 1

      anwer from .at citizen in .ch ...

      no.

    17. Re:Why not just languages? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

      Nope; we're Dotcommunists.

    18. Re:Why not just languages? by Charbax · · Score: 1

      Nah I prefer google, google/fr, google/it and news.google/es

    19. Re:Why not just languages? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no, if we're reorganising the world (hey, the internet is the whole world for most us reading slashdot), then we might as get shut of that en-us crap and just standardise on en-en (sod the welsh and scots, they don't speak proper anyway!)

  12. Woohoo by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    A flat DNS. Just the way it was always meant to be.

     

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    1. Re:Woohoo by drspliff · · Score: 1

      Yeah, lets setup a server to server copy mechanism to transfer the "DNS" file with all the domain names in to keep everybody up to date.

      It's almost ironic that it went from a flat hosts file being copied around, only to head back that way.

    2. Re:Woohoo by Workaphobia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dead on commentary. I suppose we all should have seen this coming. Why is it that some people can't grasp the beauty of a tree structure?

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  13. alternatives to icann by kc8tbe · · Score: 1

    They've really fucked the system with this one. Are there any alternatives to icann administered dns out there?

    1. Re:alternatives to icann by robo_mojo · · Score: 1

      They've really fucked the system with this one. Are there any alternatives to icann administered dns out there?
      There are a few.
    2. Re:alternatives to icann by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Go back to straight IP Addresses with a hand edited hosts file. How many sites do you really visit? And with bookmarks, and google to search, do you really need to know the url of a site?

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  14. No one said they were any smarter. by khasim · · Score: 1

    I kind of supported their decision NOT to issue a .xxx TLD. But mostly because I believe it SHOULD be issued at the country name level.

    Example:
    sitename.xxx.uk
    or
    sitename.xxx.seattle.wa.us

    Now they've gone in the opposite direction, but they're still as stupid as they were back when they made that first decision.

    1. Re:No one said they were any smarter. by zehaeva · · Score: 2, Funny

      mmmm pr0n in seattle, will this be a guarantee that these hot girls from my area _really_ are from my area ?? ^_^

    2. Re:No one said they were any smarter. by prockcore · · Score: 1

      certainly make it easier for us (er.. I mean people. sick sick people) to find thai porn...

  15. Possibly the stupidest idea ever by lusiphur69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hmmm..let's open up the TLD's so that DNS servers will become overcrowded with useless DNS information that will quickly go out of date and throw the usability and simplicity of the current schema right out the window.

    Additionally, of course, common folk will have more trouble getting a domain name for that personal website/application because the fees are going to increase exponetially.

    Cash-in for ICANN - and end users lose.

    1. Re:Possibly the stupidest idea ever by timster · · Score: 1

      The usability and simplicity of a schema which means nothing? Because that's what we have now. Commercial sites with .org are all over the place, like right here. Non-profit sites with .com are everywhere. Nobody knows what .net is even supposed to mean. .edu is probably the last remaining holdout of sanity.

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    2. Re:Possibly the stupidest idea ever by lusiphur69 · · Score: 1

      That is true, but if you think with a new flat schema things will be any more logical you are sadly mistaken. If anything, they will become even more illogical, DNS logs are going to bloat and propagation time will become an issue. I also fail to see how having a commerical site at .net or .org is really an issue - introducting additional TLD's would solve this problem, not opening the whole system up to whomever can afford one.

      This decision makes no sense from an engineering perspective, but I am sure marketing people will love it. Just think 'Imlovinit.mcdonalds'! Yay for progress!

    3. Re:Possibly the stupidest idea ever by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      Except that .edu is for America only. Canadian post-secondary institutions use the .ca TLD with provincial subdomains. For example, my school, Seneca College in Toronto, is www.senecac.on.ca.

    4. Re:Possibly the stupidest idea ever by Random+Guru+42 · · Score: 1

      Not entirely true. Canadian universities can get .edu domains, it's just the colleges that can't. For example, guess what's at www.toronto.edu?

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    5. Re:Possibly the stupidest idea ever by spyrochaete · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the clarification! I went to an SEO conference recently that encouraged getting linked from .edu domains because they carry a lot of Google link juice, so with this new information I can put my black hat back on. :)

    6. Re:Possibly the stupidest idea ever by Hatta · · Score: 1

      It's still more usable than one with arbitrary TLDs. If I want to visit mybank, do I go to mybank.com? mybank.biz? mybank.bank? mybank.mybank?

      The point I see you arguing, is that there are already too many TLDs. Adding more TLDs is just going to confuse us more.

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  16. This is about money. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    70 million new TLDs means 70 million new registrations. The domain wars all over again. Fight for www.genericword -- That means a lot of money.

    The lawyers should do nicely too.

    1. Re:This is about money. by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Shhhh don't tell people the truth.

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    2. Re:This is about money. by Espinas217 · · Score: 1

      70 million new TLDs means 70 million new registrations. The domain wars all over again. Fight for www.genericword -- That means a lot of money.

      The lawyers should do nicely too.

      I dare to guess it would be worth next to nothing just because most of the people don't type the urls, they just use a search engine to find the site and the search engine will keep indexing the most used site which would be the older .com. Of course that donesn't imply a lot of people would be paing a money to get them but that would be just a waste.
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  17. God help us by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This will only cause more confusion, especially to the average person.

    But they get more $ out of the extra registrations, so we know why it *really* happened.

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    1. Re:God help us by Charbax · · Score: 1

      I think they should make domain registrations free and have a system where users can report domain sharks, spammers and unused or parked domains. I think all TLD should be free and open, ICANN should host the whole system on Google Apps or something like that. So let people register any domain they wish for free. Requirements should be, the system should check all people's IDs. Then there should be a whole system that measures if domains are in use. If someone comes and wants to do something constructive on a parked or sharked domain, then that new person should automatically get the domain handed to them.

    2. Re:God help us by RazzleDazzle · · Score: 1

      Pack up your crap and let's board up the internet folks, it was a fun project but it is time to move on to other more serious matters and not worry about all of the money we at ICANN plan to make with this change and instead you all should focus on... well... ummm... you know...... LOOK, A DISTRACTION!!

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  18. So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...then ICANN has .chzbrgr?

    I'm sorry, I'll show myself out now.

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    1. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Why not just spell it out? Or how about .mcdonalds ?

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    2. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by KGIII · · Score: 1

      (Redundant post alert)

      That, my good man, has just made my day. I'm procrastinating, I have to leave, but now I'm glad I am because I am now able to leave with a giant smile on my face. That was a beautiful thing you just did.

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      "So long and thanks for all the fish."
    3. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by legoman666 · · Score: 1

      You sir, are in the same situation as me. I was about to leave and saw that post. Put a smile on my face.

    4. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Floritard · · Score: 3, Funny

      Whooooooooosh!

    5. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by thermian · · Score: 4, Funny

      that's it, you're banned from the internet..

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    6. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by ldaff · · Score: 2, Informative
    7. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Degrees · · Score: 1

      That was great. Thank you!

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    8. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really with there was a +1000000 Funny.

      Easily the best post ever.

    9. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 1

      You, sir, owe me a coke. I'll handle wiping my keyboard off myself.

    10. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh!

    11. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...then ICANN has .chzbrgr?

      I guess they would have to ask Apple before they could use big.mac

    12. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      You win. Thread is over.

      Well done.

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    13. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you. I needed that.

    14. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      awesome.

    15. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the cancer killing..

      Oh shi- wrong place.

    16. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 1

      I've been reading Slashdot for a decade and that's the first time I've ever LOL over a comment. Well done.

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    17. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loled :D

    18. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Is it a bird? Is it an airplane? No, it's a joke made on Slashdot!

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    19. Re:So if McDonald's wanted a TLD... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fucking newfags.

  19. more cyber-squatting? by pak9rabid · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I what impact this will have on cyber-squatting.

    1. Re:more cyber-squatting? by digitally404 · · Score: 5, Informative

      For now it shant be a problem especially if the new names are expected to cost over $100,000.

    2. Re:more cyber-squatting? by Random+Guru+42 · · Score: 1

      And don't forget the arbitration! Getting lawyers to deal with that stage will probably raise the cost by another $100,000 or so, as long as us complainers keep an eye on things.

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    3. Re:more cyber-squatting? by pbhj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For now it shant be a problem especially if the new names are expected to cost over $100,000. So there's no problem if only the major capitalist players can afford to get in on the action. Who should have the TLD .eco? Greenpeace or some other environmental charity - they won't be able to afford it ... Exxon, Shell, BP, Texaco - that's going to be a great little platform for FUD.
  20. I can think of many companies by LM741N · · Score: 4, Funny

    that should be restricted to the .con domain.

    1. Re:I can think of many companies by legoman666 · · Score: 5, Funny

      .kaaahhhnnnnn ?

  21. Oh no... by drspliff · · Score: 4, Informative

    From a technical point of view I see this as a failure. It's putting more weight on on the root name servers, how long until there are 10,000 TLDs, 100,000 of them? a million? Then there's all the people running the TLDs who may or may not have the infrastructure, technical expertise or long-term stability to properly run one.

    "free market" != stable, there will be thousands of different ways to register sub-domains, some where registrations will not be allowed, some which cost excessive amounts of money and eventually whole TLDs setup to Google-bomb.

    Sure it means people will be able to type in "apple", but what gives one specific company the right over a global use of that trademark name? What about "apple" print design services, "apple" car mechanics all of whom have their own trademarks in that industry.

    I'm just an idealist, and would much prefer ".uk.org.mycompany.www" style domains (remember, thats how it was supposed to work in the beginning but somebody fucked up), but all I can see happening from opening up TLDs is annoyance and instability.

    I'm not even going to comment on ICANN doing this for the money, capitalist pigs.

    1. Re:Oh no... by AnyoneEB · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This article, which I believe I found off a comment from the previous /. article on this topic, discusses a sane way to handle a TLD free-for-all, which actually sounds like it could be better than the current system. Of course, ICANN will likely opt for the profitable way not the sane way if the general consensus on /. about ICANN's greed is at all accurate.

      Yeah, domains in the other order like on usenet would make more sense, but it is quite a few years too late for that.

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    2. Re:Oh no... by Wesley+Felter · · Score: 1

      It's putting more weight on on the root name servers, how long until there are 10,000 TLDs, 100,000 of them? a million? I think tests were done showing that the root servers can handle much more load than they currently serve.

      Then there's all the people running the TLDs who may or may not have the infrastructure, technical expertise or long-term stability to properly run one. ICANN won't let idiots create TLDs. Most of them will probably outsource their registries to VeriSign or Afilias (like the "non-profit" .org).

    3. Re:Oh no... by drspliff · · Score: 1

      I'm thinking long-term when ICANN has re-couped the costs and have ironed out the bugs, then the price drops from $100k to $10k or even lower as ICANN see an opportunity to profit and the overall cost to business of running their own TLD falls below what they already pay.

    4. Re:Oh no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm just an idealist, and would much prefer ".uk.org.mycompany.www" style domains (remember, thats how it was supposed to work in the beginning but somebody fucked up), but all I can see happening from opening up TLDs is annoyance and instability.

      Ahhh, the important little/big-endian debate takes a new turn :)

    5. Re:Oh no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ".uk.org.mycompany.www"?

      What is the point of the uk, org, and www? None of them have any meaning. They just make the address longer, harder to use, and add to the confusion.

      It should just be http://mycompany

    6. Re:Oh no... by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      No problem. We'll take some of the load off nameservers by making the root namespace local (ICANN becomes the American DNS root, ORSN becomes the European one etc.) and add a DNA root qualifier at the end of the domain name. Then we'll add a super-root that points to all DNS roots. So for example www.google.de becomes www.de.google%orsn while www.google.com becomes www.google%icann. billg@microsoft.com becomes billg@microsoft%icann and so on. Maybe not all DNS roots will allow arbitrary TLDs, so in some case you still get stuff like www.google.cn%asiadns. We'll just have to learn the peculiarities and everything will be just fine.

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    7. Re:Oh no... by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      "http://mycompany"?

      What is the point of http, :, and //? None of them have any meaning. They just make the address longer, harder to use, and add confusion.

      It should just be mycompany

    8. Re:Oh no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not even going to comment on ICANN doing this for the money, capitalist pigs.

      You just did, but I'm not even going to tell you that!

    9. Re:Oh no... by Charbax · · Score: 1

      I don't see why ICANN isn't just themselves hosting the whole thing. This way it'll be scalable as they need, they can just use Google Apps to host the whole system for free. They should give out TLDs and domains for free to everyone. Though there should be an international organization where every user can democratically participate which will decide who gets banned, who is determined to be domain sharks, domain spammers, who parks a lot of domains without using them. One should not be able to register domains anonymously and park them to resell them later. If you want a domain, you need a business model or you need to have a reason for wanting to use that domainl, for example it could be for your blog, but there is a limit how many blogs a person can have.

    10. Re:Oh no... by pbhj · · Score: 1

      [...] discusses a sane way to handle a TLD free-for-all [...] ICANN will likely opt for the profitable way not the sane way if the general consensus on /. about ICANN's greed is at all accurate.[...] If they allow a free for all then domain "hijackers" won't be able to ransom the domains to associated companies. The hijacking market will bomb (except for that established for the current TLDs) no company will be able to buy _all_ the domain.tld's possible.

      No, ICANN will keep a tight control releasing only a few every year to ensure that they, and the scammers they are co-depend on, maximise their profits.

      ICANN really do have a license to print money here, who can stop them?

    11. Re:Oh no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I'd rather see us reverse the directory structure to be more sensible than this TLD bonanza nonsense. Of course, I guess it could make sense to do them together. Having google, google.search, google.mail, stuff like that would make much more sense. Much more hierarchical. But the profit isn't in sensible engineering. It's in coming up with more ways to make money.

      ICANNhazmunny?

    12. Re:Oh no... by fermion · · Score: 1
      I am no free market nazi, but it seems that if the market is free, then there will be little issue. To wit, I am not sure if there is any reason why every DNS has to recognize every top level domain, or has to have all data associated with that domain. For instance, if MS has a domain, would it not be technically feasible to not recognize that domain, or as a less drastic measure pass the request to MS servers that will then pass back the more detailed information?

      In any case, this is just a natural progression. First only the fortunate few could get a domain, then only those with cash, now anyone with a tenner can have a domain. I certainly do not believe that most people would consider this a bad thing. Now we are liberalizing the tld. People are saying the sky will fall. People are saying there is not going to work long terms. Well, it is working.

      As far as who has the right to what name, this will likely work as it does now, and there is a decade or so worth experience to make it much more reasonable for the initial internet land grab with domain speculators taking up every word in the english language. Then consider that anyone who wants to play this game has to half a million, and it is clear how it will work out. Every major corporation will own a TLD with their name. THis will have due to experiences with not doing so on the initial land grab. Promotors of celebrities will likely try to get a TLD. Then we will likely see a number of entrepreneurs trying to grab a TLD as part of a new business model. Child friendly domains, specific faiths, etc. This will be the source of the one legitimate complaint. The balkanization of the internet. It will be much easier to protect the masses from unfortunate facts if they are limited to a government or faith controlled TLD.

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    13. Re:Oh no... by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      I really hope you're kidding.

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    14. Re:Oh no... by Lost+Race · · Score: 1

      Kidding? More like mocking. AC's comment was silly. Flattening the global DNS to make URLs easier to type is the wrong approach -- such matters are better handled in web browser software.

    15. Re:Oh no... by raju1kabir · · Score: 1

      Ok, good, I'd rather face the prospect of life with what seems to be a broken sarcasm detector, than a world where someone would seriously be asking that question...

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    16. Re:Oh no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From at technical point of view, you are wrong. Most of the traffic these days are to .com, .org or .net domains (with the two latter being unimportant). We basically already have a flat name space. And we are doing fine, because nobody actually aska the root-servers. They ask their ISP's DNS servers (unless they set up their computers explicitly to use the root servers, which I can guarantee you is not the case).

      Forcing people to guess the correct country is plain-out stupid. Some companies operate in more than one country. Which domain should they have? If I want to download, say, the linux kernel, should I be forced to go to kernel.fi? Oh, and let's actually force people to go to linux.kernel.fi or download.linux.kernel.fi. Written exactly like that, with no reference from kernel.org or kernel.com.

      The price will be so high, this will make it less possible for scammers to cheat people. The banks could go together and buy .bank or each bank could buy their own TLD. With a high enough price point, a scammer cannot fake that as such a domain is useless after a couple of days.

      So, whine all you want. This is actually a good thing.

    17. Re:Oh no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how are limited TLDs any less taxing on the root DNS than, say, alphabetising or any number of other sorting mechanisms? there's no reason to think that more TLDs would be any more taxing than more domains. are you calling for a moratorium on domain registrations, too?

  22. A stupid move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm going to drop any TLD that isn't on the current (as of now) TLD list and I encourage other people operating DNS servers to do the same.

  23. I just can't wait by digitally404 · · Score: 1

    I really, really, hope I can get http://www.ocd.www/

    1. Re:I just can't wait by jmac1492 · · Score: 4, Funny
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  24. So what! by Wowsers · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have .com's .net's and two different country's domains. I have no interest to waste more money on domains just because they changed the end suffix. It will all end up as a fiasco for popular suffix's like .tv (overpriced). No doubt .sex will still not be allowed. Will ICANN allow every registrar to register any .suffix or will that be restricted as well?

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  25. I like the idea, frankly by Luyseyal · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't care if it makes the Internet work like AOL keywords. I don't care if Google, Yahoo!, et al. have to spider inf() more TLDs. I don't care if idiot corporations think they have to buy every version of .m1kr0s0ft and .msf7 out there "just in case". If we can finally get .fuck and .suck, .lol and .is.gay the Internet will finally release its full scientific potential.

    More porn.
    -l

    P.s., Karl Auerbach did experiments showing even BIND could handle umpteen million TLDs.

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  26. well by syrinx · · Score: 1

    On one hand, this makes DNS entirely useless. On the other hand, I (and I think many other people) basically just use Google as a replacement for DNS anyway, so maybe it doesn't matter.

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  27. Ohhhh shit... by ettlz · · Score: 1

    I can see it now. http: //hello.jpg/. Bad, bad, bad.

    1. Re:Ohhhh shit... by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

      I'll bet Web 3.0 Goatse will still look the same as Web 2.0 and Web 1.0. Everything on the web could die off. But like a cockroach, Goatse is a surviver.

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  28. in many ways, this is good by eobanb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you read TFA you'll see that the TLDs will cost upwards of $100,000 and are subject to ICANN approval. That cost and/or approval might be a one time thing, or it might turn out to be annual. Yes, there will be a few idiotic TLDs, but this is probably how it should've been from the beginning. I work for a university IT department and we regularly get calls from users trying to access university sites (most of which use the .edu TLD of course), except that they are trying to use .com instead. Some universities have registered .com domains to redirect to the real site to try and accommodate these people. Our department refuses to do this, and I'm glad. Many people still have the mindset that website == ends in .com and it reinforces that notion. Arbitrary TLDs will slowly change the mindset from thinking that a URL is anything.usually-com to anything.anything. This is probably how DNS should have been from the beginning.

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    1. Re:in many ways, this is good by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "This is probably how DNS should have been from the beginning."
      umm, no.
      DNS exists to make thing easier, and not flat.

      By your logic, you should just have peopel enter the hexadecimal of your IP address. It's what it really is.

      Your department is run by dicks who can't be bother to understand why things are the way they are.

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    2. Re:in many ways, this is good by IdeaMan · · Score: 1

      This is probably how DNS should have been from the beginning. My idea of how DNS should have worked from the beginning is to allow anyone to serve any address.

      The DNS server reports back the top N servers of that address by # of requests for that servers address over the last N days. It would then be up to your OS to decide which one to use.

      This would automatically prevent domain squatting. Just start advertising serving that address and if your site is better than the other one you'll win out.

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    3. Re:in many ways, this is good by JayAitch · · Score: 1

      My school made the mistake of not buying the .com right away and had a .com site devoted to bashing them. There was a whole lawsuit involved with that former student until they eventually settled and bought that DNS. This change should make trademark law interesting.

    4. Re:in many ways, this is good by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, what could possibly go wrong. No way the official Estonian government's website's DNS could be taken over by a botnet in such conditions.

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    5. Re:in many ways, this is good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work for a non-US university department so I find your comments about .edu domains sad :(

    6. Re:in many ways, this is good by raddan · · Score: 1

      If you read TFA you'll see that the TLDs will cost upwards of $100,000 and are subject to ICANN approval. Which is good, because my first thought was: is TLD-tasting the next scam? More TLDs are definitely going to make phishing harder to deal with short of some kind of additional out-of-band information (like... er... what SSL was supposed to provide).
    7. Re:in many ways, this is good by roystgnr · · Score: 1

      If you read TFA

      Which FA? One of the links just says "several thousand dollars", and the others don't mention price at all.

      the TLDs will cost upwards of $100,000

      No, at worst the TLDs will be priced upwards of $100,000. That breaks down to roughly $100 of hardware and administrative costs, and $99,900 of hookers and blow.

    8. Re:in many ways, this is good by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      That's a bit of a troll.

      The whole "everything ends in .com" is a serious issue. That's one of the things that keeps domain name squatting profitable, and forces all these bizarre corporate naming conventions on people.

      I'm hardly advocating a zillion TLDs but having everything that doesn't end in .com be a ghetto is pretty lame as well.

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    9. Re:in many ways, this is good by prockcore · · Score: 1

      I've got news for you. DNS is already flat. If you don't have a .com, you don't exist.

    10. Re:in many ways, this is good by gregmac · · Score: 1

      Is your department one of the ones that also doesn't resolve (or host http on) domain.edu, instead forcing people to use www.domain.edu?

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    11. Re:in many ways, this is good by Lardmonster · · Score: 1

      Yes, there will be a few idiotic TLDs There already are! ".museum"? ".aero"? FFS...!
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    12. Re:in many ways, this is good by Charbax · · Score: 1

      TFA says that the 100 thousand dollar price is going to be for approximately the first 10 or 20 TLDs. Then price for a TLD will probably decrease a lot. The reason for the high price is to cover ICANNs costs of doing this whole open-TLD project. They say in TFA that the costs have been 10 million dollars so far for the system and that the costs will be about 20 million dollars by the time they launch the open-TLD system.

    13. Re:in many ways, this is good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The main problem with GTLD (global top level domains) is that there is no global legal system to arbitrate disputes. There is no such thing as a global trademark, for example. There should be only country-code top-level domains and then each country can figure out how to allocate their namespace within their own legislative and judicial framework.

      It is crazy for the DNS namespace to not be partitioned according to existing legal boundaries. Unfortunately this particular genie left its bottle long ago.

    14. Re:in many ways, this is good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you read TFA you'll see that the TLDs will cost upwards of $100,000 and are subject to ICANN approval. That cost and/or approval might be a one time thing, or it might turn out to be annual. Yes, there will be a few idiotic TLDs, but this is probably how it should've been from the beginning.

      I work for a university IT department and we regularly get calls from users trying to access university sites (most of which use the .edu TLD of course), except that they are trying to use .com instead. Some universities have registered .com domains to redirect to the real site to try and accommodate these people. Our department refuses to do this, and I'm glad. Many people still have the mindset that website == ends in .com and it reinforces that notion.

      Arbitrary TLDs will slowly change the mindset from thinking that a URL is anything.usually-com to anything.anything. This is probably how DNS should have been from the beginning.

      So your users are idiots, and gimping the internet is the solution you prefer to teach them that other TLD's exist?

      You must not work for a very good university.

    15. Re:in many ways, this is good by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      No, no, no. You can't make up for a flat namespace under a single top level domain by overcompensating with a super flat namespace that has even less lip service to hierarchy. All this does is further undermine the administrative structure of the domain name system.

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    16. Re:in many ways, this is good by IdeaMan · · Score: 1

      If the average quality of the information on a botnet was better than the government of Estonia, their website must have really sucked.
      You did raise a good point though. How do I tell a given site is who it says it is?
      On thinking about it, we have the same problem right now, even without something as nefarious as dns cache poisoning.
      It boils down to SSL certificate information type trust issues.

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  29. "As if the internet didn't have enough arbitrary" by Animaether · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "As if the internet didn't have enough arbitrary hodge-podge already."

    It does - just look at Slashdot. It's hardly an 'organization' (.org), especially now that it's owned by a commercial entity (.com). Heck, it started out as somebody's personal little site.. happened to be an american (.us).

    Tons more examples of current sites being on domains that they 'shouldn`t' be in, and also a lot of examples of where that is the case simply because sites change over time.

    So if all of it is pretty much arbitrary anyway, then why not do away with it?

    Heck, some people already have... *entirely*

    For example: http://bi/
    ( disregard any re-direction by browser to www.bi.com ; open a shell, go ping 'bi'. If you're on windows, go ping 'bi.' or it will look for a local host)

    I understand the many technical, psychological, financial, etc. reasons against this. But in terms of organization - we don't have any anyway.

  30. .local by screevo · · Score: 1

    I call .local. Think of how many small company domains that will screw with.

  31. .dumb by zakkie · · Score: 1

    that is .all

  32. In case anyone wants any facts by geekoid · · Score: 4, Informative
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    1. Re:In case anyone wants any facts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4. How will offensive names be prevented?

      Offensive names will be subject to an objection-based process based on public morality and order. This process will be conducted by an international arbitration body utilizing criteria drawing on provisions in a number of international treaties. ICANN will not be the decision maker on these objections.

      I smell big trouble.

    2. Re:In case anyone wants any facts by Luxifer · · Score: 1

      Facts? I think you want Digg. This is Slashdot. We never let facts get in the way of a good discussion here. Especially if it means R'ing TFA.

  33. Slashdotted already? by Scorchio · · Score: 3, Funny

    I keep trying, but I can't get to this site. :(

    1. Re:Slashdotted already? by RealGrouchy · · Score: 2, Funny

      .dot is actually owned by the Department of Transport, and if you've ever waited in line at the DMV, you'll understand why that page is taking so long to load.

      - RG>

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  34. Great idea. Terrible implementation. by ivan256 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Instead of letting people own/register a TLD, they should have just let people register domains in *any* TLD.

    1. Re:Great idea. Terrible implementation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Instead of letting people own/register a TLD, they should have just let people register domains in *any* TLD.

      But who would ICANN charge $100,000 to then?

  35. Hello www.m.i.c.r.o.s.o.f.t, www.m.i.c.r.o.s.o.ft, by mkcmkc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Frankly, I fail to see how this is an improvement, as opposed to (say) yanking Network Solutions' monopoly...

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  36. Back to the future by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And so it comes full circle. The ancient flat hosts file that the ARPAnet used way back in it's early days, the one that was abandoned in favor of hierarchical DNS because it wasn't possible to manage a flat namespace when the net was a few thousand machines, returns. What, you think the companies that insist on registering every variation of their name in every domain in existence won't insist on having their own TLD too? And we'll be back to hostnames being of the form "ford". And "fordfocus". And "focus". And "myfocus". And "myford". All belonging to Ford Motors. And the inevitable fights when Focus Magazine (a fine-art photography magazine) also wants "focus" and has the trademark to justify getting it just as much as Ford.

    Siiiiiigh...

    1. Re:Back to the future by 7+digits · · Score: 1

      Well, it is the old host file back, but, with a price tag of 100.000$ a line.

      This should limit it quite a bit, and fill some people's pockets with money (which is the point).

      Of course, don't expect being able to register any sub-domain in the new domains, it'll belong to companies and very rich individuals.

      Do you remember the time when having a .com address was considered ugly (people had .org, .net or .edu. .com was for /businesses/, and that was considered evil all over usenet)? I do. Amazing the change monetization can bring to anything...

    2. Re:Back to the future by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Let's not forget that there can be international clashes as well. For (an admittedly somewhat unlikely) example, the small town of Ibm, Austria might register the .ibm TLD before the International Business Machines Corporation does. To the people of Ibm, .ibm clearly applies much better to their town than to some corporation that happens to have a similar acronym.

      Or some patriotic Germans (read: most likely the NPD) register .brd and get unfriendly letters from Sony who demand the TLD that clearly references their Blu-Ray Disk format.

      And who gets .fox? Fox Network? 20th Century? Volkswagen?
      Will .wb go to Warner Brothers or the World Bank - or maybe Rwandair Express?
      Will Advanced Micro Devices, Dassault Aviation or the Indian Atomic Minerals Directorate for Exploration and Research get .amd?


      Yeah, this is going to result in some very expensive lawsuits.

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    3. Re:Back to the future by Logic+and+Reason · · Score: 1

      To the people of Ibm, .ibm clearly applies much better to their town than to some corporation that happens to have a similar acronym. And this is different from ibm.com how? Yes, yes, '.com' is supposed to mean 'commercial', but nobody knows that. Your argument could just as easily have been made about DNS in general (and probably was!), but we seem to have worked that out all right.
    4. Re:Back to the future by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      ibm.at applies better to Ibm than ibm.com does. IBM also has that (as I admitted, Ibm is rather unlikely to compete with IBM for domains), but that would be the far more logical choice to make. Outside the USA .com is not assumed to be the one TLD everyone uses. Local-language sites are expected to use the local ccTLD (a concept virtually unheard of in the states); .com is mostly used by corporations who want all their sites under one central domain or people who didn't get a local-ccTLD domain with their name.

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  37. Give me . corn by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    I could see scammers with good old names like paypal.corm, paypal.con, paypal.GOM, paypal.C0M, paypal.CQM, paypal.COH... All these neet tricks to make people think they are going to a spot where if their eyes were anybit blurry would miss.

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  38. This is stupid - here is the solution:* by I+Want+to+be+Anonymo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A meeting of the minds between Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft resulting in an agreement to not index these idiotic domains could kill this quick before it gets out of hand.

    *Will it happen - doubtful.
      Can you or I do anything about it - probably not.
      But I can dream.

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  39. So now we can have eg .jpg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a really bad idea. The idea that a URL can end with a dot and a short suffix that's not one of a small, rarely changing, set means that you can't easily tell the difference between a URL and a file. What happens if someone registers '.jpg' or '.html'?

    The possibilities for frauds and phishing and god-alone-only-knows-what-else has just increased exponentially.

  40. Can I haz www.www.www by kindbud · · Score: 1

    www.yahoodotcom
    com.yahoo.wwwslashslashcolonhttp
    in-addr.arpa.168.192
    java.lang.Throwable
    slash.dotorg

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  41. This could be bad by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 1

    Although I like the idea of allowing arbitrary TLDs, I think allowing companies to own entire TLDs is, for the most part, a bad idea. The last thing I want to see is for new generic domains to become the foundation for a new model of unregulated registries (where the first to register a TLD gets full rights over its subdomains).

    Also... the article brings up the issue of name censorship: "Susan Crawford, another board member, expressed concern about the provisions for rejecting domain names as a result of governments, on grounds of public order and morality, or Internet users, on the grounds that they were offended. She asked the board to limit such provisions as much as possible." Where can I find more information about these provisions? Do they apply to TLDs, or will all domain registrations be subject to censorship?

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  42. Won't this eventually end up like usenet? by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know, with all kinds of domain names like:

    alt.binaries.go.pound.sand.up.your.ass
    comp.sys.obscure.programming.language.that.only.six.remaining.bearded.men.even.remember
    can.forsale.illegal.bootleg.dvds.buffy.vampire.slayer

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    1. Re:Won't this eventually end up like usenet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favorite:

      alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die

      No offense to Wil Wheaton, who seems like a genuinely nice fellow.

    2. Re:Won't this eventually end up like usenet? by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      I'm not seeing a problem, frankly. Right now you could do that as well, you'd just have to add ".com" on the end of a url with a bunch of subdomains, though I'm sure someone has "ass.com", so that might put a crimp in things.

      The obsession over having a unique, short, domain name with a dot com tld is annoying. That's the only thing I really like about the so-called awesomebar; it makes it a lot easier to never have to type a url.

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    3. Re:Won't this eventually end up like usenet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .purplemonkeydishwasher

    4. Re:Won't this eventually end up like usenet? by Eil · · Score: 1

      You can already do that with the current DNS, the heirarchy is just reversed:

      this.would.be.such.an.example.com

      Similarly, WHOIS spamming seems to be all the rage these days. Just register some fake nameservers and you're all set. Use the standard unix 'whois' command to check it out. Depending on the WHOIS server you hit, you'll get entries like:

      MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.LIVE.FOREVER.BECOUSE.UNIXSUCKS.COM

      MICROSOFT.COM.SOFTWARE.IS.NOT.USED.AT.REG.RU

      MICROSOFT.COM.WILL.BE.SLAPPED.IN.THE.FACE.BY.MY.BLUE.VEINED.SPANNER.NET

      Yet another abuse of the Internet that nobody seems to care about.

    5. Re:Won't this eventually end up like usenet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shouldn't that be "die.die.die.crusher.wesley.alt."?

      It would be kinda neat if Google bought "alt." and used it in conjunction with Google Groups.

      AC because I am in an airport.

    6. Re:Won't this eventually end up like usenet? by Moekandu · · Score: 1

      Too bad it's out of my price range. I'd like to own .domedomedomerighthereonthecoffeetable.

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    7. Re:Won't this eventually end up like usenet? by Carlos+Laviola · · Score: 1

      If by "these days" you mean "the past decade", then yes. These are just people using glue records to promote their domains or to poke fun at major companies.

  43. Makes no difference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    .com, .net, and .org domains will still hold the most legitimacy. How many large companies have you seen switch to predominantly .biz or .info domains?

  44. Re:"As if the internet didn't have enough arbitrar by Random+Destruction · · Score: 1

    hm. interesting. how does one register one of these?

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  45. too much deregulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you say "CHAOS" ??

  46. woohoo! by Lazyrust · · Score: 1

    I cant wait to register .pr0n as in www.midget.pr0n

  47. The rich take all? by Excelcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem I have is with the dispute resolution system. According to Paul Twomey of ICANN (as quoted by the BBC), "[i]f there is a dispute, we will try and get the parties together to work it out. But if that fails there will be an auction and the domain will go to the highest bidder."

    So, I pick a name, and McDeepPockets comes along and thinks, hey, that's a great idea - I'll just take that, thank-you. They "dispute" it, and ICANN's response is... well, if you really can't settle your differences, high bidder gets it. Wow... that's going to make for a pretty mercenary internet.

    1. Re:The rich take all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool! So instead of buying Yahoo, MS can just put a bid on the whole .com TLD...

    2. Re:The rich take all? by Eil · · Score: 2, Informative

      So, I pick a name, and McDeepPockets comes along and thinks, hey, that's a great idea - I'll just take that, thank-you. They "dispute" it, and ICANN's response is... well, if you really can't settle your differences, high bidder gets it. Wow... that's going to make for a pretty mercenary internet.

      You say this as if it were a new policy of some kind... ICANN has always operated this way.

    3. Re:The rich take all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there a mechanism to keep TLD from being objected to multiple times?

      In other words, McDeepPockets wins the auction ... when McLittleGuy (or McLittleGuy2) files another objection ... does the TLD go back to auction?

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  49. Good by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    I'm happy to see this. I have advocated this for years. TLDs just don't make any sense to me anymore. Now it's finally there. Never mind that it's probably just a way for them to make more money.

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  50. URL correction by Excelcia · · Score: 1

    Sorry, pasted the wrong thing. The BBC article I referenced is here.

  51. Problems by Pig+Hogger · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Ther will be some problems... If you look in the release,

    4. How will offensive names be prevented?

    Offensive names will be subject to an objection-based process based on public morality and order. This process will be conducted by an international arbitration body utilizing criteria drawing on provisions in a number of international treaties. ICANN will not be the decision maker on these objections.

    This will obviously not work.

    One innocent word in a language can be an offensive word in another. For exemple, the french word for "seal" is phoque, which is pronounced exactly like you think it is.

    And even in the same language, various countries will give totally different meanings to a given word. Think of "lift" -vs- "elevator", "boot" -vs- "trunk" or "crisps" -vs- "chips"...

    And it can be even worse; for example, in France, gosses means "children", whereas in Québec, it means "testicles".

    1. Re:Problems by Just+some+bastard · · Score: 5, Funny

      And it can be even worse; for example, in France, gosses means "children", whereas in Québec, it means "testicles".
      Won't somebody think of the testicles?
    2. Re:Problems by Quattro+Vezina · · Score: 1

      And in Australia, "root" means "to have sex with".

      Gives new meaning to the term "rooting your machine" (technophilia?).

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    3. Re:Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In North America, "fanny" means your backside.
      In Britain, "fanny" means something else (look it up) in the crotch area of the female

    4. Re:Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dibs on .muhammad!

    5. Re:Problems by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Now I just need to convince the Austrian village of Fucking to ask ICANN why it can't have its own TLD. Once it has finally worn down ICANN/the committee enough to get its TLD (after all, "Fucking" isn't offensive at all in Austria and the surrounding countries) it will make a buttload of money giving domains to porn sites.

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    6. Re:Problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice meme.

  52. Shorter by apankrat · · Score: 1
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  53. Ok by smoker2 · · Score: 1

    Can we all agree now to block anything new that comes out. That way the spammers won't have an audience, and everybody else will keep what they have anyway. Plus it will piss off ICANN if nobody uses them.

    1. Re:Ok by thogard · · Score: 1

      I already block info and mobi but blacklisting will get out of hand.
      Someone needs to come up with a whitelist zone records for country codes and sane TLDs
      and a nice simple HOWTO doc to set it up.

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  55. ICANN and the Search for More Money by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

    The only real reason they can possibly have made this decision is to get the really large pile of cash from selling these domains.

    Maybe they're just sick of GoDaddy, Network Solutions, etc taking away all the fun of selling an infinite resource.

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  56. Damned auto-formatting by apankrat · · Score: 1

    I meant this of course -

    http:///.
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  57. Red Light district by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why create a district when you can have the entire Internet to push porn?

    The point of a .XXX TLD was to accommodate simple filtering, i.e., a school or business could block all .XXX access and therefore block all porn.

    For a porn site, that's no good. The reason that porn shops don't exist in every mall is that no one wants to be seen by their neighbors going there. So they are in less-visible areas and have remote parking. On the Internet, the opposite os true, they are in "plain sight" with all the other .com sites.

    This move to more TLD's is just about the money. I wager that after the initial flurry, it will go the way of Microsoft Bob.

    BTW, how are those "other" TLDs like .biz doing? Crappy, huh?

  58. Tolkien TLDs for the win! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool, we can have .ent and .orc domains. I mistype those all the time anyways.

  59. Mayhem! by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    I gotta register the .msft tld and watch Windows servers worldwide flip out!

    Bahahahaha! Thousands of MSCE instructors will be tarred and feathered for telling us to 'just name your domain something .msft. It won't cause any problems!'.

    Hehe. I may get bacl into the LAN consulting business just to ca$h in. Easy money, fixing stuff the MCSEs do...

     

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  60. Re:"As if the internet didn't have enough arbitrar by assassinator42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Get someone who controls a TLD to set up an A (or AAAA if you have IPv6 connectivity) record for it.

  61. New tag for this one by Thelasko · · Score: 1

    suddenbreakdownofcommonsense

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  62. ICANN and IANA Sites Defaced by cryptodan · · Score: 2, Informative

    ICANN and IANA Websites defaced: Zone-H.org Reports ICANN and IANA's sites defaced

    1. Re:ICANN and IANA Sites Defaced by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They weren't defaced. Apparently the DNS records were changed. They don't say which DNS records though so it could have been some DNS cache or something, who knows... Probably not the root server DNS... meh, this was nothing. icann.com goes to the real site for me.

  63. I don't understand the problem by p3d0 · · Score: 1

    How is this any different or worse than the current situation in, say, the .com namespace?

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    1. Re:I don't understand the problem by drspliff · · Score: 1

      Because there's still order to the chaos, which in this case is the TLD maintainer.

  64. new Domains by seconnection · · Score: 1

    The possibilities are endless!!!

  65. lolz by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    omg,

    ICANNhas.tldz !

  66. I thought the whole point was.... by mario_grgic · · Score: 1

    that you would not have to type .com or .org any more.

    You will type just google to take you to the current google.com, and pizzahut to go to pizza hut's website, or Audi to go to Audi.com website.

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    1. Re:I thought the whole point was.... by ribit · · Score: 1

      Safari does this already. Typing 'audi' in the address bar goes to www.audi.com

    2. Re:I thought the whole point was.... by mario_grgic · · Score: 1

      Right, you can do the same by typing in the google search box and click on I'm feeling lucky.

      But the point is that e.g. "google" would be mapped to google's website at the DNS level.

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  67. Then what's the point of subdomains. by Stopher2475 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    By expannding the TLC to anything what is the point of having subdomains in the first place? This is basically just reselling the value of anyone who bought a .com address.

    1. Re:Then what's the point of subdomains. by hoojus · · Score: 1

      But if there was more TLC there would be less wars and we wouldn't fight over the TLDs.

  68. http://[2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7348]/ by Z-MaxX · · Score: 3, Funny

    And make sure it's an IPv6 address!

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  69. This concerns me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    What about pseudo TLDs? For instance the .onion and .exit used by Tor. If any string of characters can be a valid address we won't be able to count on using special name for other purposes anymore. I can imagine how this could have significant security implications as well. This will also put a damper on the (already damp) attempts to create alternative DNS systems, since, again, there will be no names that can be counted on not to conflict anymore.

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  71. Re:http://[2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7348 by Jester998 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is that your web site on this business card, or a PGP signature? :)

  72. www.goat.sex by tensop · · Score: 1

    Finally, i can register a domain dedicated purely to the anatomy of male and female goats :)

  73. Google has been undone here. by unity100 · · Score: 1

    either 'goo' or 'goog'. thats too bad. or maybe 'gog'.

    while we're at it, i'd like to procure the extension .shit myself.

  74. I want to register .con by GuruBuckaroo · · Score: 1

    Then have a wildcard responder that takes ANY mispelled ".com" name that's actually typed with ".con" and sends it to exploit installing sites. Holy crap - would make the storm worm look like a gentle breeze worm.

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  75. We could create our own DNS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with blackjack and hookers!

    But seriously, perhaps we could, and than just shovel the who ICANN shit heap under .shitheap or something.

  76. Dillon Edwards Investments by hklingon · · Score: 1

    $100 to the first person to setup a Dillon Edwards Investments site at ClownPenis.fart. (It is an old and prophetic SNL skit.. for those of you that may not know)

  77. Big win against stupidity by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 1

    This is great. Right now you've got all the "protect our brand" people registering their domain names in .com, .net, .org, and often in .info, .tv, etc. just because they don't want someone else to have it.

    Now, there will be so many TLD's that the "protect our brand" people couldn't possibly cover them all.

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    1. Re:Big win against stupidity by mazarin5 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      This is great. Right now you've got all the "protect our brand" people registering their domain names in .com, .net, .org, and often in .info, .tv, etc. just because they don't want someone else to have it.

      Now, there will be so many TLD's that the "protect our brand" people couldn't possibly cover them all.

      Maybe this could have the benefit, that instead of snatching up every possible combination, that companies would pick just a few common ones and hold their ground there. I would like to imagine that this would end disputes over TLDs, eg nissan.
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  78. Re:Problems - Dutch for cannot is rude! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Dutch "kunt" means "cant".

  79. Problems with email address parsers by bazim2 · · Score: 1

    I imagine this will create a problem with common email address parsers. Many email parsers at the moment look for an @ symbol and [incorrectly] at least one dot in the domain name. If this becomes widespread I would imagine that: steve@apple bill@microsoft john@smith type email addresses will become popular, as MX records start to become attached to top-level-domains much more frequently than they are now.

  80. My TLD by Freddy872 · · Score: 1

    The second I can, I want to get a bunch of TLDs, and sell them to big companies, for a huge profit. How much would IBM pay for a .IBM, or Sony for a .PS3? xD

  81. www.google.ocm by Iron+Chef+Unix · · Score: 1

    It seems like it could be fairly profitable to buy .ocm and .cmo, at least the way I type sometimes.

    I would just direct *.cmo to a page that says, "I see you mistyped *.com, please click on the ad below to be redirected to your page."

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  82. http://localhost by Tweenk · · Score: 1

    Does this mean that http://localhost/ is now a potentially valid domain name?

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  83. COM is already 'level 0' by argent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hey, I was all about opening up the TLDs back in the '80s, I worked on getting one of the first open TLDs (.dot) running under The Internet Namespace Cooperative (TINC). But it doesn't matter any more.

    Because "COM" is "the" top level. Who the hell cares about "name" or "per" or the rest of the "we are not COM, but..." domains? It's too late, it's a done deal, "COM" is the top level, everything else is parochial.

    So don't fight over who's going to be ".sex", people will still pay more for "sex.com", and when you say your email address is "you@yourname" you better make sure that "you@yourname.com" works as well.

    1. Re:COM is already 'level 0' by mgbastard · · Score: 2

      It's completely subject to change if .com is marketed as the old, untrustworthy, dirty, etc. internet by companies who want to establish their TLD.

      I think if we give it 20 years, .com could be relegated to .biz importance.

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    2. Re:COM is already 'level 0' by argent · · Score: 2

      20 years?

      Ye Gods, I think if we "give it 20 years", anything could happen.

      20 years ago the Internet was something only geeks knew about, and the closest thing to the world wide web was Hypercard.

    3. Re:COM is already 'level 0' by otmar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This a quite US-centric view.

      In most other countries, the local ccTLD is the default where people look for company websites.

  84. An excerpt of the ICANN General Assembly by dodecalogue · · Score: 1
    This was posted on the ICANN "General Assembly" mailing-list a little while ago by Joe Baptista. (I strongly encourage anyone interested in these matters to watch this list.) from http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/msg01655.html

    > The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann), which acts
    > as a sort of regulator for the net as well as overseeing the domain name
    > system, has been working towards opening up net addresses for the last three
    > years.
    >

    This is so much bullshit. What happened three years ago is Joe Baptista went to the Netherlands and terminated an ICANN experiment hereinafter known as HEX. The experiment involving such entities as INAIC and the Unifiedroot et al. Now I terminated the experiment in August of 2005. ICANN had been monitoring their activities for some time. The experiment proved very successful. It showed anyone can run a root or a tld and furthermore made it very clear that the market demand for TLDs was there and would be met with or without ICANNs participation.

    As a result there are now thousands of independent TLDs and many countries participating in providing TLD services. Those people who know ICANN is nothing more then a smoke screen also known they have no control over the root.

    Turkey is the first country that signed up to my little experiment in the Netherlands. That rocked ICANNs boat big time. There are now hundreds if not thousands of new TLDs in Turkey.

    When ICANN started up it tried to convince the world it was a monopoly. The world has poopood that as utter nonsense.
  85. Why the change? by QJimbo · · Score: 1

    What I don't understand, is why did they decide to do this now? When they created the internet they must have decided on com/net/org for a reason, rather than letting people just do what they want? What's the reasoning? Money?

  86. My new car by lazyDog86 · · Score: 1

    So now my new Chrysler can not only have wireless internet access, but maybe I can hack a web server into it and put it up at www.lazyDog.shittychrysler

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  87. Re:Problems - Dutch for cannot is rude! by mazarin5 · · Score: 1

    So what does that mean for Immanuel Kant?

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  88. So where can I reserve some TLDs? by vux984 · · Score: 1

    I want google, apple, microsoft, dell, toshiba, ibm, sun, cocacola, kraft, xxx, java, porsche, ferrari, and slashdot, for starters. More to come shortly.

  89. that's ruined a shit load of regular expressions by justdrew · · Score: 2, Interesting

    stupid and useless bullshit. My expectation is no one will ever use this shit. when I see google.com I KNOW it's a url. when I see search.google it looks like a typo

  90. more differing shit to remember by celle · · Score: 1

    That's it, I'm going back to the numbers. That way when the name services fail at least I be the first to post.

  91. I know which ones I want! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm registering .localdomain and .localhost just for good measure. All your default linux installs are belong to me.

  92. Re:fristy poss by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hello, I represent the Gay Nigger Association of America, and hereby order you to cease and desist the use of our acronym (GNAA).

  93. Re:Problems - Dutch for cannot is rude! by BrentH · · Score: 1

    Actually it means 'can' as in 'yes we can'.

  94. You are forgetting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that http://slash. is a perfectly resolvable name, going right to the slash tld

  95. Phishing by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wait until someone registers the .con TLD. http://www.mybank.con/

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  96. Centralised tracking of queries. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This will make it nearly impossible to resolve queries by any other means than by direct root server queries. Sure, you probably query some suspect .com server everyday, but it's different than hitting the same root servers everytime for every query.

    Dynamic tlds means you need to go to the source of the entire tree every time you resolve. One stop shopping for government data mining.

  97. asdfasdfs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    afdsafs

  98. .xxx alternative by taupin · · Score: 1

    Instead of .xxx, they should have gone for .cum

    1. Re:.xxx alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, no lesbian porn????

  99. ICANN = Sold Out by mgbastard · · Score: 1

    So big businesses and media brands can have their own TLD brand, and small and midsize players will be relegated to that "poor untrustworthy" .com. So much for the internet being a level playing field. ICANN is a non-profit, but there would be no prohibition against their directors who vote from being lobbied and bought and paid for. A parting gift from the Bush Administration's worse than worthless Commerce Department to big business.

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  100. What a disaster.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    icann.WTF ???

    Ok the first thing to happen will be the registration of .lol and then .omg ... and then like .omgwut

    things may get as bad as..

    insertlameassworldofwarcraftclan.wow

    jackthompson.shutup

    This is terrible...

  101. Assholes by myspace-cn · · Score: 1

    What was their problem before?

  102. Numeric TLD? by noidentity · · Score: 1

    How about the .256 domain for geek sites?

    1. Re:Numeric TLD? by Tatsh · · Score: 1

      and .2600 for hackers

    2. Re:Numeric TLD? by noidentity · · Score: 1

      I think my joke was lost. The idea was to allow sites like 192.168.1.256, which only a geek would find novelty in.

  103. Better for MS users.. by dbcad7 · · Score: 1

    As they are used to blindly clicking them anyway.. I suggest .exe

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  104. this will clash with local domains by Khopesh · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, I know .localdomain won't be available, but what about users and systems within local networks that tend to function on alternate (internal-only) and implied (non-canonicalized) domains?

    Let's say I have a partitioned office network at the company Foo Powers.  My workstation is khopesh.office.foopowers.com (which is NAT'ed).  From another system within the office, I'd probably just run   ssh khopesh   to get there (which implies khopesh.office.foopowers.com).  To log into the web server (which lives in the DMZ), I'd run   ssh www.dmz   and to get back to my system,   ssh khopesh.office   would do the trick. ... Under an infinite number of TLDs, this isn't reliable.

    There are cool SSH tricks you can do to traverse NATs; I have it rigged so that from home, I can run   ssh khopesh.office   and get in.  This triggers an entry in my ~/.ssh/config that looks like this (the first entry fits the above example.  the second entry allows me to define an arbitrary extension to trigger a proxy rule and then remove the extension inside the proxy):

    Host *.office
      ProxyCommand ssh proxy.office.foopowers.com nc -w 1 %h %p
    Host *.foo
      ProxyCommand ssh proxy.office.foopowers.com nc -w 1 $(echo %h|sed s/\.foo$//) %p

    While a real .office or .foo TLD wouldn't stop this from working, I'd prefer a lookup failure to a key mis-match when trying such a command from a machine lacking the above config.

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  105. Simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why not ditch this idea and instead beginning resolving single element addresses as the .com address in the client.
    E.g. http://google/ resolves to http://google.com/
    No fuss, no bother, little cost and no trademark battles.
    On the downside, no money for ICANN.

  106. I claim squatting rights by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

    I want .ocm .om and .cm!

  107. Re:abuse by Cybah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Imagine if some company bought the .local and started to be able to randomly answer requests from around the world of millions of potential queries? Yeah, on first thought there ought to be some form of "private domain space" declared. Many people have been using .local .intranet .train etc knowing that these would *never* be registered in the future.

    Think about mobile devices. On the correct LAN, the local nameservers always answer these queries because they're configured to be authoritative. However, when away from that LAN, a few well-placed wildcard records would create a nice honeypot.

  108. Trunk My Computer by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

    hink of "lift" -vs- "elevator", "boot" -vs- "trunk" or "crisps" -vs- "chips"...

    OK, I give - in what country do you trunk your computer?

    Over in the US we only trunk VLAN's.

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  109. Re:http://[2001:0db8:85a3:08d3:1319:8a2e:0370:7348 by complete+loony · · Score: 1

    Both!
    Plus you can also use it to decrypt HD movies.

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  110. Pluses and negatives by mattpointblank · · Score: 1

    It's sad, no longer will we be impressed by creative TLD usage like del.icio.us, when every Average Joe can register www.average.joe

  111. Future Coding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm no techie, but I was wondering if opening up TLS's to anything might cause conflicts with future coding environments, such as with file extensions. "Slashdot.doc", for example. It seems there is the potential of putting unfair burdens and restrictions on end-users...

    Like I said I'm not techie, just curious.

  112. Domain sharks are very sad today. by Charbax · · Score: 1

    I think this is fantastic news. This means the value of .com .tv .eu and all other current TLD domain sharks today all have gone bankrupt. This is the news they hoped would not happen. I think that the new rules should be following: - The Democracy involved at ICANN should rule on sharked, spammed or unused domains. As well as trademarks automatically are monitored using a database so suspicious attempts at registering trademarks will be identified. - ICANN should control the whole system themselves using a central Google Apps like infrastructure that can scale to cover all TLD and all domains for the whole world. - Domains should be free, no price, nada. Other then perhaps a very small fee to cover the costs of maintaining the whole DNS, database and ICANN controlling system. Thus price for a domain should be probably less than 1 dollar per domain per year. ICANN should remove all the domain registrar business, we don't need it. The price of a domain should be public knowledge and nobody should pay more than that price. - To register a domain you need to give your real identity to ICANN, you have to register your business and be able to submit tax papers and government controlled verification in case of a conflict. This will be just like newsgroups, the value of .com and all current TLDs will decrease, and now the value instead is going to be the content and the relevancy. Today is a great day for democracy online, for relevancy of searches, for the quality of the content online, for the semantic web and for the freedom of speech.

  113. Foreign languages by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think the more interesting development is the approval of non-romanized addressing.

    ããf©ããf¥ãfãffãf.ããf, anyone?

    It seems as though these changes are harmful to the end-user, although if you're Japanese or Russian you might think differently.

  114. oh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i'm going to register localhost.

    1. Re:oh by RPoet · · Score: 1

      Nice try, but .localhost is a reserved TLD along with .invalid, .example, and .test.

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  115. The Capitol by BCW2 · · Score: 1

    The Capitol needs:

      congress.dumbass

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  116. All the better to mislead you with... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For those who are in the agriculture industry, how about making use of the .corn TLD? Just imagine the scamming potential.

  117. .dot by Ngarrang · · Score: 1

    I would like to register .dot and then give /. a domain in it. And then, of course, dot.dot, just so I can hear people say it out loud.

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  118. Stupid Noob Question..... by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

    Is it possible to not use ICANN or refuse to comply with their rules?

    I'm not on the up and up when it comes to networking and IT and such so please try to keep that in mind!

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    1. Re:Stupid Noob Question..... by RPoet · · Score: 1

      Yes, you can use any of the available alternative DNS roots, or start your own.

      By the way, "newbie" is spelt "newbie" </geezer>

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  119. Re:"As if the internet didn't have enough arbitrar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Incidentally, in Firefox, use http://bi./ to avoid redirection

  120. no words on unicode? by mnbjhguyt · · Score: 1

    on a non-tech radio news this morning I heard something about non-latin characters being allowed, any word on this?
    what happens to punycode??

  121. Are you going to pay my bills ? by freaker_TuC · · Score: 1

    For every language a domain, very costly job.
    Knowing there will be atleast 10 languages that will be used mostly.

    Just made my costs grow tenfold!

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  122. Bogus eMail addresses by Burlador · · Score: 1

    When posting comments on blogs etc., I frequently use nonsense eMail addresses like spam@not.wanted or send.me@no.mail. Don't blame me for the spam they'll get. How shold I have known that they'd become real addresses some day?

  123. Re:"As if the internet didn't have enough arbitrar by Stellian · · Score: 1

    Tons more examples of current sites being on domains that they 'shouldn`t' be in

    No amount of policing the tld system will fix that, it's a fundamental issue: TLDs track a single feature, while sites can be defined by any number of characteristics, and there's no easy way to find a dominant one. Think Gmail's tags versus plain folders. A site can be at the same time non profit (.org), US based(.us), and pornographic (.xxx).
    In short, there's no point in expecting that the TLD give correct info about the site's content or about the entity that runs it. At best, a TLD should be easy to remember, no more.

  124. AT is already 'level 0' by argent · · Score: 1

    In most other countries, the local ccTLD is the default where people look for company websites.

    Granted, but that doesn't make a skerrick of difference to my point: you're still not going to look for www.at.google instead of google.co.at, yesno?

  125. Diluted Value of Existing Domain Names? by ikailo · · Score: 1

    I suspect that speculators who have paid good money for a .com domain name, knowing that the 'neighbors' (.net, .org) are limited will lose out with this deal. It's like building a mansion in a prime location, but then having a trailer park pop up next door just before you're about to sell.

  126. Huh? by p3d0 · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I don't know how the TLD system works. Can you be more specific?

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    1. Re:Huh? by drspliff · · Score: 1

      Some TLD registries have requirements that you be a citizen of that country, follow certain guidelines or keep costs high enough to discourage domain campers.

      Other registries like Verisign who manage .com really don't give a flying fuck, they have poor dispute policies and are very much in it for the money (with ICANN's approval) - their policies are "if you have money we will give you a domain"; this is bad, but still bearable because Verisign are limited to the .com TLD.

      This is turning ICANN into an open top-level registry, gone will be the stringent entry requirements (you must be a country or have a good viable cause to require a TLD), they are effectively becoming a registry and registrar all in one with top-picks in the global namespace.

      ICANN is an American corporation with no governmental or world-wide oversight, it's role is supposed to be technical and not commercial.

    2. Re:Huh? by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Ok, very interesting. Thanks.

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  127. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'We are opening up a new world and I think this cannot be underestimated,' said Roberto Gaetano, an ICANN board member.

    I assume he means 'overestimated'.

  128. Get ready... by Dirtside · · Score: 1

    ...for the .con TLD, which will confuse legions of Internet users into clicking on evil links, and has the added bonus of being poetically appropriate for that use :)

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  129. www.artist.con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    phishers and typo-abusers rejoice!

  130. register .local, .localdomain, .int by zbowling · · Score: 1

    I call .local, .localdomain, and .int. Every local and private intranet and local machine be damned!

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    1. Re:register .local, .localdomain, .int by thalassinos · · Score: 1

      .int is a valid TLD today. See http://www.nato.int/ and http://www.un.int/

  131. Re:abuse by Thundersnatch · · Score: 1

    Well, there's always RFC 2606. But naming your Active Directory domain "mycompany.invalid" seems a bit harsh.

  132. Not that much to ICANN TLD decision by TeknoFin · · Score: 1

    There are loads of details to be worked out, and even when that happens there won't be a rush for new TLDs. Cost, need to navigatge the arcane ICANN process, responsibility for resolution and lack of pressing need IMO will prevent any significant new TLDs from emerging. Here's a longer take: http://cparente.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/what-the-heck-is-icann-doing-with-domain-names/ Please drop comment if you think I've got it wrong.