Actually, I find the answers here in the comments to this askslashdot question more informative than what the linux distro chooser that was the first search result yielded from that lesson on googling gave. (In fact, for me, that distro chooser should have given the answer debian unstable and debian testing, but it didn't ask quite all the right questions (and/or it's logic didn't fit my philosophy.))
I'd advise the op to maybe try your funny link out for fun, but to rather read the comments here for more thorough information.
I think choosing one that's very similar is a great idea, small changes are a lot easier than big ones after all. Maybe if she's able to figure out she can do everything in Linux that she can in the other OSes she'll stick with it.
But, maybe, if she's subjected to a more different perspective, she might gain some even deeper insight about concepts of computer usage...
As opposed to a LiveCD I would recommend installing it on a flash drive instead. The flash drive can be written to, so it can behave more like a real OS (allow you to persist files and settings after a reboot) and its just quicker than CD/DVD.
So, what exactly have you done to not support Chinese? Do you buy products that have been only made and manufactured in the US, even if its higher price? Do you own iPhone or any other known mobile phone? Does any of your product read Made in China? Instead of blaming Microsoft for doing business with Chinese, what about you taking the first step?
Yes, it is good to recognize that oneself plays a part as a cog in the machinery. As a wise man once said:
"Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! Aaow! (Yeah-Make That Change) Gonna Make That Change . . . Come On! (Man In The Mirror) You Know It! You Know It! You Know It! You Know . . . (Change . ..) Make That Change. "
But, it is also unfortunately the case that us little consumers don't really run the world. You and I, individually, might be on top of things, at least a bit, using our purchasing power for good, but on the whole, the notion that consumers rule is false. Even if they technically might, we actually don't, because we buy what they tell us to buy (not you and me individually, but all of us in aggregate).
The consumerist, vote-with-your-wallet-perspective is often useful, but one should not neglect to also look at it from the perspective that maybe the rich and powerful actually are running the show. (Besides, they have very large wallets and some of them have very many guns, even).
It is convenient for the superpowers and mega-corps if we think consumers have the power. And we do. That's the ingenious bit. It's just that the rich and powerful pervert our potentially rational choices with marketing and through better access to mass communication than the little gal has.
In addition to voting with the wallet, people should, in my opinion, feel free to keep bitching on/. about the bad things the powerful countries and corporations do. Even if they can't be bothered to wean themselves completely from the convenience of the big cheap teat that is made in china, backed by tyranny and systematized greed.
The key here is surreptitiousness. The researcher must act uninterested and as if they aren't trying to measure anything in particular and especially not with any fine accuracy. It helps if they whistle and distractedly reorganize bottles on a shelf while glancing fleetingly over at the experiment letting out a bored "Meh" as they do so.
I'm sorry, but aren't insults supposed to be just a little clever or witty in some way? Armature. -- Turning to a Linux advocate for thoughts on Microsoft is like asking Hitler how he felt about the Jews.
Don't beat yourself up about it, RMS Eats Toejam. In time you too can be able to emulate wittiness after hanging out with all the geeks here.
Ps. Your sig, is a nice attempt at a witty insult, but it fails because it is so obvious that it would be a better analogy if you swapped the words Jews and Hitler with each other. (You see, Hitler was the powerful one who wanted to destroy the Jew minority and the Jews would rather have had freedom).
>Every program that is released as free steals much needed jobs from paid programmers which hurts the economy.
Yeah! Fucking computing infrastructure! And all those paved roads! They're an even bigger problem! Think of all the pulling-cars-out-of-pits-and-over-tree-trunks-jobs millions of people could have all over the country if it weren't for all those commie roads!
This isn't much different than families of murder victims suing gun manufactors. People want to place the blame somewhere and in this case they think they stand a better chance suing Cisco instead of their own government. It would be safe to assume that if they sued the Chinese government instead, there would be no trial just jail and death sentences for those doing the suing.
But did the gun manufacturers knowingly sell the guns directly to known murderers that were widely presumed to almost certainly be murdering again?
Isn't doing business with ruthless oppressive regimes supposed to be bad?
The other week there was some news here in Sweden about Volvo getting to sell a lot of nice black cars to the Chinese government. Some Chinese boss of some magnitude at Volvo was posing with a Chinese official in front of a row of new Volvos on Tienanmen square and some Swedish boss in the corporation was interviewed, saying how good it was for Volvo in China to be seen driven by party brass.
Shouldn't he instead have been trying to cover his face, whimpering "Don't look at me! Don't look at me...?"
Yes, behaviorism is at the core and sometimes there is not much else, but it's also kind of solved and boring from a waxing-philosophical-about-the-games point of view.
More interesting, IMO, is precisely whatever more complex theories could be applied, even if they just add nuance above the fundamental skinner box.
In Australia, there seems to be two competing opposite ways of naming things. Either you go for totally nonsensical names, like wombat and the like, or you pick a very boring descriptive name.
See a brown snake in a tree? Name it "Brown tree snake". A green frog in a stream? - "Green stream frog". Spy agency in Australia? - "Australian Spy Agency".
It was fun imagining Steve Irwin making the names of animals up as he went along. May he rest in peace.
>Likewise, if Linux ever became a big contender on the desktop, you would see a surge in Linux rootkits.
Yes. But I think it would be easier to get Linux users to just stay with the repositories of open source code, than to download all kinds of crap from everywhere. Not all users, but a lot of them. That should disarm the threat somewhat.
I, for one, am grateful they explained the acronym, because until I read the next words, I thought NASA had a fuck-the-police server, which didn't make much sense, but that's what the kids writing/spraying FTP around here mean. Unless, of course, this is a neighbourhood of poor geeks...
Oh. We are changing. They manner in which humans breed has changed dramatically in the last 50 years. Now it is the poor and the stupid that have more children that survive to mate. The smart and successful are having fewer children. The human race is in a race to the bottom. As long as we continue on our current social justice path this is the inevitable result.
Bullshit. Basically everyone has always gotten to fuck. And still does. The gene pool is doing fine. And even if the rich and successful don't have babies, that's no problem either. Do you know how many poor people there are? A lot. And the billions of poor people on the planet aren't poor because of their genes, you know.
How about everyone getting to choose their own way of tagging and displaying every comment and user with an optional added numeric modifier for every tag?
Some days I might want to see (or hide) for example what the most popular "+3 Constipated"(and up) comments from anyone modded at least "+2 United-Fruit-apologist" by self described "Anarcho-Marshmellowians". At other times I might choose something less ridiculous, involving tags like "Conservative", "Insightful" and the like.
One could also choose to view comments in the style of reddit or slashdot (except maybe everyone would always have points, so the slashdot style would be filtered by mostly most popular moderators calculated in some way.)
Many, if not most humans seem to be authoritarians, who are comforted by the idea of some all powerful authority overseeing things, be it God, the Government, Karma, or the Company. When it looks as though they are not actually authoritarians, it is usually just because they don't like that particular authority. Show them one they like and they will fall all over themselves kissing its ass.
It sure can seem that way, but from another perspective, you could see it as authorities taking advantage of the human trait of wanting to belong together, a very social and beautiful trait.
The desire to flock and get along is perverted by ideas of otherness of varying kinds as a threat to the group. A common enemy will unite. Leaders can fuel these sentiments.
Fuck. I thought I could be cheery, but I don't know... At least, even if most people are authoritarians at heart, there are still plenty of people that just want to give you peace and love.
Isn't that his point, though? GPL is not about freedom (as is often claimed); it's about sharing.
Yes, the GPL is more restrictive than BSD. BSD gives you more freedom out of the box. Yet, the gpl should lead to more lines of code being out in the open, freely available for everyone, in the long run. I believe that is the plan and why it is claimed that it is about freedom.
one string attached... you must support my agenda, mwahahahah! (evil Bowser laugh)"
Yes there is an agenda. That agenda is Freedom(tm). Not the kind of capitalistic freedom of "you get to buy up as much of the world as you can afford and then fuck it up in order to enrich you even more, or the BSD kind of freedom (which does indeed give you quantitatively more freedom out of the box), where you have the freedom to make the source code un-free, but freedom as in "this code should be free now and distributed code that builds upon it should be free in the future as well.
I have trouble thinking of a less evil evil agenda than that of Free software (however annoying and dogmatic zealots it often comes bundled with).
>The stupidest thing I have heard a CEO say in a long time. Welcome trolls, we'll pay you to shut the fuck up.
It does seem that way. For the sake of wondering about it, let's pretend he knew what he was saying and said it on purpose. Could there come any benefit from telling the truth like this?
Slashdot Mirror
Use LFS, that will teach you!
On a serious note, the Linux distribution choosers/selectors out there can answer your and similar questions.
Actually, I find the answers here in the comments to this askslashdot question more informative than what the linux distro chooser that was the first search result yielded from that lesson on googling gave. (In fact, for me, that distro chooser should have given the answer debian unstable and debian testing, but it didn't ask quite all the right questions (and/or it's logic didn't fit my philosophy.))
I'd advise the op to maybe try your funny link out for fun, but to rather read the comments here for more thorough information.
I think choosing one that's very similar is a great idea, small changes are a lot easier than big ones after all. Maybe if she's able to figure out she can do everything in Linux that she can in the other OSes she'll stick with it.
But, maybe, if she's subjected to a more different perspective, she might gain some even deeper insight about concepts of computer usage...
As opposed to a LiveCD I would recommend installing it on a flash drive instead. The flash drive can be written to, so it can behave more like a real OS (allow you to persist files and settings after a reboot) and its just quicker than CD/DVD.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
Yup. And this should do the trick: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ runs on windows and Mac.
So, what exactly have you done to not support Chinese? Do you buy products that have been only made and manufactured in the US, even if its higher price? Do you own iPhone or any other known mobile phone? Does any of your product read Made in China? Instead of blaming Microsoft for doing business with Chinese, what about you taking the first step?
Yes, it is good to recognize that oneself plays a part as a cog in the machinery. As a wise man once said:
"Hoo! Hoo! Hoo! .)
Aaow!
(Yeah-Make That Change)
Gonna Make That Change . . .
Come On!
(Man In The Mirror)
You Know It!
You Know It!
You Know It!
You Know . . .
(Change . .
Make That Change. "
But, it is also unfortunately the case that us little consumers don't really run the world. You and I, individually, might be on top of things, at least a bit, using our purchasing power for good, but on the whole, the notion that consumers rule is false. Even if they technically might, we actually don't, because we buy what they tell us to buy (not you and me individually, but all of us in aggregate).
The consumerist, vote-with-your-wallet-perspective is often useful, but one should not neglect to also look at it from the perspective that maybe the rich and powerful actually are running the show. (Besides, they have very large wallets and some of them have very many guns, even).
It is convenient for the superpowers and mega-corps if we think consumers have the power. And we do. That's the ingenious bit. It's just that the rich and powerful pervert our potentially rational choices with marketing and through better access to mass communication than the little gal has.
In addition to voting with the wallet, people should, in my opinion, feel free to keep bitching on /. about the bad things the powerful countries and corporations do. Even if they can't be bothered to wean themselves completely from the convenience of the big cheap teat that is made in china, backed by tyranny and systematized greed.
Check this out, you can do it yourself:
"Full screen-split screen with any game."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVJcVPvjUJo
They're using cheap glasses from going to movies with one person having two left lenses and the other two right lenses.
The key here is surreptitiousness. The researcher must act uninterested and as if they aren't trying to measure anything in particular and especially not with any fine accuracy. It helps if they whistle and distractedly reorganize bottles on a shelf while glancing fleetingly over at the experiment letting out a bored "Meh" as they do so.
Don't beat yourself up about it, RMS Eats Toejam. In time you too can be able to emulate wittiness after hanging out with all the geeks here.
Ps. Your sig, is a nice attempt at a witty insult, but it fails because it is so obvious that it would be a better analogy if you swapped the words Jews and Hitler with each other. (You see, Hitler was the powerful one who wanted to destroy the Jew minority and the Jews would rather have had freedom).
Anyway, keep up the good work. You can do it!
>At least numbers are infinite. What is Ubuntu going use for the name of the version after "Zealous Zebra"?
They're gonna continue from A onwards, using different animals than on the previous run.
>Every program that is released as free steals much needed jobs from paid programmers which hurts the economy.
Yeah! Fucking computing infrastructure! And all those paved roads! They're an even bigger problem! Think of all the pulling-cars-out-of-pits-and-over-tree-trunks-jobs millions of people could have all over the country if it weren't for all those commie roads!
But did the gun manufacturers knowingly sell the guns directly to known murderers that were widely presumed to almost certainly be murdering again?
Isn't doing business with ruthless oppressive regimes supposed to be bad?
The other week there was some news here in Sweden about Volvo getting to sell a lot of nice black cars to the Chinese government. Some Chinese boss of some magnitude at Volvo was posing with a Chinese official in front of a row of new Volvos on Tienanmen square and some Swedish boss in the corporation was interviewed, saying how good it was for Volvo in China to be seen driven by party brass.
Shouldn't he instead have been trying to cover his face, whimpering "Don't look at me! Don't look at me...?"
Yes, behaviorism is at the core and sometimes there is not much else, but it's also kind of solved and boring from a waxing-philosophical-about-the-games point of view.
More interesting, IMO, is precisely whatever more complex theories could be applied, even if they just add nuance above the fundamental skinner box.
In Australia, there seems to be two competing opposite ways of naming things. Either you go for totally nonsensical names, like wombat and the like, or you pick a very boring descriptive name.
See a brown snake in a tree? Name it "Brown tree snake". A green frog in a stream? - "Green stream frog". Spy agency in Australia? - "Australian Spy Agency".
It was fun imagining Steve Irwin making the names of animals up as he went along. May he rest in peace.
>Likewise, if Linux ever became a big contender on the desktop, you would see a surge in Linux rootkits.
Yes. But I think it would be easier to get Linux users to just stay with the repositories of open source code, than to download all kinds of crap from everywhere. Not all users, but a lot of them.
That should disarm the threat somewhat.
I, for one, am grateful they explained the acronym, because until I read the next words, I thought NASA had a fuck-the-police server, which didn't make much sense, but that's what the kids writing/spraying FTP around here mean. Unless, of course, this is a neighbourhood of poor geeks...
That's right. Extreme fundamentalist freedom- and democracy-mongers!
They should take a little bit of fascism with their democracy, for a healthy balance... ;)
Bullshit. Basically everyone has always gotten to fuck. And still does. The gene pool is doing fine. And even if the rich and successful don't have babies, that's no problem either. Do you know how many poor people there are? A lot. And the billions of poor people on the planet aren't poor because of their genes, you know.
More than Internet revolutions, all these revolutions are Al Jazeera revolutions.
Just good old fashioned journalism now available (much more so than internet connectivity) in the region.
Or so I've heard.
I spotted someone who spotted someone who spotted a joke!
Good for me.
Woosh yourself. Ever heard of ADD and/or Aspergers?
How about everyone getting to choose their own way of tagging and displaying every comment and user with an optional added numeric modifier for every tag?
Some days I might want to see (or hide) for example what the most popular "+3 Constipated"(and up) comments from anyone modded at least "+2 United-Fruit-apologist" by self described "Anarcho-Marshmellowians". At other times I might choose something less ridiculous, involving tags like "Conservative", "Insightful" and the like.
One could also choose to view comments in the style of reddit or slashdot (except maybe everyone would always have points, so the slashdot style would be filtered by mostly most popular moderators calculated in some way.)
What was said was "Many, if not most humans seem to be authoritarians", which still leaves some to most outside of the group labeled authoritarians.
It sure can seem that way, but from another perspective, you could see it as authorities taking advantage of the human trait of wanting to belong together, a very social and beautiful trait.
The desire to flock and get along is perverted by ideas of otherness of varying kinds as a threat to the group. A common enemy will unite. Leaders can fuel these sentiments.
Fuck. I thought I could be cheery, but I don't know... At least, even if most people are authoritarians at heart, there are still plenty of people that just want to give you peace and love.
Yes, the GPL is more restrictive than BSD. BSD gives you more freedom out of the box. Yet, the gpl should lead to more lines of code being out in the open, freely available for everyone, in the long run. I believe that is the plan and why it is claimed that it is about freedom.
Yes there is an agenda. That agenda is Freedom(tm). Not the kind of capitalistic freedom of "you get to buy up as much of the world as you can afford and then fuck it up in order to enrich you even more, or the BSD kind of freedom (which does indeed give you quantitatively more freedom out of the box), where you have the freedom to make the source code un-free, but freedom as in "this code should be free now and distributed code that builds upon it should be free in the future as well.
I have trouble thinking of a less evil evil agenda than that of Free software (however annoying and dogmatic zealots it often comes bundled with).
>The stupidest thing I have heard a CEO say in a long time. Welcome trolls, we'll pay you to shut the fuck up.
It does seem that way. For the sake of wondering about it, let's pretend he knew what he was saying and said it on purpose. Could there come any benefit from telling the truth like this?