>It is more free but it does not preserve the freedoms? Who's freedoms? Stop it with the doublespeak/orwellian newspeak.
With bsd you can make the code proprietary and if you are mighty enough, maybe your closed version of things will be the thing everyone will be using in the end. With gpl you can't.
Which licence, would you say, intuitively, would lead to a world with more lines of code freely in the open in the end?
Some people seem to believe that not allowing software to be made un-free will preserve the freedom of it better. It's not as straightforward as the more freedoms of bsd up front, but I wouldn't say it's double- or newspeak.
Nope. I've often seen a distinction made between Android and Linux. Turns out, all these years when people talked about Linux they often meant GNU/Linux. Technically, Android runs on Linux, of course, but the meaning of the word Linux is GNU/X/[whatever]/Linux and Android isn't it. Hence, for example:
-Do you run linux on your [device]? -Nope, Android.
See this is why I don't understand everyone bitching about the American economy being broken. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't... but one thing is for sure. We are using paid employee's to try and compete with a country that essentially uses prisoners to power there economy. Whos confused about why we are losing??
Who's losing? Apple? Us consumers who get lower prices thanks to exploitation of the workers?
This is global capitalism. It sure screws many of us middle class westerners a bit too, but the capitalists have migrated the working class to china and are screwing them real good.
Are you really being 'atruistic' if you're helping others solely because it increases the chances of your own characteristics being passed on to future generations?
So, selflessness is really selfish? Ok. Let's assume that. I guess the discussion should then move on. What do we think of that?
Is there any difference in being "altruistically selfish" compared to being selfishly selfish? Is helping the fellow human out and feeling good about it no better than feeling good about ripping off the same?
I'd say altruism, whether selfish or not, is better than greed.
I'm thinking of moving to debian (kubuntu is an other consideration). But I want newer packages than stable typically has, so I would go for debian testing. I wouldn't recommend that for a newbie, though.
Maybe linux mint could be the new newbie friendly distro with fresher packages?
...apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order...
I didn't even hint at wanting to kill the project. In fact I said "different interfaces should be explored, of course". By that I, of course, meant that different interfaces should be explored.
I, for one, would not be using the kinect as a tv remote in my day to day life, however. I also said just that,
Not to be a party-pooper, because different interfaces should be explored, of course, but for day to day usage I could, on principle, not justify using a TV remote that draws 12 watts.
I felt I was expanding a bit on the thoughts and info expressed.
The initial "Yup" of my post was to indicate agreement with the parent. I then proceeded to draw two specific examples (Wesnoth and Nethack) of games I suspect might be better suited for some people, considering that (I presume that) enjoyment will help learning.
Then I alluded to the point that the underlying desired learning goals pertaining to logic and whatnot should be the focus (which they no doubt are claimed to be, but I could believe that the prestige of chess could have something to do with it as well) and not Chess for Chess sake.
So, I don't think that was exactly just the same as the parent post. Or maybe I didn't get my view across. Or maybe specific proposals of Wesnoth and Nethack and the rest of it obviously follows.
At any rate, I hereby pledge not to patent my ideas in the preceding comment, on grounds of previous art and/or obviousness.
Yup. I'd be interested to know if maybe some Battle for Wesnoth or Nethack might produce some results too, especially considering some pupils might find playing those more enjoyable.
(And there would of course be plenty of other examples aswell.)
If I was the supreme principal of the land, I'd draw up goals regarding logic and whatnot that the chess-playing is desired to accomplish and have teachers and kids find the most suitable game for each. I don't think chess can be the best fit for everyone.
I will purposefully refrain from reading the article you linked to, so that I can put forth the image of vomit and sudden outbursts of diarrhea being nastier in zero gravity.
The Wii already supports 480p. This is twice as good as NTSC's standard 480i. It, therefore, is high-definition. (In fact, it is higher-definition than most of the over-the-air ATSC signals that I can receive with my HDTV, which are largely 4x3 480i)
I'm a bit intrigued by what you might be talking about specifically, but not very much.
I wouldn't go mainly to bill hicks for facts. I'd probably rather start off at wikipedia, As per your warnings, I shall not base my model of who runs the world on Vonnegut. Instead, would it be ok if I'd try to follow the money? Money is power, right?
You didn't deride Chomsky. Should I take it that Chomsky is ok? So...
For funny angry words, I'll go to Bill Hicks, for funny kind words, I'll read Vonnegut and for truth I'll consult Chomsky. Deal?
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>It is more free but it does not preserve the freedoms? Who's freedoms? Stop it with the doublespeak/orwellian newspeak.
With bsd you can make the code proprietary and if you are mighty enough, maybe your closed version of things will be the thing everyone will be using in the end. With gpl you can't.
Which licence, would you say, intuitively, would lead to a world with more lines of code freely in the open in the end?
Some people seem to believe that not allowing software to be made un-free will preserve the freedom of it better. It's not as straightforward as the more freedoms of bsd up front, but I wouldn't say it's double- or newspeak.
Nope. I've often seen a distinction made between Android and Linux. Turns out, all these years when people talked about Linux they often meant GNU/Linux. Technically, Android runs on Linux, of course, but the meaning of the word Linux is GNU/X/[whatever]/Linux and Android isn't it. Hence, for example:
-Do you run linux on your [device]?
-Nope, Android.
Yes. The description "bunch of masturbating monkeys" was meant in the nicest possible way. :)
Is there something wrong with
sudo apt-g[TAB] i[TAB] pwgen
pwgen
?
Who's losing? Apple? Us consumers who get lower prices thanks to exploitation of the workers?
This is global capitalism. It sure screws many of us middle class westerners a bit too, but the capitalists have migrated the working class to china and are screwing them real good.
So, selflessness is really selfish? Ok. Let's assume that. I guess the discussion should then move on. What do we think of that?
Is there any difference in being "altruistically selfish" compared to being selfishly selfish? Is helping the fellow human out and feeling good about it no better than feeling good about ripping off the same?
I'd say altruism, whether selfish or not, is better than greed.
A small minority of people can still be tons of people. For search, it seems duckduckgo.com have that model.
I'm thinking of moving to debian (kubuntu is an other consideration). But I want newer packages than stable typically has, so I would go for debian testing. I wouldn't recommend that for a newbie, though.
Maybe linux mint could be the new newbie friendly distro with fresher packages?
Brought freedom?
>I get the M$ hate, but just check it - it's great thing. So much better than Android.
And Mussolini made the trains run on time.
One should always pack a hammer in case one happens on a hotell room that hasn't got a microwave for nuking towels.
>Sure you can possibly get more if you are reasonably diligent about watching and returning them quickly.
Rip or burn isos to hdd and watch the movies when you have time. Timeshifting is legal, isn't it? ;)
I didn't even hint at wanting to kill the project. In fact I said "different interfaces should be explored, of course". By that I, of course, meant that different interfaces should be explored.
I, for one, would not be using the kinect as a tv remote in my day to day life, however. I also said just that,
Not to be a party-pooper, because different interfaces should be explored, of course, but for day to day usage I could, on principle, not justify using a TV remote that draws 12 watts.
Good idea! Thanks.
I mistakenly thought you replied to my post. Please disregard. Professional help has been sought.
LOL. I'm an idiot. I can't follow the structure of parent and child posts here. Please disregard the misplaced passive-aggressiveness. I'm sorry.
For some people Chess could simply be too hard, so maybe another game would be better suited. Not necessarily Wesnoth or Nethack, though.
I felt I was expanding a bit on the thoughts and info expressed.
The initial "Yup" of my post was to indicate agreement with the parent. I then proceeded to draw two specific examples (Wesnoth and Nethack) of games I suspect might be better suited for some people, considering that (I presume that) enjoyment will help learning.
Then I alluded to the point that the underlying desired learning goals pertaining to logic and whatnot should be the focus (which they no doubt are claimed to be, but I could believe that the prestige of chess could have something to do with it as well) and not Chess for Chess sake.
So, I don't think that was exactly just the same as the parent post. Or maybe I didn't get my view across. Or maybe specific proposals of Wesnoth and Nethack and the rest of it obviously follows.
At any rate, I hereby pledge not to patent my ideas in the preceding comment, on grounds of previous art and/or obviousness.
>find the most suitable game for each kid.
FTFM
Yup. I'd be interested to know if maybe some Battle for Wesnoth or Nethack might produce some results too, especially considering some pupils might find playing those more enjoyable.
(And there would of course be plenty of other examples aswell.)
If I was the supreme principal of the land, I'd draw up goals regarding logic and whatnot that the chess-playing is desired to accomplish and have teachers and kids find the most suitable game for each. I don't think chess can be the best fit for everyone.
I will purposefully refrain from reading the article you linked to, so that I can put forth the image of vomit and sudden outbursts of diarrhea being nastier in zero gravity.
>Americans have never attacked a country solely because it had oil.
I think I heard somewhere that the country also needs to be weak. The USA doesn't attack anyone who can put up a decent fight.
It depends on your definition.
I'm a bit intrigued by what you might be talking about specifically, but not very much.
I wouldn't go mainly to bill hicks for facts. I'd probably rather start off at wikipedia, As per your warnings, I shall not base my model of who runs the world on Vonnegut. Instead, would it be ok if I'd try to follow the money? Money is power, right?
You didn't deride Chomsky. Should I take it that Chomsky is ok? So...
For funny angry words, I'll go to Bill Hicks, for funny kind words, I'll read Vonnegut and for truth I'll consult Chomsky. Deal?
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