That's interesting and all.. but the sub-topic was "systems wouldn't ever keep working."
But to continue with your deviation from that sub-topic, copying data can be fraught with risks also. Let's say you steal email addresses. Well, some organizations seed their email lists with spam trap or test accounts. Send something to one of those and they gotcha.
So, let's say you grab the data and do a reputation attack. You contact all customers with a libel campaign. They gotcha by your sending host.
Stealing the source code and using it in a competing business can be risky too. I worked for a company that was the victim of this. The thief was busted within a few months of going live and they were successfully sued. It's kinda hard to take the data & code and start a competing business while managing to stay off their radar. Most companies are quite aware of their competitors. If they can't prove data & code theft, then they'll get you on the non-compete.
If it's credit card data, well.. abusing those doesn't really sabotage the business... it sabotages the paying customers and the credit companies (innocent bystanders). There's less motive to hurt the customers if you've got an axe to grind with your ex-employer.
I think the reasons systems continue to work after a lay off (or firing) is that the last person laid off (or fired) would be the first suspect for criminal sabotage. IT people are usually of higher than average IQ... and it doesn't take a trained monkey to figure out you'd be the first to receive a knock at the door by a detective should entire databases or source code trees mysteriously disappear.
The problem for Bible followers is that time of year discrepancies would be averaged out by durations longer than a few years. The older the sample the less effect there will be due to diminishing average deviations between sun and earth.
I'm not getting your point. IE is blocking tracking images right? You can track using external html, js, or css files also. Same deal. Easily circumvented. You're not limited to 1x1 images for tracking.
100% on-topic. Data breach => identify theft => credit and lending fraud. Fix it at the tail end by making the data useless to fraudsters. Think it through next time, mod. Just think it through.
Stop giving out credit to every person who walks up to a cash register. Stop warehousing critical information that can be used to apply for credit. Stop approving credit based on only Name/SSN/Address. Stop this culture of unlimited, unchecked credit to anyone, any time, any place.
The problem is the lending system, not the fact your data is leaked. In web terms, credit applications need to be double opt-in, not single opt-in.
when you start a startup, i don't think you would want to hire the people who can't keep their jobs
Doesn't matter. So the startups hire the better lot of developers. They'll have to leave their jobs to take the offer leaving new openings with the other companies. The lesser ones will fill the voids left by good developers jumping ship.
You're missing something. If 100 developers lose their job, and 2 or 3 are encouraged to become successful by starting new businesses, then those companies will be hiring a significant portion of the remaining unemployed developers. They will also become corporate leaders with first hand knowledge of how it feels to lose your job due to out-sourcing.
Not every developer is capable of accomplishing this, but all you need is a few successful ones. The advice, although not pertinent to everyone, is still good advice.
The web in 2008 is multimedia: text, images, video, audio, and applications.
Frankly, I'm rather sick of the rampant bitching about Flash. Complaining is for the weak whereas doing is for the strong. If you don't like it, then provide alternatives that offer the same or better capabilities. If you don't have the technical ability, then promote and support developers who do. Just quit bitching about Flash and do something. Scratch that itch.
I'd mod parent down, but I'd rather explain why I disagree
So you admit you're a mod troll?
http://slashdot.org/faq/com-mod.shtml
Simply disagreeing with a comment is not a valid reason to mark it down. Likewise, agreeing with a comment is not a valid reason to mark it up.
They do it all the time though. How? Maybe not for trespassing so you may be right about that, but for assault probably. Guard asks patron to leave. Patron ignores guard. Guard begins pushing patron. Patron resists and defends himself. Bingo! Assault.
Errp.. I actually left out my main point which was going to be.... possessing the gun was really just a figure of speech. The fact they have the numbers means they can easily overpower you, just as they can with a gun. Either way, you're in the powerless position.
Seldom do mall or store security guards carry guns.
They can and do around here. The only reason they don't is when there's policy set by the building owner. Most city governments freely give guards and officers permits for carrying unconcealed or concealed weapons. The only thing preventing them from carrying them around the mall during a shift is corporate policy. Corporate may fear risking the publicity caused by an aggressive guard who's chomping at the bit to unload their clip on every kid stealing a 49 cent candy bar.
They see the huge camera and think "I hope he's not taking pictures of MY kid!"
You have a point. There's no logical difference between a big camera and a small commodity camera. They complain about you but not about other parents with crappy little automatic cameras. That's illogical. However, if the camera has a high quality zoom lense, people do wonder if you're using it to shoot crotch shots or to peek down shirts from 50 feet away. It's only natural to wonder when your kids are playing on the soccer field and there you are with a high-powered lense capable of reading the text of a newspaper left on the moon.
The only issue I have with photographers photographing me or my family is that I don't know where that photo ends up. If it ends up in someone's personal album, fine. I don't care. If it ends up on their little personal website, I'm not worried about the 100 visitors a year who may see it. But what if it's used for a magazine cover? Or a billboard? Or posted on a high volume website where 10's of millions of users will see it? There I am, possibly caught in a bad angle, poor lighting, messy hair, ice-cream stained shirt, sweating profusely because it's mid-summer and 105F and a high resolution picture of it is plastered up there for everyone to see and more importantly will see. Sure, if it's used in that way they're supposed to acquire modeling rights to the pic but how do I know if they won't just publish anyway? Maybe it'll be posted to non-profit page that suddenly becomes uber-popular: "mock the sweaty ice-cream eaters website". I'll probably never find out. Either way, the odds are pretty low, but still the mind wonders where the photo ends up and that causes unease.
Photographers will always make people feel uneasy. For the reason above, but also for the reason that everything you are doing is being recorded. Careful not to itch your nose... it'll look like you're picking it. Careful not to bend over, otherwise he'll shoot an embarrassing pic of your ass sticking out. Careful not to eat that chili dog, he'll snap a shot with sauce all over your lips and you'll look like an idiot. It's like standing in a room where someone stares from 6 inches away non-stop. It's unnerving isn't it? I think too many photographers aren't considerate about these feelings they cause and cop an attitude of "I'll take any damned pic I like and there's nothing you can do about it so screw off" attitude. People just don't want pictures out there used to mock them.
As far as I understand in USA, a mall is private property, so the owners can informally prohibit picture taking inside the mall but cannot if you're taking pictures from a public place adjacent to the mall. Had you refused the guard and ignored his request for you to leave, you'd be trespassing and he could detain you for trespass, but not photography. There is no law saying you cannot shoot photos inside a public building, but they can certainly ask you to leave if they don't like it. I don't believe he can confiscate your camera. That would be theft and threats of such is typical of badge bullies who twist the law hoping to invoke fear in you.
There are two types of law. The law on the books. And, whatever the guy with the gun says is the law. The security guy follows the latter so even though he may be violating your rights, it's best to comply and sue later.
Oh they are indeed weather balloons... weather balloons from Betelgeuse carrying a payload suspended from the balloons, which is piloted by grey aliens.
I'm called stupid and I defend myself, yet it is I who you decide to single out? Well fuck you. The tone of my response is always reactionary to whoever replies to my post. Don't blame me if someone gives me attitude and I shovel it back. If you (the royal you) don't like it, then don't start flinging shit at me first.
Only a very stupid ISP would enact policy 1. Otherwise anytime you had someone die, or just plain decide to stop using your crappy service you would suddenly start blocking legitimate emails.
Yahoo does this. Let your account go idle for several months. Your account will be gone. You are obviously quite ignorant on this matter.
Your point number 2 is interesting but very wrong in this case
What are your qualifications? Why is it wrong? Do you know I've written co-registration scripts? Do you even have a clue what a co-registration signup is? I don't think you do.
Or maybe.. you can't distinguish between an idea from an instance of an idea? Opt in mailing list from "This Is True" mailing list? Class versus object? Cookie cutter versus cookie? Any of that ringing a bell? Are you really that stupid?
Point 3 is also invalid. And fairly stupid
I'm not even going to bother responding to that one because you fail to distinguish between idea and instance again.
In short, grow up, stop claiming special "industry knowledge" that is almost assuredly shared by most everyone reading this site
What are your qualifications? I'm speaking from experience in the field of sending email and information gathering (adhering to CANSPAM laws). You have zero clue on what you're talking about. I'm beginning to suspect you're a troll playing games here. No one in IT could be that ignorant of what happened to the online advertising industry between 2000 and 2005. If you're not a troll, then you're a dumb ass. By the way, format your message right next time. It looked like a child put it together.
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That's interesting and all.. but the sub-topic was "systems wouldn't ever keep working."
But to continue with your deviation from that sub-topic, copying data can be fraught with risks also. Let's say you steal email addresses. Well, some organizations seed their email lists with spam trap or test accounts. Send something to one of those and they gotcha.
So, let's say you grab the data and do a reputation attack. You contact all customers with a libel campaign. They gotcha by your sending host.
Stealing the source code and using it in a competing business can be risky too. I worked for a company that was the victim of this. The thief was busted within a few months of going live and they were successfully sued. It's kinda hard to take the data & code and start a competing business while managing to stay off their radar. Most companies are quite aware of their competitors. If they can't prove data & code theft, then they'll get you on the non-compete.
If it's credit card data, well.. abusing those doesn't really sabotage the business... it sabotages the paying customers and the credit companies (innocent bystanders). There's less motive to hurt the customers if you've got an axe to grind with your ex-employer.
I'm convinced all religions are the result of chieftain ancestors who suffered from OCD.
OCD => useless rituals performed to prevent bad things from happening.
Religion => useless rituals performed prevent bad things from happening.
Now.. for the on-topic portion. This has to be a good thing. Access to Earth maps and astronomy images have yielded new discoveries by amateurs. http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/08/07/space.discovery/index.html?eref=ib_topstories The same should happen here.
I think the reasons systems continue to work after a lay off (or firing) is that the last person laid off (or fired) would be the first suspect for criminal sabotage. IT people are usually of higher than average IQ... and it doesn't take a trained monkey to figure out you'd be the first to receive a knock at the door by a detective should entire databases or source code trees mysteriously disappear.
The problem for Bible followers is that time of year discrepancies would be averaged out by durations longer than a few years. The older the sample the less effect there will be due to diminishing average deviations between sun and earth.
Maybe he lives in California.
You think most Americans can? We can't either.
I'm not getting your point. IE is blocking tracking images right? You can track using external html, js, or css files also. Same deal. Easily circumvented. You're not limited to 1x1 images for tracking.
100% on-topic. Data breach => identify theft => credit and lending fraud. Fix it at the tail end by making the data useless to fraudsters. Think it through next time, mod. Just think it through.
Stop giving out credit to every person who walks up to a cash register. Stop warehousing critical information that can be used to apply for credit. Stop approving credit based on only Name/SSN/Address. Stop this culture of unlimited, unchecked credit to anyone, any time, any place.
The problem is the lending system, not the fact your data is leaked. In web terms, credit applications need to be double opt-in, not single opt-in.
Doesn't matter. So the startups hire the better lot of developers. They'll have to leave their jobs to take the offer leaving new openings with the other companies. The lesser ones will fill the voids left by good developers jumping ship.
You're missing something. If 100 developers lose their job, and 2 or 3 are encouraged to become successful by starting new businesses, then those companies will be hiring a significant portion of the remaining unemployed developers. They will also become corporate leaders with first hand knowledge of how it feels to lose your job due to out-sourcing.
Not every developer is capable of accomplishing this, but all you need is a few successful ones. The advice, although not pertinent to everyone, is still good advice.
To prohibit is to forbid. I can forbid you to ever post again. It is not law, but I can still do it. Then I clearly said
You are a dummy and your reading comprehension is below that of a monkey. I am done with you. Goodbye.
The web in 2008 is multimedia: text, images, video, audio, and applications.
Frankly, I'm rather sick of the rampant bitching about Flash. Complaining is for the weak whereas doing is for the strong. If you don't like it, then provide alternatives that offer the same or better capabilities. If you don't have the technical ability, then promote and support developers who do. Just quit bitching about Flash and do something. Scratch that itch.
Yea right... go ahead, try to pass that one off in a crowd of Pinko Commies or Right-Wing Nutjobs. You'll be burning at the stake by dinnertime.
So you admit you're a mod troll?
Which is another way of saying exactly what I said. I don't see how your comment adds new information to the thread.
They do it all the time though. How? Maybe not for trespassing so you may be right about that, but for assault probably. Guard asks patron to leave. Patron ignores guard. Guard begins pushing patron. Patron resists and defends himself. Bingo! Assault.
Errp.. I actually left out my main point which was going to be.... possessing the gun was really just a figure of speech. The fact they have the numbers means they can easily overpower you, just as they can with a gun. Either way, you're in the powerless position.
They can and do around here. The only reason they don't is when there's policy set by the building owner. Most city governments freely give guards and officers permits for carrying unconcealed or concealed weapons. The only thing preventing them from carrying them around the mall during a shift is corporate policy. Corporate may fear risking the publicity caused by an aggressive guard who's chomping at the bit to unload their clip on every kid stealing a 49 cent candy bar.
You have a point. There's no logical difference between a big camera and a small commodity camera. They complain about you but not about other parents with crappy little automatic cameras. That's illogical. However, if the camera has a high quality zoom lense, people do wonder if you're using it to shoot crotch shots or to peek down shirts from 50 feet away. It's only natural to wonder when your kids are playing on the soccer field and there you are with a high-powered lense capable of reading the text of a newspaper left on the moon.
The only issue I have with photographers photographing me or my family is that I don't know where that photo ends up. If it ends up in someone's personal album, fine. I don't care. If it ends up on their little personal website, I'm not worried about the 100 visitors a year who may see it. But what if it's used for a magazine cover? Or a billboard? Or posted on a high volume website where 10's of millions of users will see it? There I am, possibly caught in a bad angle, poor lighting, messy hair, ice-cream stained shirt, sweating profusely because it's mid-summer and 105F and a high resolution picture of it is plastered up there for everyone to see and more importantly will see. Sure, if it's used in that way they're supposed to acquire modeling rights to the pic but how do I know if they won't just publish anyway? Maybe it'll be posted to non-profit page that suddenly becomes uber-popular: "mock the sweaty ice-cream eaters website". I'll probably never find out. Either way, the odds are pretty low, but still the mind wonders where the photo ends up and that causes unease.
Photographers will always make people feel uneasy. For the reason above, but also for the reason that everything you are doing is being recorded. Careful not to itch your nose... it'll look like you're picking it. Careful not to bend over, otherwise he'll shoot an embarrassing pic of your ass sticking out. Careful not to eat that chili dog, he'll snap a shot with sauce all over your lips and you'll look like an idiot. It's like standing in a room where someone stares from 6 inches away non-stop. It's unnerving isn't it? I think too many photographers aren't considerate about these feelings they cause and cop an attitude of "I'll take any damned pic I like and there's nothing you can do about it so screw off" attitude. People just don't want pictures out there used to mock them.
As far as I understand in USA, a mall is private property, so the owners can informally prohibit picture taking inside the mall but cannot if you're taking pictures from a public place adjacent to the mall. Had you refused the guard and ignored his request for you to leave, you'd be trespassing and he could detain you for trespass, but not photography. There is no law saying you cannot shoot photos inside a public building, but they can certainly ask you to leave if they don't like it. I don't believe he can confiscate your camera. That would be theft and threats of such is typical of badge bullies who twist the law hoping to invoke fear in you.
There are two types of law. The law on the books. And, whatever the guy with the gun says is the law. The security guy follows the latter so even though he may be violating your rights, it's best to comply and sue later.
http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm
All your over-used-misquote are belong to us.
Errrm...
The places guys insert their shrinky dinks... crazy stuff.
Oh they are indeed weather balloons... weather balloons from Betelgeuse carrying a payload suspended from the balloons, which is piloted by grey aliens.
I'm called stupid and I defend myself, yet it is I who you decide to single out? Well fuck you. The tone of my response is always reactionary to whoever replies to my post. Don't blame me if someone gives me attitude and I shovel it back. If you (the royal you) don't like it, then don't start flinging shit at me first.
Yahoo does this. Let your account go idle for several months. Your account will be gone. You are obviously quite ignorant on this matter.
What are your qualifications? Why is it wrong? Do you know I've written co-registration scripts? Do you even have a clue what a co-registration signup is? I don't think you do.
Or maybe.. you can't distinguish between an idea from an instance of an idea? Opt in mailing list from "This Is True" mailing list? Class versus object? Cookie cutter versus cookie? Any of that ringing a bell? Are you really that stupid?
I'm not even going to bother responding to that one because you fail to distinguish between idea and instance again.
What are your qualifications? I'm speaking from experience in the field of sending email and information gathering (adhering to CANSPAM laws). You have zero clue on what you're talking about. I'm beginning to suspect you're a troll playing games here. No one in IT could be that ignorant of what happened to the online advertising industry between 2000 and 2005. If you're not a troll, then you're a dumb ass. By the way, format your message right next time. It looked like a child put it together.