It's very difficult for any single-issue party to be "serious"
By "serious" I meant a few things, and was deliberately vague so as not to get too much into the complexities of things. Basically, by "serious", I meant that they weren't a joke party like the Rhinoceros Party, and that they are big enough to have at least some influence (however subtle). It's hard to list the NDP (with a lot of political capital) with the Marijuana Party (which is very much on the fringes) and the Greens which are an emerging party that threatens the NDPs dominance in the centre-left. It's very hard to pigeonhole things.
This is so wrong I don't know where to start. First, I'm guessing you're pretty young if you think the Tories have been traditionally strong.
I'll be turning 41 this year; I don't know if you consider this to be "young". I'm not talking about traditions. Though my experiences and time frame reference the period of when Mulroney got into office (the Reagan years for you Americans).
Secondly, the Liberals are not, not have ever been right wing. Secondly, the Liberals are not, not have ever been right wing. They're a pragmatic centrist party.
WRONG! You obviously don't follow politics in Canada. The liberals are the ones who have always supported warrentless wiretaps, American DMCA type legislation, they supported the war on drugs (to be noted, the senate and some people in the legislature are more liberal about marijuana laws). "Traditionally" the Conservatives (and their original name, the Progressive Conservatives) have been more liberal than the Liberal party of Canada in their politics.
Though as an easterner I have no love for them, I would never say the party as a whole is neo-conservative.
They have supported the abolition of universal health care, an expanded War on Drugs, more rampant and fanatical censorship, etc and so on. They have always been Bush and Reagen supporters and have been followers of the American neocon leadership "scene". In my own province of Ontario the neocons raised taxes on the poor and lowered taxes on the rich, and increased the debt substantially while officially claiming that they were reducing it. The Minister of Welfare told poor people to haggle with grocery stores if they can't get enough to eat. The natianal Conservative party wanted our disgraced leader of this disgraced party to follow them into national politics. This is neoconservatism, not centrism.
Though as an easterner I have no love for them, I would never say the party as a whole is neo-conservative.
Your analysis portrays a fairly right wing bent. The NDP has always been left of center, but they have never (not recently, to my knowledge) supported price controls, the government take over of private businesses, etc. Saying the NDP is not near the centre is pretty extremist.
From Political Compass
The Conservative Party's move further towards the Bush-Reagan mix of free market economics with social conservatism makes the somewhat mercurial Liberals look more moderate, despite their own rightward drift.
- Ref., http://www.politicalcompass.org/canada2008 There is an overall historical movement to the neocon Right (as is taking place worldwide). The fascism of democracy is on a constant creep into reality.
To elaborate, we have at least 4 (serious) political contenders who are in (or near) the center of the political spectrum here in Canada: - The Marijuana Party - The New Democratic Party - The Green Party - The Pirate Party (the new kid on the block)
These parties compete primarily with the Liberal Party (Canada's unofficial right-wing party); and the Liberal party is the only party that can offer any serious opposition to the Conservative party (Canada's unofficial neoconservative party), who tends to remain strong unless there is consistent and persistent and extreme scandals and incompetency during their terms in office (sorta like how the Republicans remain quite strong in the US despite their scandals and in-competencies).
You said, "More importantly, are these videos on ThePirateBay?".
From the article:
They forfeited the domain name, Extremeassociates.com, as part of their plea agreement, in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania. The company is now defunct.
Hopely that means that the movies are now in the public domain. I'll be looking for them on the Internet Archive.
I was merely pointing out that it was not the nudity or sex acts themselves that was being prosecuted, but the violence and depravity that crossed the line (according to the courts).
So water-boarding is legal and fictional depictions of (deviant) sex are illegal. The world is upside down.
When I read the summary I thought that the American couple was arrested while on vacation or on a business trip in a country like Iran or North Korea. Americans (et al) are trying to do their best to be like the countries that they demonize the most.
I would have to disagree with you regarding Israel. Israel is only acting in self determination after numerous incursions by Hamas, a group funded by Iran.
Agreed. And Hamas is only acting in self determination after numerous incursions by Israel, which is funded by the US.
I guess the U.S. government is just going to have to fall back to using Altavista [altavista.com] for a search engine. Don't forget their motto: "Over one million pages indexed!"
No they won't. Google is an American country, so they can bid on American contracts. Only non-American companies are subject to protectionist legislation to protect the children of foreign countries.
China does not threaten to bomb israel or destabilize iraq.
None of the politicians mentioned that this economic protectionism was religious based or had anything to do with nuclear warfare. Though China is a very dangerous military threat to India and is a police threat to its own citizens.
And from the article:
Nokia Siemens said in a statement that the equipment it provided to Telecommunications Co. of Iran, the country's fixed and mobile network operator, is designed only to conduct lawful intercept of traffic by law enforcement organizations.
Unlike in America, where the government and the phone companies can monitor all traffic without legal requirements.
This hypocrisy is just people being bad and lying out loud about it.
I take it when you're visiting people's houses, you don't leave behind any flakes of your skin, or any molecules or crumbs of any part of you behind? Hypocrite.
I'll have you know that I molt once a year in the privacy of my bathroom. No hypocrisy here.
Seems like they're going to abandon the space craft as garbage, contributing yet again to intergalactic pollution. If you love this universe you should keep it clean.
Did you even read the summary? In the summary you can clearly read that one of them spent time in prison.
Really? I obviously wasn't referring to that one person referred to in the summary, and I obviously am not embarrassed. I have been aware of Kevin Mitnick since the 1990s; there is no Google search necessary.
As people age, they often realize that many of their youthful decisions, which seemed so correct at the time, were not such great ideas afterall.
I haven't noticed this. I have noticed that people tend to rationalize their behavior. Unfortunately people (personality-wise) change very little with age. So an impulsive ten year old will likely grow into an impulsive forty year old. And depressive people will remain depressive and honest people will remain deviant.
People will make excuses for their behavior if they get caught, and they will make excuses for their hypocrisy either way. There isn't much altruism in people. People only find religion after they've been condemned to death. If they manage to break out of jail they tend to lose that religion.
I have a feeling that most religious bankers in the West don't practice what they preach. They don't even seem to believe what they preach. Soul?... it's worthless to them.
And at the time, I couldn't even afford my own computer."
Don't do what I've done, do what I say. Things were also tougher for me. When I was a child I had to walk 20 miles to school everyday in a snow storm, through swamps and trying to avoid crocodiles. Things were tough. You kids today have it easy.
Ummm....No. that is why they have Customer Service departments. HR is for internal use only....
HR are the people who mandate how employees do their Customer Service. They are the ones who fire employees who are incompetent and approve promotions for customer service representatives who show leadership. It's all internal. HR doesn't talk to the public.
Dont' be silly. According to your pseudo-definition of a city being least 1 million people...
Don't be silly, a real city isn't defined by its population count or legal status. A real city is defined by its crime rate. So if you don't feel unsafe walking the streets at night then you don't live in a real city.
Antarctica has no laws that I am aware of (aside from some UN treaties; though everybody knows how enforceable UN treaties are).
By "freer" I'm not sure what you mean, as the word "free" is quite ambiguous; free from what? Utopia is a place that literally means nowhere. As long as there are humans where you go then you will never be completely free, because humans gain status by controlling other people. Play the game, or get out of it completely. There is no need for money down there, no violence, rape, or thievery. It's a cool place to live. Don't forget to bring your snow shoes.
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It's very difficult for any single-issue party to be "serious"
By "serious" I meant a few things, and was deliberately vague so as not to get too much into the complexities of things. Basically, by "serious", I meant that they weren't a joke party like the Rhinoceros Party, and that they are big enough to have at least some influence (however subtle). It's hard to list the NDP (with a lot of political capital) with the Marijuana Party (which is very much on the fringes) and the Greens which are an emerging party that threatens the NDPs dominance in the centre-left. It's very hard to pigeonhole things.
Wrong. Give your head a shake and read the news.
This is so wrong I don't know where to start. First, I'm guessing you're pretty young if you think the Tories have been traditionally strong.
I'll be turning 41 this year; I don't know if you consider this to be "young". I'm not talking about traditions. Though my experiences and time frame reference the period of when Mulroney got into office (the Reagan years for you Americans).
Secondly, the Liberals are not, not have ever been right wing. Secondly, the Liberals are not, not have ever been right wing. They're a pragmatic centrist party.
WRONG! You obviously don't follow politics in Canada. The liberals are the ones who have always supported warrentless wiretaps, American DMCA type legislation, they supported the war on drugs (to be noted, the senate and some people in the legislature are more liberal about marijuana laws). "Traditionally" the Conservatives (and their original name, the Progressive Conservatives) have been more liberal than the Liberal party of Canada in their politics.
Though as an easterner I have no love for them, I would never say the party as a whole is neo-conservative.
They have supported the abolition of universal health care, an expanded War on Drugs, more rampant and fanatical censorship, etc and so on. They have always been Bush and Reagen supporters and have been followers of the American neocon leadership "scene". In my own province of Ontario the neocons raised taxes on the poor and lowered taxes on the rich, and increased the debt substantially while officially claiming that they were reducing it. The Minister of Welfare told poor people to haggle with grocery stores if they can't get enough to eat. The natianal Conservative party wanted our disgraced leader of this disgraced party to follow them into national politics. This is neoconservatism, not centrism.
Though as an easterner I have no love for them, I would never say the party as a whole is neo-conservative.
Your analysis portrays a fairly right wing bent. The NDP has always been left of center, but they have never (not recently, to my knowledge) supported price controls, the government take over of private businesses, etc. Saying the NDP is not near the centre is pretty extremist.
From Political Compass
The Conservative Party's move further towards the Bush-Reagan mix of free market economics with social conservatism makes the somewhat mercurial Liberals look more moderate, despite their own rightward drift.
- Ref., http://www.politicalcompass.org/canada2008 There is an overall historical movement to the neocon Right (as is taking place worldwide). The fascism of democracy is on a constant creep into reality.
To elaborate, we have at least 4 (serious) political contenders who are in (or near) the center of the political spectrum here in Canada:
- The Marijuana Party
- The New Democratic Party
- The Green Party
- The Pirate Party (the new kid on the block)
These parties compete primarily with the Liberal Party (Canada's unofficial right-wing party); and the Liberal party is the only party that can offer any serious opposition to the Conservative party (Canada's unofficial neoconservative party), who tends to remain strong unless there is consistent and persistent and extreme scandals and incompetency during their terms in office (sorta like how the Republicans remain quite strong in the US despite their scandals and in-competencies).
The Pirate Party is coming to Canada.
It's likely to split the non-neoconservative vote even further into obscurity.
This seems extremely unlikely, and most probably pseudoscience.
It's no pseudo-science. Unfortunately they leave out some facts, like the fact that it only works for people who are born with antennae.
You said, "More importantly, are these videos on ThePirateBay?".
From the article:
They forfeited the domain name, Extremeassociates.com, as part of their plea agreement, in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania. The company is now defunct.
Hopely that means that the movies are now in the public domain. I'll be looking for them on the Internet Archive.
I was merely pointing out that it was not the nudity or sex acts themselves that was being prosecuted, but the violence and depravity that crossed the line (according to the courts).
So water-boarding is legal and fictional depictions of (deviant) sex are illegal. The world is upside down.
When I read the summary I thought that the American couple was arrested while on vacation or on a business trip in a country like Iran or North Korea. Americans (et al) are trying to do their best to be like the countries that they demonize the most.
I would have to disagree with you regarding Israel. Israel is only acting in self determination after numerous incursions by Hamas, a group funded by Iran.
Agreed. And Hamas is only acting in self determination after numerous incursions by Israel, which is funded by the US.
I guess the U.S. government is just going to have to fall back to using Altavista [altavista.com] for a search engine. Don't forget their motto: "Over one million pages indexed!"
No they won't. Google is an American country, so they can bid on American contracts. Only non-American companies are subject to protectionist legislation to protect the children of foreign countries.
China does not threaten to bomb israel or destabilize iraq.
None of the politicians mentioned that this economic protectionism was religious based or had anything to do with nuclear warfare. Though China is a very dangerous military threat to India and is a police threat to its own citizens.
And from the article:
Nokia Siemens said in a statement that the equipment it provided to Telecommunications Co. of Iran, the country's fixed and mobile network operator, is designed only to conduct lawful intercept of traffic by law enforcement organizations.
Unlike in America, where the government and the phone companies can monitor all traffic without legal requirements.
This hypocrisy is just people being bad and lying out loud about it.
I take it when you're visiting people's houses, you don't leave behind any flakes of your skin, or any molecules or crumbs of any part of you behind? Hypocrite.
I'll have you know that I molt once a year in the privacy of my bathroom. No hypocrisy here.
FYI, and to keep things straight, I was making an observation and not making an argument to prove a point, so their is no hypocrisy fallacy here.
In general I'm looking at the big picture and not at individual incidents. The forest, not the trees per se.
I assure you those words were quite deliberate. No cognitive dissonance here.
Somebody must have gotten rejected for a date. Again.
Obviously. Knowledge of mathematics or computer systems does not imply intelligence nor logic.
I can picture an image of God standing in front of the galaxy with a tear dripping down his eye.
Seems like they're going to abandon the space craft as garbage, contributing yet again to intergalactic pollution. If you love this universe you should keep it clean.
Did you even read the summary? In the summary you can clearly read that one of them spent time in prison.
Really? I obviously wasn't referring to that one person referred to in the summary, and I obviously am not embarrassed. I have been aware of Kevin Mitnick since the 1990s; there is no Google search necessary.
As people age, they often realize that many of their youthful decisions, which seemed so correct at the time, were not such great ideas afterall.
I haven't noticed this. I have noticed that people tend to rationalize their behavior. Unfortunately people (personality-wise) change very little with age. So an impulsive ten year old will likely grow into an impulsive forty year old. And depressive people will remain depressive and honest people will remain deviant.
People will make excuses for their behavior if they get caught, and they will make excuses for their hypocrisy either way. There isn't much altruism in people. People only find religion after they've been condemned to death. If they manage to break out of jail they tend to lose that religion.
I dunno, maybe they've learned a lesson and are trying to steer people away from needless hardship?
Perhaps, but unless they've been in jail then it's probably just the same old hypocrisy and moral superiority based on age.
I have a feeling that most religious bankers in the West don't practice what they preach. They don't even seem to believe what they preach. Soul? ... it's worthless to them.
And at the time, I couldn't even afford my own computer."
Don't do what I've done, do what I say. Things were also tougher for me. When I was a child I had to walk 20 miles to school everyday in a snow storm, through swamps and trying to avoid crocodiles. Things were tough. You kids today have it easy.
Ummm....No. that is why they have Customer Service departments. HR is for internal use only....
HR are the people who mandate how employees do their Customer Service. They are the ones who fire employees who are incompetent and approve promotions for customer service representatives who show leadership. It's all internal. HR doesn't talk to the public.
Dont' be silly. According to your pseudo-definition of a city being least 1 million people...
Don't be silly, a real city isn't defined by its population count or legal status. A real city is defined by its crime rate. So if you don't feel unsafe walking the streets at night then you don't live in a real city.
Antarctica has no laws that I am aware of (aside from some UN treaties; though everybody knows how enforceable UN treaties are).
By "freer" I'm not sure what you mean, as the word "free" is quite ambiguous; free from what? Utopia is a place that literally means nowhere. As long as there are humans where you go then you will never be completely free, because humans gain status by controlling other people. Play the game, or get out of it completely. There is no need for money down there, no violence, rape, or thievery. It's a cool place to live. Don't forget to bring your snow shoes.