The issue isnt one of worth. Christianity does not teach that women or homosexuals have less worth, value, or whatever other metric than anyone else.
It does however think that women have a different role than men, and that homosexual activity is sinful. Such a public sin-- particularly if unrepentant, and willful-- would immediately disqualify one for a leadership role in the church.
You're free to disagree, but this is an issue of people saying "I dont care what the bible has to say about my behavior, and I want to be an elder anyways". Well, unfortunately that places you out of the running.
I would have been surprised that you got +5 insightful, but then historical accuracy has never really been a strong point of slashdot.
First, there is a massive difference between disapproving of a sexual practice, and discrimination. Its not "discrimination" to say "I think adultery / promiscuity is wrong"; why does it become discrimination to say "I think homosexual intercourse is wrong"? Is this the age of equivocation or something?
Womens rights....you somehow act as if all throughout society women had all these wonderful rights and then christians came in and took them away. Meanwhile, back in reality, Christianity specifically marks out women and children as having some worth, in an age ( 1st / 2nd centuries AD) when they were seen as worthless and property of their husbands. In fact, throughout the Old and New testaments, it REPEATEDLY has women shown as having value-- in fact, the same value before God as men.
Regarding slavery, perhaps you should some more research on historical christian vs non-christian views and attitudes towards slaves and slavery-- ie, during OT times (Egypt, babylon vs hebrew), or NT times (christian vs roman), or during the abolition movement. Regarding the latter, I might start you off here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_slavery#Christian_abolitionism
Although many abolitionists opposed slavery on purely philosophical reasons, anti-slavery movements attracted strong religious elements. Throughout Europe and the United States, Christians, usually from 'un-institutional' Christian faith movements, not directly connected with traditional state churches, or "non-conformist" believers within established churches, were to be found at the forefront of the abolitionist movements
I also like how you defined "on the losing side of an issue" as "doesnt agree with me". Protip-- socially conservative doesnt mean "doesnt contribute to charity" or "doesnt volunteer"; but Im sure all those friends I know serving at homeless shelters, assisting families of incarcerated men, providing free ESOL, etc are all heartless, greedy corporatists, right?
You want to talk about bigotry, honestly Ive seen more of it on slashdot towards christians than anything else. Your closing sentence kind of sums that up pretty well.
An even more fun game is taking a stab at what Java version your computer has updated to at any one time. I thought I was on JRE 7u12, but I checked and we were up to u17 after a week.
You could probably make a pretty decent calendar out of JRE versions; year = 2006 + $MajorVersion, Week = $updateLevel.
Apparently something about the one makes the other absolutely impossible to fix. That, or Oracle simply doesnt care.
Either way, "a JRE plugin that wont ruin your network security" might be the most substantial feature ever, if they could hit it. Its all well and good to add new features to the language unless IT security everywhere are working on phasing out java (the client bits) because of its abysmal record...
In case its not clear enough: Steel is Iron + carbon. A thermal lance is a device which essentially BURNS iron for fuel, and is hot enough to cut through either of those materials separately and roughly 2-3 times hot enough to cut through the best steels out there.
The whole POINT of a thermal lance is to QUICKLY cut through strong steels and concrete by melting them into quick-flowing slag. I dont know how quickly it would go thru 6 feet of steel, but Ive seen a video of a thermal lance getting into a reinforced safe in about 10 seconds, and of it being used to cut through thick steel girders.
If you really want a "resists everything door", go for some kind of tungsten alloy. It might still be able to be breached with a tactical nuke, but it will possibly resist (for a while) a cutting lance and most other cutting tools. The only downside is that 6-foot thick tungsten alloy doors are going to be incredibly hard to manufacture, and incredibly expensive.
Remind me again what the melting temperature of steel is? about 1500 C? Yea, the lance will love that.
There is a massive difference between being "blast resistant" (ie, reinforced with rebar so that it doesnt crumble when damaged), and resisting a cutting tool that goes through pretty much every material we have, including carbon and tungsten.
I dont know that there are any materials we have that are designed to resist a point-blank nuclear bomb; generally the solution is "throw more concrete at it".
Usually a bomb isnt focused in the way a thermal lance is. Somewhere, there is an entrance to the bunker; direct your efforts there, and you will get in eventually.
The misconception here is that there are materials being used which can stand next to a nuclear blast and take no damage. Bunkers are generally concrete, and have doors; those can be breached by thermal lances (used in construction) and by strong explosives, or by bunker-buster bombs.
What materials exactly are they that are going to resist 4500 C cutting tools? You realize that a lot of bunkers are largely concrete, and that a thermal lance will go right through that, right? And that no bunker would completely withstand a nuclear blast-- it would take some damage, there is just sufficient material and the blast is sufficiently spread out that the bunker stands.
Once you start focusing with a lance on a bunker door, or break out a bunker-buster bomb designed to penetrate before exploding (rather than the mid-air explosion of a nuclear bomb), the bunker will fall.
This whole idea that they're impregnable is nonsense. There are cutting tools that will go through blast doors and concrete, and you can be sure that a determined SWAT team has access to them.
"Designed for nuclear war" doesnt mean you can just sit inside and not defend the premises as a demolition team goes to work on it, it just means it has some degree of resistance to a nuclear blast.
If the SWAT team really wants to get in and has the backing of the local government, theyre going to get in. Break out some torches / thermal lances and go to work on the door.
Generally bunkers and other fortifications only work if you prevent combat engineers from going to town on the premises.
When you do a VMWare infrastructure with multiple VLANs, one typical setup is to have a trunk port comes from the switches into each of the VMWare hosts. You can then assign "port groups" to a VLAN and VMWare will take care of tagging the traffic. Additionally, it will automatically create those port-groups on other clustered VMWare hosts, so that in the event of a fail-over the VM guest will continue to have network access.
You are right that some of the traffic would indeed have to go across a wire between VM hosts, but there are several possible scenarios; you could affinity several high-traffic VMs together with the pfSense box so that they all lived on the same host; you could dedicate a switch and some NICs to the inter-VLAN traffic; and Im sure there are other possibilities. But regardless, in most scenarios, less traffic will be hitting the switch and routing infrastructure than with a physical box, and certainly it is easier to monitor and control the traffic.
Because it allows you to do inter-VLAN routing right on the virtual infrastructure, with several big benefits.
1) your infrastructure no longer needs to have separate warm-standby appliances / routers to keep everything up during an outage; your firewall now gets in-built protection from HA / DRS
2) you can now centrally monitor and control inter-vlan traffic that comes from and goes to the virtual infrastructure, without sending that traffic out to a router and waiting for it to come back. If your firewall supports VMXNet drivers, your routing speed can easily exceed 10gbit/s, even on very modest hardware.
3) no additional costs for hardware, batteries, etc
4) ease of configuration, and ease of expansion. Need another VLAN for another class of server? Add a virtual NIC in VMWare, attach it to your virtual firewall, set up rules, done. No need to worry about additional traffic flying down the wire to / from your router.
I've done this both with Microsoft ISA 2004 (which is wonky) and pfsense; it works incredibly well in both circumstances. With ISA we could easily fire up wireshark if there was any odd traffic going around and capture everything, or limit to specific VLANs. Im not sure if youve worked with packet capture on Cisco, but its not nearly as easy to use or filter as wireshark.
Pretty sure you can also get Unreal Tournament 2002; thats how I learned to install nvidia drivers (in a linux class, no less-- i was technically learning).
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The issue isnt one of worth. Christianity does not teach that women or homosexuals have less worth, value, or whatever other metric than anyone else.
It does however think that women have a different role than men, and that homosexual activity is sinful. Such a public sin-- particularly if unrepentant, and willful-- would immediately disqualify one for a leadership role in the church.
You're free to disagree, but this is an issue of people saying "I dont care what the bible has to say about my behavior, and I want to be an elder anyways". Well, unfortunately that places you out of the running.
I would have been surprised that you got +5 insightful, but then historical accuracy has never really been a strong point of slashdot.
First, there is a massive difference between disapproving of a sexual practice, and discrimination. Its not "discrimination" to say "I think adultery / promiscuity is wrong"; why does it become discrimination to say "I think homosexual intercourse is wrong"? Is this the age of equivocation or something?
Womens rights... .you somehow act as if all throughout society women had all these wonderful rights and then christians came in and took them away. Meanwhile, back in reality, Christianity specifically marks out women and children as having some worth, in an age ( 1st / 2nd centuries AD) when they were seen as worthless and property of their husbands. In fact, throughout the Old and New testaments, it REPEATEDLY has women shown as having value-- in fact, the same value before God as men.
Regarding slavery, perhaps you should some more research on historical christian vs non-christian views and attitudes towards slaves and slavery-- ie, during OT times (Egypt, babylon vs hebrew), or NT times (christian vs roman), or during the abolition movement.
Regarding the latter, I might start you off here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_slavery#Christian_abolitionism
Although many abolitionists opposed slavery on purely philosophical reasons, anti-slavery movements attracted strong religious elements. Throughout Europe and the United States, Christians, usually from 'un-institutional' Christian faith movements, not directly connected with traditional state churches, or "non-conformist" believers within established churches, were to be found at the forefront of the abolitionist movements
I also like how you defined "on the losing side of an issue" as "doesnt agree with me". Protip-- socially conservative doesnt mean "doesnt contribute to charity" or "doesnt volunteer"; but Im sure all those friends I know serving at homeless shelters, assisting families of incarcerated men, providing free ESOL, etc are all heartless, greedy corporatists, right?
You want to talk about bigotry, honestly Ive seen more of it on slashdot towards christians than anything else. Your closing sentence kind of sums that up pretty well.
Prices dont always get cut in half just because you ordered 100,000 units.
I imagine if you replaced the CPU with some gravel, you could drive the price even closer to the target!
They're adding new stuff. Nothing old is being changed or removed.
Oh, ok, we'll tell that to all the apps that broke with JRE > 1.4.2u9 (ie, Cisco ASA crap). Or the apps that broke with JRE >1.5. Or >1.6u9.
If you havent seen incompatibilities due to java upgrades, be thankful: it means that you havent seen much of java.
An even more fun game is taking a stab at what Java version your computer has updated to at any one time. I thought I was on JRE 7u12, but I checked and we were up to u17 after a week.
You could probably make a pretty decent calendar out of JRE versions; year = 2006 + $MajorVersion, Week = $updateLevel.
Apparently something about the one makes the other absolutely impossible to fix. That, or Oracle simply doesnt care.
Either way, "a JRE plugin that wont ruin your network security" might be the most substantial feature ever, if they could hit it. Its all well and good to add new features to the language unless IT security everywhere are working on phasing out java (the client bits) because of its abysmal record...
In case its not clear enough: Steel is Iron + carbon. A thermal lance is a device which essentially BURNS iron for fuel, and is hot enough to cut through either of those materials separately and roughly 2-3 times hot enough to cut through the best steels out there.
The whole POINT of a thermal lance is to QUICKLY cut through strong steels and concrete by melting them into quick-flowing slag. I dont know how quickly it would go thru 6 feet of steel, but Ive seen a video of a thermal lance getting into a reinforced safe in about 10 seconds, and of it being used to cut through thick steel girders.
If you really want a "resists everything door", go for some kind of tungsten alloy. It might still be able to be breached with a tactical nuke, but it will possibly resist (for a while) a cutting lance and most other cutting tools. The only downside is that 6-foot thick tungsten alloy doors are going to be incredibly hard to manufacture, and incredibly expensive.
Remind me again what the melting temperature of steel is? about 1500 C? Yea, the lance will love that.
There is a massive difference between being "blast resistant" (ie, reinforced with rebar so that it doesnt crumble when damaged), and resisting a cutting tool that goes through pretty much every material we have, including carbon and tungsten.
A 1MT bomb will obliterate the blast door.
I dont know that there are any materials we have that are designed to resist a point-blank nuclear bomb; generally the solution is "throw more concrete at it".
How many 20 megaton bombs have been used, and how many bunkers would withstand one?
More to the point, what materials are being used, then, that will withstand a 4,500 C cutting tool for any appreciable length of time?
Usually a bomb isnt focused in the way a thermal lance is. Somewhere, there is an entrance to the bunker; direct your efforts there, and you will get in eventually.
Thermal lance.
The misconception here is that there are materials being used which can stand next to a nuclear blast and take no damage. Bunkers are generally concrete, and have doors; those can be breached by thermal lances (used in construction) and by strong explosives, or by bunker-buster bombs.
What materials exactly are they that are going to resist 4500 C cutting tools? You realize that a lot of bunkers are largely concrete, and that a thermal lance will go right through that, right? And that no bunker would completely withstand a nuclear blast-- it would take some damage, there is just sufficient material and the blast is sufficiently spread out that the bunker stands.
Once you start focusing with a lance on a bunker door, or break out a bunker-buster bomb designed to penetrate before exploding (rather than the mid-air explosion of a nuclear bomb), the bunker will fall.
Study about christian discrimination of atheists done by self-proclaimed atheist group.
Sounds like a neutral third party to me. We have any solid data? Receipts, etc?
And how long will it survive against a committed demo team? A few days?
You realize that basically any material that we can machine and work with, we have tools for destroying, right?
This whole idea that they're impregnable is nonsense. There are cutting tools that will go through blast doors and concrete, and you can be sure that a determined SWAT team has access to them.
"Designed for nuclear war" doesnt mean you can just sit inside and not defend the premises as a demolition team goes to work on it, it just means it has some degree of resistance to a nuclear blast.
Can that bunker handle demolition tools like thermal lances?
Because usually thats what you use when trying to break down fortifications, not the stuff the fortification was built for.
If the SWAT team really wants to get in and has the backing of the local government, theyre going to get in. Break out some torches / thermal lances and go to work on the door.
Generally bunkers and other fortifications only work if you prevent combat engineers from going to town on the premises.
When you do a VMWare infrastructure with multiple VLANs, one typical setup is to have a trunk port comes from the switches into each of the VMWare hosts. You can then assign "port groups" to a VLAN and VMWare will take care of tagging the traffic. Additionally, it will automatically create those port-groups on other clustered VMWare hosts, so that in the event of a fail-over the VM guest will continue to have network access.
You are right that some of the traffic would indeed have to go across a wire between VM hosts, but there are several possible scenarios; you could affinity several high-traffic VMs together with the pfSense box so that they all lived on the same host; you could dedicate a switch and some NICs to the inter-VLAN traffic; and Im sure there are other possibilities. But regardless, in most scenarios, less traffic will be hitting the switch and routing infrastructure than with a physical box, and certainly it is easier to monitor and control the traffic.
Because it allows you to do inter-VLAN routing right on the virtual infrastructure, with several big benefits.
1) your infrastructure no longer needs to have separate warm-standby appliances / routers to keep everything up during an outage; your firewall now gets in-built protection from HA / DRS
2) you can now centrally monitor and control inter-vlan traffic that comes from and goes to the virtual infrastructure, without sending that traffic out to a router and waiting for it to come back. If your firewall supports VMXNet drivers, your routing speed can easily exceed 10gbit/s, even on very modest hardware.
3) no additional costs for hardware, batteries, etc
4) ease of configuration, and ease of expansion. Need another VLAN for another class of server? Add a virtual NIC in VMWare, attach it to your virtual firewall, set up rules, done. No need to worry about additional traffic flying down the wire to / from your router.
I've done this both with Microsoft ISA 2004 (which is wonky) and pfsense; it works incredibly well in both circumstances. With ISA we could easily fire up wireshark if there was any odd traffic going around and capture everything, or limit to specific VLANs. Im not sure if youve worked with packet capture on Cisco, but its not nearly as easy to use or filter as wireshark.
Thats fairly impressive, good to know, and opens the door for HyperV for me on several projects, thanks for the heads up.
Correction to above, I was able to get XenServer running in Workstation, it was bad settings on Workstation.
If you dont want to tolerate it, set your threshold to hide -1 comments. Thats the whole point of comment moderation thresholds.
Pretty sure you can also get Unreal Tournament 2002; thats how I learned to install nvidia drivers (in a linux class, no less-- i was technically learning).