One person doing something does not meant that the 50% of the population who share her gender is dishonest.
For a moment I read that as "does not meant that the 50% of the population who share his gender.." and thought you were commenting about the absurdity of the broad-based accusations that men in general are the problem.
Then I re-read and realized you were just being disingenuous.
How about not inventing an entire 45 minute scenario with the Dwarves in the mountain running from Smaug?
As I recall the extent of what happened in the mountain was Bilbo was a sneaky thief, and the dragon flew out to torch the town. How exactly was the story enriched by the hairbrained scheme to drown the dragon in gold?
That tugboat you call a mouse and the GUI are fine for your desktop, but if I see xorg installed on servers under my control I remove it.
And if the server doesnt have xorg, the discussion is moot. For those that do however, it might as well also have NetworkManager as it makes life simpler.
Obviously I use ssh for most linux connections, but there are times where there is a GUI.
At least in CentOS and RHEL 7, NetworkManager does VLANs and Bonding and bridges in about 2 clicks. Add interface, choose bonding | VLAN | bridge, and go.
bridged VLAN's (yes, those are a thing)
Set up your VLAN interfaces, bridge them. Not seeing the issue.
And... and... well, 90% of the other functionality that is offered by the Linux networking stack.
90% of the other functionality isnt relevant 90% of the time. The point of a GUI is to offer the most common options, and from my usage of NM, it does that admirably.
So sure, if you're a sandwich shop putting a $500 server under the cash register, or you are a teenage college student setting up a video sharing network for your bro's in the flop house you board in, NetworkManager will work fine for you.
What about a network engineer who has better things to do than spend more time researching the syntax for setting up tagging on a single node than it took to set up the switch infrastructure?
As someone who is deeply familiar with networking but only vaguely familiar with Linux's arcane ways of configuring its network-- which apparently change drastically depending on such things as:
* whether you want it to be per-session (ifconfig)
* or persistent (/etc/DependsOnYourDistro/someFiles)
* whether it should actually persist with the interface rather than how the kernel decides to allocate/devs to the actual interface and so on-- I am quite happy to see NetworkManager. THere is no reason that setting up a bonded or tagged interface should be more complicated than saying it verbally, or why I should have to fall back to CLI in order to do that.
Heres a fun tip: not everyone wants to be a full-time Linux admin devoted to a particular breed of distro. Some of us have a job in supporting a very wide array of systems, and the less arcane black magic we need to learn for each individual system the better. Historically Linux's networking has been AWFUL, as just a few years ago it was considered normal for a box's IP-to-interface mapping change on reboot because apparently its logical that the OS randomly assign interface IDs to physical interfaces, and there were roughly a hundred different methods and places to configure all of the various networking pieces (resolvers, mac addresses, firewall, bonding, vlans, device/interface mapping).
It boggles my mind that there are people who think that complexity for complexity's sake is a good thing. CLI is wonderful for batch operations that you do every day. GUI is wonderful for things you will do once a month, and dont want to use mental bandwidth for remembering a command.
Cops should NEVER be allowed to lie outside of specific, warrant backed undercover operations
They arent under oath, by what logic would you make that statement?
Cops arent lawyers, and they arent your lawyer, so I hope you arent expecting valid legal advice from them, and I certainly hope you arent talking to them without valid legal advice.
Is anyone confused by the fact that cops can lie in the course of their work? Because thats something everyone should be crystal clear on: they can.
Or maybe people dont understand that things you share with a cop, even "off the record", can be on the record. That, too, is a myth that should be dispelled.
The same thing that stops someone from 3d-printing a nuclear warhead and blowing up a city: the fact that it molds material, it doesnt transmute materials.
You're right that I did get them confused. I honestly have no idea who Sarkesian is, other than (apparently) an activist feminist who is for some reason involved in gaming.
Im (also) still not clear where the relevance to the real world is here.
My gosh people said that? On the internet? What a shocker that that would happen in the gaming community!
Anyone-- regardless of gender-- who has been in online games for any length of time has heard this crap so many times you would expect them to dismiss it out of hand.
Not only that, but its pretty weak to try to justify the position that sexism is endemic in the gaming community by pulling up a single, generic, non-gender-based threat aimed at a controversial figure. I suppose we must have a problem with racism towards old white guys because of the number of threats George W Bush got, right? Maybe instead we should recognize that vocal minorities-- like people issuing abusrd threats about assault rifles and pipe bombs which would make 4chan proud-- are not typically a good representation of anything. If someone wants to make the case that we have an actual issue here, maybe we can get some actual statistics or empirical evidence-- something which I recall being absent from all of these discussions.
But of course these discussions were never about a level-headed approach to identifying a problem, they were about pushing political correctness to new extremes.
The reason you don't care (and the reason you still felt you needed to comment TELLING us you don't care) is because you're lucky enough to have the luxury and privilege to ignore these stories.
No, the real problem is that I actually read the story way back when, understood the issues apparently better than you did, but because Im not agreeing with you you're painting me with a broad "privileged white male" brush and dismissing my viewpoint.
The issue I had if you must know is that 95% of the criticism leveled at Sarkesian-- such as her generally unprofessional (ie intimate) relationships with reviewers of her games, her apparent pathological lying, and the fact that she makes unremarkable games and somehow gets airtime because shes a woman (and possibly because of the first issue)-- were accurate. But because they were leveled at a woman, people decide to pull the sexism card and label all men as trash; you may not have done this, but its the vibe that oozes out of every one of these topics.
The whole political correctness BS is absurd. If Sarkesian wants to make a game and wants to be in the industry thats her business, and I'll expect her games and her opinions to stand or fall on their on merits-- not on some misguided attempt to "normalize" the gender ratio by pandering to feminist BS.
The reason I dont care? Fundamentally this entire thing is people trying to play the victim card and claim that the world is ending because other people said mean things about them. I deal with far more substantial issues in the tiny kingdom that is my office every day. This stuff isnt newsworthy, its drama worthy of a GameFaqs messageboard or perhaps 4chan.
You missed the part where its apparently completely true that she has had a closer relationship with reviewers of her game than would be considered professional, and apparently has the empathy of a shark.
Not that thats really newsworthy or anyones business but hers-- but lets not paint her as a saint here.
If you're getting up in a tizzy about some dumb comment made by some angsty teenager on some forum, you should probably just sign off the internet now. Didnt Jon Gabriel have a pretty concise theory explaining this behavior somewhere?
I would argue this point but then I realized that-- just as OP says-- noone including myself cares. I dont even really know what half of the people here are talking about with "pro-gamergate" and "anti-gamergate" because I stopped caring about halfway into the second article on the issue. Fact is that theres a lot of sleazy people and Im not really clear why an article on it is news, or why Yet Another Sexism Accusation against gamers is news either.
Noone cares because both sides are being dumb and generating drama for drama's sake. Everyone needs to get over themselves, neither side is being persecuted-- theyre just playing the victim card.
To this day I dont really know which side is the anti-GG and which is the pro-gg side. I know there was some female reporter who turned out to apparently have no ethics whatsoever, a sizeable chunk of drama, and a huge dose of irony; the people worried about the low ethics in gaming journalism ended up creating so much drama that theres no chance anyone will mistake gaming journalism as anything serious, ethics issues or not.
Its good enough that Im willing to look past it to avoid all of the other massive issues Blackberry has, like its inability to interact meaningfully with the world outside of its corporate network.
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One person doing something does not meant that the 50% of the population who share her gender is dishonest.
For a moment I read that as "does not meant that the 50% of the population who share his gender.." and thought you were commenting about the absurdity of the broad-based accusations that men in general are the problem.
Then I re-read and realized you were just being disingenuous.
How about not inventing an entire 45 minute scenario with the Dwarves in the mountain running from Smaug?
As I recall the extent of what happened in the mountain was Bilbo was a sneaky thief, and the dragon flew out to torch the town. How exactly was the story enriched by the hairbrained scheme to drown the dragon in gold?
That tugboat you call a mouse and the GUI are fine for your desktop, but if I see xorg installed on servers under my control I remove it.
And if the server doesnt have xorg, the discussion is moot. For those that do however, it might as well also have NetworkManager as it makes life simpler.
Obviously I use ssh for most linux connections, but there are times where there is a GUI.
I missed the part where it is illegal for a state actor to lie when not under oath.
ifconfig doesnt persist changes. Thats also not made obvious to the unfamiliar.
Gotchas like that are why you need NetworkManager.
Is there anything Unix about Gnome? How exactly is this a useful criticism?
Theres also nothing Unix about HTML, or CSS; maybe you're on the wrong website, Geocites is that way.
At least in CentOS and RHEL 7, NetworkManager does VLANs and Bonding and bridges in about 2 clicks. Add interface, choose bonding | VLAN | bridge, and go.
bridged VLAN's (yes, those are a thing)
Set up your VLAN interfaces, bridge them. Not seeing the issue.
And ... and... well, 90% of the other functionality that is offered by the Linux networking stack.
90% of the other functionality isnt relevant 90% of the time. The point of a GUI is to offer the most common options, and from my usage of NM, it does that admirably.
So sure, if you're a sandwich shop putting a $500 server under the cash register, or you are a teenage college student setting up a video sharing network for your bro's in the flop house you board in, NetworkManager will work fine for you.
What about a network engineer who has better things to do than spend more time researching the syntax for setting up tagging on a single node than it took to set up the switch infrastructure?
As someone who is deeply familiar with networking but only vaguely familiar with Linux's arcane ways of configuring its network-- which apparently change drastically depending on such things as: /devs to the actual interface
* whether you want it to be per-session (ifconfig)
* or persistent (/etc/DependsOnYourDistro/someFiles)
* whether it should actually persist with the interface rather than how the kernel decides to allocate
and so on-- I am quite happy to see NetworkManager. THere is no reason that setting up a bonded or tagged interface should be more complicated than saying it verbally, or why I should have to fall back to CLI in order to do that.
Heres a fun tip: not everyone wants to be a full-time Linux admin devoted to a particular breed of distro. Some of us have a job in supporting a very wide array of systems, and the less arcane black magic we need to learn for each individual system the better. Historically Linux's networking has been AWFUL, as just a few years ago it was considered normal for a box's IP-to-interface mapping change on reboot because apparently its logical that the OS randomly assign interface IDs to physical interfaces, and there were roughly a hundred different methods and places to configure all of the various networking pieces (resolvers, mac addresses, firewall, bonding, vlans, device/interface mapping).
It boggles my mind that there are people who think that complexity for complexity's sake is a good thing. CLI is wonderful for batch operations that you do every day. GUI is wonderful for things you will do once a month, and dont want to use mental bandwidth for remembering a command.
There are valid circumstances to fire a gun there. AFAIK there are no valid circumstances for firing a normal pistol in an airborne airplane.
Imagine having to wait while the guy attempts to jimmy it into an overhead compartment, I cant imagine it'd fit well.
Why arent you talking to your lawyer here, and why are you assuming the cop has information on how the sentencing goes?
The cop isnt your legal counsel. Dont treat him as such.
but if people lie to cops, they can go to prison.
Yea, thats not how it works. There is no situation where it would be legal for a cop to lie, but illegal for a civilian to lie.
Cops should NEVER be allowed to lie outside of specific, warrant backed undercover operations
They arent under oath, by what logic would you make that statement?
Cops arent lawyers, and they arent your lawyer, so I hope you arent expecting valid legal advice from them, and I certainly hope you arent talking to them without valid legal advice.
The shipping container is different in that it can be hooked up to a truck and driven off.
Is anyone confused by the fact that cops can lie in the course of their work? Because thats something everyone should be crystal clear on: they can.
Or maybe people dont understand that things you share with a cop, even "off the record", can be on the record. That, too, is a myth that should be dispelled.
The same thing that stops someone from 3d-printing a nuclear warhead and blowing up a city: the fact that it molds material, it doesnt transmute materials.
You're right that I did get them confused. I honestly have no idea who Sarkesian is, other than (apparently) an activist feminist who is for some reason involved in gaming.
Im (also) still not clear where the relevance to the real world is here.
It was always about the revenue, safety was a smokescreen swallowed by the gullible
On the flipside, 80% of the people arguing against them really just want to be able to run red lights with impunity.
My gosh people said that? On the internet? What a shocker that that would happen in the gaming community!
Anyone-- regardless of gender-- who has been in online games for any length of time has heard this crap so many times you would expect them to dismiss it out of hand.
Not only that, but its pretty weak to try to justify the position that sexism is endemic in the gaming community by pulling up a single, generic, non-gender-based threat aimed at a controversial figure. I suppose we must have a problem with racism towards old white guys because of the number of threats George W Bush got, right? Maybe instead we should recognize that vocal minorities-- like people issuing abusrd threats about assault rifles and pipe bombs which would make 4chan proud-- are not typically a good representation of anything. If someone wants to make the case that we have an actual issue here, maybe we can get some actual statistics or empirical evidence-- something which I recall being absent from all of these discussions.
But of course these discussions were never about a level-headed approach to identifying a problem, they were about pushing political correctness to new extremes.
The reason you don't care (and the reason you still felt you needed to comment TELLING us you don't care) is because you're lucky enough to have the luxury and privilege to ignore these stories.
No, the real problem is that I actually read the story way back when, understood the issues apparently better than you did, but because Im not agreeing with you you're painting me with a broad "privileged white male" brush and dismissing my viewpoint.
The issue I had if you must know is that 95% of the criticism leveled at Sarkesian-- such as her generally unprofessional (ie intimate) relationships with reviewers of her games, her apparent pathological lying, and the fact that she makes unremarkable games and somehow gets airtime because shes a woman (and possibly because of the first issue)-- were accurate. But because they were leveled at a woman, people decide to pull the sexism card and label all men as trash; you may not have done this, but its the vibe that oozes out of every one of these topics.
The whole political correctness BS is absurd. If Sarkesian wants to make a game and wants to be in the industry thats her business, and I'll expect her games and her opinions to stand or fall on their on merits-- not on some misguided attempt to "normalize" the gender ratio by pandering to feminist BS.
The reason I dont care? Fundamentally this entire thing is people trying to play the victim card and claim that the world is ending because other people said mean things about them. I deal with far more substantial issues in the tiny kingdom that is my office every day. This stuff isnt newsworthy, its drama worthy of a GameFaqs messageboard or perhaps 4chan.
You missed the part where its apparently completely true that she has had a closer relationship with reviewers of her game than would be considered professional, and apparently has the empathy of a shark.
Not that thats really newsworthy or anyones business but hers-- but lets not paint her as a saint here.
If you're getting up in a tizzy about some dumb comment made by some angsty teenager on some forum, you should probably just sign off the internet now. Didnt Jon Gabriel have a pretty concise theory explaining this behavior somewhere?
I would argue this point but then I realized that-- just as OP says-- noone including myself cares. I dont even really know what half of the people here are talking about with "pro-gamergate" and "anti-gamergate" because I stopped caring about halfway into the second article on the issue. Fact is that theres a lot of sleazy people and Im not really clear why an article on it is news, or why Yet Another Sexism Accusation against gamers is news either.
Noone cares because both sides are being dumb and generating drama for drama's sake. Everyone needs to get over themselves, neither side is being persecuted-- theyre just playing the victim card.
To this day I dont really know which side is the anti-GG and which is the pro-gg side. I know there was some female reporter who turned out to apparently have no ethics whatsoever, a sizeable chunk of drama, and a huge dose of irony; the people worried about the low ethics in gaming journalism ended up creating so much drama that theres no chance anyone will mistake gaming journalism as anything serious, ethics issues or not.
Its good enough that Im willing to look past it to avoid all of the other massive issues Blackberry has, like its inability to interact meaningfully with the world outside of its corporate network.