These students should avoid failure by blowing $150k in college to qualify for a entry level job. Much more successful.
Whenever I see this I have to ask, "what posessed that young student to go to an out-of-state college"?
I mean, I am right now attending college part time (trying to convert an awful associates to a full bachelors). Im just finished freshman / sophmore levels at a community college at a whopping $95 per credit hour, and will be going to a state university this fall at an astounding $500 per credit hour. My bill at the end of all of this will be less than $45000, for a full bachelors degree.
I could, of course, have chosen to go to an out-of-state ritzy school like Georgetown, lived on campus, and blown $45000 per semester... but then, I really wouldnt have anyone else to blame for my debt but myself, would I?
Just clicking away seems like a breeze compared to that.
Lets see what the article says... "If I couldn't complete my work quota, they would punish me physically. They would make me stand with my hands raised in the air and after I returned to my dormitory they would beat me with plastic pipes. We kept playing until we could barely see things,"
This isnt a story, because we've long known that bruteforcing 10000 combinations isnt hard. Throwing the iPhone's name out there is perhaps a way to make this sound impressive or novel, but its not.
unlike my old XP machine where I wouldn't even think about plugging in an ethernet cable without my security suite all up and running to make sure nothing gets in and nothing gets run and the things that do get taken care of.
to make sure nothing gets in and nothing gets run and the things that do get taken care of.
Im not sure what all thats supposed to mean, but Windows already double and triple-checks to the point of ridiculousness that a user really wants to execute downloaded content.
This simply does not happen on Mac. I am sorry, but it is true.
This story is precisely about how you are wrong, and how all the so-called PC apologists have been right all along about market share and Macs getting their due. Last I checked, Macs run most of the same applications as PCs-- Firefox, Safari, Itunes/Quicktime, Flash, Adobe Acrobat. And last I checked, it is precisely that software that has been exploited in about 95% of the Windows exploits; what on earth made you think you were safe because the OS was different? Once the exploit has run, whether you are on Windows 7 or OSX doesnt really matter (especially since their security countermeasures are about the same).
Apple needs to acknowledge that 90% of users download potentially-executable stuff from the internet, and OSX needs to get savvy security-wise on that... growing pains and all.
Having spent years trying to convince the world that viruses, trojans, and generally "bad-ware" is an exclusively Windows phenomenon (with their "im a Mac" ads), a lot of this falls directly on Apple's head. THEY are responsible for misinforming users, and leading them into a false sense of complacency.
Reading slashdot is kind of like a game, where the goal is to see if you can anticipate in what ways the summary is false, prior to reading the article. For instance, in this case, it might have been that Samsung wasnt actually involved, or that there wasnt a court case but a tersley worded request; turns out that Apple DOESNT get the unreleased designs.
If by "mozilla bigwigs" you mean some blogger who doesnt cut a paycheck from mozilla at all, who has no impact on the development process, then yea.
FACT: you didnt read the article FACT: you have no idea what youre talking about, and lost a ton of credibility when you started talking about "Mozilla big-wigs"
And on slashdot, its "make snide comment about article that I didnt even read, and hope for a +5 insightful".
Noone at Mozilla is working on this, noone @ Mozilla has even indicated its a plan. This is a bloggers opinion; he is a blogger who happens to be a extension author, but thats about the extent of his influence on the process.
David Regev isnt a Mozilla employee, and Google hasnt removed the URL bar at all. They added an additional experimental layout option to the Dev version of firefox; for reference, they have already had side-tabs as an optional experiment for about the last 7 versions.
But no, everyone get all in a panic, some dev is toying with some ideas and some one with no say in Firefox has an opinion.
Whens the last time youve used firefox 2? I have about 50 feet from me some servers running Solaris with firefox 2.0 on them. Since they didnt have curl, fetch, wget, or any of the other tools, I thought I would go online and download a software client that I needed through firefox. You know, after about the 5th crash / lockup on the same page, my appreciation for more recent versions of firefox grew.
I think I ended up going straight to ftp.mozilla.org and downloading a more recent firefox, after which it all worked wonderfully. Whats that old saying, the grass is always greener...?
Id be in favor of that, maybe it would teach some clever web devs that the URL bar isnt supposed to be used for data storage. Some of the URLs I see floating around up there are ridiculous.
Well, they ignored the massive backlash about removing the status bar
Firefox v4.0.1: Rightclick the menubar, click "add-on bar". Problem solved.
And "massive backlash"? I have a lot of friends and family who use firefox-- version 4.0-- and not once have I heard a frustrated "arrrrggh, where is my stinking status bar". Mostly, they seem to care more about whats on the webpage, than on what browser theyre using.
Enough with the hyperbole, they could make the back button bright pink and rename the tools menu to "WRENCH STORED HERE" and 90% of users wouldnt care.
Theyre not. This guy doesnt work at Mozilla, nor have any say-- he is (to quote the post) "community member, David Regev — a philosopher, Firefox enthusiast, and an aspiring interaction designer."
Such a compelling, non-sensationalist story, right?
Oh for the love of... Does noone have sufficient skepticism of Slashdot summaries to actually read the article, watching for blatant editor fabrications?
According to the article, the person making this comment-- on a blog, no less-- doesnt work at mozilla, and isnt even a mozilla dev-- he is an extension author. Real telling stuff here.
And his comment doesnt even say he is in favor of removing a mechanism for viewing current URL:
The location bar has to go. It has many problems....Moreover, it’s modal: it has a mode for displaying the current page’s location and a mode for entering your next destination. It’s not always immediately obvious which mode you’re in and what the current text is indicating, and switching modes is not easy either.....We need to separate the location bar’s two modes and remove the location bar as we know it.
That could be taken any number of ways; perhaps he is suggesting a redesign, not a removal.
And again, the guy doesnt even have any say at mozilla, the extent of his influence is that, as an extension author, he has a spot on the Mozilla Labs blogs. Whoop-die-do.
Im not cursing, just pointing out that perhaps the reason you dont see the issue is because youre not responsible for managing (/securing and auditing) more than a handful of machines. Efficiency is wonderful and all, but good luck deploying a few hundred macs and keeping them all up to company spec (unless theres some centralized management for OSX that I am unaware of).
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Theres no reason the malware cant install in usermode, and also attempt an elevated install for real rootkit goodness.
These students should avoid failure by blowing $150k in college to qualify for a entry level job. Much more successful.
Whenever I see this I have to ask, "what posessed that young student to go to an out-of-state college"?
I mean, I am right now attending college part time (trying to convert an awful associates to a full bachelors). Im just finished freshman / sophmore levels at a community college at a whopping $95 per credit hour, and will be going to a state university this fall at an astounding $500 per credit hour. My bill at the end of all of this will be less than $45000, for a full bachelors degree.
I could, of course, have chosen to go to an out-of-state ritzy school like Georgetown, lived on campus, and blown $45000 per semester... but then, I really wouldnt have anyone else to blame for my debt but myself, would I?
Just clicking away seems like a breeze compared to that.
Lets see what the article says...
"If I couldn't complete my work quota, they would punish me physically. They would make me stand with my hands raised in the air and after I returned to my dormitory they would beat me with plastic pipes. We kept playing until we could barely see things,"
Yea, sounds super easy.
This isnt a story, because we've long known that bruteforcing 10000 combinations isnt hard. Throwing the iPhone's name out there is perhaps a way to make this sound impressive or novel, but its not.
There is an addon to fix that trivially. This is what extensions are for.
I'd go so far as to say that if you use a Mac, you should TRY to infect yourself sometime.
Rather odd to be making that statement with such smugness in a topic discussing the fact that people are, in fact, getting infected, on Macs.
unlike my old XP machine where I wouldn't even think about plugging in an ethernet cable without my security suite all up and running to make sure nothing gets in and nothing gets run and the things that do get taken care of.
to make sure nothing gets in and nothing gets run and the things that do get taken care of.
Im not sure what all thats supposed to mean, but Windows already double and triple-checks to the point of ridiculousness that a user really wants to execute downloaded content.
This simply does not happen on Mac. I am sorry, but it is true.
This story is precisely about how you are wrong, and how all the so-called PC apologists have been right all along about market share and Macs getting their due. Last I checked, Macs run most of the same applications as PCs-- Firefox, Safari, Itunes/Quicktime, Flash, Adobe Acrobat. And last I checked, it is precisely that software that has been exploited in about 95% of the Windows exploits; what on earth made you think you were safe because the OS was different? Once the exploit has run, whether you are on Windows 7 or OSX doesnt really matter (especially since their security countermeasures are about the same).
Apple needs to acknowledge that 90% of users download potentially-executable stuff from the internet, and OSX needs to get savvy security-wise on that... growing pains and all.
Having spent years trying to convince the world that viruses, trojans, and generally "bad-ware" is an exclusively Windows phenomenon (with their "im a Mac" ads), a lot of this falls directly on Apple's head. THEY are responsible for misinforming users, and leading them into a false sense of complacency.
Thats what GPOs are for, and denying execute permissions to the user's home folder.
Reading slashdot is kind of like a game, where the goal is to see if you can anticipate in what ways the summary is false, prior to reading the article. For instance, in this case, it might have been that Samsung wasnt actually involved, or that there wasnt a court case but a tersley worded request; turns out that Apple DOESNT get the unreleased designs.
I find it to be a good form of mental exercise.
If by "mozilla bigwigs" you mean some blogger who doesnt cut a paycheck from mozilla at all, who has no impact on the development process, then yea.
FACT: you didnt read the article
FACT: you have no idea what youre talking about, and lost a ton of credibility when you started talking about "Mozilla big-wigs"
And on slashdot, its "make snide comment about article that I didnt even read, and hope for a +5 insightful".
Noone at Mozilla is working on this, noone @ Mozilla has even indicated its a plan. This is a bloggers opinion; he is a blogger who happens to be a extension author, but thats about the extent of his influence on the process.
David Regev isnt a Mozilla employee, and Google hasnt removed the URL bar at all. They added an additional experimental layout option to the Dev version of firefox; for reference, they have already had side-tabs as an optional experiment for about the last 7 versions.
But no, everyone get all in a panic, some dev is toying with some ideas and some one with no say in Firefox has an opinion.
Whens the last time youve used firefox 2? I have about 50 feet from me some servers running Solaris with firefox 2.0 on them. Since they didnt have curl, fetch, wget, or any of the other tools, I thought I would go online and download a software client that I needed through firefox. You know, after about the 5th crash / lockup on the same page, my appreciation for more recent versions of firefox grew.
I think I ended up going straight to ftp.mozilla.org and downloading a more recent firefox, after which it all worked wonderfully. Whats that old saying, the grass is always greener...?
Id be in favor of that, maybe it would teach some clever web devs that the URL bar isnt supposed to be used for data storage. Some of the URLs I see floating around up there are ridiculous.
And you know who else railed for keeping address bars at all cost?
Hitler.
Well, they ignored the massive backlash about removing the status bar
Firefox v4.0.1: Rightclick the menubar, click "add-on bar". Problem solved.
And "massive backlash"? I have a lot of friends and family who use firefox-- version 4.0-- and not once have I heard a frustrated "arrrrggh, where is my stinking status bar". Mostly, they seem to care more about whats on the webpage, than on what browser theyre using.
Enough with the hyperbole, they could make the back button bright pink and rename the tools menu to "WRENCH STORED HERE" and 90% of users wouldnt care.
Yes, because software developers are totally to blame for the shift to widescreen displays.
"They" is one guy who doesnt have any relationship with mozilla except that he produces an extension and uses firefox.
Its really disheartening to see so many knee-jerk reactions to a made-up story.
Theyre not. This guy doesnt work at Mozilla, nor have any say-- he is (to quote the post) "community member, David Regev — a philosopher, Firefox enthusiast, and an aspiring interaction designer."
Such a compelling, non-sensationalist story, right?
Oh for the love of... Does noone have sufficient skepticism of Slashdot summaries to actually read the article, watching for blatant editor fabrications?
According to the article, the person making this comment-- on a blog, no less-- doesnt work at mozilla, and isnt even a mozilla dev-- he is an extension author. Real telling stuff here.
And his comment doesnt even say he is in favor of removing a mechanism for viewing current URL:
The location bar has to go. It has many problems. ...Moreover, it’s modal: it has a mode for displaying the current page’s location and a mode for entering your next destination. It’s not always immediately obvious which mode you’re in and what the current text is indicating, and switching modes is not easy either.....We need to separate the location bar’s two modes and remove the location bar as we know it.
That could be taken any number of ways; perhaps he is suggesting a redesign, not a removal.
And again, the guy doesnt even have any say at mozilla, the extent of his influence is that, as an extension author, he has a spot on the Mozilla Labs blogs. Whoop-die-do.
The constitution, AFAIK, doesnt grant rights to citizens, but lays down the limits of the federal government (in theory).
I was kind of wondering why the "probably was a tsunami" thing was news, honestly. I thought everyone knew that starting 2 months ago.
This entire story seems like a repost of a repost.
It is a foreshadowing of things to come, and hence why is so upsetting (Ive never even used Asterisk, honestly).
Im not cursing, just pointing out that perhaps the reason you dont see the issue is because youre not responsible for managing ( /securing and auditing) more than a handful of machines. Efficiency is wonderful and all, but good luck deploying a few hundred macs and keeping them all up to company spec (unless theres some centralized management for OSX that I am unaware of).