Not necessarily always, these are two vastly different issues.
The abortion issue is not about choice, or about freedoms, or about income levels-- it is just about whether or not the fetus is human. If it is not, the "pro-life" camp has no ground. If it is human, then those other considerations are irrelevant, because it becomes a question of "are we willing to commit infanticide". For whatever reason, people dont seem to want to be honest about what the debate is on; theyd rather come up with names like "pro-choice" and "pro-life" (are YOU against choice? or life? How dare you!) and resort to such tactics as ignoring the "is it human" question and claiming you hate freedom, or showing aborted fetuses for shock value.
The capital punishment issue is not about the same thing, we already know the guy on death row is human. Its just a question of whether any crime (and what crimes) would be most justly served by killing the person. Or, depending on your views on the justice system's purpose, whether it is a good enough deterrent for future crimes for others in society, or whether the man can be rehabilitated (both of which I think are bad ways of viewing the justice system, but whatever).
So yes, it IS possible to think that fetuses are human, and thus abortion is necessarily infanticide, while simultaneously thinking that yes, some crimes do merit the capital punishment. Im sure on the flip side you could find a "pro-choice" person who is against the death penalty, or any other combination of beliefs.... because theyre 2 separate issues.
The point of a justice system is to try to persuade them to not do stupid things any more.
See, THIS is where we start having problems. The point of a justice system is to administer justice, NOT to try to disuade crime-- thats just one of the side effects. When you start getting into this mentality "whatever is best for society" when dealing with the judicial system, you can start to go really wacky places-- why not convict an innocent man of a crime if it would be best for society (if, say, the case was sealed, his guilt can be easily faked, and it would be a good deterrent)?
That train of thought is why we have these sorts of issues-- someone is convicted of a crime, pays the penalty, and then on TOP of that has the rest of his life basically ruined. Is it justice? No, but thats irrelevant!! What we're doing is good for society!
If the law is ineffective, then its no good pointing to the data and saying "but the statistics show that X is bad!" If the law is unenforcable, that is worse than nothing at all as it just increases the complexity of the law in general and causes contempt for it.
You have to take your eyes off the road completely and focus most of your attention on entering your text message.
I get the arguments against texting, but making false claims isnt really helpful to the discussion. There is such a thing as touch typing, and it is possible to do with a mobile phone. I can write a fairly lengthy email to someone on my blackberry as I walk down the street only glancing down once at the end to make sure there were no glaring typos; usually there are none.
you have a chance to say it wasn't reckless because you're a just that good at driving or a variety of other subjective excuses. This can eat up court time etc.
That excuse actually WORKS?? What state are YOU in?
I've never really gotten that handsfree kits reduce the distraction, is the idea that you're waving your phone around and looking at it as you talk? Or possibly they just passed the law so that it LOOKS like fewer people are on the phone and everyone is happy?
I would not trust such a system like homeschooling to objectively and effectively educate most children.
Right, its not like the kids have to pass any tests or meet any guidelines when being homeschooled.....
Relying on parents is an invitation for indoctrination and intellectual inbreeding.
Because NONE of that happens in public schools, right? And are you seriously suggesting that homeschooling cant be competitive with public schools? I remember in High school I had a couple of excellent teachers, but there were also several that were pretty bad. Aside from all that, having the parent actually take a direct role in the kids life (as opposed to basically letting the school system raise the kid) is definitely a good thing.
Hasnt it LONG been recommended you NOT do that because of the major security issues with that? Im no JS whiz, but cant JS on a page sniff the address bar? Wouldnt that mean an ad on the page could sniff that data out?
. Recently though, despite all the releases and the announcements on brand new 10x-faster JavaScript interpreters I find it's bogging down to an almost unusable level.
Wait, what browser do you use that seems so much faster? Certainly not Opera, what with its awful JS performance (tho the beta is slick). Try using an old version of firefox sometime and tell me whether its faster, or whether it just crawls on modern JS heavy pages.
Any chance its the fault of A) your background apps, B) your plugins (ie flash), C) the webpages you visit, or D) a faulty memory?
Once upon a time there used to be configuration to permit or deny javascript to run - now this is split into 12 different parameters, 7 of which are hidden behind the about:config screen
Actually, the multiple javascript options were there back in Firefox 1.0, and were later stripped out, and after public outcry, re-added.
Do you expect 'backspace' to go 'backwards' in your browsing history?.... for no understandable reason they decided that the Linux Firefox should do nothing upon pressing backspace,
Has it occured to you this is an Ubuntu setting, not linux in general? A quick google (and my memory) tells me that fedora for example has no such issue.
Yeh, privacy, HUH?
Are you implying firefox sends that data somewhere? Try doing the same thing with IE, and then running strings on index.dat (all 8 of them). Have you done similar testing on chrome, or opera? Or do you just assume theyre all perfect on removing all traces of history from every file they own?
Didnt you see that interview from several months back? I think Conroy made the comment "you dont know the things that are out there, you cant trust parents to keep their kids safe" (I cant find the exact link, but it was on a BBC interview). That pretty much sums up whats happening here, government wants to raise your kids for you.
What we have in the USA, today, is fascism: corporations running the government and writing our laws
Even were your assertion that corporations run the government true, thats NOT what fascism is. Not a political buff here but that almost seems like the reverse of fascism; dont fascist governments sieze control of production and industry, not the other way around?
And being I'm a Pro-Choice kind of guy, I find Obama's taking away of my choices ("buy healthcare or be fined!") to be objectionable.
How do you think pro-life folks feel, as they find abortion morally objectionable (to put it lightly), and are being forced to pay for something they find abhorrent?
Thats true, but unlike communism, abstinence also works as a preventative in the real world as well. Getting everyone to abstain may be a problem, but that doesnt diminish its effectiveness.
Incidentally, could part of the problem be the attitude seen above, with one poster ridiculing another over the suggestion of abstinence? And people wonder why its such a problem getting the average kid to abstain?
So you think its a good idea for the LAWYERS to have to make that "guilty, not guilty" decision, and to hell with a mans right to have his case heard?
"Right to a fair trial" means PRECISELY that it should only be a jury making the decision on the merits of a plaintiffs claims, not the cops, not bystanders, and not lawyers. A lawyers job is to make sure that those rights are given.
Quoting from that chart.... Each country lists 6 contributing factors, share of malicious computer activity, malicious code rank, spam zombies rank, phishing web site hosts rank, bot rank and attack origin, to substantiate its cybercrime ranking.
So in otherwords being a victim-- having a hijacked computer-- gets you ranked up on that chart. Thats real clever. I thought the point of all this was C&C servers that the ISPs refused to disconnect, not mom and pop having a zombified computer that they are unaware of?
From my experience, simply removing adobe reader and installing foxit (including browser plugins) solves the issue, since its through infected PDF autoloading that ive seen most of my client's infections.
You missed the point. We arent speaking latin, so latin rules do not apply, the english ones do. You are certainly free to mismatch your subject and verb tenses, but to try to claim it is correct is silly. Likewise you are free to give "virus" an inappropriate ending, but anyone with authority on the subject will call it incorrect.
This isnt a subjective thing, there is a right and a wrong when it comes to english syntax and word construction.
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Yes, and they're from the same people.
Not necessarily always, these are two vastly different issues.
The abortion issue is not about choice, or about freedoms, or about income levels-- it is just about whether or not the fetus is human. If it is not, the "pro-life" camp has no ground. If it is human, then those other considerations are irrelevant, because it becomes a question of "are we willing to commit infanticide". For whatever reason, people dont seem to want to be honest about what the debate is on; theyd rather come up with names like "pro-choice" and "pro-life" (are YOU against choice? or life? How dare you!) and resort to such tactics as ignoring the "is it human" question and claiming you hate freedom, or showing aborted fetuses for shock value.
The capital punishment issue is not about the same thing, we already know the guy on death row is human. Its just a question of whether any crime (and what crimes) would be most justly served by killing the person. Or, depending on your views on the justice system's purpose, whether it is a good enough deterrent for future crimes for others in society, or whether the man can be rehabilitated (both of which I think are bad ways of viewing the justice system, but whatever).
So yes, it IS possible to think that fetuses are human, and thus abortion is necessarily infanticide, while simultaneously thinking that yes, some crimes do merit the capital punishment. Im sure on the flip side you could find a "pro-choice" person who is against the death penalty, or any other combination of beliefs.... because theyre 2 separate issues.
Yes, all "conservatives" believe exactly the same on this issue. Whats wrong with "conservatives"?!
Thats a handy strawman you snuck in there.
The point of a justice system is to try to persuade them to not do stupid things any more.
See, THIS is where we start having problems. The point of a justice system is to administer justice, NOT to try to disuade crime-- thats just one of the side effects. When you start getting into this mentality "whatever is best for society" when dealing with the judicial system, you can start to go really wacky places-- why not convict an innocent man of a crime if it would be best for society (if, say, the case was sealed, his guilt can be easily faked, and it would be a good deterrent)?
That train of thought is why we have these sorts of issues-- someone is convicted of a crime, pays the penalty, and then on TOP of that has the rest of his life basically ruined. Is it justice? No, but thats irrelevant!! What we're doing is good for society!
If the law is ineffective, then its no good pointing to the data and saying "but the statistics show that X is bad!" If the law is unenforcable, that is worse than nothing at all as it just increases the complexity of the law in general and causes contempt for it.
You have to take your eyes off the road completely and focus most of your attention on entering your text message.
I get the arguments against texting, but making false claims isnt really helpful to the discussion. There is such a thing as touch typing, and it is possible to do with a mobile phone. I can write a fairly lengthy email to someone on my blackberry as I walk down the street only glancing down once at the end to make sure there were no glaring typos; usually there are none.
you have a chance to say it wasn't reckless because you're a just that good at driving or a variety of other subjective excuses. This can eat up court time etc.
That excuse actually WORKS?? What state are YOU in?
I've never really gotten that handsfree kits reduce the distraction, is the idea that you're waving your phone around and looking at it as you talk? Or possibly they just passed the law so that it LOOKS like fewer people are on the phone and everyone is happy?
Theres already a law about paying attention while driving, that seems to cover the "texting but not reckless" scenario.
TBQH, if its Mr. Smith's kid, and the kid can pass all the state exams, why is it any of your concern WHAT he teaches him?
I would not trust such a system like homeschooling to objectively and effectively educate most children.
Right, its not like the kids have to pass any tests or meet any guidelines when being homeschooled.....
Relying on parents is an invitation for indoctrination and intellectual inbreeding.
Because NONE of that happens in public schools, right? And are you seriously suggesting that homeschooling cant be competitive with public schools? I remember in High school I had a couple of excellent teachers, but there were also several that were pretty bad. Aside from all that, having the parent actually take a direct role in the kids life (as opposed to basically letting the school system raise the kid) is definitely a good thing.
You tried switching search providers in IE? Compare that to firefox, where its quite literally 4 clicks to change it (think its like 9 or 10 in IE).
Quiet you, people are busy hating on firefox for no reason except that its cool now. Dont spoil the fun.
Hasnt it LONG been recommended you NOT do that because of the major security issues with that? Im no JS whiz, but cant JS on a page sniff the address bar? Wouldnt that mean an ad on the page could sniff that data out?
. Recently though, despite all the releases and the announcements on brand new 10x-faster JavaScript interpreters I find it's bogging down to an almost unusable level.
Wait, what browser do you use that seems so much faster? Certainly not Opera, what with its awful JS performance (tho the beta is slick). Try using an old version of firefox sometime and tell me whether its faster, or whether it just crawls on modern JS heavy pages.
Any chance its the fault of A) your background apps, B) your plugins (ie flash), C) the webpages you visit, or D) a faulty memory?
Once upon a time there used to be configuration to permit or deny javascript to run - now this is split into 12 different parameters, 7 of which are hidden behind the about:config screen
Actually, the multiple javascript options were there back in Firefox 1.0, and were later stripped out, and after public outcry, re-added.
Do you expect 'backspace' to go 'backwards' in your browsing history? .... for no understandable reason they decided that the Linux Firefox should do nothing upon pressing backspace,
Has it occured to you this is an Ubuntu setting, not linux in general? A quick google (and my memory) tells me that fedora for example has no such issue.
Yeh, privacy, HUH?
Are you implying firefox sends that data somewhere? Try doing the same thing with IE, and then running strings on index.dat (all 8 of them). Have you done similar testing on chrome, or opera? Or do you just assume theyre all perfect on removing all traces of history from every file they own?
Didnt you see that interview from several months back? I think Conroy made the comment "you dont know the things that are out there, you cant trust parents to keep their kids safe" (I cant find the exact link, but it was on a BBC interview). That pretty much sums up whats happening here, government wants to raise your kids for you.
What we have in the USA, today, is fascism: corporations running the government and writing our laws
Even were your assertion that corporations run the government true, thats NOT what fascism is. Not a political buff here but that almost seems like the reverse of fascism; dont fascist governments sieze control of production and industry, not the other way around?
And being I'm a Pro-Choice kind of guy, I find Obama's taking away of my choices ("buy healthcare or be fined!") to be objectionable.
How do you think pro-life folks feel, as they find abortion morally objectionable (to put it lightly), and are being forced to pay for something they find abhorrent?
Thats true, but unlike communism, abstinence also works as a preventative in the real world as well. Getting everyone to abstain may be a problem, but that doesnt diminish its effectiveness.
Incidentally, could part of the problem be the attitude seen above, with one poster ridiculing another over the suggestion of abstinence? And people wonder why its such a problem getting the average kid to abstain?
So you think its a good idea for the LAWYERS to have to make that "guilty, not guilty" decision, and to hell with a mans right to have his case heard?
"Right to a fair trial" means PRECISELY that it should only be a jury making the decision on the merits of a plaintiffs claims, not the cops, not bystanders, and not lawyers. A lawyers job is to make sure that those rights are given.
Quoting from that chart....
Each country lists 6 contributing factors, share of malicious computer activity, malicious code rank, spam zombies rank, phishing web site hosts rank, bot rank and attack origin, to substantiate its cybercrime ranking.
So in otherwords being a victim-- having a hijacked computer-- gets you ranked up on that chart. Thats real clever. I thought the point of all this was C&C servers that the ISPs refused to disconnect, not mom and pop having a zombified computer that they are unaware of?
The FSF can certainly provide a legal team for the contributors.
AFAIK CPU cache isnt used for data, and I dont think youd want to do that regardless.
How much swap space are we talking exactly?
From my experience, simply removing adobe reader and installing foxit (including browser plugins) solves the issue, since its through infected PDF autoloading that ive seen most of my client's infections.
You missed the point. We arent speaking latin, so latin rules do not apply, the english ones do. You are certainly free to mismatch your subject and verb tenses, but to try to claim it is correct is silly. Likewise you are free to give "virus" an inappropriate ending, but anyone with authority on the subject will call it incorrect.
This isnt a subjective thing, there is a right and a wrong when it comes to english syntax and word construction.