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Gonorrhea As the Next Superbug
WrongSizeGlass writes "Reuters is reporting that Gonorrhea risks becoming a superbug: 'The sexually transmitted disease gonorrhea risks becoming a drug-resistant "superbug" if doctors do not devise new ways of treating it, a leading sexual health expert said.'"
I've got the cure!
It's called a condom and not screwing nasty hoes!
Gonorrhea? I thought we had that one licked.
Thank god we all agree that teaching adolescent kids about condoms is a good idea, or this could get really become a big problem.
You are welcome on my lawn.
No one on slashdot will ever be exposed.
For the Claps big return
Attention... all grammer nazi"s! Is they're anything; wrong with: my post,
I can't really decide, here.
On the one hand, if you're playing around without wearing a condom, then you're a Darwin Award. On the other hand, this could be exceptionally nasty in third world nations, especially in places where condoms aren't available or expensive. Now it's Nature's Reset Button. And if the people are listening to a religious restriction, saying condom use is against their faith, now we're back to the Darwin angle.
Either way, you're screwed.
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Perhaps in the eyes of the overlords, or perhaps evolution, STDs are a "feature not a bug" situation, a form population control. Reducing numbers through the attempt to increase numbers. I wonder if we should start including a Trojan constant in our population growth and decay models. Combined with the social network clusterfuck, perhaps we need a digital vaccine. Hope your not allergic to PCillin.
While on this line of thought, I would liken using Norton to wearing 8 condoms, all which having been poked with a needle, and Spybot Search & Destroy being the "Pull-Out" contraceptive method, and disconnecting from the internet altogether being like a hysterectomy. Unfortunately, we can't forget Live OneCare, which is like wrapping it with toilet paper, drinking a fifth of tequila, taking two viagras, and then wandering around Mexico City.
What was my point again?
'We are trying to prove ourselves wrong as quickly as possible, because only in that way can we find progress.' RPF
your pecker in your pocket. No worries about broken or slipped condoms, or being overcome by the moment and not using one.
Of course, mentioning this to young, self-righteous members of an incredibly hedonistic and narcissistic society is akin to pissing into the wind, so I fully expect to get modded into oblivion.
"I don't know, therefore Aliens" Wafflebox1
Howsabout people stop having unprotected sex with people with gonorrhea? I realize that people may lie about not having it or something similar, but one's policy should be use a rubber unless one is very, very certain it's safe.
People have been and, as long as there is goatse.cx, will continue to be exposed on slashdot.
Oh, yeah, it's not easy to pad these out to 120 characters.
Not only are you dull, but you are an idiot too. It does not take doing a ho to get it. This is no different than HIV. IOW, it is not who you screw, but who the person 5 removed from you that had it and passed it on. And as to you knowing whether you have it or not, I seriously doubt that you have a clue.
Clearly, the geeks shall inherit the Earth.
Cure: Post on slashdot and never have contact with those pesky disease carrying ladies
Where were you when I had mod points? ... that's not such a good question, is it.
Stupid people should die. But if that were true, Fox News would be out of business, wouldn't it?
Besides, it's not my job to demand people die. Are you saying that you want people to die just so you don't have to pay the same goddamn premiums you already pay for private healthcare?
...I can't possibly be the only one who has wished people "Happy VD!" on Valentine's Day :D
hehe
Here is a take on your intellect: You are a fucking retard. Here is the same situation, without health care.
Some asshole sleeps around without a condom, and because they do not have health care, they do not get it treated and spread it to more people, one of whom is your mom.
or
Some asshole sleeps around without a condom, gets gonorrhea, and starts taking antibiotics without medical consultation and so on and so forth until the disease becomes drug-resistant AS THE ARTICLE IS DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW.
or
Some asshole gets a physical at the doctor, finds out about the consequences of having sex without a condom and sees some lovely pictures of herpes/chlamydia/gonorrhea and the asshole starts using a condom from then on and the spread of disease is stopped at a lower cost to society than having X amount of people needing treatment for STIs.
Grow the fuck up, biology and disease prevention have nothing to do with politics.
My kingdom for a donkey!
When I was a sexually active youth (back in the 60's and 70's) I managed to get the clap at least 3 times. The first time, I was in Mexico. I went to the pharmacy and got a lot of oral penicillin. Dosed myself with a couple of million units a day for a week or two. Bingo - cured. The next time, I was in the US and went to my family doctor. He prescribed some new "stronger" antibiotic for it. Guess what - it didn't work! I went back to the massive "beat it to death" penicillin doses and cured it post haste. The last time I got it, I went to the P-cure again. Two weeks, gone.
Frankly, I don't think most doctors know what they are doing when it comes to dealing with this cruft. They are the reason why we are getting these "super bugs". It's a matter of "try a little of this, and if that doesn't work, try a little of that". As a result, both "this" and "that" make the little buggers stronger. My philosophy when it comes to infections - hit them hard and don't let up until they are dead, dead, dead!
How is this news for nerds?
Being nerd protects me quite well from such diseases. Is this some sort of appeal from non-nerds for our help?
at least those our future kings gots their priority sorted
Clearly the answer is to convert Humanity from a Sexual Species that reproduces via Sexual Mating, to one that is Asexual and reproduces via Asexual technology assisted Cloning.
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It was the first condom given me. And the first beer I had was given me and I put it up on the wall next to my few trophies where it sat for 4 years: until one fateful day, I opened that keystone light and condom together.
What resulted was a yeast infection, for which I blame that goddamn Ameri-can!
And that condome was useless.
Abstinate to the core, Semper Fi!
What I saw in this article summary when I refreshed the front page:
* 69 comments
I thought this might be a joke...then I remembered I was on /.
my fail in responding in time.... my response is meant for the asshole that supports socialism "" AS THE ARTICLE IS DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW."" --that
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Besides, it's not my job to demand people die. Are you saying that you want people to die just so you don't have to pay the same goddamn premiums you already pay for private healthcare?
nice fallacies there.
That was true before the healthcare bill passed. Some asshole that sleeps around without a condom and without insurance could just go to the emergency room, get treated, and the taxpayers have to pay for it. Now that same asshole is required to pay their way or pay a fine. That sounds fair to me.
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it's not good enough that we've trashed the planet and are taking it away from future generations, now we're going to take antibiotics (and soon anti-virals) away from them too.
why do we hate our children ?
Absolute statements are never true
The Surgeon General has recommended joining Slashdot as a preventative measure. Studies have shown it's more affective than condoms at preventing sexually transmitted diseases.
1.
wikipedia:
break or slip due to latex degradation (typically from usage past the expiration date, improper storage, or exposure to oils)
it was probably expired, too drunk to read it
2. you were drunk, you probably did other stuff...
3. you said you carried it, heat from your body can also degrade it, it not reccommend to have in like a wallet for extend periods
4. it was 4 freaking years old
you did basically everything wrong
Some asshole sleeps around without a condom, gets gonorrhea, and starts taking antibiotics without medical consultation and so on and so forth until the disease becomes drug-resistant AS THE ARTICLE IS DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW.
God people need to think. For everyone in the world professing that they believe in evolution, no one understands survival of the fittest.
If a bacteria resists a drug, it was ALREADY resistant. Viruses and bacteria don't BECOME immune by you taking a drug that doesn't work. The mutation happens regardless of what drug you took, and all you're doing is killing off the rest of the bacteria. There will be immune strains regardless of how drugs are used. The objection to using anti biotics willy nilly has to do with killing the good bacteria in your system, allowing bacteria that are normally not an issue to over populate, causing them to become an issue.
A few weeks back Slashdot ran a story about MRSA and other 'superbugs' being fought in (I believe it was) Finland.
The cool thing about it is, for at least a decade they've been using the same level of sanitation as 50 years ago: steam-cleaning the floors and walls, not using HAND SANITIZER all the time, and letting the place remain a bit "dirtier" than our own hospitals. THEY HAVE THE LOWEST NUMBER OF SUCH CASES.
It makes sense; let the lesser-bugs go, kill with dumber, more-trusted ways that kill ALL the bugs or none at all, and the superbugs have to mate with lesser-bugs. This bleeds out the specialty features.
Meanwhile, everytime someone shakes hands in America, they hit it again with the sanitizer. It's just a never-ending "Germ Olympics" where only the strongest survive.
We really need to consider 'alternative' means like this, and I think you've hit the penis on the head! :>
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Wrong. Antibiotics are there to kill off all the non-resistant strains until the amount of bacteria low enough so the immune system can take care of the rest, this way preventing that the resistant strains survive.
If an antibiotic treatment suddenly stops before all non-resistant strains were killed, the resistant strains survive and multiply and soon become dominant strains.
"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever" -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap
Noone on here has anything to worry about!! It is an STD.
I thought I clarified that I meant taking antibiotics incorrectly, but I was wrong.
The number one cause of antibiotic resistant diseases is self-treatment, ending the antibiotic regimen when the symptoms disappear, as opposed to when the contagions have been eliminated. This is most prevalent in third-world countries where drugs are plentiful but medical professionals are scarce, like Russia, Africa and some South American countries.
dunkelfalke basically explained the details of why this happens.
My kingdom for a donkey!
Like when some asshole starts a war and we get to pay for it?
~S
If you have gonorrhea long enough it can cause sterility. I think if it becomes resistant to antibiotics, this is nature's way of telling us "hey, it's ok to have lots of sex because you can't get anyone pregnant now." You get it, they can't cure it for a while so you live with it till they come up with a new cure, in the meantime you became sterile. Thanks, mother nature!
There's also the Navy way, and my way. They do things my way, we'll get along.
Not everything. She didn't explain the joke.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
No, the *map* showed China as country with *universal* healthcare.
I suspect they aren't trying to cure it of anything, so that'd be a social/political problem rather than a problem with the medical system.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
"Reuters is reporting that Gonorrhea risks becoming a superbug"
Why would gonorrhea risk doing that? It must be a very good reason for it to undertake such a risk. Now if it were 'at risk of', TFA would make sense.
Yeah it's a cheap shot. But for fuck sake, Reuters?
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
A drug resistant germ can produce a hula hoop shaped thingy called a plasmid.
For the purpose of this discussion, call it a floppy.
The drug resistant germ passes the code to deal with the antibiotic to its peers which become drug resistant.
Of all places, the conference met in MANILA, for crying out loud. Wonder how many participants came home with their nice personal version of the claps. "Look, mommie, without hands !"
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Don't fuck with gonorrhea!
"Blah blah blah." - [citation needed]
When I was at the Natural Food store the other day, I noticed a probiotic in the refridgerator display called femdophilus. This product has two strains of lactic acid-producing bacteria that are well suited to colonizing the vagina.
Here's another one: http://www.gynophilus.ca/
I have an anecdote about conventional medical thought on bacteria, fungi, and the vagina. I took a late trip home a few months back, and Loveline came on the radio. I listened fairly regularly a long time ago, so I 'tuned in' for old times' sake.
One caller asked Dr. Drew what he could do about his new girlfriend's horrible vaginal odor. Dr. Drew & Crew were like, "what can you do? Bacterial Vaginosis is hard to treat. Don't say anything."
A later caller wanted to know what she could do about recurrent yeast infections. She'd tried any number of pharmaceutical anti-fungal medications, but the yeast didn't give up.
Knowing a bit about so-called "alternative" medical technology, I picked up the cell phone and called. While I was on hold, another caller came on to say that she had good luck with dealing with teh yeast by using only polyester underwear.
I asked Dr. Drew if it was safe to use yogurt in the vagina. He was like, "sure, but why bother? It's not going to help. These people have tried the most powerful antifungals available, and still have problems. What can yogurt do that drugs cannot?" (this was his sentiment, if not the exact wording).
While Yogurt is a sub-optimal probiotic solution, at least it's getting to the root of the problem. Yeast infections and bacterial vaginosis are caused when "bad" bacterial and fungi are able to establish themselves. No matter how many of these "bad" bacteria/fungi the antibiotic/antifungal is able to take out (99.9999% is not enough), the survivors will be able to quickly reestablish themselves once the pills are stopped.
In alternative medical thinking, "good" bacteria are used to coat the digestive system / skin / vagina with a protective film. When "bad" bacteria come along, there's no room available, so they can't establish a colony.
I don't know if there's been any research about probiotics & gonorrhea. But it'd be an interesting study...
here's an article about probiotics & Urinary tract infections: Specific probiotic strains are effective for genitourinary infections, Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, Nov, 2006 by Alan R. Gaby
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They won't be the same premiums. Taxes are going up to pay for it. Whether you deny it or not, taxes are still essentially a premium because they are going towards paying for the healtcare. Besides, healthcare isn't a right. It never was and should not be now. Nuff said.
Why is this story tagged as "cancer"?
That's what happens when product released to the masses. It becomes the super product.
...but it does have other fringe benefits.
If this does turn out to be another pandemic, there's a very simple vaccine for it, kids. Keep your pants on. ;)
You don't know women very well. Your method only verifys she was clean several days ago, when she was all hot and bothered and you turned her down.
This is like going to your bank, walk into the vault, check your money is there and then be happy your money is safe... lets see who is clever enough to spot the problem.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
You're forgetting the part where insurance companies tend to be on the same side as you, at least theoretically: no person, however insured, /wants/ to be ill.
Religion is what happens when nature strikes and groupthink goes wrong.
Speaking as one who regularly succumbs to propositions from strange attractive sexually promiscuous women...
Yes, they would have to be pretty strange, wouldn't they. ;)
Come on, I couldn't let that one pass.
And I apologize for calling your mom strange.
Bam, two for one.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Check uro biofon. It works great for me: http://www.biofon.ru/eng/uro/simptoms.shtml
...people who stay faithful to one partner, use proper contraception & have enough responsibility to not inflict more screaming brats on the social support system won't get it and therefore won't die of it.
So where's the problem? Natural Selection in action, folks...
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I'll never get it. My username explains.
"don't have sex with people that you don't know are clean (i.e. STD test) and always practice safe sex"
Well, technically if you wear a condom, you don't give a damn about what bugs might be on the other side of the latex barrier, as long as there's the latex barrier between you and them.
The whole point of condoms (I mean, beside contraception) is to create a physical barrier to stop the spreading of disease.
It's perfectly safe to have sex with a HIV or Gnorrhea (or Chlamydiae, or Syphilis, etc.) -infected person, as long as your wear proper protection. You won't catch them while properly wearing a condom.
(well at least not during the screwing-while-wearing-condom. Now, if you do other stupid stuff, or don't wear the condom properly...)
The better formulation would be :
- always practice safe sex and wear proper protection
- unless both partner a proven clean (with proper testing) and trust enough each other so one will admit a risk of contamination in case of cheating.
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or the tests will show up positive for something and you're glad you found before stuff started to fall off/rot your brain/etc.
or : ...and you just keep using a condom properly just like before the result came.
The reason sexual education is insisting on using condoms it that not only do they prevent unwanted pregnancies (like any other contraception method), but the latex will be a physical barrier between you and the (untested) bugs which might be on the other side of it. As long as the condom is properly used and no other stupid stuff is done aside, the risks tends toward zero.
The golden rule is : do whatever both of you want (consensually) but : ALWAYS WEAR LATEX while doing it. Unless both partners are properly tested clean and trust enough each other so one will admit if a risk arise due to cheating.
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Sorry but what marriage has to do with it ?
Marriage is not a 100% guarantee that the other person will never ever happen to cheat and be at risk at bringing some nasty bug home.
You may make romantic promises of trust and fidelity on the "Big Day", but we're still animals with deeply rooted instincts and you can't guarantee that nothing will ever go wrong over the course of a whole life.
Doing tests for both (non necessarily married/engaged) partners, trusting enough each other that a partner will openly admit cheating and potential risks of bringing bugs home, that is a slightly more efficient strategy.
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I told my Doctor that my wife gave me gonorrhea. He gave himself a shot!
One more reason to continue lobbying for more funds and grants into research on human cloning !
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My philosophy when it comes to infections - hit them hard and don't let up until they are dead, dead, dead!
Technically, the proper medical procedure is, indeed :
- to use the lowest powerful antibiotic (if penicillin works, use it, damn !) and only if needed (most cold are caused by viruses and don't need any)
- make it really, really, really clear to the patient, that he/she had to take the antibiotics all the way until the end of the cure, until all the bacteria are clearly and definitely dead. And not stop abruptly as soon as he/she feels better.
That slows down the evolution of super-bugs.
(and in addition to what you said :
- most antibiotics kill all bacteria indiscriminately, not only bugs, but the normal flora : which perturbs some normal function and leave the place free for bad yeast to rush in. So always explain to the patient which food contain good probiotics to compensate (like some yogurts) and prescribe some probiotics too (usually some good yeast) )
That's what we're taught in our medical education.
The only problems comes into getting the correct choice of the lowest denomination antibiotics.
- On one hand, hospitals have proven and tested recommendation (based on tests against resistance, etc.) And might even have some quick tests to predict resistance (so even when super bugs become prevalent, you can still detect which don't need the super-drug).
- On the other hand, pharmaceutical companies have an agenda to push for newer (and still patented) drugs.
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Well I for one welcome our new gonorrhean overlords...
It requires copulation, to be infected. /. is immune to this transmission vector.
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A guy catches a STD. He goes to MD and doc prescribes him "yogurt therapy" - he is to dip his dick into yogurt for 15 minutes twice a day and additionally, after every sexual intercourse. One day, he does a prostitute. After they are done, he sits on the edge of bed, pours a glass of yogurt and starts his procedure. She looks in disbelief and says: "You learn something new each day. I've been in the business for ten years and I find out just now that it's refilled like a fountain pen!"
Hope not. :P
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Sweet. I can just continue not getting laid.
some asshole sleeps around without a condom, and you are the one responsible for his health bill.
Ah yes. Or some asshole sleeps around without a condom, infects his unsuspecting wife, and then dies in a car crash, leaving his widow to choose between treating her illness or paying for her child's education. . . but hey, the slut had it coming, right?
I think the poster was referring more to an infected person obtaining antibiotics without seeing a doctor. Some antibiotics work better than others with certain varieties, as well as the patient's medical history (i.e. "Allergic to penicillin? Okay, then nothing in that family...") Obtaining, as in, ordering off the net, or using someone else's prescription. Or for an unrelated condition.
As well as infected persons obtaining probiotics to try to treat an infection that has moved from site of infection to further within the body. If the bacteria has infected further internal structures, then external application of probiotics is not going to make a positive difference in the progression, and will only lead to further delay in effective treatment being sought, in turn heightening the probability of affecting sexual reproduction and function down the road.
Also, if you RTFA, you would realize that the current strategy for dealing with Gonorrhea is a single dose of an antibiotic. The bacteria is adapting to that, resulting in some prescriptions extending beyond the single dose, as well as finding that it is resisting treatment by multiple antibiotics. Treatment with the wrong antibiotic may lead to a cease in the growth of bacteria -- but once the course of antibiotics is up, it blooms up again more rampant - whereas correct antibiotic should kill it off completely...
Slashdot is supposed to be news FOR nerds. Like anyone here is at risk of getting Gonhorrhea...
biology and disease prevention have nothing to do with politics.
Until people politicize it - as happened with AIDS. Had AIDS been treated in a manner similar to leprosy, the cost in lives and resources would have been much lower, but we would have had to force people to do something against their will. The AIDS rights activists who demanded political action instead of allowing the medical community to act have blood on their hands.
The US government have made it clear that we have no inalienable rights; any we do not defend vigorously will be taken.
Viruses and bacteria are not magical being that can cross walls.
If you use a condom and itis in one piece you will not get STIs Period really.
You saying it is not so is frankly pointless since you are claiming something extraordinary and against common sense without citing a single shred of evidence.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Proper education should be completely neutral about the matter.
Proper education should present all the options available with pros and cons and then people will make their own choices.
Education taking sides on social or moral debates is not education, is indoctrination, which is why religious educations should be segregated from public rational one.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
So one has to wonder why people keep giving it any credence.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Actually it's possible to get some STDs by skin contact (specifically, hepatitis somethingorother) or even contact with, say, a toilet seat (hopefully someone with medical knowledge can chime in with the details). I know this because a few years ago while discussing STDs during a routine checkup, my doctor decided to tell me this rather than discussing the dangers of acquiring STDs by conventional means. (FML?)
But anyways, can you imagine how much it would suck to get an STD with little to no human contact, never mind actually getting laid? 8(
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At the end, the Catholic Church no longer has any moral authority to lead in matters related to sexuality, the recent worldwide debacle regarding paedophile priests and the Church's attempt to brush this under the carpet is enough to allow them any moral authority.
On top of that, any other priests without such sick proclivities have absolutely no experience about how human sexuality works (they are celibate), so again, they know nothing about human sexuality for the simple fact that they have foregone to practice it.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Bah, just ignore this guy, it worked for all the other people talking about this "Superbug" nonsense.
"Most people, I think, don't even know what a rootkit is, so why should they care about it?"
Many low time priests issued empty threats against people they didn't agree with.
Excommunication can only be dished by people very high up in the Catholic hierarchy: bishops and up I think, and never without the consent of the Vatican I believe.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
Stupid people should die.
They do, every single one of them.
So do smart people.
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The reason abstinence is taught in schools is because it *reduces* the sexual activity of teenagers. Even the authors of such programs realize there will be those at the ends of the bell curve for which no amount of education will keep them out of trouble. Even if you teach kids to use condoms, there will inevitably be some who just don't get the message, or are too stupid (or incautious) to use one. The difference between teaching condom use and abstinence lies in what happens to the majority: with condoms, most end up having more sex; with abstinence, much less sex. Studies have shown (and I really wish I had a link now) that teaching condom use results in *more* unprotected sex than teaching abstinence, simply because of the proliferation of sexual activity and the frequency with which teenagers find themselves without a condom.
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Sorry, but you are mistaken. I do not remember which ones they are, but there are several STD's that can be transmitted even if the male is wearing a condom and it works as designed.
This information tends to come from people who lump together "anything which might be catched during a sexual intercourse" into the STD category.
Any "normal" disease, which doesn't transit through semen/vaginal secretion, but transit by other means, can be transmitted during a sexual intercourse with a condom, too.
That includes lice, other parasites, infectious skin diseases, non sexually transmitted hepatitis, etc.
(And could also include common cold and gastroenteritis as other bugs which could potentially jump between sexual partners although not strictly a STD. Strangely enough the people only complain about the previous disgusting disease and not about these ones)
All of them could also be caught while successfully practising abstention during non sexual contact. And some like lice and other parasites, being small animals (or being able to survive in the water system for gastroenteritis), could even be transmitted without any contact.
I wasn't referring to them, I was specifically referring to classic STD : bugs which ride the secretions of male and female genitalia to jump across partner during the sexual act.
For the true STD diseases, what I said and what is said in the "Untrue" post remain true :
bacteria and viruses cannot magically jump acros a physical wall.
If no sperm nor menstrual blood or other vaginal secretion (depending of sex of the partner) reaches you, you're perfectly safe from HIV, Ghono, Chlam, Syph, and the bloodborne subtypes of Hepatitis.
Of course you're not protected from a lice jumping to you, or catching a cold (even if you used a condom properly, even if you didn't have sex).
But that's beyond the theme of TFA and this thread's subject (are "nasty ho" dangerous in term of STDs ?)
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Condoms break and or slip off.
Quoting my self :
or don't wear the condom properly...
A properly used condom doesn't fail.
If the condom breaks or slips, it wasn't used propely.
Condom should :
- be of adequate size (just stop buying XXL condoms to pretend that you have a ginormous dick. The size doesn't even play a role, beyond discomfort)
- be checked for expiry date on package
- be checked for breakage of package
- be kept in a proper container (solid, shields direct light)
[And all of the above can be performed "off-line" in case you complain that it kills the romanticism of spontaneity]
- package opened only with finger (no scissors or whatever)
- be unrolled on an *fully erect* penis only (if the pee-pee isn't ready do more foreplay or switch to another method which doesn't require a condom).
- DO NOT stack them (the joke "layering 2 condoms" is exactly that : a joke. Condom are designed to rub against wet mucous membranes. Not to rub latex-against-latex. That damages them)
- DO USE ONLY a water lubricant. Or just do more foreplays. Do not use a fat one like vaseline (that make the latex porous).
If used so a condom never fails. Never failed me for the hundreds of time I've used them so. Nor my friends.
Also, how about oral sex?
Quoting my self :
well at least not during the screwing-while-wearing-condom. Now, if you do other stupid stuff
The discussion was about putting your pee-pee into a "nasty ho'". And I still maintain that a correctly used condom protects in that case.
Of course, if you still managed to get into contact of semen/menstrual blood by doing other games, the fact that you wore a condom specifically during the "screwing" part, won't protect you.
Now notice by the way that, according to current knowledge, the risks are dramatically low, specially in case of receiving male or giver-to-female.
Though hey, 80% of the population has an oral HSV1 infection, and now she does too.
Sorry, but you did not do the research. To quote wikipedia :
HSV-1 is usually acquired orally during childhood , but may also be sexually transmitted
80% of the population doesn't get HSV-1 because it's an STD, 80% simply get it because it's transmitted through saliva and kids tend to lick anything.
Only in a few border case it goes another route
(- you need one non-infected person performing oral sex to someone with genital HSV-1 exactly at the moment it is active.
- And that person in turn need to have it because she was uninfected and received oral sex from someone with an oral HSV-1 at the exact moment it was active).
The herpes you where thinking about when trying to sound terrifying is the HSV-2. (Which is probably what she got). But the oral form of that one is much less common.
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Yeah you might as well bring up an IE8 vulnerability at an Amish town hall meeting.
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In the case of STI's you give the RIGHT antibiotic the first time (which is why it's useful to carry one of these in your pocket).
And usually in such hospital recommendation, the recommended drug is the one which (according to current research and statistics) is the least powerful, but still manages to kill all the bugs.
You don't jump immediately to the latest glycopeptidic atb (well, unless a PCR test result told you so).
That's what I was trying to refer to.
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