Rather than forcing rehabilitation on prisoners, what about giving them a choice to participate in rehabilitation programs?
I would be less opposed to it, except that A) im pretty certain it would end up mandatory (slippery slopes are real), and B) it seems to undermine a system based on justice if someone can choose to get out of justice.
Im all for providing resources during incarceration to allow people to get their act together, but I dont think its healthy to ever lose sight of the fact that their incarceration is, first and foremost, punitive.
The "freedom to be forgotten" is a fancy way of mandating revisionistic censorship. If something happens, it absolutely should be out there. Or, to quote a fictional book character, "truth is generally preferable to lies".
I find it nothing short of absurd that someone can be gagged from talking about Trifigura's crimes over a libel suit, forbidden from talking about someones past felonies or bankruptcies due to a "right to be forgotten", shut down on your website for providing default router passwords because of "security concerns" in Germany, and arrested in the UK for tweeting something that offends someone else.
For all the flaws we have over here, at least we can say fairly nasty things about our president and not worry about the jackboots kicking down our door and declaring our mode of thought as "undesirable".
It just bugs the heck out of me when I see countries going down a terrible path regarding speech, start recommending we ditch this and that amendment because then we'd be more like Europe. Sometimes the anti-american sentiment on the internet is palpable.
According to the results in the Microsoft forum,
* Its not an official method-- nor is really supported (the mods recommend you ask for it in feedback tho!)
* Its pretty roundabout,... and..
* It doesnt actually fully work-- all imported events become read only and uneditable. You have to modify each event in the source calendar prior to export.
Gee, that sure is a lot more open than Google's "download archive" button.
Because you can break a single high-rez panel down into multiple smaller screens, but cannot stitch smaller panels up into a larger one? Manufacturing creates defects, and the larger the screen the greater the waste if a screen has a defect.
If you're coming from Europe, you have your share of legal problems. Let me know when you figure out what "free speech" is, and why allowing revisionist censorship (sorry-- "right to be forgotten") is a terrible idea.
Im running cyanogenmod with Play services. Theres a cryptographically-signed zip file you install which provides the services. I believe the restriction is on distributing it as a whole, and/or based on the fact that Cyanogenmod ISNT signed.
The restriction on android, AFAIK, is that you cant label a phone as "Android by Google' or anything like that without signing onto their program.
Restrictions on hardware dont bother me: theyre attempting to make it reasonable to create apps. Compromises over screen size are hardly an indication of being "less open"; im not even sure what "evil" spin you could put on that.
I just get upset when geeks insist on shooting themselves in the foot by decrying the only major internet company that actually FIGHTS requests for data from the government.
But hey if you want to run crying to Microsoft (who reports Skype calls to Chinese authorities) or Yahoo (who outs dissident bloggers in China), go right ahead. Myself, Id rather stick with the camp who actually has some degree of integrity. Have fun with whoever else you choose, and dont come crying to me when you end up in trouble with an authoritarian regime because of it.
Im arguing that turning criminals into medical patients is a terrible idea that would result in pretty nightmarish systems, whether they looked like 1984 or like Clockwork orange, yes.
At the end of the day I dont see how its appropriate for the state to attempt to "fix" individuals, rather than simply meting out punishment when people violate society's rules. I also dont see how you can avoid a massive moral hazard with the state determining what modes of thought are "normative"; we would end up with a single party system.
US is number 2: how can that be explained? If you look, its dominated by the Rustock botnet, which is operated from..... McColo, in Russia.
Look at botnet operator country-of-origin, and time and again it is eastern europe and China.
http://www.team-cymru.org/Read... According to this report, most Botnet C&C's seem to be located in China, and / or on a.cn TLD. US features prominently mostly because dot-com is such a popular TLD, and is technically a US one-- but that hardly indicates presence in the US. Using a dot-CN domain, on the other hand, almost certainly indicates geographic location in China, which is reflected in their graphs.
EDIT: However--- I will say that here: https://www.shadowserver.org/w... Gives me pause for thought. If those stats are accurate, the US has more C&Cs than I realized.
Yea, opensourcing all of that stuff, contributing to Linux, and offering exit strategies from their ecosystem ("heres a zipfile with all of your data!") is super evil.
Looks like I was wrong-- there actually isnt a way to export from Outlook.com. You can use the Outlook client to pull everything and then create a PST, but they dont actually offer a way out without a client.
... which is getting progressively less open, as more and more things move from the OS proper to Play Services (which is both closed and heavily license encumbered.)
Utter bull. Play store is included with AOSP. THe service itself is hosted, and most certainly not a "part of the OS" (particularly as you are able to side load and install third party stores, like Amazon's).
The Blink rendering engine was forked because it was being developed by Apple with a lot of apple-specific stuff, like the Safari-only JS engine (which chrome never used), and it made zero sense to continue to be tied down. Blink does, however, remain open source, so im not clear what your beef is.
... which is a meaningless phrase, since it's just as "open" as every other functional e-mail service
No, not even remotely. Try exporting your email and contacts out of AOL or Verizon. Google has always been one of (if not THE) best in terms of getting your data out of their systems. As a general rule, they tend to actually follow standards, and when the existing standard isnt working, they tend to make a new one and release the specs.
Yea, thats super open. A PST file: a proprietary, poorly understood format that requires Outlook to pull data from. Compare to Google, where you can get a zip file of all of your data to be used with whatever you want.
It is utterly hilarious that you would mock systems of retributive justice in (apparent) favor of ones of clinical rehabilitation-- considering just how Orwellian it is to turn the justice system into a clinical one.
Has no one read 1984? Is no one concerned with just how ominous things like a justice system focused on "reconstituting" (or, perhaps, "reeducating?) would be?
. So modern prisons focus on re-constituting the citizen to full capacity. Because it works better than punishing.
Always relevant in these discussions: According to the Humanitarian theory, to punish a man because he deserves it, and as much as he deserves, is mere revenge, and, therefore, barbarous and immoral. It is maintained that the only legitimate motives for punishing are the desire to deter others by example or to mend the criminal. When this theory is combined, as frequently happens, with the belief that all crime is more or less pathological, the idea of mending tails off into that of healing or curing and punishment becomes therapeutic. Thus it appears at first sight that we have passed from the harsh and self-righteous notion of giving the wicked their deserts to the charitable and enlightened one of tending the psychologically sick.......
My contention is that this doctrine, merciful though it appears, really means that each one of us, from the moment he breaks the law, is deprived of the rights of a human being.
The reason is this. The Humanitarian theory removes from Punishment the concept of Desert. But the concept of Desert is the only connecting link between punishment and justice. It is only as deserved or undeserved that a sentence can be just or unjust. I do not here contend that the question ‘Is it deserved?’ is the only one we can reasonably ask about a punishment. We may very properly ask whether it is likely to deter others and to reform the criminal. But neither of these two last questions is a question about justice. There is no sense in talking about a ‘just deterrent’ or a ‘just cure’. We demand of a deterrent not whether it is just but whether it will deter. We demand of a cure not whether it is just but whether it succeeds. Thus when we cease to consider what the criminal deserves and consider only what will cure him or deter others, we have tacitly removed him from the sphere of justice altogether; instead of a person, a subject of rights, we now have a mere object, a patient, a ‘case’.
Making all criminals subject to a clinical internment: Im sure that couldnt possibly go wrong. Insane asylums of the early 1900s? Unit 731? Josef Mengele? Pre-emptive organ harvesting? Nah, Im sure your idea would work out fine.
You're gonna have to explain that. They currently are behind development of the most popular (And open source!) mobile OS out there, the most popular (and "mostly" open source) desktop browser out there, the most popular (in the west) search engine out there, and one of the most popular (and very open) email systems out there.
It's notable that they continue to be a voice of reason in the security world (with this being a notable exception), having given very solid reasons for why they dont do security theatre with their Chrome password store, why they use CRLSets instead of an ineffective soft-fail CRL system, their rapid switch away from AES-CBC to RC4 when BEAST came out, and so on.
Probably the worst that could be said for them recently is that they went way overboard in their attempt to make Google+ a "thing".
In a lot of ways, Google continues to be a prime example of a company that "gets it" (when its not pushing failed social networks). Theyre embracing security, encryption, mobile computing, and wearable tech (which is coming whether anyone wants it or not). Im not clear in what sense you could consider them to be "rotting".
Clearly Im wrong. Lets see, lets have an inventory of the stuff I bought last time I was over there visiting family:
* 2 Gamecube games (neither work)
* A "North face" jacket, with already-ripped pull cords, which started falling to pieces almost immediately
* Some crew socks, which also started falling apart on the first wash cycle
* A leatherman knockoff which still "works", but the pliers are of very poor quality and a very limited amount of pressure can be used with them
* Some DVDs, all of which were very clearly not pressed
* A suitcase which is, so far, holding up quite well
* Some pearls which appear to be genuine
Anyone who has been paying attention is aware of the fact that "bots" arent the same as "hackers", and that a huge number of the "hacks" are DDOSes involving bots from all over the world (including the US).
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Rather than forcing rehabilitation on prisoners, what about giving them a choice to participate in rehabilitation programs?
I would be less opposed to it, except that A) im pretty certain it would end up mandatory (slippery slopes are real), and B) it seems to undermine a system based on justice if someone can choose to get out of justice.
Im all for providing resources during incarceration to allow people to get their act together, but I dont think its healthy to ever lose sight of the fact that their incarceration is, first and foremost, punitive.
The "freedom to be forgotten" is a fancy way of mandating revisionistic censorship. If something happens, it absolutely should be out there. Or, to quote a fictional book character, "truth is generally preferable to lies".
I find it nothing short of absurd that someone can be gagged from talking about Trifigura's crimes over a libel suit, forbidden from talking about someones past felonies or bankruptcies due to a "right to be forgotten", shut down on your website for providing default router passwords because of "security concerns" in Germany, and arrested in the UK for tweeting something that offends someone else.
For all the flaws we have over here, at least we can say fairly nasty things about our president and not worry about the jackboots kicking down our door and declaring our mode of thought as "undesirable".
Solid response worth the +5 mod.
It just bugs the heck out of me when I see countries going down a terrible path regarding speech, start recommending we ditch this and that amendment because then we'd be more like Europe. Sometimes the anti-american sentiment on the internet is palpable.
According to the results in the Microsoft forum,
* Its not an official method-- nor is really supported (the mods recommend you ask for it in feedback tho!)
* Its pretty roundabout,... and..
* It doesnt actually fully work-- all imported events become read only and uneditable. You have to modify each event in the source calendar prior to export.
Gee, that sure is a lot more open than Google's "download archive" button.
However, they do oppose people's right not to be shot by a stupid gun that someone takes away from the stupid owner of said stupid gun.
Shooting someone remains illegal, so Im not clear what your beef is.
They are guaranteed the right to carry stupid guns
FTFY. The Constitution: Not just a stupid historical document.
Stop trying to backdoor around the 2nd amendment.
Because you can break a single high-rez panel down into multiple smaller screens, but cannot stitch smaller panels up into a larger one? Manufacturing creates defects, and the larger the screen the greater the waste if a screen has a defect.
If you're coming from Europe, you have your share of legal problems. Let me know when you figure out what "free speech" is, and why allowing revisionist censorship (sorry-- "right to be forgotten") is a terrible idea.
Orwell would be proud, actually.
Pretty sure that doesnt cover contacts and calendar. That just does mail.
Can you show how to export from Outlook.com? Because everything I found says you cant, except through the Outlook client and a PST export.
Im running cyanogenmod with Play services. Theres a cryptographically-signed zip file you install which provides the services. I believe the restriction is on distributing it as a whole, and /or based on the fact that Cyanogenmod ISNT signed.
The restriction on android, AFAIK, is that you cant label a phone as "Android by Google' or anything like that without signing onto their program.
Restrictions on hardware dont bother me: theyre attempting to make it reasonable to create apps. Compromises over screen size are hardly an indication of being "less open"; im not even sure what "evil" spin you could put on that.
I just get upset when geeks insist on shooting themselves in the foot by decrying the only major internet company that actually FIGHTS requests for data from the government.
But hey if you want to run crying to Microsoft (who reports Skype calls to Chinese authorities) or Yahoo (who outs dissident bloggers in China), go right ahead. Myself, Id rather stick with the camp who actually has some degree of integrity. Have fun with whoever else you choose, and dont come crying to me when you end up in trouble with an authoritarian regime because of it.
Im arguing that turning criminals into medical patients is a terrible idea that would result in pretty nightmarish systems, whether they looked like 1984 or like Clockwork orange, yes.
At the end of the day I dont see how its appropriate for the state to attempt to "fix" individuals, rather than simply meting out punishment when people violate society's rules. I also dont see how you can avoid a massive moral hazard with the state determining what modes of thought are "normative"; we would end up with a single party system.
http://www.symantec.com/threat...
US is number 2: how can that be explained? If you look, its dominated by the Rustock botnet, which is operated from..... McColo, in Russia.
Look at botnet operator country-of-origin, and time and again it is eastern europe and China.
http://www.team-cymru.org/Read... .cn TLD. US features prominently mostly because dot-com is such a popular TLD, and is technically a US one-- but that hardly indicates presence in the US. Using a dot-CN domain, on the other hand, almost certainly indicates geographic location in China, which is reflected in their graphs.
According to this report, most Botnet C&C's seem to be located in China, and / or on a
EDIT: However--- I will say that here:
https://www.shadowserver.org/w...
Gives me pause for thought. If those stats are accurate, the US has more C&Cs than I realized.
Yea, opensourcing all of that stuff, contributing to Linux, and offering exit strategies from their ecosystem ("heres a zipfile with all of your data!") is super evil.
Looks like I was wrong-- there actually isnt a way to export from Outlook.com. You can use the Outlook client to pull everything and then create a PST, but they dont actually offer a way out without a client.
The comparison is ridiculous.
... which is getting progressively less open, as more and more things move from the OS proper to Play Services (which is both closed and heavily license encumbered.)
Utter bull. Play store is included with AOSP. THe service itself is hosted, and most certainly not a "part of the OS" (particularly as you are able to side load and install third party stores, like Amazon's).
The Blink rendering engine was forked because it was being developed by Apple with a lot of apple-specific stuff, like the Safari-only JS engine (which chrome never used), and it made zero sense to continue to be tied down. Blink does, however, remain open source, so im not clear what your beef is.
... which is a meaningless phrase, since it's just as "open" as every other functional e-mail service
No, not even remotely. Try exporting your email and contacts out of AOL or Verizon. Google has always been one of (if not THE) best in terms of getting your data out of their systems. As a general rule, they tend to actually follow standards, and when the existing standard isnt working, they tend to make a new one and release the specs.
You mentioned Outlook: lets have a look at exporting data from them:
Export Outlook items to an Outlook Data File (.pst)
Yea, thats super open. A PST file: a proprietary, poorly understood format that requires Outlook to pull data from. Compare to Google, where you can get a zip file of all of your data to be used with whatever you want.
Thats disappointing. I guess PR wins over well-reasoned policy every time.
It is utterly hilarious that you would mock systems of retributive justice in (apparent) favor of ones of clinical rehabilitation-- considering just how Orwellian it is to turn the justice system into a clinical one.
Has no one read 1984? Is no one concerned with just how ominous things like a justice system focused on "reconstituting" (or, perhaps, "reeducating?) would be?
. So modern prisons focus on re-constituting the citizen to full capacity. Because it works better than punishing.
Always relevant in these discussions:
According to the Humanitarian theory, to punish a man because he deserves it, and as much as he deserves, is mere revenge, and, therefore, barbarous and immoral. It is maintained that the only legitimate motives for punishing are the desire to deter others by example or to mend the criminal. When this theory is combined, as frequently happens, with the belief that all crime is more or less pathological, the idea of mending tails off into that of healing or curing and punishment becomes therapeutic. Thus it appears at first sight that we have passed from the harsh and self-righteous notion of giving the wicked their deserts to the charitable and enlightened one of tending the psychologically sick.......
My contention is that this doctrine, merciful though it appears, really means that each one of us, from the moment he breaks the law, is deprived of the rights of a human being.
The reason is this. The Humanitarian theory removes from Punishment the concept of Desert. But the concept of Desert is the only connecting link between punishment and justice. It is only as deserved or undeserved that a sentence can be just or unjust. I do not here contend that the question ‘Is it deserved?’ is the only one we can reasonably ask about a punishment. We may very properly ask whether it is likely to deter others and to reform the criminal. But neither of these two last questions is a question about justice. There is no sense in talking about a ‘just deterrent’ or a ‘just cure’. We demand of a deterrent not whether it is just but whether it will deter. We demand of a cure not whether it is just but whether it succeeds. Thus when we cease to consider what the criminal deserves and consider only what will cure him or deter others, we have tacitly removed him from the sphere of justice altogether; instead of a person, a subject of rights, we now have a mere object, a patient, a ‘case’.
Making all criminals subject to a clinical internment: Im sure that couldnt possibly go wrong. Insane asylums of the early 1900s? Unit 731? Josef Mengele? Pre-emptive organ harvesting? Nah, Im sure your idea would work out fine.
You're going to have to explain how being behind the most popular
* Smartphone OS
* Desktop browser, and
* Search engine
Makes one incompetent. Their market share of those things isnt declining, either.
I got the impression that they were dropping XMPP because it wasnt "Google+".
I also wonder whether theyre gonna change their stance now that theyre no longer going whole-hog on G+ integration with everything.
You're gonna have to explain that. They currently are behind development of the most popular (And open source!) mobile OS out there, the most popular (and "mostly" open source) desktop browser out there, the most popular (in the west) search engine out there, and one of the most popular (and very open) email systems out there.
It's notable that they continue to be a voice of reason in the security world (with this being a notable exception), having given very solid reasons for why they dont do security theatre with their Chrome password store, why they use CRLSets instead of an ineffective soft-fail CRL system, their rapid switch away from AES-CBC to RC4 when BEAST came out, and so on.
Probably the worst that could be said for them recently is that they went way overboard in their attempt to make Google+ a "thing".
In a lot of ways, Google continues to be a prime example of a company that "gets it" (when its not pushing failed social networks). Theyre embracing security, encryption, mobile computing, and wearable tech (which is coming whether anyone wants it or not). Im not clear in what sense you could consider them to be "rotting".
Clearly Im wrong. Lets see, lets have an inventory of the stuff I bought last time I was over there visiting family:
* 2 Gamecube games (neither work)
* A "North face" jacket, with already-ripped pull cords, which started falling to pieces almost immediately
* Some crew socks, which also started falling apart on the first wash cycle
* A leatherman knockoff which still "works", but the pliers are of very poor quality and a very limited amount of pressure can be used with them
* Some DVDs, all of which were very clearly not pressed
* A suitcase which is, so far, holding up quite well
* Some pearls which appear to be genuine
2 out of 7 is not terribly good.
Anyone who has been paying attention is aware of the fact that "bots" arent the same as "hackers", and that a huge number of the "hacks" are DDOSes involving bots from all over the world (including the US).