It has PCMCIA slots.. Need network access, add it... I'm considering adding a PCMCIA soundcard and using it for MP3's in a room that doesn't have a phone or computer yet.. Right next to my bar, so I can snag drink recipes too....
Unfortunately linux doesn't support pcmcia sound cards.
The pcmcia slots in the is2630 are quite badly hacked in. They only support 3.3v cards and cannot send a reset signal to a card. Many 3.3v capable pcmcia cards work, and so far every CF card that's been tried in a pcmcia carrier works.
I've got a 10/100 nic and a 64 meg cf card in one of mine.
The concept, when it was designed by a now defunct joint venture between philips & lucent, was for it to be an "internet appliance". They only sold a few hundred phones at $600/ea.
It's a strongarm computer that sits on my coffee table, and a complete overuse of technology. But it's fun.
Most LCD monitors are probably far beyond 130% better than NTSC. No big deal. They don't call it "Never The Same Color" for nothing.
Being lower power than CCFL isn't impressive. I also would not want to buy a laptop that used a side-lighting system of any kind, be it fancy-dandy LED or CCFL, because side lighting systems simply can't illuminate the whole screen.
LED side-lights have been around a long, long, long, long, long time. They are lower voltage than ccfl or EL, but both ccfl and led draw more amps than electro-luminescent backlighting.
That being said, the reason not everything uses EL is because EL is *expensive. And sometimes it's not bright enough for the task. iPaqs appear to be CCFL side-lit, for instance, and are freakin bright. side-lighting works well on a pocket computer becaise the screen is small enough that it can be uniformly lit from the side.
LCD technology has been improving every day, getting brighter and lower power. Maybe they've figured out a way to run a lot of white LEDs on only a little power, and this may presumably save you the cost and space of implementing an inverter to drive an EL or CCFL.
But it sounds to me like the the major thing they're shooting for is cost savings. if you wanted bright on a real small screen you'd go CCFL, and if you wanted low power you'd go EL. this sounds like they've made LED side-lights better than they used to be, but I doubt they're as good as other technologies.
I'd have to see a CCFL side-lit device right next to one that's been retrofitted with one of these fancy new LED side-lights before I'd advocate it from a quality-of-experience perspective.
He doesn't say anything about even trying to run linux on it. He's managed to get QNX to give him a regular shell prompt on it, and considers that useful. QNX aint a bad OS, so, sure, that's useful.
It's too fuzzy to make out what's on that title bar, but it would be perfectly normal for the QNX gui to put a title bar on a window, wouldn't it?
And it would help if you actually read the documents for which links are provided.
What Lineo has done is paid for the right to tell customers "Yes, the Yodaiken patent is not a problem, it's been taken care of" when offering a/different/ hard-real-time linux technology, RTAI.
Lineo doesn't use, and doesn't plan to use, RTLinux. They're heavily vested in RTAI. Just got tired of customers asking "What about the Yodaiken patent?!"
You'd know that, if you'd read more than the submission.
Correction, they really only transmit atomic time, and other gobbletygook, making them simpler than i'd thought. www.trimble.com has a pretty good explanation of how GPS works.
"GPS" is a system whereby a radio *reciever (Repeat, it is a RECIEVER, not a transmitter) can decipher one-way transmissions from orbiting satelites in order to allow it to calculate it's position.
Each satelite (And by satelite i mean a big chunk of equipment up in the sky) constantly broadcasts it's position in the sky and the current atomic time. The GPS unit uses this data to perform some math, allowing it to figure out where it is in relation to the satelites.
NONE of this, alone, allows anyone, anywhere, to figure out where you are.
The Acme rental cars are equipped with both a GPS reciever and a tracking device. It's possible for a tracking device to transmit it's GPS coordinates, but not necesary. It does make things easier, admitedly.
Without the tracking device, a car rental company could just as easily use the logs from the navigation system to figure out how fast you were driving. No tracking device needed. It is incredibly poor customer relations, however, and i think hartford will soon have one less car rental agency.
I haven't read the FCC thing, but i sorta doubt that cell phones will be equipped with full blown GPS recievers. Equipping them with enough brains to allow them to triangulate their position relative to the nearest cell stations would be far easier. you don't need GPS for this, but if it can be tweaked to emit WGS-84 coordinates, it sure will make you easier to find by anyone with a GPS reciever.
Basically, you'd need to know the coordinates of the cell stations. I think most cell phones already know how far they are from each passing cell station, just a little more math and a little added software.
I think the political importance of outrage over this sort of thing is hugely disserviced by the ammount of idiotic uninformed ranting going on. Get your facts straight or shut up.
Maybe thier recent version of DRDOS will help;) (seriously-- support for legacy apps may be a good thing for some potential customers).
You're forgetting that DR-DOS belongs to Lineo, formerly Caldera Thin Clients, independent from Caldera for a few years now.
Lineo, unlike Caldera, is gaining customers instead of losing them, has made Microsoft their bitch (see the DR-DOS settlement), and wholeheartedly believes in the GPL. See http://www.lineo.com/news_events/announcements/200 1/05.03.html for their response to Microsoft's attack on the GPL.
The main thing I have encountered when using Linux on SPARC is not finding a distro that supports it but INSTALLING software. A substantial number of the applications that I have tried to install have not been ported to sparc linux, which defeats the purpose. To few developers too little time to port applications to every single platform. What is the point of running an OS that you can't find applications that will compile on it? I'd much rather use solaris on sparc for this single reason.
Whaddyamean "Port"?
tar xvzf foo.tar.gz
cd foo
./configure
make
su
make install
Almost always works for me, what's your problem? I've found very few apps that i can't get to compile on my sparc system.
OK, so maybe Corel WordPerfect for Linux and a few other big, commercial apps don't exist for sparc linux. Big deal.
Linux on Sparc is hardly being dropped. Debian supports it, Mandrake supports it, slackware supports it. "Redhat" is not the whole of linux.
Not that RedHat has completely dumped Sparc, either. They just didn't release a 7.0 or 7.1 for sparc. They didn't release a 5.0 or 5.1 either. It's just taking more time. 6.2 is still the most stable redhat version anyway.
Now, all that being said, Do you have an ss5-170? The turbosparc processor in a 170mhz SS5 is only partially supported, only in recent kernels, and is considered unstable. If you have a 170, you may be SOL. But that's just one version of one model of sparc.
2.4 does have some issues on 32-bit sparcs. It's coming along, they are working on this. 2.2 still works great.
If you have a 170, I completely understand not being able to install any linux distribution. If not, you're probably a victim of poor documentation.
I have linux running on an SS2, an LX, and an SS10 with dual SM51 cpus. Stuff still definately works.
Why write linux software when you can just use Motion ( http://motion.technolust.cx/ )?
I disagree somewhat with using "cheap" usb cameras. If you can't see what's going on in the picture, what's it worth to you?
Also, keep in mind that the appearance of surveilance is actually more important than the actual surveilance. That's why you can buy plastic boxes with LEDs on them look like cameras, and one of the reasons why security camera domes are so dark. It wouldn't hurt to make it look like you have several cameras when you really only have one.
At any rate, the threat of identifying someone as a perpetrator is more important than just having the camera there. What good does it do if they trash it again and you have blurry pictures identifying the perp as a black, asian, native american, or tan caucasian male or female, 17-40 years old?
Why does the front page have a picture of the guts of a Compaq Contura 410 series notebook on it? The fastest of those was a dx2-50, if i recall correctly.
Disclaimer: I'm an avid TiVo user. Thus, my bias is to presume that ReplayTV users are chumps / suckers / whatever. Don't take it personal.
It sounds to me like ReplayTV users have a business relationship with a company, and that this company is abusing the relationship. When that happens, unless it's someone you just can't shake like the power company, it's up to you to remedy the situation.
It sounds like, from some other posters, that they removed this "feature" some time ago. Personally i never heard of it, but I don't know anyone who uses a ReplayTV box. So, it would seem, that the situation has been resolved.
On a larger scale, the set-top appliances now coming onto the market are setting the precedent for subscription-based software to come, and so far it seems to be going well.
Sure, there will be evil out there, but the sky isn't falling.
Really? Have you ever *HEARD* the audio from an iPAQ, or are you just repeating some specs you read? It certainly sounds fine to me, but what do I know, I've only been running an HHLinux iPAQ since September...
This is a long dead thread, but, What the hell. I'll get the last word in anyhow.
Yes, I have heard the audio from an ipaq.
iPaqs are extremely common in my workplace. We aquired a case of them. Yes, a case. We have connections. And all of them are running Linux.
Several of my coworkers contribute to the handhelds.org effort. I have not only heard an ipaq play mp3s, I have heard an ipaq in a PCMCIA sleeve with a WaveLan card play mp3's off a wirelessly mounted NFS volume.
I realize most of you mundanes can't tell the difference in audio quality between your Rio, or whatever. It doesn't mean it's not there.
The SA1110 + SA1111 combination is capable of 16 bit 11khz audio. Period. Says so in the datasheet. Known fact. Not up for dispute. Just because you think it sounds great doesn't mean that it's not extremely limited.
What i'm talking about is that the audio capability you get built into a STrongArm 1110 is 11khz. This is a hardware limitation.
That's 1/4 the samples per second you would get out of a regular sound card, or out of a Rio or similar dedicated mp3 player. I don't recall if it's stereo or not. At any rate it's low grade.
No, the best way to get an iPaq is to wait for the next model.
There are some hardware limitations in the current breed that are moderately annoying, and the reason why I'm not even considering droping a wad of cash on one until the next model has been out for quite a while. It's not even a matter of saving up my pennies. I've got the money, but it would feel like a waste.
The button controller on the iPaq has a bug. You can only get events from one button at a time. This means there's no way to have button-controlled games on it.
The audio is a little more limited than it has to be. They chose to use the built-in audio capability you have when you combine an SA1110 and an SA1111 -- this is 16 bit 11khz. So, although it has all the processor oomph you need, it won't make much of an mp3 player.
I hope that, if they do come out witha new ipaq that addresses these concerns, they keep the case the same and of course the sleeve interface the same. It's a great product, with two annoying shortcomings.
The "stolen" hours you refer to are a bogeyman of the 2.0 upgrade that's been blown way out of proportion.
What TiVo SAID was that uses who have upgraded their A drive (not the B drive) will lose a portion of the space when they get 2.0 due to the way they did it. They were just giving people some fair warning.
Since upgrading the A drive is really difficult, I doubt this will affect many people.
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WE all think it would be great as a wire eliminator, but unfortunately Ericsson doesn't want it to be used for that, won't talk to anyone who does, and it's their baby.
Ericsson's only application so far is advertisng. That's right, you're walking down the street, you pass a Coke machine, your cell phone goes 'blip blip!' and a text message asks you if you're thirsty. You're walking through the mall, you pass Victoria's Secret, your cell phone goes 'blip blip!' and informs you that thong underwear is half off. You're crusing down the freeway, you pass a billboard and . . . you get the idea. And they literally want it to go "blip blip" - go look at http://www.ericsson.com/blip .
Do YOU want your cell phone going "blip blip" and offering you advertisments two thousand times a day?
And they SAY it only costs $5 per unit in quantity, but since nobody is manufacturing anything in quantity, the cost is right on par with 802.11b at the moment.
I used to just think that Jon Katz was no more coherent than the average journalist. I didn't think he was a putz, just a journalist. Never mistake eloquence for intelegence.
Now, I see what everybody else has been seeing. Jon Katz is a putz.
A digital revolution? faith in it? goals fer cryin out loud? Pass the bong, man.
So they're saying that if you can predict the port number that will be assigned to a session, you can hijack it?
Hello? When was this not known? Tell us something we don't know!
Linux for instance uses random positive increments. No number is truly random, but many are "random enough".
That is to say, it's Really Hard to predict the port number, hard enough that trying some other vounerability would be more rewarding.
This is a non-story. Hackers and security experts have known about this so long that many have probably forgotten it several times by now. All this muckrake serves to do is alarm the chicken littles.
As i understand it, the nVidia code that goes into xfree86 is rendered unreadable before it is submitted.
I don't want to get into the details of how this violates the xfree86 license, or why you may or may not want to do such a thing. I just want to ask one specific question.
Now that you've crushed the competition, when might you consider laying off this practice?
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It has PCMCIA slots.. Need network access, add it... I'm considering adding a PCMCIA soundcard and using it for MP3's in a room that doesn't have a phone or computer yet.. Right next to my bar, so I can snag drink recipes too....
Unfortunately linux doesn't support pcmcia sound cards.
The pcmcia slots in the is2630 are quite badly hacked in. They only support 3.3v cards and cannot send a reset signal to a card. Many 3.3v capable pcmcia cards work, and so far every CF card that's been tried in a pcmcia carrier works.
I've got a 10/100 nic and a 64 meg cf card in one of mine.
The concept, when it was designed by a now defunct joint venture between philips & lucent, was for it to be an "internet appliance". They only sold a few hundred phones at $600/ea.
It's a strongarm computer that sits on my coffee table, and a complete overuse of technology. But it's fun.
Most LCD monitors are probably far beyond 130% better than NTSC. No big deal. They don't call it "Never The Same Color" for nothing.
Being lower power than CCFL isn't impressive. I also would not want to buy a laptop that used a side-lighting system of any kind, be it fancy-dandy LED or CCFL, because side lighting systems simply can't illuminate the whole screen.
LED side-lights have been around a long, long, long, long, long time. They are lower voltage than ccfl or EL, but both ccfl and led draw more amps than electro-luminescent backlighting.
That being said, the reason not everything uses EL is because EL is *expensive. And sometimes it's not bright enough for the task. iPaqs appear to be CCFL side-lit, for instance, and are freakin bright. side-lighting works well on a pocket computer becaise the screen is small enough that it can be uniformly lit from the side.
LCD technology has been improving every day, getting brighter and lower power. Maybe they've figured out a way to run a lot of white LEDs on only a little power, and this may presumably save you the cost and space of implementing an inverter to drive an EL or CCFL.
But it sounds to me like the the major thing they're shooting for is cost savings. if you wanted bright on a real small screen you'd go CCFL, and if you wanted low power you'd go EL. this sounds like they've made LED side-lights better than they used to be, but I doubt they're as good as other technologies.
I'd have to see a CCFL side-lit device right next to one that's been retrofitted with one of these fancy new LED side-lights before I'd advocate it from a quality-of-experience perspective.
Um, read his webpage.
He doesn't say anything about even trying to run linux on it. He's managed to get QNX to give him a regular shell prompt on it, and considers that useful. QNX aint a bad OS, so, sure, that's useful.
It's too fuzzy to make out what's on that title bar, but it would be perfectly normal for the QNX gui to put a title bar on a window, wouldn't it?
And it would help if you actually read the documents for which links are provided.
/different/ hard-real-time linux technology, RTAI.
What Lineo has done is paid for the right to tell customers "Yes, the Yodaiken patent is not a problem, it's been taken care of" when offering a
Lineo doesn't use, and doesn't plan to use, RTLinux. They're heavily vested in RTAI. Just got tired of customers asking "What about the Yodaiken patent?!"
You'd know that, if you'd read more than the submission.
Correction, they really only transmit atomic time, and other gobbletygook, making them simpler than i'd thought. www.trimble.com has a pretty good explanation of how GPS works.
Good Greif, people!
"GPS" is a system whereby a radio *reciever (Repeat, it is a RECIEVER, not a transmitter) can decipher one-way transmissions from orbiting satelites in order to allow it to calculate it's position.
Each satelite (And by satelite i mean a big chunk of equipment up in the sky) constantly broadcasts it's position in the sky and the current atomic time. The GPS unit uses this data to perform some math, allowing it to figure out where it is in relation to the satelites.
NONE of this, alone, allows anyone, anywhere, to figure out where you are.
The Acme rental cars are equipped with both a GPS reciever and a tracking device. It's possible for a tracking device to transmit it's GPS coordinates, but not necesary. It does make things easier, admitedly.
Without the tracking device, a car rental company could just as easily use the logs from the navigation system to figure out how fast you were driving. No tracking device needed. It is incredibly poor customer relations, however, and i think hartford will soon have one less car rental agency.
I haven't read the FCC thing, but i sorta doubt that cell phones will be equipped with full blown GPS recievers. Equipping them with enough brains to allow them to triangulate their position relative to the nearest cell stations would be far easier. you don't need GPS for this, but if it can be tweaked to emit WGS-84 coordinates, it sure will make you easier to find by anyone with a GPS reciever.
Basically, you'd need to know the coordinates of the cell stations. I think most cell phones already know how far they are from each passing cell station, just a little more math and a little added software.
I think the political importance of outrage over this sort of thing is hugely disserviced by the ammount of idiotic uninformed ranting going on. Get your facts straight or shut up.
Maybe thier recent version of DRDOS will help ;) (seriously-- support for legacy apps may be a good thing for some potential customers).
0 1/05.03.html for their response to Microsoft's attack on the GPL.
You're forgetting that DR-DOS belongs to Lineo, formerly Caldera Thin Clients, independent from Caldera for a few years now.
Lineo, unlike Caldera, is gaining customers instead of losing them, has made Microsoft their bitch (see the DR-DOS settlement), and wholeheartedly believes in the GPL. See http://www.lineo.com/news_events/announcements/20
The main thing I have encountered when using Linux on SPARC is not finding a distro that supports it but INSTALLING software. A substantial number of the applications that I have tried to install have not been ported to sparc linux, which defeats the purpose. To few developers too little time to port applications to every single platform. What is the point of running an OS that you can't find applications that will compile on it? I'd much rather use solaris on sparc for this single reason.
Whaddyamean "Port"?
tar xvzf foo.tar.gz
cd foo
./configure
make
su
make install
Almost always works for me, what's your problem? I've found very few apps that i can't get to compile on my sparc system.
OK, so maybe Corel WordPerfect for Linux and a few other big, commercial apps don't exist for sparc linux. Big deal.
Linux on Sparc is hardly being dropped. Debian supports it, Mandrake supports it, slackware supports it. "Redhat" is not the whole of linux.
Not that RedHat has completely dumped Sparc, either. They just didn't release a 7.0 or 7.1 for sparc. They didn't release a 5.0 or 5.1 either. It's just taking more time. 6.2 is still the most stable redhat version anyway.
Now, all that being said, Do you have an ss5-170? The turbosparc processor in a 170mhz SS5 is only partially supported, only in recent kernels, and is considered unstable. If you have a 170, you may be SOL. But that's just one version of one model of sparc.
2.4 does have some issues on 32-bit sparcs. It's coming along, they are working on this. 2.2 still works great.
If you have a 170, I completely understand not being able to install any linux distribution. If not, you're probably a victim of poor documentation.
I have linux running on an SS2, an LX, and an SS10 with dual SM51 cpus. Stuff still definately works.
Not only that, it was posted to /. on april 10th 1999. See http://slashdot.org/articles/99/04/10/1920203.shtm l
Why write linux software when you can just use Motion ( http://motion.technolust.cx/ )?
I disagree somewhat with using "cheap" usb cameras. If you can't see what's going on in the picture, what's it worth to you?
Also, keep in mind that the appearance of surveilance is actually more important than the actual surveilance. That's why you can buy plastic boxes with LEDs on them look like cameras, and one of the reasons why security camera domes are so dark. It wouldn't hurt to make it look like you have several cameras when you really only have one.
At any rate, the threat of identifying someone as a perpetrator is more important than just having the camera there. What good does it do if they trash it again and you have blurry pictures identifying the perp as a black, asian, native american, or tan caucasian male or female, 17-40 years old?
Why does the front page have a picture of the guts of a Compaq Contura 410 series notebook on it? The fastest of those was a dx2-50, if i recall correctly.
FINALLY. someone with some sense.
Disclaimer: I'm an avid TiVo user. Thus, my bias is to presume that ReplayTV users are chumps / suckers / whatever. Don't take it personal.
It sounds to me like ReplayTV users have a business relationship with a company, and that this company is abusing the relationship. When that happens, unless it's someone you just can't shake like the power company, it's up to you to remedy the situation.
It sounds like, from some other posters, that they removed this "feature" some time ago. Personally i never heard of it, but I don't know anyone who uses a ReplayTV box. So, it would seem, that the situation has been resolved.
On a larger scale, the set-top appliances now coming onto the market are setting the precedent for subscription-based software to come, and so far it seems to be going well.
Sure, there will be evil out there, but the sky isn't falling.
Really? Have you ever *HEARD* the audio from an iPAQ, or are you just repeating some specs you read? It certainly sounds fine to me, but what do I know, I've only been running an HHLinux iPAQ since September...
This is a long dead thread, but, What the hell. I'll get the last word in anyhow.
Yes, I have heard the audio from an ipaq.
iPaqs are extremely common in my workplace. We aquired a case of them. Yes, a case. We have connections. And all of them are running Linux.
Several of my coworkers contribute to the handhelds.org effort. I have not only heard an ipaq play mp3s, I have heard an ipaq in a PCMCIA sleeve with a WaveLan card play mp3's off a wirelessly mounted NFS volume.
I realize most of you mundanes can't tell the difference in audio quality between your Rio, or whatever. It doesn't mean it's not there.
The SA1110 + SA1111 combination is capable of 16 bit 11khz audio. Period. Says so in the datasheet. Known fact. Not up for dispute. Just because you think it sounds great doesn't mean that it's not extremely limited.
What i'm talking about is that the audio capability you get built into a STrongArm 1110 is 11khz. This is a hardware limitation.
That's 1/4 the samples per second you would get out of a regular sound card, or out of a Rio or similar dedicated mp3 player. I don't recall if it's stereo or not. At any rate it's low grade.
No, the best way to get an iPaq is to wait for the next model.
There are some hardware limitations in the current breed that are moderately annoying, and the reason why I'm not even considering droping a wad of cash on one until the next model has been out for quite a while. It's not even a matter of saving up my pennies. I've got the money, but it would feel like a waste.
The button controller on the iPaq has a bug. You can only get events from one button at a time. This means there's no way to have button-controlled games on it.
The audio is a little more limited than it has to be. They chose to use the built-in audio capability you have when you combine an SA1110 and an SA1111 -- this is 16 bit 11khz. So, although it has all the processor oomph you need, it won't make much of an mp3 player.
I hope that, if they do come out witha new ipaq that addresses these concerns, they keep the case the same and of course the sleeve interface the same. It's a great product, with two annoying shortcomings.
There are already at least a dozen people out there who know how to hack the guide data. They just haven't been spreading the info around very much.
The "stolen" hours you refer to are a bogeyman of the 2.0 upgrade that's been blown way out of proportion.
What TiVo SAID was that uses who have upgraded their A drive (not the B drive) will lose a portion of the space when they get 2.0 due to the way they did it. They were just giving people some fair warning.
Since upgrading the A drive is really difficult, I doubt this will affect many people.
WE all think it would be great as a wire eliminator, but unfortunately Ericsson doesn't want it to be used for that, won't talk to anyone who does, and it's their baby.
Ericsson's only application so far is advertisng. That's right, you're walking down the street, you pass a Coke machine, your cell phone goes 'blip blip!' and a text message asks you if you're thirsty. You're walking through the mall, you pass Victoria's Secret, your cell phone goes 'blip blip!' and informs you that thong underwear is half off. You're crusing down the freeway, you pass a billboard and . . . you get the idea. And they literally want it to go "blip blip" - go look at http://www.ericsson.com/blip .
Do YOU want your cell phone going "blip blip" and offering you advertisments two thousand times a day?
And they SAY it only costs $5 per unit in quantity, but since nobody is manufacturing anything in quantity, the cost is right on par with 802.11b at the moment.
It's also been done in American Fork, UT. With a gigabit backbone as well. I used to work for the company that did it.
I used to just think that Jon Katz was no more coherent than the average journalist. I didn't think he was a putz, just a journalist. Never mistake eloquence for intelegence.
Now, I see what everybody else has been seeing. Jon Katz is a putz.
A digital revolution? faith in it? goals fer cryin out loud? Pass the bong, man.
It seems like every six months these days, someone comes out with a head-motion pointer. They go way, way back.
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They're not even new to
Way back in the pre-ibmpc haze, Sage/Stride marketed one that required you to put a reflective dot on your forehead. Never took off.
This one looks real expensive, you can get a similar device for a lot cheaper HERE , for fifty bucks. Even has built in headphones.
So they're saying that if you can predict the port number that will be assigned to a session, you can hijack it?
Hello? When was this not known? Tell us something we don't know!
Linux for instance uses random positive increments. No number is truly random, but many are "random enough".
That is to say, it's Really Hard to predict the port number, hard enough that trying some other vounerability would be more rewarding.
This is a non-story. Hackers and security experts have known about this so long that many have probably forgotten it several times by now. All this muckrake serves to do is alarm the chicken littles.
As i understand it, the nVidia code that goes into xfree86 is rendered unreadable before it is submitted.
I don't want to get into the details of how this violates the xfree86 license, or why you may or may not want to do such a thing. I just want to ask one specific question.
Now that you've crushed the competition, when might you consider laying off this practice?