Show me regulations passed in the US in the last 15 years that worked well without massive downsides.
I do not think that the government has zero role in the running of the country. I believe that they, long ago, passed the line into over regulation. I think that continuing even further down this pass is almost always going to be a really bad idea.
I am sure that the way your were brought up there is only "all or nothing".
Some of us though are under the impression that many things are not like that. For example, Government. It is not restricted toward anarchy or nanny state, "Pick One".
The government needs to make no new law stating either that any contract you agree to you can later sue for because you no longer like it or a new law making something that is illegal,... illegal.
I really do have the right to decide what contract I want to enter into. I do not need the government telling me that my TV has to listen to me or is prohibited to listening to me.
Oh child, are you not aware that making a thing illegal that some might find useful because you do not like it hinders innovation and restricts the freedom of the customers themselves.
Also. Just wondering if the "Oh Child" comment when coming from me sounded sad and desperate? Or did the fact that it was not followed by a bunch of bullshit make it not quite as bad?
It is already a set precedent that in cases where this is true you can return a product if you do not agree with the TOS.
But that is not good enough I am sure. What needs to happen of course is that laws need to be passed to force companies to make the products you think they should make with a TOS you think they should have at a price you set.
One of two things is true in this situation. Either your agreement allows them to make whatever changes they want or it does not.
If it allows this then the problem is you entered into a shitty contract upon purchase. Current law allows you to return a thing if the only way to see the agreement is after buying and you do not agree.
If the agreement you entered into does not allow this then they are already in violation of this agreement. Not only can you sue them for breech, but... There are already laws that cover this type of behavior.
So. Either the customer made a bad agreement or the company is in breech of contract and perhaps already in violation of law. Where do we need a new law passed? Should we make illegal behavior illegal or should we make it against the law to put a thing in a contract that at a later date the customer no longer wants in place?
My ultimate conclusion is that passing a law saying they can not do it is wrongheaded. It is solving a symptom, not a problem and hinders innovation.
Maybe some people will benefit from this. Possibly injected, targeted ads by the TV will lower the cost. Some people may want to trade for this. Who the fuck are you to tell them no? What makes you the person who knows what is right and what is not? Have you not learned from almost every fucking law passed in the last 20 years that it does not work?
Things do not get better this way. This is the real world. Where central planing and massive bureaucracies are worse than nothing at all. Learn from the past.
Corporations have no obligation to be nice. They have no obligation to protect you. I have no obligation to be a good person. I am not obligated to protect you.
Corporations have an obligation to follow the laws and make a profit.
Expecting differently is a good way to be stupid. I am nice and protective of people in my life because I choose it. I am ok with people helping me out and protecting me, but I do not think others have an obligation to do it.
I am obligated to to protect me from my bad decisions.
Why are you so invested in a reality in which you have no control over the direction of your life? Have you make really bad decisions and want to blame something other than yourself for it?
Modded down due to the discomfort some people feel when faced with the possibility that their lives can not be blamed on things they have no control over.
It is not the responsibility of the government to protect people from their choices.
If only a few people care then those few will not buy from the manufacturer again. (Problem solved) If a bunch do it then companies lose business and change or exit the market. (Problem Solved) If they tell you in the TOS "You are shit and we will change your shit anytime we want." and you buy the device anyway "hoping" to not get screwed,... I really don't care if later on you are not happy with your choice.
The need for the population to do everything possible to convince me that they are powerless, stupid and irresponsible amazes me. So many people are so lazy that they spend enormous amounts of energy to become as powerless over their lives as possible.
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Show me regulations passed in the US in the last 15 years that worked well without massive downsides.
I do not think that the government has zero role in the running of the country. I believe that they, long ago, passed the line into over regulation. I think that continuing even further down this pass is almost always going to be a really bad idea.
That you must agree to having your conversations analyzed for key words so your TV can work?
(This is already the law) That they can not do it even if you (The Customer) agrees and wants it? (This should really spur innovation)
That there has to be a separate TOS for recording that the people who do not want to read the first one will also not read?
(This is where I think they will go) What exactly do you think the government can step in and fix here? (Government rarely does a thing well.)
Some of us though are under the impression that many things are not like that. For example, Government. It is not restricted toward anarchy or nanny state, "Pick One".
The government needs to make no new law stating either that any contract you agree to you can later sue for because you no longer like it or a new law making something that is illegal, ... illegal.
I really do have the right to decide what contract I want to enter into. I do not need the government telling me that my TV has to listen to me or is prohibited to listening to me.
Also. Just wondering if the "Oh Child" comment when coming from me sounded sad and desperate? Or did the fact that it was not followed by a bunch of bullshit make it not quite as bad?
I must inform you. Just because some guy goes out and murders people all the time does not make it a good thing to do.
But that is not good enough I am sure. What needs to happen of course is that laws need to be passed to force companies to make the products you think they should make with a TOS you think they should have at a price you set.
Go right ahead and continue being as powerless as makes you happy. Good luck.
Have fun spending the rest of your life finding someone to blame for your unhappiness. Hope it works out well for you.
If it allows this then the problem is you entered into a shitty contract upon purchase. Current law allows you to return a thing if the only way to see the agreement is after buying and you do not agree.
If the agreement you entered into does not allow this then they are already in violation of this agreement. Not only can you sue them for breech, but ... There are already laws that cover this type of behavior.
So. Either the customer made a bad agreement or the company is in breech of contract and perhaps already in violation of law. Where do we need a new law passed? Should we make illegal behavior illegal or should we make it against the law to put a thing in a contract that at a later date the customer no longer wants in place?
Maybe some people will benefit from this. Possibly injected, targeted ads by the TV will lower the cost. Some people may want to trade for this. Who the fuck are you to tell them no? What makes you the person who knows what is right and what is not? Have you not learned from almost every fucking law passed in the last 20 years that it does not work?
Things do not get better this way. This is the real world. Where central planing and massive bureaucracies are worse than nothing at all. Learn from the past.
I am cool with that.
By the way. You do not have a "right" to a TV. If no one makes one you like then do not buy one.
Corporations have an obligation to follow the laws and make a profit.
Expecting differently is a good way to be stupid. I am nice and protective of people in my life because I choose it. I am ok with people helping me out and protecting me, but I do not think others have an obligation to do it.
I am obligated to to protect me from my bad decisions.
Why are you so invested in a reality in which you have no control over the direction of your life? Have you make really bad decisions and want to blame something other than yourself for it?
Are you saying that what Samsung did is already illegal and we should pass new laws to ... ?
No action by lawmakers is required.
Modded down due to the discomfort some people feel when faced with the possibility that their lives can not be blamed on things they have no control over.
What most consumers can not be bothered to do is to read and understand what they are agreeing to in a purchase.
Just do not pin that weak ass shit on me.
It is not the responsibility of the government to protect people from their choices.
If only a few people care then those few will not buy from the manufacturer again. (Problem solved) If a bunch do it then companies lose business and change or exit the market. (Problem Solved) If they tell you in the TOS "You are shit and we will change your shit anytime we want." and you buy the device anyway "hoping" to not get screwed, ... I really don't care if later on you are not happy with your choice.
The need for the population to do everything possible to convince me that they are powerless, stupid and irresponsible amazes me. So many people are so lazy that they spend enormous amounts of energy to become as powerless over their lives as possible.
And when companies do this they lose future customers. Consumers are not as powerless as the government wants them to believe.
The fix is do not buy their shit. Those that do have made a choice.
Fucking pussies always looking for how the government should protect people from their own fucking decisions.
The people want the sound. Ford follows the mandates and gives customers what they want.
Sounds like Ford is doing the best it can under the rules it is forced to follow.
Fuck you.
If you like it more than he does you are a nutter.
This is really easy stuff.
Gratz. You sir are a thinking and evolving being.
Maybe you just spend too much time pulling statements out of your ass?