While CDE is the standard commercial UNIX desktop, some of the most popular GNU/Linux window managers are inspired by or clones of the slick NeXTstep interface. The most popular is undoubtedly GNUStep is a fairly complete clone which is also the "official" GNOME WM. (Bugger off, E-freaks!;) AfterStep, which shares core team members with GNUStep, is an older WM inspired by NeXTstep that also allows infinite customization. And be sure to pick up a copy of Aterm, a terminal emulator with NeXTstep-style scrollbars and really awesome transparency setups.
AfterStep actually used to be CmdrTaco's fave window manager, before he sold out to the Enlightenment camp. Fun fact: Taco is the author of the dockable CD applet "ascd", which looks really cool but dumps core more often than Shaft smacks hoes.:)
Apple may be trying some NeXTstepish things with OS X, but IMHO they should instead bring back the NeXT tradition of awesome, sleek black hardware. It is my hope, even though I don't use Macs, that the iMac's successor embodies this aesthetic philosophy... but I'm not holding my breath; despite the fact that Jobs wants to appear rebellious and artsy, he will never again sell a machine whose external appearance might frighten their now-core userbase of little kids and grandmas.
In those few cases, this is due to liberals' disallowing the construction of new plants. When you examine California's bumbling political policy, its crumbling infrastructure is hardly surprising.
California is having problems because the market was only half deregulated. The market was opened to multiple energy suppliers, but the rates that the consumer could be charged were frozen. When the prices that the power companies pay their suppliers skyrocketed, they were unable to pass the higher cost along to their customers. The result was depletion on their financial resources. There is no energy shortage in California. I repeat, there is no energy shortage in California. The problem is one of money alone.
And, of course, I blame it on liberalism and "consumer watchdogs" like Nader who believe in carrying their mantra of "protecting the consumer" to the extreme. In this case, "protecting" the consumer by not allowing the power providers to recoup their increases cost of operation is ending up hurting the consumer because they now have no service to buy.
"Quarter of an hour?" I can recompile 2.2.* and rebuild my object files while reheating my coffee. I guess that makes me a technology "have?":-)
With my current primary PC, I settled for a compromise between looks and functionality and got an Antec SOHO server case. It has two 80mm fan mounts at the anterior, two 80mm fan mounts at the posterior, a detachable, locking side panel, and a neat sliding "drive rail" system for the 5.25" bays. It's also very roomy. At $80 before shipping, it wasn't cheap, but it was definitely worth it.
While I know it's irrational, I just love cool looking case. My next PC will likely live in a Yeong Yang YY-8201 (miniNLX form factor) if I can find a decent mainboard for it.
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For example, scratch diagrams (be they architectural, machine modelling, or data/object modelling.)
Aha! That's where it clicked for me. What I really want is a screen to replace my whiteboards. A 5'x4', touch-sensitve flatscreen LCD where I can draw my flow charts and C++/Java object diagrams, plug into my PC, and get a 1600x1200 PNG of what's on the board. Awesome.
I've seen programs which let you draw on a pseudo-"whiteboard" the size of your computer screen (even a cool networked version), but they just can't replace the feeling of sketching out the shapes and paths in your mind onto the wall with a marker.
Man, that would be awesome. And probably only cost $20000, too.;-)
Hey, getting offtopic, but -- speaking of whiteboards, I've been looking to buy a medium or large one for my apartment. (I don't think I can swipe one from work...) Where can I find the best prices? Office Depo, et al want hundreds of dollars for those babies... maybe I should stake out some engineering supply stores?
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i apologise in advance for this OT rant:
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IE vs Netscape. Who won? IE. Not because it was necessarily better than Netscape, but simply because the company that owned it had more market share and more money to throw at it. Who cares if Netscape was there first or was better (better is an opinion), IE had the BIG company behind it to back it in the minds of the average consumer.
I hate to get into this, but it really bugs me that so many people feel that IE "won" just because Microsoft had endless amounts of cash to throw at it. IE also won because Netscape's stagnation and slow, but quiet, death.
Mozilla (Netscape 6) is a joke. Sure, it gives GNU/Linux users a browser that correctly implements at least part of CSS1, but it doesn't offer much else. Netscape 6 will not regain any marketshare in Win32 Land because it sarcrifices speed and functionality in favor of a portability I couldn't care less about. I used to be a big Netscape weenie. I even used their crappy mail client. But Microsoft's products kept getting better and better, and Netscape's weren't changing at all. Netscape 4.7* is essentially the same browser Netscape sold three years ago, with the addition of slighly better [awful] applet support and a "Shop" button. Mozilla is amazing compared to that shite, but when compared to the Microsoft line, is only about as functional and fast as an IE4/Outlook Express 5 combo, minus stability.
(Yes I'm aware what makes IE5* so fast. If Linux is to have any hope of succeeding the the consumer desktop market, perhaps it should learn to sacrfice some of its dubiously-pristine kernel process space in favor of what average desktop users really care about.)
IE is now available for Windows, MacOS, and Solaris. Users of other platforms such as GNU/Linux should concentrate on "third-world" browsers such as Opera, Konquerer, et cetera, and get as far as possible from the Netscape stigma. I respect the time and effort the Mozilla developers have spent, but at this point, it's not just beating a dead horse, it's beating a horse which has been dead so long that the flesh has rotted off. The first thing these third-world browsers need is proper CSS2 (the standard is only three fucking years old, heh heh) and DHTML support. After that, start on XML. Web developers will start trying to publish pure XML documents within two years, and if you don't want to miss the boat again, I suggest you do something.
It's not a matter of MS being evil. It's a matter of MS "releasing early and often" as the OSS saying goes, and it's a matter of their products supporting technologies both developers and users are eager to have. Once again, Mozilla is great, but MS had you beat two years ago. Netscape knows their browser line is dead, and don't care anyway; they make their money on iPlanet servers these days. ESR can bugger off. Products of the Cathedral may not be as polished upon initial release, but when compared to what comes out of the Bazaar... heh heh... ESR sure is a funny guy. He forgets that th Cathedral is what produced the UNIX system which GNU/Linux so happily ripped off.
I'm sure I'll be modded down for saying this, but while I think GNU/Linux on Mac PPC is a cool idea, I've never really understood the point.
Most Mac users probably don't even know what UNIX is, and while trying to convince them that they should load up some l337 UNIX-ripoff might be a fun way to spend a Saturday afternoon, it is an excercise in futility. UNIX/Linux people, on the other hand, can not justify buying Apple hardware just to run GNU/Linux, because you can build a dual-processor SMP Pentium III box with a shiteload of RAM for half of what an SMP G4 will cost you. No, it won't be RISC, but if you want a RISC box to run GNU/Linux on, buy a real UNIX workstation, like a SUN, HP, SGI, or IBM. (And while you're at it, try running a real UNIX on it.;-) You also won't get Altivec -- but hey, were you really going to be running Photoshop on Linux anyway?
I understand that there are people out there, like Malda, that have uses for both GNU/Linux and MacOS, and to you, I say: if you can afford a G4, you shouldn't be dual-booting, for God's sake. Hey, Malda! Does Sarcasta ever cry out "Oh, Mr Jobs!" in bed?
The only demographic which has a use for Linux PPC on Mac is owners of "Doorstop class" hardware who want to run El Cheapo headless servers for HTTP, DNS, routing, et al.
Slightly offtopic, but... the art department at a company my friend works for recently bought a dual-proc G4. No, wait, stop laughing, I haven't reached the punchline yet. The joke is that it's running... wait for it... MacOS 9! Yep, all the second CPU s doing is keeping the first warm and cozy.:-) The machine cost $4k, so I hope they at least buy OS X when it is released so that the nice hardware won't go to waste. MacOS X will make Linux PPC on Macs obselete, by the way. It's BSD Unix with MacOS's multimedia capabilities, which even I would be willing to pay for.
Anyway, this "news" pales in comparison the the story about Windows 2000 booting on G4s. But I'll take my NT zealotry elsewhere...
Dude, where have you been? Didn't you the story on/. two weeks ago about NT booting on G4s? And a bit before that, there was a story about the "lost" Alpha version.
You know, I really can't stand people who make comments like that.
Your username does not lessen your anonymity; he is no more of an unknown than you are.
The moniker "anonymous coward" is a joke. Some of the most insightful posts on this messageboard are posted AC. (I suppose, however, that if you are the average Slashdot poster these days, they do no have to try very hard to be exceptional!)
His anonymous post does not indicate a lack of "balls". Newbies, such as yourself (UID > 200k), often use this failed attempt at an insult, perhaps because of insecurities regarding their newbie status.
Maybe when you've been here longer than two fucking weeks, you'll realize that replying only makes them worse.
If your life is so meaningless that your Slashdot account gives you a feeling of superiority, than I feel very bad for you, my friend. And from now on, whenever I see you post, I'll remember this, and recall what a moron you are. Now perhaps you realize something: when words are as dumb as yours, maybe you don't want to take credit for them.
One would think the OS would be deterrent enough. Even the average car thief can sniff Linux's awful threads a mile away... probably sends most of them screaming, too.
Hell yeah. I remember when that shit went down, the trench-goths at school were actually banned from wearing their pathetic black trenchcoats. No long-haired male under twenty will ever again be able to wear a black trenchcoat without provoking visions of schoolyard slaughter.
On the other hand, I always thought the whole goth-trenchcoat thing was sort of lame, so maybe it's for the best. Not that I doubt our gothic friends' ability to devise even stupider fashions.
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Re:I don't quite get this....
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I still have 50$ bucks left, and idea's for a 15 year old computer enthusiast?
You can buy a lot of Vaseline and Kleenex for $50.00...
Oh, and FONS.
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Re:Christmas isn't about presents
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I agree. And I'm willing to help you make me happy by allowing you to send me copious amounts of money and merchandise. Email me for my address. *Sniff*... you're right, this is what the holidays are all about. I'm feeling so sentimental and generious right now, I just may let everyone give me presents. Happy holdidays, guys. Gimme gimme gimme.
PS - If I had mod access, I'd give you +1 for effort. Next time, try to make it less obvious.
That's your typical British arrogance, thinking their paper is The Times, right?;-) Anyway, here in the US it's also referred to as "The Times of London", which, while better than "The London Times", makes it sound like a department store or auction house.
An acronym of my own invention. I started using it under a different account when replying to people like "ackthpshawhatever" and the ACs seem to have caught on. I'm so proud. Maybe it'll get in the Jargon File.
As for the meaning, well, let's just leave it stay cryptic for a while. More fun that way.
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AfterStep actually used to be CmdrTaco's fave window manager, before he sold out to the Enlightenment camp. Fun fact: Taco is the author of the dockable CD applet "ascd", which looks really cool but dumps core more often than Shaft smacks hoes.
Apple may be trying some NeXTstepish things with OS X, but IMHO they should instead bring back the NeXT tradition of awesome, sleek black hardware. It is my hope, even though I don't use Macs, that the iMac's successor embodies this aesthetic philosophy... but I'm not holding my breath; despite the fact that Jobs wants to appear rebellious and artsy, he will never again sell a machine whose external appearance might frighten their now-core userbase of little kids and grandmas.
All generalizations are false.
All generalizations are false.
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And, of course, I blame it on liberalism and "consumer watchdogs" like Nader who believe in carrying their mantra of "protecting the consumer" to the extreme. In this case, "protecting" the consumer by not allowing the power providers to recoup their increases cost of operation is ending up hurting the consumer because they now have no service to buy.
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|D D| <-- this is a dual processor g4.
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|D X| <-- this is a g4 running macos 9.
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is that more condusive to your method of digesting information?
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All generalizations are false.
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With my current primary PC, I settled for a compromise between looks and functionality and got an Antec SOHO server case. It has two 80mm fan mounts at the anterior, two 80mm fan mounts at the posterior, a detachable, locking side panel, and a neat sliding "drive rail" system for the 5.25" bays. It's also very roomy. At $80 before shipping, it wasn't cheap, but it was definitely worth it.
While I know it's irrational, I just love cool looking case. My next PC will likely live in a Yeong Yang YY-8201 (miniNLX form factor) if I can find a decent mainboard for it.
All generalizations are false.
All generalizations are false.
All generalizations are false.
The Microsoft-phobic might feel more comfortable checking this out (requires Java applet-capable browser):
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I've seen programs which let you draw on a pseudo-"whiteboard" the size of your computer screen (even a cool networked version), but they just can't replace the feeling of sketching out the shapes and paths in your mind onto the wall with a marker.
Man, that would be awesome. And probably only cost $20000, too. ;-)
Hey, getting offtopic, but -- speaking of whiteboards, I've been looking to buy a medium or large one for my apartment. (I don't think I can swipe one from work...) Where can I find the best prices? Office Depo, et al want hundreds of dollars for those babies... maybe I should stake out some engineering supply stores?
All generalizations are false.
I hate to get into this, but it really bugs me that so many people feel that IE "won" just because Microsoft had endless amounts of cash to throw at it. IE also won because Netscape's stagnation and slow, but quiet, death.
Mozilla (Netscape 6) is a joke. Sure, it gives GNU/Linux users a browser that correctly implements at least part of CSS1, but it doesn't offer much else. Netscape 6 will not regain any marketshare in Win32 Land because it sarcrifices speed and functionality in favor of a portability I couldn't care less about. I used to be a big Netscape weenie. I even used their crappy mail client. But Microsoft's products kept getting better and better, and Netscape's weren't changing at all. Netscape 4.7* is essentially the same browser Netscape sold three years ago, with the addition of slighly better [awful] applet support and a "Shop" button. Mozilla is amazing compared to that shite, but when compared to the Microsoft line, is only about as functional and fast as an IE4/Outlook Express 5 combo, minus stability.
(Yes I'm aware what makes IE5* so fast. If Linux is to have any hope of succeeding the the consumer desktop market, perhaps it should learn to sacrfice some of its dubiously-pristine kernel process space in favor of what average desktop users really care about.)
IE is now available for Windows, MacOS, and Solaris. Users of other platforms such as GNU/Linux should concentrate on "third-world" browsers such as Opera, Konquerer, et cetera, and get as far as possible from the Netscape stigma. I respect the time and effort the Mozilla developers have spent, but at this point, it's not just beating a dead horse, it's beating a horse which has been dead so long that the flesh has rotted off. The first thing these third-world browsers need is proper CSS2 (the standard is only three fucking years old, heh heh) and DHTML support. After that, start on XML. Web developers will start trying to publish pure XML documents within two years, and if you don't want to miss the boat again, I suggest you do something.
It's not a matter of MS being evil. It's a matter of MS "releasing early and often" as the OSS saying goes, and it's a matter of their products supporting technologies both developers and users are eager to have. Once again, Mozilla is great, but MS had you beat two years ago. Netscape knows their browser line is dead, and don't care anyway; they make their money on iPlanet servers these days. ESR can bugger off. Products of the Cathedral may not be as polished upon initial release, but when compared to what comes out of the Bazaar... heh heh... ESR sure is a funny guy. He forgets that th Cathedral is what produced the UNIX system which GNU/Linux so happily ripped off.
All generalizations are false.
Most Mac users probably don't even know what UNIX is, and while trying to convince them that they should load up some l337 UNIX-ripoff might be a fun way to spend a Saturday afternoon, it is an excercise in futility. UNIX/Linux people, on the other hand, can not justify buying Apple hardware just to run GNU/Linux, because you can build a dual-processor SMP Pentium III box with a shiteload of RAM for half of what an SMP G4 will cost you. No, it won't be RISC, but if you want a RISC box to run GNU/Linux on, buy a real UNIX workstation, like a SUN, HP, SGI, or IBM. (And while you're at it, try running a real UNIX on it. ;-) You also won't get Altivec -- but hey, were you really going to be running Photoshop on Linux anyway?
I understand that there are people out there, like Malda, that have uses for both GNU/Linux and MacOS, and to you, I say: if you can afford a G4, you shouldn't be dual-booting, for God's sake. Hey, Malda! Does Sarcasta ever cry out "Oh, Mr Jobs!" in bed?
The only demographic which has a use for Linux PPC on Mac is owners of "Doorstop class" hardware who want to run El Cheapo headless servers for HTTP, DNS, routing, et al.
Slightly offtopic, but... the art department at a company my friend works for recently bought a dual-proc G4. No, wait, stop laughing, I haven't reached the punchline yet. The joke is that it's running... wait for it... MacOS 9! Yep, all the second CPU s doing is keeping the first warm and cozy. :-) The machine cost $4k, so I hope they at least buy OS X when it is released so that the nice hardware won't go to waste. MacOS X will make Linux PPC on Macs obselete, by the way. It's BSD Unix with MacOS's multimedia capabilities, which even I would be willing to pay for.
Anyway, this "news" pales in comparison the the story about Windows 2000 booting on G4s. But I'll take my NT zealotry elsewhere...
All generalizations are false.
Get with the times . . .
All generalizations are false.
- Your username does not lessen your anonymity; he is no more of an unknown than you are.
- The moniker "anonymous coward" is a joke. Some of the most insightful posts on this messageboard are posted AC. (I suppose, however, that if you are the average Slashdot poster these days, they do no have to try very hard to be exceptional!)
- His anonymous post does not indicate a lack of "balls". Newbies, such as yourself (UID > 200k), often use this failed attempt at an insult, perhaps because of insecurities regarding their newbie status.
- Maybe when you've been here longer than two fucking weeks, you'll realize that replying only makes them worse.
If your life is so meaningless that your Slashdot account gives you a feeling of superiority, than I feel very bad for you, my friend. And from now on, whenever I see you post, I'll remember this, and recall what a moron you are. Now perhaps you realize something: when words are as dumb as yours, maybe you don't want to take credit for them.Fuck you very much, and have a nice day.
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Oh hi, Paul, is that you?
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On the other hand, I always thought the whole goth-trenchcoat thing was sort of lame, so maybe it's for the best. Not that I doubt our gothic friends' ability to devise even stupider fashions.
All generalizations are false.
Oh, and FONS.
All generalizations are false.
PS - If I had mod access, I'd give you +1 for effort. Next time, try to make it less obvious.
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All generalizations are false.
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As for the meaning, well, let's just leave it stay cryptic for a while. More fun that way.
All generalizations are false.