Not exactly official, is it? And I got modded as flamebait? I'd say OP is more of a flamebait. I still got a lot of things to learn about the modders at slashdot, it seems.
..and Google's AppEngine is heavily geared toward Django, which the RoR world seems to consider a big threat due to Django's allegedly superior robustness and speed. The RoR world, at least it's big names, doesn't feel threatened by Django, as they don't care about critics that compares them to other frameworks. The fuck you picture from a talk by DHH - enuff said.
Just curious - does this mean that you have to upgrade to IE7? I'd prefer to keep my IE6 as of now, for testing etc. Yes, I could do all sorts of hacks to have them co-existing, or install it on my Linux box, but I'd still prefer to have IE6 on my good ol' XP machine.
..because that's not what Rails is all about. You could rant your ass of on how much people using Joomla sucks. The average Joomla dude has no technical skills whatsoever, barely knows what PHP is and uses other peoples designs (read: templates) for his webpages. There's no point complaining about this, as the attributes of the Joomla user is what they are because of the way Joomla works - easy to set up for a noob, no techie skills required.
Same thing about Rails. Rails has always been about programmer happiness and pretty code. This has naturally led to a community where the tech stuff isn't considered as much as the pretty-code-stuff. People doesn't give Zed praise for mongrel because they don't know enough about Ruby to realize how awesome Mongrel is.
Yeah, Dvorak should have been mandatory for people using keyboards a lot. In other words everyone. It's so much more ergonomic. Dvorak, Ruby on Rails and git, baby!
..use something different. I don't care what you use, or why you use it, as long as it works for you. And read this blogpost by Gilels Bowkett, which should tell you a thing or two about personal preferences.
There will never be an agreement on this.
Did anyone mention David and Goliath? The dude in the cave with an Kalashnikov, a robe and sandals seems a bit more fit for that kind of environment than a Goliath-ish soldier with all this fancy technology. The sandal-man moves around more easily, knows the environment he's in, runs faster, makes less noise and so on. Mr. sandal might be pwnd badly the day Goliath starts using nano-technology, though.
But as we WoW players tend to say: Skill > gear! (to a certain degree, at least)
The good old "grow-up" situation! I need to stop discussing with trolls, they'll just take you down to their level, which they are much more familiar with than me! They're always winning like that.
Oh, and about the poor attempt on hurting me by saying how much my website sucks: I agree. And I'm as annoyed as you are about that. That's why I made an accessible version, but that link is pretty much impossible to find. And it's not like the accessible version is very accessible either.
Finished! Move on, find someone else to harass, please.
To me, Rails is about beautiful code. At my level of app-making, I don't need huge performance and blah and blerg. All i care about is nice looking and agile code, really.
But, of course, we all need to be told that apples is better than bananas.
Yeah, I think we both agree that PHP is uglier than Python =)
I've never written one line of Python, though, so I have no idea. And I was also being a troll-bitch, I guess you also know that one can't say that one language is prettier than the other (unless you're comparing with PHP, of course, harr harr), as it's pretty subjective!
Yes, that's the creator of RoR talking about what he feels about other people not liking his framework. RoR is all about pretty code, if you don't like RoR, use something else.
We have a lot to learn from Microsoft about they enterprisey-ness. They do, for instance, use XML instead of yaml. And they violate DRY, that's important too! Look at User#baseurl and User#secureurl. And also the way they do User#getLoginUrl and User#getAppVerifier. No way they'll create a method to make get parameters for urls, we do that by hand every time. This:
def niceCamelCasedUrlMethod(options = {}) options.map {|key, value| "#{key}=#{value}" }.join("&") end
Who hasn't? I'd dare to say you're less likely to get SQL injections on a Rails app than on a Joomla installation, though. Rails is also pretty young. Perhaps it'd be equally common for rails app to get injected if you saw Rails apps as often as you saw Joomla installations, though. And, of course, a not-so-advanced rails developer might think that this - SomeModel.find(:all,:conditions => "foo = #{params[:bar]}") - is a good idea, and screw every effort the Rails framework made to prevent injections.
Second (upto fiftyfiving) that. I run tons of Joomla sites, and most of them are unproblematic. As soon as the hackers gets started, though, things start to get seriously smelly. One of my sites gets SQL injected at least once a day. I did everything google, joomla.org and other resources told me about patching Joomla, but I still get 'em.
I don't regret switching to Ruby on Rails.
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Not exactly official, is it? And I got modded as flamebait? I'd say OP is more of a flamebait. I still got a lot of things to learn about the modders at slashdot, it seems.
Jason Fried from 37signals has discussed this issue regarding a previous ripoff.
..and Google's AppEngine is heavily geared toward Django, which the RoR world seems to consider a big threat due to Django's allegedly superior robustness and speed. The RoR world, at least it's big names, doesn't feel threatened by Django, as they don't care about critics that compares them to other frameworks. The fuck you picture from a talk by DHH - enuff said.So it's 37signals that's been whining? Got something to justify that statement?
Thought so.
Just curious - does this mean that you have to upgrade to IE7? I'd prefer to keep my IE6 as of now, for testing etc. Yes, I could do all sorts of hacks to have them co-existing, or install it on my Linux box, but I'd still prefer to have IE6 on my good ol' XP machine.
..because that's not what Rails is all about. You could rant your ass of on how much people using Joomla sucks. The average Joomla dude has no technical skills whatsoever, barely knows what PHP is and uses other peoples designs (read: templates) for his webpages. There's no point complaining about this, as the attributes of the Joomla user is what they are because of the way Joomla works - easy to set up for a noob, no techie skills required.
Same thing about Rails. Rails has always been about programmer happiness and pretty code. This has naturally led to a community where the tech stuff isn't considered as much as the pretty-code-stuff. People doesn't give Zed praise for mongrel because they don't know enough about Ruby to realize how awesome Mongrel is.
Yeah, Dvorak should have been mandatory for people using keyboards a lot. In other words everyone. It's so much more ergonomic. Dvorak, Ruby on Rails and git, baby!
..use something different. I don't care what you use, or why you use it, as long as it works for you. And read this blogpost by Gilels Bowkett, which should tell you a thing or two about personal preferences. There will never be an agreement on this.
Did anyone mention David and Goliath? The dude in the cave with an Kalashnikov, a robe and sandals seems a bit more fit for that kind of environment than a Goliath-ish soldier with all this fancy technology. The sandal-man moves around more easily, knows the environment he's in, runs faster, makes less noise and so on. Mr. sandal might be pwnd badly the day Goliath starts using nano-technology, though.
But as we WoW players tend to say: Skill > gear! (to a certain degree, at least)
The good old "grow-up" situation! I need to stop discussing with trolls, they'll just take you down to their level, which they are much more familiar with than me! They're always winning like that.
*poof*
Is "being on slashdot" an excuse for not calling what you just did a troll? =P
I am my own client, troll declined!
Oh, and about the poor attempt on hurting me by saying how much my website sucks: I agree. And I'm as annoyed as you are about that. That's why I made an accessible version, but that link is pretty much impossible to find. And it's not like the accessible version is very accessible either.
Finished! Move on, find someone else to harass, please.
To me, Rails is about beautiful code. At my level of app-making, I don't need huge performance and blah and blerg. All i care about is nice looking and agile code, really.
But, of course, we all need to be told that apples is better than bananas.
My link..
I'm used to neat 2.0 comment interfaces with 'edit' buttons!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/planetargon/127984254 /
Yeah, I think we both agree that PHP is uglier than Python =)
I've never written one line of Python, though, so I have no idea. And I was also being a troll-bitch, I guess you also know that one can't say that one language is prettier than the other (unless you're comparing with PHP, of course, harr harr), as it's pretty subjective!
...said egrinake, the God that Decides Which Language that Rocks More.
May I remind you all of this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/planetargon/1279842 54/
Yes, that's the creator of RoR talking about what he feels about other people not liking his framework. RoR is all about pretty code, if you don't like RoR, use something else.
So, that sorted that out. Now, troll!
I'd probably go insane if I had to run a OS from a CD for 5 months.
Who hasn't? I'd dare to say you're less likely to get SQL injections on a Rails app than on a Joomla installation, though. Rails is also pretty young. Perhaps it'd be equally common for rails app to get injected if you saw Rails apps as often as you saw Joomla installations, though. And, of course, a not-so-advanced rails developer might think that this - SomeModel.find(:all, :conditions => "foo = #{params[:bar]}") - is a good idea, and screw every effort the Rails framework made to prevent injections.
Anyway, you're right.
Second (upto fiftyfiving) that. I run tons of Joomla sites, and most of them are unproblematic. As soon as the hackers gets started, though, things start to get seriously smelly. One of my sites gets SQL injected at least once a day. I did everything google, joomla.org and other resources told me about patching Joomla, but I still get 'em. I don't regret switching to Ruby on Rails.
Anyone feels like explaining what characters this is all about? Page in article is, liek, down.