Oh, disproven again. Okay, uh... uh... Yeah, you've never seen those forces in person, so you are full of it! Whew, close one. God wins again, nyah nyah nyah! (I'm not really the original poster, just little bored)
> But the ID crowd do not kick up anything like the same amount of fuss when it comes to "origin of the universe" or "origin of the planet"
WHAT??? ARE YOU BLIND AND DEAF???
So you don't hear these same sorts of people screaming about the "Big Bang" being utter B.S. and the planet being only 6000 years old? Are you consciously avoiding them, or just conveniently ignoring them?
Unless you were being sarcastic, of course, which I hope (although it wasn't presented in a sarcastic manner, so it seems not).
> Only faith can say one way or another at this time. This last statement will cause people to close their minds and begin shooting profanities at me.
I don't know about shouting profanities, but certainly pointing out that you are wrong. You see, despite how hard you may wish for something to be true, believing it so does not make it so. Faith can not say anything "one way or another!" It is only a personal belief with no basis in truth. If it happens to mirror truth, great! But don't try to tell me that the truth arose from the belief.
(Most) Physicians don't know shit about biology in the long-term. I mean REAL long term, longer than the few generations the physicians have been able to study.
> the use of "possible" is clearly distingushable from "likely" or "certain",
"Possible" pulls no weight in reality. Sure, it is possible that the Earth will explode tomorrow due to an amazing game of billiards, played by me, of course. However, it's not freaking likely.
Both you and the parent poster are in serious need of blowjobs. Of course, who isn't...
For the OP to say those things are the same as religion certainly is loony. Obviously they are different. However, your extreme sarcasm doesn't help matters when you assume that any time someone disagrees with Environmentalist agenda (which rarely has anything to do with protecting the environment) that they want poisoned water. False dichotomy. Diversity? What if there IS no diversity in the area? Why the hell should kids in Appalachia be expected to care about the history of some people they will never meet? Many Liberals have unrealistic expectations of what skewed information they say should be taught, and Conservatives have those expectations of what outright lies should be taught.
Frankly, yes, because you are asking them to close their eyes to other possibilities, so it is MUCH worse than to keep it limited to those who wish to tell each other such amazing lies!
> believe that restricting others behaviors
That is a dishonest stance: that if you are not allowing something to be forced on the children that they are being actively restricted from it. Funny how the oppressive majority like to constantly act like victims.
> At what point should laws restrict individual actions other than for the general betterment of society?
It should not have much of anything to do with the betterment of society, it should be based on the liberty of individuals. What the hell is your point? Oh, you were trying to slip a false dichotomy in there, I see. Asking you to keep your fairy tales from being taught as fact on public land is for the betterment of society in general.
THE POINT IS that what should be taught are things that are provable, or at least you can find a good bit of evidence for them. There is absolutely zero evidence for the existence of any trolls, sprites (I don't mean graphical objects), pixies, gods, or aliens. Actually, there is evidence for the existence of aliens, yet if I said I believed in UFOs, you'd probably call me crazy. If I dared call a Christian crazy for something even more fantastic, I am called closed-minded and evil.
Wasting buttloads of time pointing fingers when you could be fixing the problem or working on a way of preventing it in the future
Someone enjoying wasting other peoples' time to such an extent
Someone enjoying watching someone else suffer because of his job
If he is truly incompetent, he should be fired, not just made to feel uncomfortable for an afternoon
Different attitudes when "I" do something vs. when "they" do something does not make for friendly or happy employees
"Suit-friendly," in this context sounds awfully similar to "kissing ass"
Essays are for school. Explaining/documenting what happened is fine, but I suspect it means something a bit different here
Yet another meeting
You are placing politics above the quality of your work and above the quality of your employer's product. No wonder just about everything made in the USA is becoming lower-quality, there are people like you working everywhere, trying to further yourself without regard for what you're ACTUALLY supposed to be doing
> It also had a "do not disturb" ripcord on the back though
Mine has one of those, but I didn't realize it went so far into the wall. And why's it got that plastic plate in the middle? I've pulled out about 20ft of ripcord so far!
> If you shove a CD in a box and sell it, you're not going to get away with "NO WARRANTY EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED"
You mean like disclaiming any liability and not guaranteeing fitness for any purpose, like most commercial software does?
> Willingness to properly stand behind your product goes a long way towards my confidence
I think you need to watch fewer TV commercials and read more Microsoft (et al) license agreements, etc. They don't stand behind their product either, except that they give a 900 number you can call them for $25 a minute to talk to someone who knows just as much (or less) as you do.
> He should have just given the dude his file and not his key.
I think that was part of the assumption (unless I am remembering a different post). The point was that he doesn't have the key, but if he tells the police that, they will not believe him, and it would appear incriminating.
That's wierd, I am from WV (currently in OH) and one of the doctors at my hospital has a license plate similar to your/. nick on it... craziness.
Anyway, back on-topic. I sort-of agree, but you must be more specific when you say "the government." I believe much of the problem is with the state governments (WV's is particularly inept, perhaps corrupt), not the federal government. West Virginia has a high number of lawyers in office, and in its poulation. This means they do everything they can to make sure everyone is busy suing the pants off of everyone else.
They also take advantage of the fact that there are very poor regions in WV, where the people automatically think "doctor == rich, I bet I can get some money out of that guy."
WV has been constantly going downhill for quite a while, yet the state has voted for the same party in almost every single election (2004 presidency was an extreme exception) for the last two decades. They don't consider any kind of change, even when the status quo is lower every year.
> Then they send you a bill for double what they'd charge an insurance company.
Come on, think, instead of repeating out-of-context points. The insurance companies pay less for services, why? First off, because the hospitals have contracts with those companies. You might as well complain that MS unfairly charges Dell less for Windows. Yes, they do, but it's because of the bulk. Same with Hospital-insurance contracts.
Ignoring that, if the hospitals charged them for actual costs, the insurance companies would stall, refuse to pay, stall some more. Most hospitals can't afford to wait that long for payment, so they opt for less money, faster.
> Then they sue you into bankruptcy and homelessness.
A hospital can do no such thing. It's the collection agencies that have the ability to sue.
I work in a hospital, jackass, and American hospitals can't turn you away if you have some serious problem: even if they know you are broke, never had a job, and never will.
That is correct, what they are selling is a burned-out legend and a bunch of whiny idiots that no true music fans like mangling a single song off of the Sgt. Pepper's LHCB band.
These asswipes aren't comparing Beethoven to the Beatles, they are comparing beethoven to U2, which is why no one downloaded the thing. No one wants to hear that schmuck Bono do anything, least of all destroy a classic song.
> He chooses to work road construction, so you should be able to speed and try to kill him?
Did I say that? No I did not, don't put words into my mouth. If he's working construction, he should know not to WALK IN FRONT OF TRAFFIC. I am driving in the left lane, he's in the right lane, which is blocked off with cones or barrels. So regardless of my speed (within reason), I'm not going to hit him unless he jumps out into the left lane, in which case he's suicidal or a fucking idiot.
> You do not have a right to be there
I have a right to be anywhere I please. In some of those places, people have given themselves the "right" to remove me, forceably.
> You hit someone in an Illinois construction zone you are going to jail
Really? So if I'm going the posted speed limit, some moronic construction worker jumps in front of my car, I go to jail for it? Somehow, I think there would be plenty of lawyers jumping for my case on that one.
> Just because you think it is a highway doesn't mean the speed limit is as high as it used to be.
No, I assume it's the posted speed limit. If I got pulled over for going the posted limit, I'd be pretty jacked. I'm not exactly sure what you were going for with that statement.
Excuse me if I don't trust articles from a Catholic source and an extremely one-sided one (backward-respectively) on judging people.
The small bit of the both of those that I read was wildly inaccurate, claiming that modern times are the only time when sex was not seen as evil (not quite so bluntly, but that's what they basically said). That is complete bullshit, made up by the church. In fact, the religious stigma against any kind of sex at all is relatively recent, and confined mostly to Christianity in its many flavours (and Islam, but that's a slightly different matter).
If you stop limiting yourself to just Xtians, you will find many fewer people thinking that sex is evil when a baby isn't made.
Oh, disproven again. Okay, uh... uh... Yeah, you've never seen those forces in person, so you are full of it! Whew, close one. God wins again, nyah nyah nyah!
(I'm not really the original poster, just little bored)
> you certainly have a lot of animosity towards an entity [...] you claim doesn't exist.
I can't speak for TMP, but I don't have animosity for nonexistent things, I have animosity for the people that try to force those things on me.
> But the ID crowd do not kick up anything like the same amount of fuss when it comes to "origin of the universe" or "origin of the planet"
WHAT??? ARE YOU BLIND AND DEAF???
So you don't hear these same sorts of people screaming about the "Big Bang" being utter B.S. and the planet being only 6000 years old? Are you consciously avoiding them, or just conveniently ignoring them?
Unless you were being sarcastic, of course, which I hope (although it wasn't presented in a sarcastic manner, so it seems not).
> Nothing within ID itself requires the intelligence in ID be of supernatural origin.
Except for an extremely large percentage of the people that push for it to be taught as science. They say it is supernatural.
> Only faith can say one way or another at this time. This last statement will cause people to close their minds and begin shooting profanities at me.
I don't know about shouting profanities, but certainly pointing out that you are wrong. You see, despite how hard you may wish for something to be true, believing it so does not make it so. Faith can not say anything "one way or another!" It is only a personal belief with no basis in truth. If it happens to mirror truth, great! But don't try to tell me that the truth arose from the belief.
(Most) Physicians don't know shit about biology in the long-term. I mean REAL long term, longer than the few generations the physicians have been able to study.
> the use of "possible" is clearly distingushable from "likely" or "certain",
"Possible" pulls no weight in reality. Sure, it is possible that the Earth will explode tomorrow due to an amazing game of billiards, played by me, of course. However, it's not freaking likely.
Both you and the parent poster are in serious need of blowjobs. Of course, who isn't...
For the OP to say those things are the same as religion certainly is loony. Obviously they are different. However, your extreme sarcasm doesn't help matters when you assume that any time someone disagrees with Environmentalist agenda (which rarely has anything to do with protecting the environment) that they want poisoned water. False dichotomy. Diversity? What if there IS no diversity in the area? Why the hell should kids in Appalachia be expected to care about the history of some people they will never meet? Many Liberals have unrealistic expectations of what skewed information they say should be taught, and Conservatives have those expectations of what outright lies should be taught.
6.5 of one, half a "baker's dozen" of the other.
> do you believe the world is worse if ...
Frankly, yes, because you are asking them to close their eyes to other possibilities, so it is MUCH worse than to keep it limited to those who wish to tell each other such amazing lies!
> believe that restricting others behaviors
That is a dishonest stance: that if you are not allowing something to be forced on the children that they are being actively restricted from it. Funny how the oppressive majority like to constantly act like victims.
> At what point should laws restrict individual actions other than for the general betterment of society?
It should not have much of anything to do with the betterment of society, it should be based on the liberty of individuals. What the hell is your point? Oh, you were trying to slip a false dichotomy in there, I see. Asking you to keep your fairy tales from being taught as fact on public land is for the betterment of society in general.
THE POINT IS that what should be taught are things that are provable, or at least you can find a good bit of evidence for them. There is absolutely zero evidence for the existence of any trolls, sprites (I don't mean graphical objects), pixies, gods, or aliens. Actually, there is evidence for the existence of aliens, yet if I said I believed in UFOs, you'd probably call me crazy. If I dared call a Christian crazy for something even more fantastic, I am called closed-minded and evil.
Nice link, it mentions me!
Ooh, ooh, insult my music next!
> It also had a "do not disturb" ripcord on the back though
Mine has one of those, but I didn't realize it went so far into the wall. And why's it got that plastic plate in the middle? I've pulled out about 20ft of ripcord so far!
> Your phone has a wheel?! I have to crank mine
Luxury, laddie! When we wanted to make a call, we had to run the distance with a piece of string, attach a can to the end and run back!
> If you shove a CD in a box and sell it, you're not going to get away with "NO WARRANTY EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED"
... called out for being wrong?
You mean like disclaiming any liability and not guaranteeing fitness for any purpose, like most commercial software does?
> Willingness to properly stand behind your product goes a long way towards my confidence
I think you need to watch fewer TV commercials and read more Microsoft (et al) license agreements, etc. They don't stand behind their product either, except that they give a 900 number you can call them for $25 a minute to talk to someone who knows just as much (or less) as you do.
> The reason here is I don't really want to get
I know, I just like repeating the same stupid statements... ;)
> He should have just given the dude his file and not his key.
I think that was part of the assumption (unless I am remembering a different post). The point was that he doesn't have the key, but if he tells the police that, they will not believe him, and it would appear incriminating.
> The bombings in London, Madrit and 9/11 all prove that 'the old ways' are not working anymore
Explain to me, then, how the "new ways," as you call them, would have done jack shit?
That's wierd, I am from WV (currently in OH) and one of the doctors at my hospital has a license plate similar to your /. nick on it... craziness.
Anyway, back on-topic. I sort-of agree, but you must be more specific when you say "the government." I believe much of the problem is with the state governments (WV's is particularly inept, perhaps corrupt), not the federal government. West Virginia has a high number of lawyers in office, and in its poulation. This means they do everything they can to make sure everyone is busy suing the pants off of everyone else.
They also take advantage of the fact that there are very poor regions in WV, where the people automatically think "doctor == rich, I bet I can get some money out of that guy."
WV has been constantly going downhill for quite a while, yet the state has voted for the same party in almost every single election (2004 presidency was an extreme exception) for the last two decades. They don't consider any kind of change, even when the status quo is lower every year.
> Then they send you a bill for double what they'd charge an insurance company.
Come on, think, instead of repeating out-of-context points. The insurance companies pay less for services, why? First off, because the hospitals have contracts with those companies. You might as well complain that MS unfairly charges Dell less for Windows. Yes, they do, but it's because of the bulk. Same with Hospital-insurance contracts.
Ignoring that, if the hospitals charged them for actual costs, the insurance companies would stall, refuse to pay, stall some more. Most hospitals can't afford to wait that long for payment, so they opt for less money, faster.
> Then they sue you into bankruptcy and homelessness.
A hospital can do no such thing. It's the collection agencies that have the ability to sue.
I work in a hospital, jackass, and American hospitals can't turn you away if you have some serious problem: even if they know you are broke, never had a job, and never will.
> There is no Sgt. Pepper's for sale there.
That is correct, what they are selling is a burned-out legend and a bunch of whiny idiots that no true music fans like mangling a single song off of the Sgt. Pepper's LHCB band.
These asswipes aren't comparing Beethoven to the Beatles, they are comparing beethoven to U2, which is why no one downloaded the thing. No one wants to hear that schmuck Bono do anything, least of all destroy a classic song.
> He chooses to work road construction, so you should be able to speed and try to kill him?
Did I say that? No I did not, don't put words into my mouth. If he's working construction, he should know not to WALK IN FRONT OF TRAFFIC. I am driving in the left lane, he's in the right lane, which is blocked off with cones or barrels. So regardless of my speed (within reason), I'm not going to hit him unless he jumps out into the left lane, in which case he's suicidal or a fucking idiot.
> You do not have a right to be there
I have a right to be anywhere I please. In some of those places, people have given themselves the "right" to remove me, forceably.
> You hit someone in an Illinois construction zone you are going to jail
Really? So if I'm going the posted speed limit, some moronic construction worker jumps in front of my car, I go to jail for it? Somehow, I think there would be plenty of lawyers jumping for my case on that one.
> Just because you think it is a highway doesn't mean the speed limit is as high as it used to be.
No, I assume it's the posted speed limit. If I got pulled over for going the posted limit, I'd be pretty jacked. I'm not exactly sure what you were going for with that statement.
Excuse me if I don't trust articles from a Catholic source and an extremely one-sided one (backward-respectively) on judging people.
The small bit of the both of those that I read was wildly inaccurate, claiming that modern times are the only time when sex was not seen as evil (not quite so bluntly, but that's what they basically said). That is complete bullshit, made up by the church. In fact, the religious stigma against any kind of sex at all is relatively recent, and confined mostly to Christianity in its many flavours (and Islam, but that's a slightly different matter).
If you stop limiting yourself to just Xtians, you will find many fewer people thinking that sex is evil when a baby isn't made.
Another fad I'd like to see disappear are those lame overused acronyms.... that said:
LOL!!!