Ok either this guy is a moron that doesn't even attempt to read the manual or he had some akward non-linux friendly hardware.
As long as you know what hardware is in the machine gentoo is a very very simple installation procedure.
1) Boot to the minimal livecd. 2) Setup your partitions using `fdisk/dev/`. Write down your partition layout so you don't forget (or label the partitions). 3) Setup the filesystems (default to ext3 if you don't know which to choose) by doing a `mkfs.ext3/dev/` 4) Setup the swap partition by doing a `mkswap/dev/` and following it up with a `swapon/dev/` 5) Mount your file systems the way you want them to/mnt/gentoo and make your mount points inside the root partition once mounted 6) Download the two tarballs, 1) the stage3 tarball from one of the mirror sites and 2) the most recent portage image 7) un-tarball the stage3 tarball to/mnt/gentoo and the portage image to/mnt/gentoo/usr 8) mount the/proc &/dev file systems by using the mount commands in the gentoo installation manual 9) `chroot/mnt/gentoo` so you don't get confused by paths and set your environment variables with `./etc/profile` 10) start installing required boot packages like gentoo-kernel, grub, etc... 11) configure said packages by reading the manual
This process won't work if you don't understand these commands so go back to your automated install and learn what the programs in/sbin and/usr/sbin do before you try gentoo.
Umm, according to their website they are `VPN Firewall/Routers`. Heck, even the url i provided in my previous post includes `router` in it.
I would also just consider the proper comparison as being between cessna, two seaters and a learjet as a better description. Just slightly bigger but quite a bit more capable.
Sadly i have to admit that i use perl & php together...
Perl's DBD for Postgresql has some issues dealing with oddly formed strings (even when properly quoted). PHP doesn't have this issue (even when the strings are unquoted). So i literally execute a php script on the CLI to perform insert operations. (The php script just reads a temporary file with the data needed to insert.)
Yes this is hokey... but it works, and i didn't want to spend another hour or two figuring out why perl was having issues.
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I don't rewrite code. I generally just write a method in php to do something that might need to be repeated somewhere else. Its simple, its basic programming.
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Oh of course put in a few If statements into pages to account for the varying issues between browsers. But if you enable some cool feature using some cutting edge browser, and then rewrite it in some non-cutting edge form, you are doing twice the work, and i sure the hell know my employer won't pay me to do something twice no matter how cool it is.
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Who cares if it supports every known web browsing extension available. You arn't going to find sites that use the more fun extensions until IE does. Webdesign still has to be done to the lowest level for maximum compatability with users, which is now IE 6.0.
I hate this, but its true. If you design something that looks great in Firefox/Opera/Other superior browser, if it doesn't work in IE then thats 85% of the people on the internet that can't/won't use the website.
Then was their GSX Server equal to their workstation product? And if so why are they charging $189 for a workstation product when Server now does the same thing?
A year ago i used the trial vmware workstation for a while, i liked it, but i wasn't willing to pay the cash to keep it. Just recently VMWare released VMWare Server which works on my XP Pro machine and appears to be a rebranded VMWare Server 5.0 that I used a year ago, for free.
We have big 1000 lbs safes to store stuff where I work. I had a task of moving one with a refrigerator dolly/handtruck. The handtruck broke (thin solid rubber tires got pinched in half by the rim and the floor). We still needed to move the safe. I found a 6' long 1" thick wooden dolly, broke it in pieces and rolled the safe around like a giant stone in egypt.
Java: End User Applications; web based apps with WebStart (portability between OSes) PHP: Simple Web Based stuff (mainly mapserver interfaces) Python (Zope): More complex websites that need integration to survive (can't beat the stack in Zope) Perl: simple shortcut scripts to parse text into databases. (You can't replace a language meant to parse text as well as perl does; but the learning curve is a pain to get there).
Occasionally i will have a limit placed on the language; but when the numbers are shown for me showing them the cost of me doing the learning curve to say write a gui application in.NET that I can only guarantee will work flawlessly on 50% of the boxes we use; they generally go my way.
Yes, I did it to a system built off of Linux From Scratch and was almost done with the build process about ready to reboot and load the new system for the first time... 15 hours of work down the drain.
Umm, sorry to say, I don't know anyone who has been imprisoned in my family more than a night when they were a kid for breaking curfew or some other odd tiny rule.
Just a little bit of stats on my family tree, my Dad's side of the family has 11 brothers and sisters, and my moms has 4. that means out of 13 aunts & uncles ZERO have been in jail for anything larger than a youth related offense. Excluding one of my uncles who went AWOL during his training during the Vietnam war. Also the same uncle got busted for drugs and a few other offenses since then, but who's counting.
I remember seeing it a while ago also, just tried this new version, and its better on the controls, but you can't use the windows in the sphere, so its almost useless. Ya it looks pretty, ya it lets you see the windows in perspective, but you to do something small on one of them, you have to take it out of the sphere and on the actual desktop. So you can't have anything useful in the background.
Its pointless right now, gimme a 3d environment where i can actually use the windows in it, and i'll buy me a machine to run it, till then later.
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You know, i installed solaris 10 on my system to test it out... 30 minutes later it was running... 15 minutes later it was hosting basic web pages... Solaris is easy to use, and I don't care how competent a sysadmin is on one system, if you ever have to replace your competent one with someone else no matter what resume's say, if you are used to one level of competency and then you go off and change that competent person, the competency level drops.
So that means a system like Solaris that if you have basic *nix knowledge is extremly easy to pick up. Hell look at the containers... they are pretty sweet. ZFS awesome. And guess what they are will to GIVE IT AWAY. My god, and you people want to bitch at them. Since when is giving something away that is top of the line *nix software a bad thing. Yes they have licensing issues at the moment thinking about switching to a GPL... but comon, Solaris does things right. They have learned from theirs and others mistakes. Look at Java, when people complain about something enough they do what they cna to fix it. Java 1.5 has a new Swing L&F to support winxp. It looks nearly native now, we bitched, they fixed.
I have never been a Sun fan, I have never really liked java much, but when does a company have to do things right to get the minorities support, not make money?
I don't understand some days. Software can be written great. It can be written flawlessly. And how fucking hard is it to say 1+1 = 2? Ok so you may have to keep track of each vote. Thats where a database comes in. But seriously people, how fucking hard is it to write a piece of software with a touch screen that breaks? Ok... lets see touch screen passes point on screen to software. Software translates point into multiple different regions representing the intended vote. Software then confirms vote with voter. Voter leaves booth. Voter enters booth, voter touches screen a few times, voter leaves booth. I mean no shit, I could design using PC hardware and a touch screen, a pretty unbreakable, unproblematic voting machine. And you know how long it would take me to do it... 6 months. The first month is all planning. The second month is design. Third month is redesign/replanning. Fourth final design. Month Five, guess what fixing small bugs, which shouldn't be a big problem with the proper planning. Month Six, taking the machine out on the public and letting them try to break it. Find elderly people at a retirement home let them test it for ease of use and understanding. Take it to corporate america and let them see if it will let them vote fast enough.
Now here is the kicker... using fiber optic cabling, port security enabled on switch, and 5 redundant counting mechanism on 3 different machines, two machines which are off site. Oh and guess what... all I need to communicate between the site and the servers offsite is a 56k modem. Why so small bandwidth? Because passing votes around doesn't require much bandwidth... its not a movie or even streaming audio, its text, that would of course be encrypted using massive shared keys. So phone tapping won't work, shit, I will go ahead and implement an error checking mechanism ontop of the already existing modem error checking. Why can companies no do simple things simply. I bet a good portion of those machines are running windows... why because windows sounds good. Hell, I can remember a touch screen on Apple IIe computers, we can use one of them for our clients. They had modems for those... We can do some rudimentary encryption and error checking on them.... whats wrong? Afraid of using older simpler hardware to do a simple task.
Oh well, I got to rant, now I wonder if this will be modded troll or interesting.
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Ok either this guy is a moron that doesn't even attempt to read the manual or he had some akward non-linux friendly hardware.
/dev/`. Write down your partition layout so you don't forget (or label the partitions). /dev/` /dev/` and following it up with a `swapon /dev/` /mnt/gentoo and make your mount points inside the root partition once mounted /mnt/gentoo and the portage image to /mnt/gentoo/usr /proc & /dev file systems by using the mount commands in the gentoo installation manual /mnt/gentoo` so you don't get confused by paths and set your environment variables with `. /etc/profile`
/sbin and /usr/sbin do before you try gentoo.
As long as you know what hardware is in the machine gentoo is a very very simple installation procedure.
1) Boot to the minimal livecd.
2) Setup your partitions using `fdisk
3) Setup the filesystems (default to ext3 if you don't know which to choose) by doing a `mkfs.ext3
4) Setup the swap partition by doing a `mkswap
5) Mount your file systems the way you want them to
6) Download the two tarballs, 1) the stage3 tarball from one of the mirror sites and 2) the most recent portage image
7) un-tarball the stage3 tarball to
8) mount the
9) `chroot
10) start installing required boot packages like gentoo-kernel, grub, etc...
11) configure said packages by reading the manual
This process won't work if you don't understand these commands so go back to your automated install and learn what the programs in
Where are my mod points when I need em....
Umm, according to their website they are `VPN Firewall/Routers`. Heck, even the url i provided in my previous post includes `router` in it.
I would also just consider the proper comparison as being between cessna, two seaters and a learjet as a better description. Just slightly bigger but quite a bit more capable.
I believe he was referring to netgear's "REAL" routers, they offer some small business routers that are bigger badder than the ones they sell for home use. http://www.netgear.com/products/business/prod_vpnr outer_wired_security_sb.php
Yep, i setup the insert in a $dbh->prepare("INSERT INTO .... VALUES (?, ?, ?, ?);");
and then i try a $sth->execute(@values);
Sadly i have to admit that i use perl & php together...
Perl's DBD for Postgresql has some issues dealing with oddly formed strings (even when properly quoted). PHP doesn't have this issue (even when the strings are unquoted). So i literally execute a php script on the CLI to perform insert operations. (The php script just reads a temporary file with the data needed to insert.)
Yes this is hokey... but it works, and i didn't want to spend another hour or two figuring out why perl was having issues.
I don't rewrite code. I generally just write a method in php to do something that might need to be repeated somewhere else. Its simple, its basic programming.
Oh of course put in a few If statements into pages to account for the varying issues between browsers. But if you enable some cool feature using some cutting edge browser, and then rewrite it in some non-cutting edge form, you are doing twice the work, and i sure the hell know my employer won't pay me to do something twice no matter how cool it is.
Who cares if it supports every known web browsing extension available. You arn't going to find sites that use the more fun extensions until IE does. Webdesign still has to be done to the lowest level for maximum compatability with users, which is now IE 6.0.
I hate this, but its true. If you design something that looks great in Firefox/Opera/Other superior browser, if it doesn't work in IE then thats 85% of the people on the internet that can't/won't use the website.
In Server you can create/edit the machines for free just as in workstation.
Then was their GSX Server equal to their workstation product? And if so why are they charging $189 for a workstation product when Server now does the same thing?
A year ago i used the trial vmware workstation for a while, i liked it, but i wasn't willing to pay the cash to keep it. Just recently VMWare released VMWare Server which works on my XP Pro machine and appears to be a rebranded VMWare Server 5.0 that I used a year ago, for free.
We have big 1000 lbs safes to store stuff where I work. I had a task of moving one with a refrigerator dolly/handtruck. The handtruck broke (thin solid rubber tires got pinched in half by the rim and the floor). We still needed to move the safe. I found a 6' long 1" thick wooden dolly, broke it in pieces and rolled the safe around like a giant stone in egypt.
I belive he was saying that he wasn't connected at the time... he wanted to play his game.
This would be a big deal for laptop junkies who may save the gaming for long flights and may be havn't started steam in a while.
Incorrect, RPGs can be played single player, I.e balder's gate, diablo.
The correct statement should be its not an ORPG or MMORPG because there are no other people.
On this note, shouldn't we ban talking to your passenger? Isn't that just as distracting?
What about eating food while driving from McDonalds or your drive through of choice?
I know lets ban people from driving because we are inherintly imperfect and will wreck no matter what we are or arn't doing.
Myself; i generally use 4 languages:
.NET that I can only guarantee will work flawlessly on 50% of the boxes we use; they generally go my way.
Java: End User Applications; web based apps with WebStart (portability between OSes)
PHP: Simple Web Based stuff (mainly mapserver interfaces)
Python (Zope): More complex websites that need integration to survive (can't beat the stack in Zope)
Perl: simple shortcut scripts to parse text into databases. (You can't replace a language meant to parse text as well as perl does; but the learning curve is a pain to get there).
Occasionally i will have a limit placed on the language; but when the numbers are shown for me showing them the cost of me doing the learning curve to say write a gui application in
Yes, I did it to a system built off of Linux From Scratch and was almost done with the build process about ready to reboot and load the new system for the first time... 15 hours of work down the drain.
this should be good enough reason right here not to run as root.
./
/
/boot & /etc were the first things rm'ed
rm -rf
and btw, i didn't press the . hard enough cause i was typing really fast so it ended up looking like this:
rm -rf
oh and btw,
Umm, sorry to say, I don't know anyone who has been imprisoned in my family more than a night when they were a kid for breaking curfew or some other odd tiny rule.
Just a little bit of stats on my family tree, my Dad's side of the family has 11 brothers and sisters, and my moms has 4. that means out of 13 aunts & uncles ZERO have been in jail for anything larger than a youth related offense. Excluding one of my uncles who went AWOL during his training during the Vietnam war. Also the same uncle got busted for drugs and a few other offenses since then, but who's counting.
Antialiasing, showing real widths of roads, or at least aproximate widths of roads.
But its easily the slowest online mapping tool i have seen so far, or maybe its just slashdot slowing it down.
I remember seeing it a while ago also, just tried this new version, and its better on the controls, but you can't use the windows in the sphere, so its almost useless. Ya it looks pretty, ya it lets you see the windows in perspective, but you to do something small on one of them, you have to take it out of the sphere and on the actual desktop. So you can't have anything useful in the background.
Its pointless right now, gimme a 3d environment where i can actually use the windows in it, and i'll buy me a machine to run it, till then later.
It also does to sol.exe (Solitare).
You know, i installed solaris 10 on my system to test it out... 30 minutes later it was running... 15 minutes later it was hosting basic web pages... Solaris is easy to use, and I don't care how competent a sysadmin is on one system, if you ever have to replace your competent one with someone else no matter what resume's say, if you are used to one level of competency and then you go off and change that competent person, the competency level drops.
So that means a system like Solaris that if you have basic *nix knowledge is extremly easy to pick up. Hell look at the containers... they are pretty sweet. ZFS awesome. And guess what they are will to GIVE IT AWAY. My god, and you people want to bitch at them. Since when is giving something away that is top of the line *nix software a bad thing. Yes they have licensing issues at the moment thinking about switching to a GPL... but comon, Solaris does things right. They have learned from theirs and others mistakes. Look at Java, when people complain about something enough they do what they cna to fix it. Java 1.5 has a new Swing L&F to support winxp. It looks nearly native now, we bitched, they fixed.
I have never been a Sun fan, I have never really liked java much, but when does a company have to do things right to get the minorities support, not make money?
I don't understand some days. Software can be written great. It can be written flawlessly. And how fucking hard is it to say 1+1 = 2? Ok so you may have to keep track of each vote. Thats where a database comes in. But seriously people, how fucking hard is it to write a piece of software with a touch screen that breaks? Ok... lets see touch screen passes point on screen to software. Software translates point into multiple different regions representing the intended vote. Software then confirms vote with voter. Voter leaves booth. Voter enters booth, voter touches screen a few times, voter leaves booth. I mean no shit, I could design using PC hardware and a touch screen, a pretty unbreakable, unproblematic voting machine. And you know how long it would take me to do it... 6 months. The first month is all planning. The second month is design. Third month is redesign/replanning. Fourth final design. Month Five, guess what fixing small bugs, which shouldn't be a big problem with the proper planning. Month Six, taking the machine out on the public and letting them try to break it. Find elderly people at a retirement home let them test it for ease of use and understanding. Take it to corporate america and let them see if it will let them vote fast enough.
Now here is the kicker... using fiber optic cabling, port security enabled on switch, and 5 redundant counting mechanism on 3 different machines, two machines which are off site. Oh and guess what... all I need to communicate between the site and the servers offsite is a 56k modem. Why so small bandwidth? Because passing votes around doesn't require much bandwidth... its not a movie or even streaming audio, its text, that would of course be encrypted using massive shared keys. So phone tapping won't work, shit, I will go ahead and implement an error checking mechanism ontop of the already existing modem error checking. Why can companies no do simple things simply. I bet a good portion of those machines are running windows... why because windows sounds good. Hell, I can remember a touch screen on Apple IIe computers, we can use one of them for our clients. They had modems for those... We can do some rudimentary encryption and error checking on them.... whats wrong? Afraid of using older simpler hardware to do a simple task.
Oh well, I got to rant, now I wonder if this will be modded troll or interesting.