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Google Launches Mapping Service

Alex Reynolds writes "The beta version of Google Maps is now online, offering an alternative to Mapquest with what some might describe as a very much improved user interface, offering a cleaner layout, drop shadows, clickable waypoints and keyboard controls that allow you to move and zoom the map. For IE and Firefox/Mozilla at this point (no Safari or Opera support, as yet)."

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  1. It's all coming together now. by bigtallmofo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    GoogleMaps + AdSense + Google Local = Massive profits for Google and a fantastic customer experience.

    I knew the folks at Google were smart, but...

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    1. Re:It's all coming together now. by G-Licious! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe I just misinterpreted this, but people always sound so negative to me, when Google yet again reveals some neat feature that seems to give the competition a run for their money.

      You mentioned yourself:

      GoogleMaps + AdSense + Google Local = Massive profits for Google and a fantastic customer experience.

      It's all good, in my opinion. Google is, as far as I know, not a monopoly, not going to be a monopoly or even thinking about it. They're putting a product on the market, and fairly competing with it. If they can keep up the fantastic customer experience, I won't stop them personally.

      It actually isn't all that fantastic to me, atleast not until they have some detailed maps of the Netherlands. It sure looks promising, though. ;)

    2. Re:It's all coming together now. by HaveBlue34 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I, for one, look forward to paying a hefty fee for google's services once they are complete. This is simply too much good stuff to remain a free service. I can see the future where I can look up 'coffee shops,' map them out locally, visit their sites, submit a review, and create a map with waypoints to each one, while avoiding heavy traffic. I would be willing to pay quite a bit for this type of service. Sure would make moving to a new city easy, no trouble at all to find good local car repair shops, coffee, etc.
      Most of this functionality exists out on the web (epinions, maps with traffic, yellow pages, etc) but Google is going to be the one that ties it together seamlessly.
      Eventually you will be able to search by product(s) and find who has them in stock, for the cheapest price, near your house, in real time. Cool.

    3. Re:It's all coming together now. by ParticleGirl · · Score: 1

      At least some of this you can already do on Google Maps. Try typing "coffee shops in Philadelphia" and you get everything listed in the phone book, links, directions, etc. I don't see traffic built in, but I LOVE being able to find every blockbuster video in Oakland, etc. It's so convenient.

      Interesting and Creative Use Department: A friend who is moving to Pittsburgh is looking at house listings and doesn't know where various neighborhoods in Pittsburgh are located. She searches Google Maps for Squirrel Hill, Pittsburgh or for Bloomfield, Pittsburgh and she gets a good rough idea of the location and extent of a NEIGBORHOOD. Now that's cool.

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    4. Re:It's all coming together now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I knew the folks at Google were smart, but."

      Actually you are wrong, Google couldn't be dumber.

      "Your browser is not supported by Google Maps just yet."

      Browsers displays simple HTML text and images worked just fine for the last 20 years, what is the problem TODAY!!! That's right, inane web designers created the problem, they destroyed the Intareweb with this "it works on my browser" attitude. How about displaying simple text and images when the website detect a broswer with JavaScript disabled instead of displaying a blank page.

      I had high respect for Google, I though they were hiring geniuses in there. Now I feel like planting a bomb in their office to clean the gen pool off these retarded web design monkeys.

    5. Re:It's all coming together now. by alphakappa · · Score: 1

      Not only are they smart, they know how to create the most painless user experience. For example, if you do a local search, it puts those tiny bubbles over the locations returned, and if you just click on any link, it scrolls smoothly and shows the exact location. It is hard to believe that it is a browser app, and not a desktop one. Google is really pushing the limits of what people believe is possible with just a browser.

      On top of it, the maps generated are the cleanest maps I have ever seen. On mapquest and yahoo, if you try to find a route, it puts an ugly fat curve showing your route that obscures everything in the way. Google puts a line within the street that actually gives you an idea of how to travel down the road. Very neat, and very very very impressive!

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    6. Re:It's all coming together now. by sconeu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, but does it send you on a tour of Europe just to go north a few hundred kilometers?

      If it doesn't, then I'm sticking with MSN Maps!

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    7. Re:It's all coming together now. by Emperor+Igor · · Score: 1

      You probably chose the "scenic route" option. ;)

    8. Re:It's all coming together now. by Erwos · · Score: 1

      "It's all good, in my opinion. Google is, as far as I know, not a monopoly, not going to be a monopoly or even thinking about it. They're putting a product on the market, and fairly competing with it. If they can keep up the fantastic customer experience, I won't stop them personally."

      Microsoft didn't start as a monopoly, you know. They were competing fairly with everyone. The problem was when they got into a position to leverage that, they did.

      Google is a publicly-owned company. Their current business strategies last as long as their current board of directors does. Do not fool yourself into thinking that "oh, they're different".

      -Erwos

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    9. Re:It's all coming together now. by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      Google might be able to wave a stack of patents at competitors, but they do not have the lock on distribution channels that Microsoft has. Possibly they could even strong-arm OEMs into including only google on the desktop, but unlike installing a new OS, going to another portal is just a URL away. Finally, unlike Microsoft's early competitors, Google's competitors like Yahoo and MSN aren't sitting on their hands either.

      I have zero doubt that Google, as a publicly traded company, will become evil, despite their motto. However, I don't think they're in any position to corner a majority of online service markets. I suspect far more people read Yahoo news than Google news, for example...

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    10. Re:It's all coming together now. by E+Galois · · Score: 1

      I feel a great disturbance in the force - as if dozens of mapquest-like sites cried out in anguish, and were suddenly silenced...

    11. Re:It's all coming together now. by Kevin+Mitnick · · Score: 1

      I really like this

    12. Re:It's all coming together now. by extensis · · Score: 1
      Try looking for something in Whistler, or find my place in Edmonton,
      Darn americans still think anyone north of vancouver/toronto/montreal still doesn't have internet/power/fire etc...

      ugh...

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    13. Re:It's all coming together now. by jseale · · Score: 1

      MSN's 'Maps & Directions' site is more my speed but this is an excellent attempt on Google's part. 'Maps & Directions' is basically an online version of Microsoft's 'Streets & Trips' app. That and Google's offering both make MapQuest suck.

    14. Re:It's all coming together now. by NumberGod · · Score: 1

      Gee, if this is what represents state of the art maps in the USA, you guys are in for a BIG surprise.

      If you just keep travelling in a straight line, you'll eventually discover something the rest of us call "The rest of the world"

      It's a nice start, but it's NOWHERE near complete.

      NG.

  2. Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    They seem to have the directions to take on Microsoft

    1. Re:Google will never stop... by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yea but they will never catch them if you use Microsoft Directions they will bring you to i90 North!!!! Well it seems they may have fixed it, but I remember when Microsoft bought out map-blast (my old favorite) I remember getting quite loss with their directions with them telling me to to take an even Interstate North (All even interstate goes East and West) and on the side roads they told me to go East when I needed to go west. And they for the longest time decided not to give Exit Numbers! But I just checked it out it seems that it was corrected.

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    2. Re:Google will never stop... by essreenim · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Yeah, maybe they will find a way to introduce Googlex - the competitor to MS Windows

    3. Re:Google will never stop... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, Google will soon become a search engine legend, after topping the chart for a long time. They have the key to success, let's hope they can scale this service up so we can all feel that feeling of elevation, like the one I got from playing The Silent Cartographer in Halo for the first time. This is a true landmark in search engine technology. I feel so giddy with excitement that I'm losing my orientation! I need the contours of a hot woman to offer me some relief!

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    4. Re:Google will never stop... by luvirini · · Score: 5, Funny

      well, microsoft gives nice driving instructions for Europeans atleast: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/24/msn_drivin g_instructions/

    5. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      Thats nothing. Try this on for size:
      I don't know how long it will be before someone at MSN notices that a whole lot of people are interested in this trip; this has appeared on many newsgroups already.
      1. http://mappoint.msn.com/DirectionsFind.aspx
      2. Plan a trip from Haugesund, Norway to Trondheim, Norway
      3. Laugh
      Shamelessly quoted from an ASR posting.
    6. Re:Google will never stop... by distributed · · Score: 1

      Damn !! and the website is still working so goddamn smooth... not that its a problem.
      I wonder if we would ever be able to slashdot google, though slashdot can be googled anyday!!

      http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/02/05/001921 8/

      One problem with this is that you cant share a location map with someone else using a URL... or mebbe i am missing something (hope someone corrects me)

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    7. Re:Google will never stop... by Monsieur+Canard · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hey, it's a beta. Have some decaf.

      If you read the help, it says that the ability to save location "is an important feature" and that they are working on it. So what you want may be coming too.

      Of course you could always use the "send feedback" link and request the option to do what you want.

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    8. Re:Google will never stop... by mistered · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I noticed the default was "quickest" and thought there might just be a really slow road that it avoided. But I was pleased to find it's just as funny if you choose "shortest."

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    9. Re:Google will never stop... by kv9 · · Score: 2, Informative

      yes you can. after you do a query the "Link to this page" link from the top-right automagically points to the location.

    10. Re:Google will never stop... by essreenim · · Score: 1
      'find a way' as in 'directions' as in joke. just don't get it do you you little mod muffin :+|

    11. Re:Google will never stop... by mgv · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thats nothing. Try this on for size:

      I don't know how long it will be before someone at MSN notices that a whole lot of people are interested in this trip; this has appeared on many newsgroups already.

      1. http://mappoint.msn.com/DirectionsFind.aspx
      2. Plan a trip from Haugesund, Norway to Trondheim, Norway
      3. Laugh

      Shamelessly quoted from an ASR posting.


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    12. Re:Google will never stop... by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      All google needs for World (well... US anway) Dominance is to learn what side of the street the odd-numbered addresses are. Nothing like getting to your destination and finding strip malls on both sides of you and no clue which one the dinky little storefront is.

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    13. Re:Google will never stop... by FlyingPostman · · Score: 0

      When I tried this is created a route that went through Germany, France, and then the U.K. Even longer.

    14. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this what southerners mean when they say "you can't get there from here?"

    15. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Here's another good one Bennäs - Jakobstad. What makes it even funnier is that Bennäs is the closest train station to Jakobstad, that's one hell of a cab ride into town :)

    16. Re:Google will never stop... by DLWormwood · · Score: 1
      But I was pleased to find it's just as funny if you choose "shortest."

      No kidding. It looks like MSN's mapping system doesn't assign a time or distance cost for ferry trips, so the path finding algorithm thinks they are instant jumps. Microsoft really needs to fix such edges between vertices in their mapping database as being MAXINT or something instead of zero....

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    17. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are already on a roll:

      "Your browser is not supported by Google Maps just yet."

      Can I say... Please Google DIE!!!

      Website who want to display fancy JavaScript or ActiveX, fine with me, but when you detect a browser as not having any of this crap, how about just displaying simple HTML text and images instead of a frigging blank page!!!

      I would expect more intelligence from web design monkeys. Especially at Google, I though they were hiring geniuses in there?

    18. Re:Google will never stop... by maddskillz · · Score: 1

      The directions it gave were still not very good for me. For example, a trip that streets and trips foudn a way that is 400 km, google foudn a version that's 550km. Of course, the google way is all on the main highways, and the streets and trips was on local highways, but at least I was given the ability to make that choice in streets and trips

    19. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, there are plenty of examples like that all around the places which are mapped, Finland being one example :)
      I don't use mapquest's trip finder to anything since their algorithm is so buggy (if you would just follow the directions without seeing the map you would be quite seriously fucked :)

    20. Re:Google will never stop... by hacker · · Score: 1

      But have you ever tried driving those roads? Trust me, its easier (and faster) to take the longer way around as indicated there, than to take the more-direct route.

      Ask anyone that lives near that area, and they'll confirm it.

      The service isn't broken, its doing exactly what you've asked it to do; giving you the shortest (in terms of time) route to the destination.

    21. Re:Google will never stop... by radish · · Score: 1

      Err no. You can choose whether you want quickest or shortest (distance). It gives the same braindead route for both.

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    22. Re:Google will never stop... by Technetium+Web · · Score: 1

      interestingly enough, if you reverse the direction it gives you a much more correct route without any ferrys or international borders and takes only 10 hours rather than 47 hours. maybe there's a lot of one way streets?

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    23. Re:Google will never stop... by thedustbustr · · Score: 1
      It looks like MSN's mapping system doesn't assign a time or distance cost for ferry trips, so the path finding algorithm thinks they are instant jumps. Microsoft really needs to fix such edges between vertices in their mapping database as being MAXINT or something instead of zero....
      Wow, aren't you smart.
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    24. Re:Google will never stop... by Aero · · Score: 1

      My 15 minutes of Internet fame ran out several years ago because of something like this.

      My then-wife needed the exact distance from our house to BWI Airport (about 20 miles) for an expense report. Mapquest wasn't cooperating that day for some reason, so we tried Expedia. The route it gave us sent us on a 9-day trip through Nova Scotia. I had the presence of mind to grab a copy of the generated route and submit it to RHF, as I couldn't duplicate the problem.

      However, though I couldn't duplicate it, I did get a few emails in the weeks following the post from people who had had similar problems, including one guy who was sent from Minnesota to Tennessee by way of the same town in Nova Scotia.

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    25. Re:Google will never stop... by RalphLeon · · Score: 1

      Sadly enough, it seems that we slashdoted Microsofts maps.

      Now how am I going to get from Haugesund to Trondheim to visit my half friends brother!

    26. Re:Google will never stop... by caswelmo · · Score: 1

      Right on, sister.

      And why in the world would they release as a finished product something that never went through Beta testing? I mean, Beta is the time and place to get feedback from users about this kind of thing. Beta is when you discover little bugs in your program from thousands of people using it. Beta is the time you test out new and advanced features of your product before packaging it up nicely for everyone to be able to use.

      Idiots! They should just have released to Beta first. Oh wait...

    27. Re:Google will never stop... by NerdHead · · Score: 0

      Apparently, a Microsoft programmer has seen how Norwegians drive. :)

    28. Re:Google will never stop... by SnprBoB86 · · Score: 1

      Microsoft's mappoint.com works well. I prefer it over switchboard.com and mapquest.com because it offers the excellent "line drive" feature for driving directions

      I am having some difficulty getting Google's to work (it just says "Loading..." and then there are javascript errors on the page), but I am sure it works great.

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    29. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Driving halfway across the atlantic ocean takes less time? Man, those roads must really suck. I better go prepare some oil drums to stick underneath my car.

    30. Re:Google will never stop... by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      For your convenience, Starbucks is located on both sides of the street. :)

    31. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Loser - that story is WAY old. Get a life.

    32. Re:Google will never stop... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, he is. Now STFU.

    33. Re:Google will never stop... by zobier · · Score: 1

      I furled it in case it goes away (you need to be signed in to furl for the link to work).

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    34. Re:Google will never stop... by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Funny thing: I did a bit of googling for this snafu, and found a comment that Microsoft had noticed the problem and fixed it in Feb 2005. It seems that their fix didn't last.

      (This is, of course, a well-known sort of event in the history of Microsoft patches, which have often been undone by later patches. They're not the only ones who have had this problem, but they seem to be more afflicted by it than most others. ;-)

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  3. Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Goose+In+Orbit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What about the rest of the planet?

    1. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Sandmann · · Score: 3, Funny

      > What about the rest of the planet?

      What, BOTH of them?

    2. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by MaestroSartori · · Score: 4, Informative

      Those of us outside the US can sometimes get good map stuff from http://www.multimap.com

      Better than this US-only shit, even if it doesn't cover everywhere at least its slightly more ambitious in its scope...

    3. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's the first thing I thought. It showed a map of the USA, so I tried scrolling right, only to find that the USA really is the whole world. Imagine my surprise! I owe a lot of Americans apologies for daring to doubt them.

    4. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by imr · · Score: 2, Funny

      well, they will have to put some kind of extension for irak and the tiny island state in Europe, what's its name already?

    5. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by plsavaria · · Score: 2, Funny

      For once, Québec is included in the USA. What a nice mapping service!

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    6. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by ^switch · · Score: 1

      There is also http://www.maporama.com/. It has an impressive list of countries, and large (selectable size) maps.

      The accuracy appears to differ depending on the country.
      However, I've been using it for Australia and find it more accurate than any alternative I know of.

    7. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      If you're outside the U.S. and planning a route, I'd be wary of MSN's MapPoint service

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    8. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by DarkSarin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      don't forget about Israel.

      Sorry folks, though, I just DON'T have much sympathy on this point. Here's why: the US has a NUMBER of mapping services, and extensive maps available at this time. Although very us-centric, Google knows their audience, and will probably put maps for other parts of the world on localized versions of the site (eg, maps.google.co.uk or mapas.google.pt). That would make much more sense than trying to give a map for the entire world on a single page.

      Second, this is still only BETA. It is GOOD, but it is only BETA. Expect additional countries to surface as it approaches full utility.

      Finally, Google IS a US-based country. It wouldn't make much sense for them to start with Ethopia, now would it? Should they have included Canada or Mexico? Perhaps, but what they have is pretty impressive as it is. Give them TIME.

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    9. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1
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    10. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by huge+colin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Better than this US-only shit..."

      <sarcasm>
      Yes, I'm sure the maps are US-only for awful, vindictive reasons, and not because of simple economics.
      </sarcasm>

      Grow up.

    11. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Snopes says the bug is fixed, but on my computer here its still giving the wildly innacurate directions.

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    12. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by jrumney · · Score: 4, Funny

      There be dragons!!!!

    13. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Er, no. UK != England, try reading the link that you posted.

    14. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by hcob$ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Somehow, I think Google wants to start with maps of the US since it costs less to store just US data, and they now have shareholders(with shares going $200+ per pop) to answer to. I wouldn't be suprised if they expanded later on to include more of the world, but come on. It's just good business sense to test the waters with relatively cheap product that develop the super product that costs way too much to manufacuture and no one would use ALL the features.

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    15. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by AllUsernamesAreGone · · Score: 1

      Airstrip 1. Sometimes known as Blairland or the UK.

    16. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

      <pedant>
      Endland != United Kingdom
      England [SUBSET] United Kingdom
      </pedant>

      Even if Greater London on it's own has a greater population than Scotland, Wales and Nortern Ireland put together, IIRC.

      /English, but gets pissed off when people use England for the entire UK anyway. (Or using the Union Jack for "England")

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    17. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by rsidd · · Score: 1

      And if you're outside the US and Europe too, try Maporama...

    18. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by HeghmoH · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What the hell is wrong with you people? It's new, it's beta and it's made by an American company. It's not going to shine your shoes and make you coffee on the first day it's out there. It's an incredibly cool app, and I'm sure they'll expand its scope in the future.

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    19. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut up and eat your Big Mac you ungrateful bastard!

      (kidding here..)

    20. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Epistax · · Score: 3, Funny

      Now now, you can clearly see Canada's road.

    21. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by yabos · · Score: 1

      Well, it's not exactly US only cause I can zoom in to my street in Ontario.

    22. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by pjt33 · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's all right. I'm used to maps not working too well in Lynx.

    23. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      Er, no. That's the 'joke' - you know, how the type of American described in the parent might refer to the UK or GB as just England? I am fucking British, you know.

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    24. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by hcob$ · · Score: 1

      Oh damn, and I REALLY wanted to work for the devil.....

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    25. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      /English too

      Clicky

      I guess the tongue sticking out wasn't enough of a clue :)

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    26. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by dspeyer · · Score: 1
      It's only a Beta product, I suspect they'll do something about that before they launch.

      Street-by-street maps with long/lat may be difficult to get for large parts of the world, however. The US data is already in databases. Admittedly, Europe, Japan, Australia and Israel probably have databases as well, so Google could just put up the five places that have this data, and use something weaker (inference from satellite data?) for the rest of the world. Or maybe just wait until the data becomes available.

      Whatever they do, I doubt they'll just give up on it though. They know there's a whole wold out there, and they won't stop until they index every last bit.

    27. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Strange. Looks very similar to this service: http://map.search.ch/

    28. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by RossGoodman · · Score: 1

      My fav map at the moment is http://www.map24.co.uk It covers the UK and the US (does that mean global coverage ?) It also has some neat features, like dragging the map and my fav. the space-rocket, where you can quickly zoom out then back in again to get a perspetive on where you are !

    29. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by wjsteele · · Score: 1

      What about the rest of the planet?

      Why doesn't a company in your country build a mapping product for your country? Why is it that no matter what a US company does, someone complains. Get over it and do the work yourself for once.

      Why should we do all the work for you??? Especially in a darn BETA product!

      Bill

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    30. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by iamwahoo2 · · Score: 1
      You are free to develop whatever type of -only shit that you please if you feel that there is a market for it.

      Or maybe Google only has the US because it is the easiest data to obtain and this is just in beta.

    31. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by skubeedooo · · Score: 1
      I agree with your general point about there being no malicious intent, but why do you think that it is cheaper to store US data than, say, European data?

      As it happens, Europe has actually been mapped out...i know because i saw them on the walls in the vatican. There were lots of pictures of dragons and serpents...but i'm sure google has the technology to filter these out. But perhaps you are right "no one would use all the features", after all, most people don't travel more than 10 miles from their house in their whole lifetime since we haven't invented the automobile over here yet. Without being able to travel, who needs a map?

    32. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      everything from google and all other companies seems to be 'only beta' nowadays.

      doesn't change the fact that it's public - meant for public use and out in the open - in other words: a release.

      'beta' has just turned into a scapegoat word that you can slap on anything to make people not complain as much.

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    33. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by james_marsh · · Score: 1

      Finally, Google IS a US-based country.

      Wow, it sure has grown quickly.

    34. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 1

      thank you! somebody needed to say it.

    35. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by hachete · · Score: 4, Funny

      > Finally, Google IS a US-based country.

      It'll be getting it's own flag and army next.

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    36. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by labtec6 · · Score: 1

      They also have maps of Canada as well.

      But has anyone else found the driving directions don't work in Firefox? It works fine in IE. Just tried it for Canada listings though.

    37. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by phaze3000 · · Score: 1

      I live in England and often refer to GB as England - at least, I used to whenever my Scottish house-mate was around... :)

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    38. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by iamwahoo2 · · Score: 1
      Because the vast majority of our data is available to the public for free (can even be downloaded) and because of this and the fact that there is a slightly better market for the US service which is what drove companies like navteq which has the best database to make primarily US only data.

      Navteq is not giving anything away for free, so if you are Google, what would you do for a beta/startup period? Use a country who's data may cost more and be lower quality and probably draw less web traffic, or stick with the U.S. data?

    39. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Nuskrad · · Score: 0, Redundant
      Finally, Google IS a US-based country. Wait, Google is a country now? Actually, wouldn't suprise me all that much.

      I apologise. Feel free to mod me down.

    40. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by cybersaga · · Score: 1
    41. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by wellard1981 · · Score: 1

      Technically you're a British Citizen, but your nationallity is either English, Irish, Scottish or Welsh.

    42. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by kherrick · · Score: 0

      Seems they have Canada too. Maybe your respective country should submit map data to the parent company of this map software... hmmm...

    43. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better than this US-only shit

      So a US company decides to make a tool about US maps, but gets slamed for not including the rest of the world. It's bad enough that the US government is expected to babysit the rest of the world, now US companies are expected to cover for lazy foreign companies too!!
      "We hate America, we hate America" ... something bad happens... Please help us, why aren't you evil Americans helping us???

      Sorry for trolling, just saying what others think.

    44. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

      I wish I didn't take ten minute to make forum posts, somebody always gets there before me. And I make a fool of myself anyway.

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    45. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by zhiwenchong · · Score: 1

      It actually works for Canada. I plotted a route from my house to another Canadian city... no problems. It's just that the provinces are not delineated in the map. Mapping works fine.

    46. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by fatalb7 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Calm down.
      Can someone just say it's funny they warn you about not supporting some browsers but don't mention the rest of the world without you taking the gun of the shelf?
      It's funny you can scroll to the rest of the world and fint it empty too.
      Why should we do all the work for you???
      We? You worked on it?

      Looks like they represented the world exactly like in your own mind...

      Oh, there's map services in Europe too, btw. Google for it ;)

      P.S: Sorry for my english, I live in the blue area.
    47. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by kloidster · · Score: 0

      The acquisition of Keyhole has made the maps possible. In fact, the way Google maps behaves is reminiscent of how Keyhole's software operates. I think it will be in no time that other foreign nations will have access to the same type of information that we have in the US.

    48. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The USA is the world! Canada, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Japan, & Iraq will be the 51st,52nd, 53rd, 54th, and 55th states and not necessarily in that order. Get use to it!

    49. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Jugalator · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Second, this is still only BETA. It is GOOD, but it is only BETA. Expect additional countries to surface as it approaches full utility.

      Or, like many other Google services, expect the development of the service to halt as they announce the beta, forever staying in the same beta stage.

      Google News?
      Google Desktop Search?
      Google Local Search?
      Google Scholar?
      Google Personalized Search?
      Google Video?

      Not really complaining, many of those services are great, I just think I'm seeing where this service will be in the next year. Basically where it is now. Hopefully I'm wrong though, since I don't live in the USA. :-)

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    50. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by dave420 · · Score: 1

      both of you?

    51. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by ONOIML8 · · Score: 1

      Odd, I was just looking at what I thought was a Canadian province on there. I guess I didn't get the memo that we took them over.

      What a relief that will be. The US Customs guys are the rudest bastards I've ever met and now I won't have to deal with them when I come home.

      Thanks AC!

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    52. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by msheppard · · Score: 1

      One reason mapping services provide US only coverage is becuase the DATA for mapping is FREE for the US. The government makes it public.

      M@

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    53. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by ambienceman · · Score: 1

      I agree. And judging by Google's history, they seem to be the company that will empathize with the global domain. They ARE a search engine (THE search engine), so they have an idea of how many queries go for international maps.

    54. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by generic-man · · Score: 1, Funny

      Knowing Google, it will be in beta for years. People will insist that it's the best, even though it's in beta and how dare you criticize a beta product.

      How can you be so sure they'll "expand its scope in the future"? Google News has stayed the same for three years without any customizability or flexibility (I want info on MY sports teams, not the world's most popular teams).

      Oh crap. I just criticized a Google service. Better bring on the lies about how beta is a legally-binding term, and that it's good for Google to never release anything as a final version.

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    55. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by malex · · Score: 1

      I suggest to take a look at http://www.viamichelin.com/, it allows good map navigation with Firefox too.

    56. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by saforrest · · Score: 1

      What about the rest of the planet?

      I was with you in the righteous indignation until I discovered they did actually include Canada, even if they didn't label the provinces. Zoom in and you'll see a bunch of Canadian cities.

      Oddly, though, Kitchener-Waterloo does not appear on the map, even though they have Guelph, Cambridge, and even St. Jacobs and St. Agatha.

      Instead the significant urban area between St. Jacobs and Cambridge is simply marked "Woodside National Historic Park". Which exists, it's true, but it's kind of like replacing 'New York City' on a map with 'Central Park'.

      Maybe some Google coders are embittered University of Waterloo graduates who want the place swept off the map?

    57. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nope, technically you're a british _subject_ 'cause the queen is still the head of state.

    58. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by aurb · · Score: 1

      Hmm... There's no Europe on this map... That's it, I'm moving to USA or Canada. You konw, just in case...

    59. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't forget that US GIS data is generally freely copyable. If your country doesn't have similar services, blame your government for not making its GIS data available.
      -russ

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    60. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by ded_guy · · Score: 1

      Finally, Google IS a US-based country.
      Well, they've got an economy (Google Ads/Froogle) and an educational system (Google Scholar/Answers), but aren't you exaggerating just a bit?

      </sarcasm>

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    61. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by novakyu · · Score: 2
      Google News?

      Hmm, at first I thought, "Wait a minute, that's not beta. It's on the front page." But no, I was wrong: the logo clearly says beta.

      But then, maybe Google is marking any 0.95 or even 0.99 versions as beta, until they are ready to release it into version 1 and really stop developing (er, bug-catching), until the Next Big Thing.

      IMHO, I find perpetual beta status better than premature "official" releases (*coughwindowsmecough*): at least they are being honest.

      And much of Google Beta stuff is usable as it is, isn't it? Where as some of the "official" releases is not (*coughwindowsmewindowssystemrecoverycough*).

    62. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It has Puerto Rico.... or is that an American state nowadays?

    63. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Razzberry28 · · Score: 1

      Should they have included Canada or Mexico?

      Canada is included. I found my house and my workplace. My house was quite impressive actually since I live in a town of less than 2000. Nice to see they have Canada covered anyways.

    64. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Kupek · · Score: 1

      Considering that it's free, I don't think people have grounds to complain. In this case, and in others, they need to do extensive testing before it's non-Beta. How else can you do that without releasing it?

    65. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by DrXym · · Score: 1

      Or Maporama. Much better than MapQuest, offers customizable sizes and has very comprehensive maps for most of the world.

    66. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cry me a river; it just came out, it's a beta, and Google is a US-based corp. If [insert Eurocentric corporation here] released a first-offering of this sort with only European coverage, you wouldn't be whining. I'm as blunt as the next guy when it comes to discussing true US mistakes/failings/egocentrism, but you, sir, are only about a notch up from trolling here.

    67. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Issue9mm · · Score: 1

      So what? Who cares how long it's in beta for? Some of us prefer the tactic of waiting until they're comfortable that the product is ready for prime time before pushing it out the door.

      Also, while google news may not have had any recent developments (I don't know, don't really use it), gMail is getting improvements all the time.

      -9mm-

    68. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      Works fine for me -- Firefox 1.0 and Win XP SP2. I mapped out my commute from work to home and it's perfect, the exact route I take (other map sites seem to give really strange directions at times). This test was in the Toronto area, btw.

    69. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      Google's Beta stuff is usually better than most companies production stuff.

    70. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor Google, not having enough money to design an accurate map of the world. I saw more accurate maps of the world made by individuals in their free time. Poor Google.

      *Hint* You don't have travel around the world anymore to design a map, the governements in each countries will send you the data ready to use. I though Google were geniuses.

    71. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you know? Ontario is now part of USA.

    72. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And much of Google Beta stuff is usable as it is, isn't it?"

      No it isn't.

      "Your browser is not supported by Google Maps just yet."

      It displays a blank page for browsers with JavaScript disabled. At least Microsoft display usable text and images for non-javascript browsers. And I though Google were geniuses.

      Same with Google Groups getting more and more unusable every day for non-javascript browsers, I mean it's just freaking text archived from Usenet, think about it, when you can't read simple text anymore without fancy JavaScript crap, it's scary.

    73. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's a popular myth amongst ignorant Americans who like to feel superior in some way. I can assure you that I am a British citizen.

    74. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Saying something is "beta" is a great way to get out of providing any guarantees or support. If you're going to change something, at least have the balls to say "we changed it" instead of "well, it's beta; it might change at any time."

      I was also under the impression that a "beta" was a limited testing period. I find it hard to confide in companies like ICQ and Google that keep their products in perpetual beta without any word on when (or if) they'll ever be finished.

      If a beta is as good as we can get, then the whole web application market still needs a swift kick in its over-sat ass.

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    75. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, for crying out loud.
      Stop bitching. Why doesnt a non-american company create a mapping site for you folks?

      Why is that the Americans are always dissed for not letting the rest of the world suck from its teets?

      Instead of always bitching, go create what you want.

    76. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Orkut, a lousy Friendster/Tribe clone which is Brazil's #1 source of server errors.

      Orkut is only "in affiliation with Google," but Google mentioned it in a presentation to prospective shareholders, so it's fair game.

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    77. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Bilzmoude · · Score: 1

      Dont be too quick to judge. This is a Beta project. I would hazard a guess that the tool will span the globe, and work in more browsers by the time it is fully released. Could be wrong, but the limiting issues are too big for Google to ignore them and be as successful as they are.

    78. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      IMHO, I find perpetual beta status better than premature "official" releases (*coughwindowsmecough*): at least they are being honest.

      It's not honest, it's anything but. Look at gmail for instance. It's been out for how long? At least a year, and it's still in beta. All those millions of dollars, all those genius PHDs, and in over a year they can't get a simple web-based email system out of beta? I don't buy that. It's not in beta, it's not a preliminary buggy version, they just don't have the gumption to say 'This is a final release'.

      This way they don't have any responsibility for their services. They release them, stick a 'beta' logo in the corner, and if something goes wrong, just say 'well it's in beta!'.

      Most people don't know what beta means. A normal person would assume that if a service was linked to on the front page, that it was a proper, finished service. Keeping something in perpetual beta whilst using it publicly is disgraceful behaviour.

    79. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Could be partially a side effect of going public: I expect that now they're more interested in developing (and finishing up) stuff that's got commercial market potential, as opposed to being merely user-cool.

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    80. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by iamwahoo2 · · Score: 1

      Databasing vector data for the entire world in a fast and usable fashion is not as easy as you may think. Nor is the data always easy to procure.

    81. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      Better than this US-only shit

      Which side of the streets do the WAAAAAAHmbulances drive on in your country?

      What you should be complaining about is the lack of non-US companies that are willing or capable of innovating in the ways that Google has. What's stopping them?

    82. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by 2short · · Score: 1

      Storing the data is no problem. It's really not that big, and by Googles standards it's trivial.

      Getting the data, and massaging it into whatever format they're using, now that's the issue. You can get the data for a lot of countries, and you can massage it all. But in general you get to do all that, from the business deal with someone who has the data through the loading work, seperately for every country, and each country will be roughly the same amount of work, regardless of size. So you're going to start with the country that gets you the most customers.

    83. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 1

      The US publishes geographic data in a variety of weird formats (but they are parsable and are documented), and has done so for some time. Parhaps the reason for more US data on mapping services - it's easier to obtain the data fot it.

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    84. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Illserve · · Score: 1

      Yes, it costs money to buy OS maps of the UK for example. You can't just up and slip that into a beta....

    85. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Saying something is "beta" is a great way to get out of providing any guarantees or support.

      That's why it's in beta! That is what "Beta" means! They have a product, they aren't finished with it, they don't want to support it because it's not done yet and there are bugs.

    86. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to own a, usa made, wall map of the world and the rest of the world was tiny. It dosn't matter now seeing the usa is expanding it's empire. Right I'm off to mcdonalds

    87. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by rob_squared · · Score: 1
      "Finally, Google IS a US-based country"

      I knew google was getting big, but its own *country*? Wow, I'm impressed.

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    88. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Good. Then I don't trust Google News, the new Google Groups, Gmail, or Google Maps. The next time someone suggests I use them, I will forego them in favor of competing services that are complete.

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    89. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by caswelmo · · Score: 1

      Popular? Well, I think pretty much every American likes to feel superior in many ways (I'm one of them) but I've never heard people refer to Brits as Bitish subjects. Can't be that popular.

    90. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Finally, Google IS a US-based country."

      Bloody hell. GoogleOS maybe, but a Google State?

    91. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by retinaburn · · Score: 1

      Of course they do have Canada, but you are EuroCentric.

    92. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by kst · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Why on Earth was it necessary to design this thing to work with any particular browser(s)? It should have been easier to design it to conform to all the applicable web standards; operability with all conforming browsers then comes for free. If IE or Firefox uses some non-standard feature that's not supported by other browsers, you just don't use that feature.

      I'm tired of web sites telling me to "upgrade" my browser to MSIE or Netscape. They should upgrade their web sites to the World Wide Web.

      This message is best viewed from a comfortable chair with a cup of coffee.

    93. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by hcob$ · · Score: 1

      Granted, individual contries do not take up alot of information. However, when you start including every known address across the entire world, plus street changes, and route calculations, how those addresses map to others(say metropolitan New York is actually 5 towns, all under New york). It becomes a massive undertaking and during a beta phase, it's better to do incremental development. So, is it better to start with something you know(USA) and incrementally add more countries? Or does it make more sense to just throw everything into the database from the begining and then start to weed out problems?

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    94. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking as a British citizen, every time I have seen somebody use the words "British citizen" on a place like this, it has *always* been followed up by an ignorant American telling the person that they are a subject not a citizen.

    95. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by VvScythevV · · Score: 1

      Google Beta usually means they are still working on effective ways of making money out of their product. Gmail's number of invites have grown recently which seems like they are willing to let things grow a lot faster now, probably because Google feels confident in how their ad system functions.

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    96. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Come on. Don't you know that every sahara desert folk are looking for maps of their local towns. ;)

    97. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      So google is selling adverts for a BETA service?

    98. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by DarkSarin · · Score: 1

      *ahem* That is to say, Google is a US-based COMPANY.

      My apologies to everyone for the SLIGHT mis-statement. I was typing fast, I am very sleep deprived, and yes, Google is HUGE.

      Oh well.

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    99. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by ashitaka · · Score: 1

      Yes, and it's marked with a US-style highway sign.

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    100. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by labtec6 · · Score: 1

      Same specs for me to. But mine was from Toronto to Brampton. I have just tried it from two address in Toronto, but it just ends up showing me the main maps screen. Odd.

    101. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody cares, least of all Google.

    102. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you mean speaking as a British subject.

    103. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Yes, I'm sure the maps are US-only for awful, vindictive reasons, and not because of simple economics."

      And not due to the complete copyright- and anticompetitive paranoia of other countries' mapping agencies. cough...

      Please don't release your US-gov't-paid data that you have for the rest of the world, otherwise OS might have a competitor...

    104. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by dcam · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if this counts but there is an army of google geeks out there. I don't think they'd get through basic training though.

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    105. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by samuelsidler · · Score: 0

      I concur.

      I just finished an open letter to Google listing all their "beta" services. Google Groups, News, Gmail, Froogle (and wireless), Orkut, Local, Alerts, Catalogs, Scholar, Desktop, Personalized, Site-Flavored Search, Suggest, Video, and now Maps. Yeah. It's a lot. Don't any Google products grow up?

    106. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      But don't forget that Google, as well as Yahoo and MSN buy their mapdata from Navteq, Teleatlas and GDT .

      No serious application uses the free (Census/TIGER , or DOT, or USGS) data sets for much serious work.

      Often commercial apps may use County data, but they often have to pay for that too.

    107. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by fingerfucker · · Score: 1

      Second, this is still only BETA. It is GOOD, but it is only BETA.

      Google labels products 'Beta' if the project is not generating revenue yet.

      Many examples, Froogle comes to mind apart from Google News: you can list your business in Froogle for free for now.

      And what's up with Google maps?? Do you people all ride bicycles on the sidewalk or what?? No one noticed that there is a serious problem with them?

      When I drive and print out the map (with a few adjacent streets just in case I get caught up in traffic or miss a turn), I need to know which streets are one-ways. Google maps don't provide that!

      Obviously, when working out turn-by-turn directions, that information is hopefully there for Google to take into consideration, but it certainly makes it a less valuable product against competitors if they don't display the one-ways.

    108. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by zanderredux · · Score: 1
      Not only it's cheaper to store US data -- I guess it's a lot more easier.

      International addressing is more complicated, since addressing standards varies wildly around the world.

      The worst example I can think of is Korea, where streets do not have a name, except for some high-traffic roads. Locations are determined by the block number and the building number within that block. One could easily create a work around, giving fake names to street, but that's not practical.

      By the way, Google could also work some kind of "international from-to" thingie. Just type the origin and destination in different countries and Google would suggest the directions to drive to and from the airports and a number of flights to connect those cities. That's the end of Expedia!

    109. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Surye · · Score: 1

      Yea, I have 50 invites now... Why the fuck are they assuming I have that many friends. It's depressing ;(

    110. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by $nickname_212 · · Score: 1

      How do we know economics is not awful and vindictive? After all, it keeps food out of peoples mouths. So much for your simple economics and your politically motivated quanlifiers simple, vindictive and awful. What if the reasons are simple and the econimics is not? But wait, you are an expert and authority in this area.

    111. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by huge+colin · · Score: 1

      How do we know economics is not awful and vindictive? After all, it keeps food out of peoples mouths. So much for your simple economics...

      What in god's name are you talking about? You haven't logically demonstrated anything. All you've said is that economics itself is vindictive because people starving can be explained in economic terms.

      But wait, you are an expert and authority in this area.

      And you're evidently a Down-syndrome monkey.

    112. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by $nickname_212 · · Score: 1

      I concede that economics is not a "real" reason. But, if economics is just teminology, then how can that be a reason for why US-only maps were made as you originally asserted? Yes, I'm sure the maps are US-only for awful, vindictive reasons, and not because of simple economics. Here is a revised statement: Yes, I'm sure that food is kept from people for horrible, vindictive reasons, and not because of simple economics. Essentially, to quote you, You haven't logically demonstrated anything. Wow, it looks like you defeated your own assertion that the MODERATORS thought was so clever. Who is the retard now? No wait, you must be a crack monkey. You make an assertion and then contradict it later. Good job, crack monkey. Here's your crack.

    113. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by $nickname_212 · · Score: 1

      Here is a quote from the BBC, "The US, the world's largest polluter, withdrew from the treaty in 2001, citing economic concerns."

      Economics can be a real reason for inaction.

      Why would I have to shoulder more burden of proof than yourself? After all, you are the one that suggests economics may be the reason US-only maps were made.

      I have an idea. I will repost your reply to me as a reply to yourself, dumbass.

      What in god's name are you talking about? You haven't logically demonstrated anything. All you've said is that economics itself is simple because US-only maps can be explained in economic terms.

      Who makes ascertions that they contradict with statements later on? Sounds like a fool to me.

    114. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by huge+colin · · Score: 1

      I have an idea. I will repost your reply to me as a reply to yourself, dumbass.

      "What in god's name are you talking about? You haven't logically demonstrated anything. All you've said is that economics itself is simple because US-only maps can be explained in economic terms."


      That was probably supposed to be clever, but you didn't actually re-post my reply. You changed it. Good show.

    115. Re:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by huge+colin · · Score: 1

      Yes, I'm sure that food is kept from people for horrible, vindictive reasons, and not because of simple economics.

      Food is kept from people because of simple economics. There is no world conspiracy to starve people. Only an idiot would think there was. There is almost nothing in the world that happens simply because of someone being evil, and for no other reason. It may suck that some people don't have the means to get enough food to survive, but the reason for that definitely does not have anything to do with ecnomics being "evil", which is just silly.

      Now are you really going to insist that Google Maps only covering the US is equivalent to deliberately starving people? That seems to be where you're going.

      Who is the retard now? No wait, you must be a crack monkey.

      If you're going to insult me with a comparison to some animal, at least pick a different animal than I used.

  4. World Beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Will have to stick with MapQuest until Google finds out that the rest of the world exists though...

    1. Re:World Beta by mordors9 · · Score: 1

      It all comes down to money. Google isn't going to go to the expense of providing maps for people in unless someone is willing to pay for ads or in some way to provide revenue to Google for doing so.

    2. Re:World Beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will have to stick with MapQuest until Google finds out that the rest of the world exists though...

      It has Canada. Where the hell else do you want to go? :-)

    3. Re:World Beta by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      Or maybe it's beta and google hasn't secured licensing for maps of the entire world to be publicly displayed yet.

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    4. Re:World Beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What expense? Their stock is worth over $250! They have a market cap of around $50 BILLION! And they've already got some maps online. Are you telling me they can't afford to dump maps for the world onto the server they're already running and let people go at it until they come up with their ad model? That's so ridiculous. Please.

    5. Re:World Beta by TylerL82 · · Score: 1

      You're right.
      Google would've been smart to release the beta of Google Maps with just data for Liechtenstein.
      Hey, at least it's not America.

  5. And its only beta! by thewldisntenuff · · Score: 3, Informative

    I gave it a run.....Definitely better than mapquest....Map moves smoothly, instead of having to click and wait for a reload. Nicer interface....

    But how does it work?

    -thewldisntenuff

    1. Re:And its only beta! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...its pure magic...along with their lovely gmail

    2. Re:And its only beta! by Donatas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      they achieve this by using XMLHttpRequest to make requests to the server and get back results via JavaScript. That's why dragging works so great... they do requests to get IDs of new images to show an dthen they start opening them.

    3. Re:And its only beta! by my_haz · · Score: 0

      I don't think its that complicated an application in a techinal sense i would guess most of the R&D resources went into researching useablity and modeling.

      What I would like to see, besides of course mapping the rest of the world, is a feature to click on metro areas and get a map.

      What would be really nice is if google let some wifigeeks do a few custom maps. )(

    4. Re:And its only beta! by buro9 · · Score: 1

      Javascript yet again.

      Very very cool stuff too.

      I can't wait for the dissection of that stuff ;)

    5. Re:And its only beta! by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      Buttloads of javascript.

    6. Re:And its only beta! by frodo+from+middle+ea · · Score: 1
      Yes but it doesn't work with Konqueror .

      Standard Compliance anyone ?

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    7. Re:And its only beta! by mt+v2.7 · · Score: 1

      A modification of Pigeon Rank.

    8. Re:And its only beta! by Goaway · · Score: 1

      ...except you're just regurgitating information from an old Google story that has nothing to do with Google Maps, which doesn't use XMLHttpRequest at all, but instead far simpler DHTML tricks.

    9. Re:And its only beta! by luserSPAZ · · Score: 1
      Mostly it's just smart image tiling. They cut the map up into 128x128 pixel images, and preload a bunch around the edges of the map you're currently viewing. This means that when you're scrolling, the map tiles off the edge of your screen are already loaded. Then of course your browser cache holds the parts of the map you've already seen, so scrolling back to another part of the map works flawlessly. The backend appears to just send an XML file in response to searches etc, and the frontend uses XML parsing and XSLT to grab the location info/search results/etc.

      Image tile

      Notice that you can fiddle with the x and y params to see adjacent tiles. They have some javascript that does Lat/Lon conversion to those tile values, but it's a bit tricky to decipher.

    10. Re:And its only beta! by ceejayoz · · Score: 1
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  7. Amazing advance in technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Drop shadows eh? Wow, marvellous.

  8. US Only at the moment. by minioak · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Any word on if / when this service will include non-US maps?

    1. Re:US Only at the moment. by sosume · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude, I was thinking, like, wow, that's one big ocean!!! I kept scrolling and scrolling in hope to find Europe, must be what Columbus felt like when sailing to America... ;) Are you sure Europe isn't somewhere on that map??

    2. Re:US Only at the moment. by Gallowsgod · · Score: 1, Informative

      It already does. Goto maps and choose a country.

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    3. Re:US Only at the moment. by Kevin_Cedrone · · Score: 1

      There is already a map of Toronto. It's fairly complete and as far as I can tell, accurate too.

    4. Re:US Only at the moment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Care the explain what the hell you're talking about? What exactly does "Goto maps" mean, and where would one "choose a country."?

    5. Re:US Only at the moment. by sosume · · Score: 1

      Hm, I searched for "Germany', 'Amsterdam' and 'Paris' and all three seem to be located somewhere in Kansas ... strange .. (cue: twilight zone melody)

    6. Re:US Only at the moment. by mst · · Score: 2, Funny

      It does? I clicked "maps" and entered "Sweden" into the search box and was informed (by a set of red baloons) that I live somewhere between Tulsa and Kansas City, not in northern Europe as I've always believed.

      Come to think of it, this could explain the unusually warm winters we've had in Sweden lately.

    7. Re:US Only at the moment. by pedestrian+crossing · · Score: 1

      Huh? Maybe I'm too dense to figure out the interface, but I wasn't able to "choose a country". Informative? I don't think so....

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    8. Re:US Only at the moment. by Living+WTF · · Score: 1

      Perhaps someone should give them some hint what the rest of the world looks like.

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    9. Re:US Only at the moment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice troll...

    10. Re:US Only at the moment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To everybody wondering at this fella: I think he's just some dumb American who doesn't know the difference between a country and a US state.

    11. Re:US Only at the moment. by Gallowsgod · · Score: 1

      Well, I'll try again:

      1. On the startpage, click on the Globe icon with the text 'Maps' under it. The icon is posisioned in the upper right corner of the UI.
      2. In the next screen there is a section in the left part of the UI titeled "Map an Address". In this section you should find a selection box with the text "country" just above it. Use this box to select the country you want to see a map of.
      3. Click the 'Get map' button below.

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    12. Re:US Only at the moment. by museumpeace · · Score: 1

      and Poland is in Maine. Naples seems to be both in Florida and Maine...what you find depends on where in the hierarchy you start looking and where that starting point is is usually a default. Its funny: you zoom out to the last click and then hit the pan button. The us, floating all by itself on a planet of water. I think Dubya is gonna love this map.
      Hey, whaddaya want? its a BETA!

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    13. Re:US Only at the moment. by yabos · · Score: 1

      It does already include Canada.

    14. Re:US Only at the moment. by ack154 · · Score: 1

      Hi... I'm Google Maps... have we met?

      WTF are you talking about? There is no Globe Icon that says "maps" and no country selection.

    15. Re:US Only at the moment. by HeghmoH · · Score: 1

      1. On the startpage, click on the Globe icon with the text 'Maps' under it. The icon is posisioned in the upper right corner of the UI.

      There is no Globe icon.

      2. In the next screen there is a section in the left part of the UI titeled "Map an Address". In this section you should find a selection box with the text "country" just above it. Use this box to select the country you want to see a map of.

      There is nothing titled "Map an Address", and nothing that says "country".

      3. Click the 'Get map' button below.

      There is no "Get map" button.

      Care to try again? I don't think you're talking about the same service that the rest of us are.

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    16. Re:US Only at the moment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's the mapquest site you dolt, the google one only has the US

    17. Re:US Only at the moment. by Gallowsgod · · Score: 1

      Well, if you do not find the right icon to click under nr 1, it follows that you can not proceed with nr 2 and nr 3, doesn't it?
      Try here and see if that helps, then go on with 2 & 3

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    18. Re:US Only at the moment. by HeghmoH · · Score: 1

      Read the title: "Google Launches Mapping Service". We're not talking about Mapquest.

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    19. Re:US Only at the moment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well you sure win the award for "Densest Slashdot Poster 2005".

    20. Re:US Only at the moment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you insane ? . You dont even know the difference between a country and a State. Sound like a typical dumb person

    21. Re:US Only at the moment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you a messing on a wrong page

    22. Re:US Only at the moment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can confirm that, I entered Finland into the search box and it is also located somewhere between Tulsa and Kansas City, since I know for a fact that Sweden and Finland are neighbors(I have crossed a border between Finland and Sweden in Tornio/Haparanda), that Google map must be correct!

      Oh, and I really did not appreciate the fact that red balloon c was pointing at
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  9. New World Map by olafc · · Score: 5, Funny

    A preview of the world map after Bush his second term is over :)

    1. Re:New World Map by anpe · · Score: 1

      I live near the "i" of the "Hic sunt leones" sentence :)

    2. Re:New World Map by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 2

      Are you sure? The US is still there.

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    3. Re:New World Map by edudspg · · Score: 4, Funny

      A preview of the world map after Bush his second term is over :)

      You have that backwards. After Bush's term scrolling east will work. ;-)

    4. Re:New World Map by magi · · Score: 1

      Ahh, now I finally understand why he is so much against the Kyoto Treaty. So this is his plan.

      I bet he has a secret wall in the Oval Office that has a bigger version of this map behind.

    5. Re:New World Map by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is a Good Thing. Far better than if that idiot Kerry would've been elected by fools like you.

    6. Re:New World Map by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess I should feel lucky that Canda will still be there...

    7. Re:New World Map by SubtleNuance · · Score: 1

      A preview of the world map after Bush starts his 3rd term.

  10. Pretty nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I tried searching for my hometown, and it didn't even reply! I had to search for New York and scroll to the right a little bit. But I really like the size of the map and the "fast scroll" it has... It's definitely faster than Mapquest, and works great with a good broadband connection.

  11. Incredible by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This may be the most impressive web application I have ever seen. It performs like a local application, incredibly fast and smooth, but it's all coming over the internet and displaying in my web browser. I can browse around the country like I was playing with a photograph! The lack of Safari support is too bad, but they say it's coming soon.

    No, I have nothing constructive to add, just... wow!

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    1. Re:Incredible by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      I agree, no plugins or annoying web crap needed.
      Exactly as you expect from google.
      Clean and simple.

      Except for the rather massive restriction of having USA only (I'm European) its impressive.

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    2. Re:Incredible by Moby+Cock · · Score: 1

      Remeber that Google bought Keyhole which is a sat imaging firm, IIRC. Maybe the next version will have a 'see photo' button. That would blow my socks off.

    3. Re:Incredible by tooloftheoligarchy · · Score: 1

      I concur -- WOW! I predict Mapquest will have closed up shop by lunchtime.

    4. Re:Incredible by Madarco · · Score: 1

      It doesn't seems too fast to me... i think http://www.mappy.com/ is better. Yes it use Flash, but with vector graphics like a map this is the best choice. (and 98% of us have this 400KB plugin)

    5. Re:Incredible by Lars+Arvestad · · Score: 1
      This would have blown me away a couple of months ago, but I have now seen the light that is map24.com! Their maps, shown using a java applet, actually zooms way more smoothly and elegant than these google maps.

      They have localized versions of their system to 18 different countries. In the EU-centric Google portals, searches for city names can also come up with a prominent map24 link.

      If you are interested by maps.google, you really want to check it out! No I am not in any way affiliated with map24.

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    6. Re:Incredible by HeghmoH · · Score: 1

      Oddly, map24 is slower than Google Maps on my computer, and the map goes all pixelized during any scrolling. This may be due to Apple's cruddy Java implementation, though.

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    7. Re:Incredible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes Google really are incredible, just look at all that new technology they can copy

    8. Re:Incredible by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but there's still no option to print maps in black-and-white for us people who only own laser printers. Do you know how HARD reading a giant "purple" line through a map of a cluttered city is when printed in greyscale?

    9. Re:Incredible by cooldev · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Google's UI and rendering technology is far better than map24. A very impressive web app.

      However, in general I'd still rather have a client-side solution such as Streets and Trips.

  12. 800lb gorilla by toddlg · · Score: 1

    Google is going to become the next Microsoft.

    One of these days (if they haven't already) they'll roll out "GOffice" and "GMoney" and "GOS"

    All you'll need is a 'puter, get a GOS CD and broadband connection... good to go.

    1. Re:800lb gorilla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GMoney - Sponsored by 50 'Cent

  13. You can drag the map ! by pepax · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can actually drag the map with your mouse to move the part that's being displayed. Way cool!

    1. Re:You can drag the map ! by mmkkbb · · Score: 1

      weird, with camino the up-down dragging goes backwards!

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    2. Re:You can drag the map ! by mindriot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, it is a very cool interface. Also, it loads incredibly fast, and I think it's probably by far the clearest map rendering I've seen anywhere. Extremely good visual quality.

      For other choices, I still love Map24. They've got Europe and North America, and the whole thing in a neat Java applet that is also very usable. But Google's map is gonna be tough competition for them...

      Also, you gotta love the typically Google way of doing your address or directions queries... just say "Kansas City to Los Angeles" etc. and it works.

      But of course it's still Beta. A simple test for "Wilmington, DE to Jersey City, NJ" in my case renders a misplaced blue line that I can't quite make sense of. But if that's the only problem...

    3. Re:You can drag the map ! by mithras+the+prophet · · Score: 4, Informative

      Noticed that you can also use arrow keys to nudge the map, or page up/down/home/end to smoothly scroll a half-screenful. Very very nice.

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    4. Re:You can drag the map ! by glesga_kiss · · Score: 4, Informative
      You can actually drag the map with your mouse to move the part that's being displayed.

      Yawn. You've obviously not seen map24 then? Java based applet for online vector maps. Pisses all over Mapquest and Googles latest. They won the 2004 Webby for Technological Achievement. Very impressive site. My favourite feature is the rocket button, a zoom-out feature to give you perspective of what you are zoomed-in on. Plus, any map that starts with a continental view and animates into the search address gets my vote. Like the start of the Burb's, but to your own house...

      Plus, is Google maps USA only? Not even Canada? Sheesh!

    5. Re:You can drag the map ! by bigbadwlf · · Score: 3, Informative

      Plus, is Google maps USA only? Not even Canada?

      I'm in Canada and I just zoomed right in on my street.

    6. Re:You can drag the map ! by thatnerdguy · · Score: 1

      Not true. I was able to type in my address in montreal and it found it. Haven't tried to find any other canadian address though.

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    7. Re:You can drag the map ! by Vintermann · · Score: 4, Funny

      Either google maps is north america only, or the atlantic ocean is a lot bigger than I thought.

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    8. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They've got Europe and North America, and the whole thing in a neat Java applet..

      Oh well, you almost had me until you said that word.

    9. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Slashdot reply template #24
      How to reply to a story about a new tool:

      "Yawn. You've obviously not seen [insert tool name here that no-one has ever heard of]."

    10. Re:You can drag the map ! by Pirogoeth · · Score: 1

      You can also double-click on a point to recenter the map. A handy feature as you try to zoom in on a spot.

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    11. Re:You can drag the map ! by phayes · · Score: 1

      I like how the lite & clean interface scrolls quickly too, but I wish I could make the map full screen.

      If you want to see a slick java map applet take a look at the (europe only) www.map24.com. It's slower but can be switched into fullscreen mode, displays hotels & gas stations onscreen, and even lets me quickly calculate road distances onscreen

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    12. Re:You can drag the map ! by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      This is by far the best mapping tool I think I have ever seen (At least at first glance.) Now they just need to have a topo version as well, perhaps a way to switch back and forth. A wireless satalite internet device built into a gps useing this would be an awsome tool.

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    13. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      map24.com is too damn slow. and hello, it's in beta, no one acknowledges Canadians in beta!

    14. Re:You can drag the map ! by sapped · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...and the whole thing in a neat Java applet...

      Which proceeded to crash my Firefox browser. Thanks.

    15. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I got the mysterious blue line as well when mapping St. Louis, MO to New York, NY.

    16. Re:You can drag the map ! by ArsonSmith · · Score: 4, Funny
      Google just got rid of all irrelevant information.
      <preemptive humor impaired apology/>
      Just kidding Geesh lighten up people.
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    17. Re:You can drag the map ! by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pisses all over Mapquest and Googles latest.

      And crashes Firefox for me (v1.0, Win XP Pro).

      Plus, is Google maps USA only? Not even Canada? Sheesh!

      Fercrissake, it's *beta*! Give them time!

    18. Re:You can drag the map ! by jthayden · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's trying to warn you not to go to New Jersey.

    19. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have a look at the norwegian classifieds site: finn.no. They've had mapping: draggable maps, magnification and selectable areas for a number of years now.

      This google maps is old

    20. Re:You can drag the map ! by gmack · · Score: 1

      Indeed.. I zoomed in on my office in St-Laurent and quickly got accurate (better than Mapquest) directions to my apartment. I also had it give me directions to my parents' house in Chilliwack BC with no problem.

    21. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My IP has been banned so I can't reply, you Insensitive CLOD! In Soviet Russia, the new (mapping) tool is YOU!

    22. Re:You can drag the map ! by maddskillz · · Score: 1

      Actually, even cooler was when I tried getting directions...it panned the map to the right section, and drew in the right directions

    23. Re:You can drag the map ! by geordie_loz · · Score: 3, Informative

      If you're under linux and the javavm binary can't be found by the java plugin then Java does present rather a problem.. you need to edit your binary search paths ($PATH) and make sure javavm can be hand then all should be well.. try running firefox from a console and you can get a little information as to why the browser dies..

    24. Re:You can drag the map ! by nherc · · Score: 1

      I just tried both...

      Google's was more user friendly... too much "Saving Position" on Maps24 and clicking the toolbar often moves the map to the spot under where you clicked instead of clicking the button you wanted. Also, the overhead of the Java is unneeded.

      Lastly, my road in CT isn't even on the Map24 map!

      It's a newer road, but it's been here for 4+ years.

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    25. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did the same search from Wilmington, DE to Jersey City, NJ and it worked fine for me. The only issue I saw was that it decided to go with the shortest route instead of the fastest, or one with less turns. Also I believe toll roads are not considered. Besides that it looks like the search went perfect, and their system works.

    26. Re:You can drag the map ! by surprise_audit · · Score: 1

      Loads fast, looks good, and doesn't have the right roads around where I live. There's a whole neighborhood missing... I can't see my house from here...

    27. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When president Bush is going to invade Iran, he can just claim his military is in *beta*! Give him a break. Ya, that's the ticket.

    28. Re:You can drag the map ! by Deluge · · Score: 3, Informative

      Canada's there, once you zoom in - it just lacks the zoomed out detail of the US. (Well, at least the more populated parts of Canada, I didn't try the accuracy of the Yellowknife city map).

    29. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if you're more than a little bit north of the boarder. Looks like the only went up to 50 degrees North...

    30. Re:You can drag the map ! by daedalus-prime · · Score: 1

      Well, in a 30 second test each of Google Maps and mpa24, the Google beta definitely came out the winner. map24 came up with two locations for my home address, about 5 miles apart. One of them was correct, but I couldn't see any reason it tried to show me the other. The other thing that impressed me about Google was that when I did a Local Search for grocery stores, it came back with a good listing of the stores in my area. Map24 only has fixed categories that don't seem to include grocery stores...

    31. Re:You can drag the map ! by Refried+Beans · · Score: 1

      I also saw the stray blue line while doing directions. I filed a problem report. Hopefully with enough data points they can figure it out. I noticed that it only appeared in two zoom factors.

    32. Re:You can drag the map ! by Media+Tracker · · Score: 2, Funny

      map.search.ch also has a very sleek, highly usable interface, built using only JavaScript. You can drag the map, zooming is animated, and you get a mix of satellite imagery and vector graphics... Very cool.

      Only covers Switzerland, unfortunately.

    33. Re:You can drag the map ! by agallagh42 · · Score: 1

      Not only does google maps support Canada, it has more detail and accuracy than any other online or offline map program I've used, including map24.

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    34. Re:You can drag the map ! by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      Google Maps works fine for Canada. I live in Montreal and searched from my house to work, and while the directions were stupid, it found both locations and let me zoom in all the way.

      It's buggy (Up/down arrow keys scroll both map and page, directions are horrible), but shows a great deal of promise.

      And while map24 is impressive, I find Google Maps more impressive. It does the same thing using JavaScript instead of Java. map24 won't even load on my current machine in Firefox because I have no JVM installed.

    35. Re:You can drag the map ! by mkcheme · · Score: 1

      Bah. Maps24 gives bunk directions to me. Rather than putting me right on the highway from home to work, it recommends I take a traffic- and traffic light-burdened Main St. (Waltham) that is actually out of my way (go south to go north?) to get to the 128/95 loop around Boston. No other map provider I've tried (MapQuest, Google, Yahoo!) does *that* poorly.

    36. Re:You can drag the map ! by mkcheme · · Score: 1

      Oh, and Maps24 got the address of my place of work wrong by TWO whole towns! (even though it located it on the map correctly)

    37. Re:You can drag the map ! by shokk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I like Yahoo Maps because it lets you save locations for use later, like if you make the same trip again a year later. I don't see this in Mapquest, MSN/Mapblast, or Google Maps.

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    38. Re:You can drag the map ! by zangdesign · · Score: 2, Insightful

      you need to edit your binary search paths ($PATH) and make sure javavm

      And we should have to do this ... why? That sort of thing should already have been handled by the OS.

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    39. Re:You can drag the map ! by KillerDeathRobot · · Score: 1

      The FAQ for Google Maps says that this is a feature they're working on.

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    40. Re:You can drag the map ! by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it is a very cool interface. Also, it loads incredibly fast,

      The problem is it loads very very slowly. I think the Internet is too slow a medium, it makes the program feel like you're crawling through treacle. Perhaps it would be better if they released it on CD-Rom so it would be faster and easier to use.

    41. Re:You can drag the map ! by Emperor+Igor · · Score: 1

      Topography? What, are you gonna use the data to fire a cruise missle?

    42. Re:You can drag the map ! by caswelmo · · Score: 1

      Now I just need it to start tracking my GPS receiver & update my location/direction appropriately. Aside from that, wow! Google rocks!

    43. Re:You can drag the map ! by Basehart · · Score: 1

      "They won the 2004 Webby for Technological Achievement"

      And don't forget they've been featured on the Kim Kommando show!!

    44. Re:You can drag the map ! by klui · · Score: 1

      Looks like map24 has the same data that Yahoo has. Google's data set is more up-to-date. Map24's also loads slower than Google.

    45. Re:You can drag the map ! by Thrakkerzog · · Score: 1

      But of course it's still Beta. A simple test for "Wilmington, DE to Jersey City, NJ" in my case renders a misplaced blue line that I can't quite make sense of. But if that's the only problem...

      You should have checked with the city planning office. Your house is about to be demolished to make way for a bypass.

      The plans have been available for ages! Look out for the tigers, though!

    46. Re:You can drag the map ! by willutah · · Score: 1

      If you don't drag at all from the opening page, and simply zoom in, you will find that Coffeyville Kansas is the center of the United States. Is this an Easter Egg thrown in by a sleep-deprived developer, or is there really such a place?

    47. Re:You can drag the map ! by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1
      Yeah, but that's a java app.

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    48. Re:You can drag the map ! by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1

      A simple test for "Wilmington, DE to Jersey City, NJ" in my case renders a misplaced blue line that I can't quite make sense of.

      I just tested the same route, and it looks about right to me. Only difference I'd make if I were giving directions myself would be to take the Turnpike to exit 14C rather than swith to US 1/9 for the last leg into Jersey City. But that's largely a matter of personal preference and where exactly in JC you're headed.

    49. Re:You can drag the map ! by jericho4.0 · · Score: 1
      Some of us have been known to leave our homes.

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    50. Re:You can drag the map ! by Q+Who · · Score: 1

      Dude, if you are going to use a topographic map from some online source for hiking, you are plain crazy.

    51. Re:You can drag the map ! by snorklewacker · · Score: 1

      Google: went to the site. Worked. Even used some kind of GeoIP to pre-fill a location in my city (10 market, san francisco).

      map24: Cluttered site. Lengthy java detection, which failed to detect my installed JVM (and I'm even on windows). Long load time for applet. Search for a city in SF, makes me pick from a list of 10 matches (I wasn't aware there was more than one "10 Market St" in San Francisco, California). Draws the map at continent zoom anyway, but fails to draw the actual continent or even the city I searched for. Interface fails to respond while zoom animates. Eventually locks up my entire browser.

      Yet Google is the only one stamping "beta" on the site. map24 might be nice tech, but a map site has to be a practical working thing for me, not a technology demo.

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    52. Re:You can drag the map ! by BayBlade · · Score: 1
      Its kinda broken for Edmonton.

      I can get directions to and from my house to places around town, and it will paint a blue line describing the route, but it doesn't show any streets.

      Since its a beta, I'll assume that'll get better, but for now, its more or less useless compared to the current offerings for maps on the net.

      It also fails my "completeness" test (as do all the others) when I feed it the address of a condo a buddy of mine lives at.

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    53. Re:You can drag the map ! by XMyth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yea. Geordie's post would've been put to much better use if he had complained about the problem rather than offering a solution. Or better yet, he could've complained about existing solutions, like you did.

    54. Re:You can drag the map ! by Sandor+at+the+Zoo · · Score: 1
      Yawn. You've obviously not seen map24 then?

      OK, I checked it out.

      • They assume I'm running my browser in 1200-by-whatever mode, which bites. Poor layout.
      • The default action when clicking on the map is to drag a selection, which I wouldn't pick as the default -- doing it by accident is too destructive to the display.
      • When you use the hand tool to drag the map around, all the street names disappear during the drag. Why? Poor design choice.
      • Sucky animated banners at the top of the page.
      • Map features render as overlays, popping in after you zoom out. I prefer Google's method of tiling from the center of the page on out, since that gives you all the data for the area of interest more often.
      • The initial zoom-in animation is kind of cool, but not really a useful feature.
      • The little toolbar window isn't a window. It has a title bar which led me to believe I could drag it elsewhere, but you can't.
      • I like the little rocket ship (is that what it is?) tool that gives you a quick zoom out and in to show context.
      • I like being able to point at a road and see a tooltip with its info.

      Overall, map24 isn't bad, but Google has a good history of Doing the Right Thing, so they'll probably add whatever features they think they lack, but keep the interface clean.

    55. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you're under linux and the javavm binary can't be found by the java plugin then Java does present rather a problem.. you need to edit your binary search paths ($PATH) and make sure javavm can be hand then all should be well.. try running firefox from a console and you can get a little information as to why the browser dies..

      2005 is definitely the year of Linux on the desktop!

    56. Re:You can drag the map ! by PeteEMT · · Score: 1
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    57. Re:You can drag the map ! by javaxman · · Score: 1
      You've obviously not seen map24 then? Java based applet for online vector maps. Pisses all over Mapquest and Googles latest.

      Wow! Thanks! That's definitely very, very cool!

      Minor detail, it did ( eventually ) crash Safari for me when using the "interactive" map ( .. some sort of semaphore lock backtrace, sent that one off to Apple for their crash database... ), but... it's cool, quick, and useful enough, I think I'll end up using it again anyway!

      It looks like as long as I use their "static" map ( which is honestly nearly as good, maybe better than, the "interactive" map ), it's not going to cause problems for the browser.

      More important to me than the admittedly neat-o interactive map features are the well-developed time estimation features, nicely functional, fairly intelligent-looking route planning, and general ease-of-use... this site definitely deserved to get that award...

    58. Re:You can drag the map ! by jc42 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      you need to edit your binary search paths ($PATH) ...

      That sort of thing should already have been handled by the OS.


      Yeah; that's fine if you aren't using java for anything else. It's fairly common for java users to have more than one version installed. Often this is because there are apps out there that require a specific jvm. With the ability to have a different $PATH in different windows, it's possible to solve such problems.

      Of course, eventually you'll likely find that this is unnecessary, and all this can be set up automagically when you log in. But java developers will still insist on the ability to install more than one jvm, and choose among them when running a java app.

      The fact that you want your hand held behind the scenes doesn't mean that the rest of us shouldn't be allowed to use the full power of our system.

      (And, of course, the OS should have nothing whatsoever to do with setting the $PATH variable. That should be done by whatever login app you're using. If it's tied into the OS, you're using a system that has a very bad engineering design. ;-)

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    59. Re:You can drag the map ! by poptix_work · · Score: 1

      There's an old 'switch bridge' down the road from me that used to cross the river, it was shut down 10 years ago.. Mappoint and Mapquest still show it as in-use, and route across it (fun for people who actually try to follow it.. into the river)

      Google maps (properly) show it as a dead-end on both sides. Hurrah for google!

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    60. Re:You can drag the map ! by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      You see, they have this new fangled technology called...

      wait for it!

      printing!

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    61. Re:You can drag the map ! by Jikel_Morten · · Score: 1

      Yeah but, um, it's Java. ctrl+f4, but thanks anyway.

    62. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. The atlantic ocean is a lot bigger than you thought.

    63. Re:You can drag the map ! by jc42 · · Score: 1

      I think it's probably by far the clearest map rendering I've seen anywhere. Extremely good visual quality. ... But of course it's still Beta.

      True, true.

      One of the things I found quickly is the serious shortage of information in the maps. Above zoom level 3, almost all the street names disappear. There's plenty of room for them in the empty spaces, and the maps would be much more useful if you could see the street names.

      I hope they fix this quickly.

      But it's already better than mapquest, which has really gone downhill since Microsoft bought them out. For example, mapquest no longer gives you maps of different sizes unless you buy a subscription; you get only the smallest map. This is already fixed in a much cooler fashion by google's maps, by matching the map to the window size.

      And the panning is quite nice. It's just like the Garmin 3600 that I've had for over a year now, but with a much bigger screen (and fewer street names ;-).

      Now if I could plug a GPS gadget into my laptop and make it talk to the google map aplet, so it could show a "You are here" icon on the map ...

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    64. Re:You can drag the map ! by TopShelf · · Score: 1

      My road didn't show up on either service (granted, it's a new subdivision and our house is 5 months old), but I found Maps24's interface clunky and the performance slow compared to Google's. Maps24 may have some nice features to investigate in detail, but Google had a very intuitive feel that you could start using productively right away...

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    65. Re:You can drag the map ! by Fweeky · · Score: 1

      "And crashes Firefox for me (v1.0, Win XP Pro)."

      Works for me, although it locked up for about 15s after it loaded and I scrolled a bit, and RMB keeps bringing up Firefox's context menu as well as moving the map. It also brought up the Java console for some reason; maybe I turned it on ages ago and forgot about it.

      Opera worked a lot better.

      You do have a fairly recent version of Sun's JVM installed, right? Or are you trying to use the Microsoft JVM?

    66. Re:You can drag the map ! by Snowdog668 · · Score: 1

      I hate to burst your bubble there but I got the same thing and I live near Chicago. It's probably just a default...

      Even used some kind of GeoIP to pre-fill a location in my city (10 market, san francisco).

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    67. Re:You can drag the map ! by xSquaredAdmin · · Score: 1

      http://www.coffeyville.com/

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    68. Re:You can drag the map ! by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Another cool thing: I was suprised when it automatically brought up a big, clear map that almost fills a 1600x1200 screen. I guess the Java app knows how many pixels it has to work with, and automatically makes the most of it. In a side-by-side with yahoo maps, after manually clicking Yahoo's "make map larger" button, the google map is still 4x the size.

    69. Re:You can drag the map ! by timeOday · · Score: 1

      Here's a wierdness: I don't have the JRE installed. The first time I accessed the page it prompted me to download Java, which I did not do. But then the second time I tried the page, it worked. I can still drag the maps. Yet the JRE is still not installed and my process list has no JVM running.

    70. Re:You can drag the map ! by mikehilly · · Score: 1

      Must have been a glitch or something, but I zoomed in so close that I could see myself through the window looking at the map.

    71. Re:You can drag the map ! by walt-sjc · · Score: 1

      Time to upgrade from that accoustic coupler modem...

    72. Re:You can drag the map ! by goldfndr · · Score: 1

      There's a "Link to this page" link, it alters the title bar (as of Firefox 1.0 on Debian) to something you could paste elsewhere.

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    73. Re:You can drag the map ! by Eggplant62 · · Score: 1

      Drag what?? I just tried it from Mozilla 1.0 on my laptop running Mandrake (no, not their rpm, but the installer-based package), and I got no maps, just a broken graphic link. Nothing, nada. Appears that there are bugs to be worked out.

    74. Re:You can drag the map ! by Eggplant62 · · Score: 1

      Ohhh... that explains it, it needs java... Time to figure out what's fubar in my java config for firefox.

    75. Re:You can drag the map ! by zobier · · Score: 1

      You shouldn't use an "empty" tag if you want it to have a child text node.

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    76. Re:You can drag the map ! by zangdesign · · Score: 1

      Actually, the point is this: I want the stuff to work without having to dig around in the innards too much. I have work to do, not a bunch of pointless tinkering. I am paid to produce results, not tinker with the computer.

      (yeah, I know, or post stuff on Slashdot).

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    77. Re:You can drag the map ! by Q+Who · · Score: 1

      In case you aren't joking... How is this relevant?

    78. Re:You can drag the map ! by Entouchable · · Score: 1

      mapquest does this, it's a feature i use often, though it's done by cookies since they obviously dont require an account.

    79. Re:You can drag the map ! by LoveTruthBeauty · · Score: 1
      I'd love it to be faster to, and no doubt it will be in time, but its still an impressive improvement on current technology.

      As an exercise, pick a random street in a random town in the USA, and find the nearest pizza restaurant without Google Maps. Chances are you can't even do it without leaving your house to buy maps.

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    80. Re:You can drag the map ! by Tropaios · · Score: 1

      From the map24 website:

      Due to the new cooperation between Google, Inc, and Mapsolute GmbH, maker of the unique mapping portal Map24.com, it is now possible to search for city maps in all European Google search engines. If you enter a city name into Google.co.uk, the first result list entry is a special link to Map24.com that brings up the corresponding city map. On the result page, for sure, the full set of the rich Map24 options is available to the users.

    81. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but the mandrake guys will get it worked out someday

    82. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But it's already better than mapquest, which has really gone downhill since Microsoft bought them out.

      A quick search for "Microsoft Buys Mapquest" brings up the #1 Hit: America Online Buys Mapquest.
      And Mapquest has an About America Online section! I don't think MS owns them.

      Microsoft has MapPoint which I've been using for years now because it's been better than Mapquest. I read the slashdot headline and thought "Huh, sounds like MapPoint". After reading the slashdot article the one thing I'll point out is that mappoint doesn't use Java! And it too is fast. Resizing / moving the map typically doesn't involve a page refresh. It's just good HTML.

    83. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "After reading the slashdot article the one thing I'll point out is that mappoint doesn't use Java! And it too is fast. Resizing / moving the map typically doesn't involve a page refresh. It's just good HTML."

      Yeah... May sound like MapPoint, though you have to admit, with a few glitches and a few minor missing things (like distance legend), Google Maps blows it away. And it JUST went into beta =)

    84. Re:You can drag the map ! by Breakfast+Pants · · Score: 1

      Are you talking about google maps or map24? Google maps doesn't use java so that could be why.

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    85. Re:You can drag the map ! by subrama6 · · Score: 1

      If I have to install the newest JVM and go through separate fields for each address parameter (address line 1, city, state) instead of just typing natural language into a single box, it's not worth it.

    86. Re:You can drag the map ! by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Y'know, I hadn't looked at mapquest in months, but you're right. They now have yet another New Look, and there aren't any mentions of microsoft.com anywhere. There don't seem to be any AOL references, either, though the graphics do have that certain something.

      Also, I notice that the site is still pretty much lacking in various of the old features, such as getting maps of different sizes, adding in your own marker icons, etc. I wonder if they'll add these things back, or if they will be available only to paying subscribers?

      Meanwhile, the initial google maps seems to already be the best in the pack. I told my wife she should check out maps.google.com, and she was dubious about bothering with a new map site. But within a few minutes, she was saying how nice it was, and it's in her bookmarks now.

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    87. Re:You can drag the map ! by blibbler · · Score: 1

      I zoomed into a tiny (maybe 500 people) aboriginal commmunity about 80km north of Prince rupert, and it had all of the streets, and names... It also had the route the ferry took to get there.

    88. Re:You can drag the map ! by zanderredux · · Score: 1
      Nah.

      According to the map, the US of A actually encompasses what was called as "Canada" and "Central America", and it is an island!

    89. Re:You can drag the map ! by shokk · · Score: 1

      Bleh. No account means no access across multiple systems.

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    90. Re:You can drag the map ! by snookerdoodle · · Score: 1

      Map24 for my address is completely wrong, FWIW.

      151 avalon gardens drive, nanuet, ny, 10954

      Google, Mapquest, Expedia, MapSource (Garmin), and so on are all off my apartment by 100 feet, but have the layout pretty much dead on.

      Map24 has me on a non existent street (Avalon Lane), and the entire apartment complex is mapped out with nonexistent streets. Probably very old data from a previous owner of the apartment complex since the current names have been in place for several years.

      Mark

    91. Re:You can drag the map ! by pthisis · · Score: 1

      Yawn. You've obviously not seen map24 then?

      I tried. It doesn't work at all in my browser (Mozilla 1.7.3, FC2). I keep fairly up to date with my browser, but I'm not about to chase down the newest Java version or flash plugin for every random web page. If it doesn't work I'll use something that does.

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    92. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Runs fine in Firefox 1.0 on WinXP you fucking homo whiner. STFU and get back to work bitch.

    93. Re:You can drag the map ! by jon3k · · Score: 1

      Its not java.

    94. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats fantastic that you're so excited about the rocket button. I'm sure toddler's everywhere won't give google's map service a second look!

      And yes, it is canada. Obviously you didn't even try using it. You don't work for map24 by any chance do you?

      You know this is a beta ........ right? I mean, obviously you caught that, you couldnt be that igorant.

    95. Re:You can drag the map ! by badmammajamma · · Score: 1

      map24 is pretty cool but it's slow slow slow. Can't stand it. Google Maps is fast. In any event, I can't see how map24 "pisses" all over Google's latest. Outside of map24, Google's is the only decent thing out there and it's still in beta (although, everying google has is in beta).

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    96. Re:You can drag the map ! by AyeRoxor! · · Score: 1

      I have work to do, not a bunch of pointless tinkering. I am paid to produce results, not tinker with the computer.

      While attempting to sound hoity-toity, you actually told us all that you tinker with things for no point.

      You complained about not being able to do this. On slashdot, that will prompt reccomendations for resolution. You then said that fixing it would be "pointless tinkering," where in actuality the point was clearly to accomplish what you were trying to accomplish in the first place. Therefore , you personally called your own goal a fool's errand.

      Nice.

      The fact of the matter is that sometimes, on any platform, you will need to "tinker." This becomes more likely when you are trying to execute something that is not native to your platform of choice. Welcome to Slashdot. Enjoy your stay.

    97. Re:You can drag the map ! by bheilig · · Score: 1

      I also noticed that there are no one-way street directions near my house. Is this true for all Google maps?

    98. Re:You can drag the map ! by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Yeah, map24... my favorite feature is how it crashes my browser.

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    99. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this shit is marked as informative??? this is the most worthless comment ever made, pepax you are a toolbag.

    100. Re:You can drag the map ! by The-Bus · · Score: 1

      That's because none of us want to go to Jersey City.

      Not here at least.

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    101. Re:You can drag the map ! by Random832 · · Score: 1

      Even if there are multiple choices a distribution can choose from, the idea of a "login app" is, in the present day, considered part of the "OS" for consumer-level OSes.

      Year of Linux on the Desktop, indeed.

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    102. Re:You can drag the map ! by DanielNS84 · · Score: 1
      Google, Inc and Map24 team up for better service.
      ;)
    103. Re:You can drag the map ! by DanielNS84 · · Score: 1

      Link to that ;) Hit cancel to load the frame...

    104. Re:You can drag the map ! by Qacer · · Score: 1

      I just tried Map24.com and it got a major highway next to my house wrong. Instead of HWY 301 it named it HWY 43. Tsk.

    105. Re:You can drag the map ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and if you double-click, the map is re-centered on that point (and then you can zoom in etc.)
      Very cool.

    106. Re:You can drag the map ! by mindriot · · Score: 1

      Map24 has only added North America rather recently. As far as I remember, they're actually a German company -- at least that's what I used them for quite some time ago; they also used to be just map24.de. So yes, the US maps are still inaccurate in quite a few places (last time I checked they didn't have PHL on them!). But their general applet is very neat, and in Germany I used it exclusively, with very good results. The cool thing about the Google interface is that they've managed to put similar interactive features into a JavaScripted HTML page -- no Java applet --, which is one of the areas where Google is a strong pioneer I think (think Google Suggest, or keyboard shortcuts in Gmail).

  14. Nice... by sH4RD · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As said before, yes, it only seems to work in IE/Firefox (which is a shame). But, it is still easily the best map experience I have ever had. Being able to just type parts of an address into a bar instead of seperate boxes is disorganized, but quick and easy. And the balloon popup for current location is useful. The vector graphics are great, and scale to monitor resolution. I just wish NAVTEQ would add topographic information (for that matter, why does NAVTEQ do everyone's maps?). The zoom scale is much better than others, since it is live and smooth scaling. However, overall, the system doesn't seem like it would transfer to print well. I suppose the only way to find out is to try it.

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    1. Re:Nice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The vector graphics are great

      Er... what vector graphics would those be?

    2. Re:Nice... by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

      I'd presume the map data is vector based at some point, or else they're really good with smoke and mirrors. (I suppose it's either live rendered vectors, or huge prerendered bitmaps at oodles of scales).

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    3. Re:Nice... by yabos · · Score: 1

      It doesn't seem live to me using Firefox. If I zoom in, it loads new images.

    4. Re:Nice... by lazytiger · · Score: 5, Informative
      (for that matter, why does NAVTEQ do everyone's maps?)


      Because Navteq has invested millions and millions of dollars into GIS street data. Why reinvent the wheel when you can just license it? There are only two big, big sources of street data out there - Navteq and TeleAtlas. Virtually every online mapping service under the sun uses one or both of those sources. So does onboard GPS software. Increasingly, so do printed maps. Rand McNally's new line of local and regional maps (the ones with pastel covers) are based on Navteq data. They even boast about it. Look closely at other brands of printed maps and atlases and you'll notice often they don't even make the maps at all - you're likely to see MapQuest copyrights all over the place if you look closely. And MapQuest of course in turn uses Navteq and/or TeleAtlas data.

      However, Navteq doesn't necessarily "do" everyone's maps. They provide the data and then the company comes up with a specification for linework, fills, etc. and adds or subtracts Points of Interest, boundaries, etc. A lot more goes into making a map than just the raw data. Let someone else do that.

      The mapping industry has become one big consolidated relicensing operation. If good data already exists, it's foolish not to just use it. Believe me, there would be a hell of a lot more errors if everyone was creating their own data rather than using one or two reasonably good sources.
    5. Re:Nice... by dtfinch · · Score: 1

      They load fast though. It's live as in the entire page doesn't refresh, and you can continue moving around while it's loading. Dragging and using the +/- keys to zoom makes for pretty quick navigation.

    6. Re:Nice... by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Background: I used to collect street maps; at one point I had hundreds of them. (Sadly, most were lost when I moved.)

      I wonder if a general switch to those two providers explains something I've noticed:

      Printed maps used to be better quality than they are now. More accurate, more detail, easier to read. But over the past decade or so, the two best (AAA and Rand-McNally) have really gone downhill, and in similar ways. Now, there ARE no really good printed maps, at least that I've seen. They've lost all the fine detail (dirt roads, etc.) that used to be routinely included.

      BTW, don't wave that Thomas Guide at me...[g] TG prints *dedicated* streets, which in SoCal often don't exist except on the city blueprints. AAA always showed *actual* streets, which is far more useful when you discover a very large building sprawled across what TG shows as a street.

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    7. Re:Nice... by prockcore · · Score: 1

      There are only two big, big sources of street data out there - Navteq and TeleAtlas.

      Um... what about TIGER? Good enough for the US Census Bureau... and it's free for commercial and non-commercial use.

  15. My country doesn't exist! by Burb · · Score: 1

    This is US isolationism taken to extremes! OK, they do allow Canada to exist.

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  16. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nice job on the interface google

    1. Re:WOW by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 1

      Actually I've never seen anything as shortsighted as posting this boring complaint as if it's the only one in the whole thread. I'm sure all UK companies always include their US non-customers in all their products.

  17. Holy god jesus YES! by BlueTooth · · Score: 1

    Finally an online mapping application that gives us a BIG window...if they could get good vector based printing to work, they could do away with those multi-cd desktop mapping apps.

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  18. spectacular UI... and up-to-date by path_man · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Very nice interface, and certainly less cluttered than maps.yahoo.com or mapquest.

    But best of all -- my new subdivision is on the map whereas it's absent on all the other free map services that the pizza guy, furniture stores, and other delivery folks keep trying to use because they've never heard of my street before.

    Google's "DO NO EVIL" company value really shows in this excellent service.

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    1. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by Complicity · · Score: 1
      my new subdivision is on the map whereas it's absent on all the other free map services
      The data that they are using doesn't seem to be up-to-date for Canada. Near where I live, a road has been extended and a new high school built 2 or 3 years ago, but none of that is shown. Neither is a major park where I have been playing baseball for the past 5 years.

      I do love the interface though!

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    2. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by birder · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unfortunately, Google is using a 3+ year old map of my sub division which has had roads moved, added and renamed. http://www.ca.map24.com/ is up to date for me.

      Still, it's an amazing interface and I hope they get accurate info soon.

    3. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      I live on a road in a small town in ontario. The name of the road changed a year ago (They renamed most roads in town). The town itself can't even keep things straight, keep sending hydro bills to the old named address, and all the other big online map services list it wrong, if at all.

      Google maps has all the changes bang on.

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    4. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by Stevyn · · Score: 1

      I found a nitpick.

      There is a lake across the street from my home. It's a man made lake, Lake Madonna. It got that name from some type of concatenation of the last names of the two people that built it. However, the name Google gives it is Lake Acquakeanonk. I've seen this on old databases so it leads me to think that their system is out of date.

      However, it lists all the new housing developments in that area. So I think this system is up to date in some respects, but not in others. This really is a nitpick, I know, since people living in those new developments would rather their street exist than my lake have the proper name.

    5. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by santos_douglas · · Score: 1

      I hate to do a me too post, but I noticed the same exact thing. I live in a well developed part of town, but for some reason every other map I use has failed to show the subdivision level detail of the area I live in, but this does! And yes, the UI rules.

    6. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by Racter · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. Google Maps shows a residential subdivision near my workplace that doesn't exist yet.

    7. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by pavon · · Score: 1

      Interesting, it seems to vary. The street names in the small town that I grew up in are wrong. They're not out of date - they haven't changed in forever - they are just plain wrong. Which is interesting concidering that all the other map programs have it right and use the same GIS data (NAVTEQ) as google.

    8. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by whovian · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, Google is using a 3+ year old map of my sub division which has had roads moved, added and renamed. http://www.ca.map24.com/ is up to date for me.

      Same here, but for http://www.us.map24.com/ My parents moved into a new subdivision 3 years ago. Map24 shows it, whereas Google Maps does not.

      the mouse box-zoom feature on Map24 is tres cool, too.

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    9. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 1

      Just the opposite here. My subdivision (built in 2002) is shown complete on the Google maps but the whole area is still blank on map24's site.

    10. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Up-to-date?

      or not. It is wrong on US131 in Michigan, as it now goes much further north, and has for several years. And it's missing an entire highway that's been open for almost a year. The M6 in Grand Rapids, MI is not present. It's also not present on MapPoint, but I'm just saying, it's not up to date.

  19. They forgot Poland ! by CineK · · Score: 1

    Again! no, really - it's 16 years since the communist era officially ended in this part of Europe, and you still can't get good standard mapping software :(

    no TomTom for us, either :(

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    1. Re:They forgot Poland ! by Gallowsgod · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean you guys belived you would get maps just because you embraced capitalism?

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    2. Re:They forgot Poland ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's there, just search Greenpoint, Brooklyn, NY. Oh, wait you meant the country.

  20. and its allmost xhtml compliant by Val314 · · Score: 2, Informative

    just 1 (small) error
    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://ma ps.goog le.com/

    and it has a doctype ;)

    1. Re:and its allmost xhtml compliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what irks me. If it's one small error, then they were probably trying to write valid code. But since the one small error got through, this means they don't have an effective QA process in place.

      And the one small error? Trying to use a Microsoft XML namespace in an XHTML 1.0 document. Not only are external namespaces not permitted in XHTML 1.0, but it won't be treated as XHTML anyway because they are serving it as text/html.

    2. Re:and its allmost xhtml compliant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Safari's Javascript/DOM support is very evil. It's buggy, it's impossible to debug, and there's no documentation.

      In other words it sucks and therefore Safari users are out in the cold when it comes to DHTML applicaitons.

  21. What about Safari? by Schwarzchild · · Score: 1

    IE on Macintosh isn't supported either.

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    1. Re:What about Safari? by mattspammail · · Score: 1

      Okay, first off. That's just sacreligious.

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    2. Re:What about Safari? by ocelotbob · · Score: 1

      It doesn't work on netscape 3 either. Both of which are obsolete and unsupported. Upgrade already

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    3. Re:What about Safari? by allgood2 · · Score: 1

      The site actually works in Safari, though some of the functions like zooming to the street level and point in click scrolling are missing. That said, I clicked on the Load GoogleMaps anyway link. It was able to scroll around the country fairly clickly. Though using the zoom bar instead of point in click, did take me to North Dakota when I was shooting for Wisconsin.

      The Directions worked like a breeze, and I like the one line interface better than the separate boxes for city, state, zip at MapQuest. But I generally prefer it when I'm allowed to write information naturally and have the computer parse it for me, as oppose to having to parse it for the computer.

      It will be great once they add full Safari support. But I'm enjoying playing with it even now.

  22. [tt] and it supports most of Canada by Porn+Whitelist · · Score: 1
    Well, it's got Halifax, Quebec City, Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary, and Vancouver - and they NUKED OTTAWA (Canada's capital) from the main map - Yay Google!. Now why couldn't they have done that a few years ago?

    Not a single province listed, but that's okay, 3/4 of the population lives in or around those 9 cities. As the feds have been saying for years, "fuck the provinces".

    1. Re:[tt] and it supports most of Canada by Zardoz44 · · Score: 1
      Most maps do nuke Ottawa from the eagle-eye view, simply because its usually too close to Toronto and Montreal which have higher populations.

      I typed my Ottawa address and it took me to my street within a fraction of a second. So Ottawa hasn't been nuked, yet.

    2. Re:[tt] and it supports most of Canada by Porn+Whitelist · · Score: 1
      simply because its usually too close to Toronto
      We feel your pain ...
      and Montreal
      Huh? Most people living in Ottawa find it rather convenient that Montreal is so close - all-night boozing and sex only a convenient 1-hour drive away for the under-18 crowd.
  23. Live traffic updates? by illumina+us · · Score: 1

    But will there be live traffic updates like Y! Maps is supposed to soon have?

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    1. Re:Live traffic updates? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Y! Maps already has live traffic updates. Click on "View Traffic on Map" and you're set.

  24. There's a limit by wiredog · · Score: 1

    to how much data they can hold on a few thousand servers. They have street level resoluton across the entire US, which is probably a terabyte, or several, of data. And high speed access to that data.

    1. Re:There's a limit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They have street level resoluton across the entire US, which is probably a terabyte, or several, of data.

      I think you're a little bit off on this estimate. Microsoft Streets and Trips has street level resolution of all of north america, and its only about 900 mb.

    2. Re:There's a limit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have software that gives me street level resolution across all of North America and it fits on two CDs. There is nothing near a terabyte of data here.

    3. Re:There's a limit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google Maps is clearly using pre-rendered map tiles, so there's a LOT of data behind it. Of course, Google is no stranger to massive datasets, so this isn't really a problem for them. Nice solution, all things considered. I particularly like the way they leverage their local datacenters to make it fast for everyone.

  25. Map24.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    map24.com is Europe-only. However it seems to be much faster then the US-only maps.google.com.

  26. Dropshadows?! by kuzb · · Score: 5, Funny
    [..]offering a cleaner layout, drop shadows, clickable waypoints and keyboard controls that allow you to move and zoom the map.

    Jesus! They have drop shadows! Sign me up#@!

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    1. Re:Dropshadows?! by ruckc · · Score: 1

      Antialiasing, showing real widths of roads, or at least aproximate widths of roads.

      But its easily the slowest online mapping tool i have seen so far, or maybe its just slashdot slowing it down.

    2. Re:Dropshadows?! by ergo98 · · Score: 1

      "But its easily the slowest online mapping tool i have seen so far, or maybe its just slashdot slowing it down."

      Maybe it's just you - for me it is remarkably quick. I would say that it competes quite competitively, both for looks and responsiveness, with a local install of MapPoint. Amazing.

      There is a basic technical schism between the way Google has done it and the other online mapping sites do it - Google's doesn't just server-render and then feed a whole GIF back. I'm not sure how exactly they do it (I started delving through the source but decided to just wait for a "How they did it" story), but it looks like they... hell I'm not even going to hypothesize as it'll make me look silly, however the basic difference is why you can drag this one and it fills in the missing detail.

    3. Re:Dropshadows?! by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Careful about poking into those dropshadows. You may be eaten by a grue.

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    4. Re:Dropshadows?! by Mik3D · · Score: 1

      From an intitial glance it looks like they pre-generated tiles for the 15 different scale settings. Then it just becomes a matter of feeding out the ~49 tiles that fall withing the lat/long fed to them by the java applet running on the client. All the labels are pre-set except the bubble/drop-shadow... which is being generated by the local client.

      So the google server feeds back the image grid, and any marker/bubble data with their cooresponding lat/longs and the local machine creates all the eye candy.... very slick.

      I am also hoping for a more in depth analysis so us folks creating interfaces for Mapserverhttp://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/ can borrow some ideas!

  27. Centre of the world?! by medraut · · Score: 1

    Once again it seems that our brothers in the US of A have forgotten that they are not the only country in the world...

    Admittedly it is in Beta, here's hoping for maybe a bit of Europe and Africa. Who knows, maybe one day they'll discover Asia! Let us not forget Australia and Greenland?! And I'm sure the penguins in Antarctica would appreciate being able to find a Pizza Hut. Oh yes, and the big green continent known as South America.

    Medraut

    1. Re:Centre of the world?! by dknight · · Score: 1

      *grumbles*
      Where is google located? Where are the guys who run google from? What is their target audience right now? The U.S.A.

      Why does everyone feel the need to gripe about that fact? I'm sure eventually they'll get around to the rest of the world, but for right now, they're trying to get everything right here first.

    2. Re:Centre of the world?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once again it seems that our brothers in the US of A have forgotten that they are not the only country in the world...

      Most other countries can't afford the spy satellite technology that the U.S. has, so the U.S. has a significant advantage... but they realize that's not fair to an invading army so they give out very detailed and accurate maps to the enemy over the internet through google. Of course, anyone caught using this information will be assumed to be a terrorist, and will be detained indefinitely. ;-)

    3. Re:Centre of the world?! by medraut · · Score: 1

      Of course... Hence the beta comment. Although you do have to admit that Google is located all over the Globe.

      I just felt like taking a dig at it because they didnt even include a basic world map.

    4. Re:Centre of the world?! by Cokelee · · Score: 1

      You're a dumbass.

    5. Re:Centre of the world?! by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Once again it seems that our brothers in the US of A have forgotten that they are not the only country in the world...

      Hmmm. Shall we start a list of products and services from non-US companies that are only meaningful for residents in Japan, Brazil, France, or Germany? Google is a US company that so far overwhelmingly serves a US audience first, and the rest of the world second. They're starting something new, it's FREE, and you're complaining because it isn't instantly global in scope? If you're wondering why sometimes Americans roll their eyes at complaints from the rest of the world, this is a good example. I'll avoid the we-sent-our-troops-in-WWII example, and just stick with which-internet-would-you-be-using-if-our-military- dollars-didn't-build-it question instead. That US companies are leveraging it, and not rolling out services to the rest of the world instantly is just something you'll have to deal with for a little while. Sheesh!

      Oh: and it would also help if people who run the companies that provide these services that people (say, Europeans) want so much didn't have to get worried about being taken to court when something shocking to local sensibilities shows up in some content or an ad. We all hate Nazis, right? But in the US we don't worry too much if some idiot wants to sell some other idiot some piece of WWII memorabilia... and if somehow that information shows up in a Google search, no one here gets all woozy about it. But our search companies have to spend millions of dollars making their services "safe" for the non-paying people in other countries. You get my point, I hope: we operate in a market economy, and that means that if you've got a better idea, and can deliver something faster, do it! Otherwise, don't try to make cheap political points by making it sound like one of our great companies is somehow being arrogant for not giving you something for free as quickly as you want it.

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    6. Re:Centre of the world?! by nospmiS+remoH · · Score: 1

      That is so true. I don't think any company should release anything, beta or otherwise, until it is available for all browsers, in all countries, in all languages. I don't care if it takes them an extra couple years to do things like this. Just because I live in the US and this is incredibly useful to me right now I think they should hold off until it works for EVERY FREAKING INCH of the globe. The fact that it helps me find a pizza place down the street is worthless if I can't find a McDonalds in Iceland. Sheesh, it might as well be hampsterdance.com. How dare they provide a free and useful service to a quarte billion people without catering to every other person on the globe. Who do they think they are? Didn't we learn early in life, "If you don't have enough for everyone don't bring any at all."

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    7. Re:Centre of the world?! by pjt33 · · Score: 1
      I'll avoid the we-sent-our-troops-in-WWII example
      Saves me pointing out that we sent our troops into Iraq...
      and just stick with which-internet-would-you-be-using-if-our-military- dollars-didn't-build-it question instead.
      And where would Google be without Tim Berners-Lee - a Brit? The people making economics points are being reasonable, but your argument seems to be "We invented ARPAnet, so you're indebted to us".
    8. Re:Centre of the world?! by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      I suppose I should have picked up from "centre" that you're a Brit, and despite the pounding that Tony Blair took for getting UK troops in on liberating Iraq, I've got a lot of respect for you folks for seeing that you have an interest in the stability that middle east democracy will bring to the world. Right... we all pitch in on world affairs (like defeating fascists in this century and last), even if certain other pieces of Europe like to have a selective memory.

      But running large privately founded/funded web sites (like Google) is an entirely different matter. In the US, businesses succeed despite regulation, taxes, etc... and the people that risk millions of dollars to make that happen have their limits. In a global economy, they'd be fools to ignore the profit opportunities in Europe, Asia, Africa, Central/South America, and Australia... but they don't owe free services to those places, and grow too quickly at their peril.

      Too often the tone of such complaints suggests that Google (or eBay, what have you) is some sort of natural resource that the evil Americans are hoarding, and preventing the rest of the world from having. I can't express enough my frustration at that perspective. American companies take every reasonable opportunity to sell their wares and services overseas, and have only themselves to blame if they can't attract enough investment to expand rapidly into those markets. But to imply that not yet having done so, on the part of Google (or any other very young, rapidly growing business) is some sort of snub to the rest of the world... that's just nonsense.

      but your argument seems to be "We invented ARPAnet, so you're indebted to us".

      Not so. I'm pointing out that we (in the US) have a vested interest in technology standards that the rest of the world will embrace. That Tim B-L jumped on the 'net with a killer app is great. But it would have remained, of course, a small, academic/scientific/government use of the larger net if it hadn't been for pioneering businesses finding ways to make it into a viable area for the huge investments that we now see. An increasing amount of that commercial development has been from overseas as time as gone on, but the first big waves of it were from domestic US companies. Google is a grand example of a second generation of those companies, and no doubt plan to out-Microsoft Microsoft at some point. It will be fascinating to see how much they become hated, just for their size and their American origin, as they become larger/largest in areas outside of plain old Search.

      The original article is a good example. Google now has the heft to pretty much crush a company like MapQuest. Much like MS has crushed smaller competitors (even those that got to something first), and much like American businesses and military operations are, by their sheer mass, dominant. With that dominance comes the inevitable love/hate/envy relationship from the rest of the world. The thing I worry about is that Google, in an effort to remain politically correct and seeming unoffensive to everyone, will allow themselves to be bullied into disadvantageous deals in Europe and Asia.

      I'm also just counting the days until we see an Airbus-like, EU-sponsored pseduo-governemt entity set up to compete with Google in much the same way that Airbus competes with the US's private Boeing.

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    9. Re:Centre of the world?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heh, you mispelled center!

    10. Re:Centre of the world?! by pjt33 · · Score: 1
      I suppose I should have picked up from "centre" that you're a Brit
      ?! I'm not medraut.
    11. Re:Centre of the world?! by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      Woops! That's just the sort of stupid, arrogant American I am. :-)

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  28. Maps24.com... by Glove+d'OJ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This looks very much like maps24.com... their application was java-based, and this appears to be browser-based / scripted.

    Maps24.com won a Webby in 2004.

    The click and drag for map movement rocks.

    1. Re:Maps24.com... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that's because they're working together: map24.com and check out the Google story.

  29. Konqueror isn't supported yet by advocate_one · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your browser is not supported by Google Maps just yet. We currently support the following browsers:

    IE 5.5+ (download: Windows)
    Firefox 0.8+ (download: Windows Mac Linux)
    Netscape 7.1+ (download: Windows Mac Linux)
    Mozilla 1.4+ (download: Windows Mac Linux)

    We are working on supporting Safari. Regardless of your browser type, you must have JavaScript enabled to use Google Maps.

    We recommend you download one of the browsers above, or you can try to load Google Maps in your current browser.

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    1. Re:Konqueror isn't supported yet by jisatsusha · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm pretty sure once Safari is supported, Konqueror will be too, don't they use the same rendering engine?

    2. Re:Konqueror isn't supported yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Safari uses the same rendering engine as Konqueror: KHTML.
      Too bad the summary doesn't mention that, since Konqueror was first.

    3. Re:Konqueror isn't supported yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone know whats up with Google's lack-of-Opera support in general?

    4. Re:Konqueror isn't supported yet by Carewolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It seems to use XSL, which neither Safari nor Konqueror supports.

    5. Re:Konqueror isn't supported yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go ahead and try it, it works fine with Safari...

    6. Re:Konqueror isn't supported yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should work if you set it to spoof as Firefox. They are probably just using user_agent sniffing with a whitelist, which is unfortunately still too common. For opera you could try finding the Netscape or MSIE strings in the binary and changing Opera to Op3ra so that when spoofing detection scripts won't detect the word "Opera" on the end and see through the spoofing.

  30. Waypoints? by HeelToe · · Score: 1

    Being a Mac OS X, Linux, and FreeBSD user, I want for decent trip planning solutions - unfortunately, I haven't found any.

    Adding waypoint support to web-based trip planning software has been high on my list for all of the available services, so I was excited to see this listed for maps.google.com.

    Unfortunately, I can't find how to do this even after perusing their help.

    Has anyone figured out how?

    Thanks!

  31. Old news mappy has all this and better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Including dragging the map and being responsive.

    http://www.mappy.com

    O yes, it's Europe only. Must be why this is spectacular news for our American friends... :)

  32. Or map24 by madaxe42 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or, for that matter, map24. Think they've got the most impressive interface i've seen yet.

    1. Re:Or map24 by Animaether · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I second this... I'll be sticking to map24, thanks.

      yes, google's new maps is impressive-ish. I take it that it's an extension of what they've done with Google Suggest - in-time downloading of elements.

      Cute, but I still can't do realtime zooming in/out I can't plot routes, or easily hop from Pizza place to Pizza place.
      -And- map24 doesn't revolve around the U.S.

    2. Re:Or map24 by Kplusplus · · Score: 1

      perhaps, but google maps and mapquest do actually know where I live. And google maps are near realtime zooming depending on yoru connection speed.

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    3. Re:Or map24 by igrp · · Score: 2, Informative
      Google and Map24 have teamed up in the past to provide in-line city map results for their European search engines (they briefly mention it on the Map24 site).

      So, it appears they're already cooperating. I guess it wouldn't be a big surprise if they're using Map24's data for their own mapping service. If that's true, it shouldn't be all that hard to add a Google Maps Europe in the future.

    4. Re:Or map24 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I went out to check out map24.com as I'd never seen it. Saw a blurb off to it's side about Google, so I decided to click it. Here's what it said: "Due to the new cooperation between Google, Inc, and Mapsolute GmbH, maker of the unique mapping portal Map24.com, it is now possible to search for city maps in all European Google search engines. If you enter a city name into Google.co.uk, the first result list entry is a special link to Map24.com that brings up the corresponding city map. On the result page, for sure, the full set of the rich Map24 options is available to the users."

    5. Re:Or map24 by Curmudgeonlyoldbloke · · Score: 1

      On a very quick test, map24 wins:

      http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.377686%2C-121.94 0036&spn=0.005020%2C0.008355

      Seems to suggest that roads join when they don't, doesn't zoom as far in and doesn't show the hotel and gas station that map24 does.

    6. Re:Or map24 by frantzdb · · Score: 1

      Google maps has the interface feature I've been missing in every map program: it takes a single string and Just Works. Just enter the address you want in the one text field -- or just enter the street name and ZIP. Go google.

      Also, the map is always as big as possible, resizing to fill the screen.

    7. Re:Or map24 by jrumney · · Score: 1

      A quick test for driving directions from my work to home on map24 had me driving over a section of road that was pedestrianized about 10 years ago. I'll stick with multimap's static maps with up to date data behind them thanks.

    8. Re:Or map24 by beta21 · · Score: 1

      If you go to the map24 page it mentions they are teaming up ith google maps

    9. Re:Or map24 by sycamore_days · · Score: 1

      map24 and google have teamed up!

    10. Re:Or map24 by slashdotjunker · · Score: 1

      Warning: map24 uses Java.

  33. Features I would like. by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shorest Distance.
    Avoid Highways
    Use Highways
    Fastest Time
    Least number of turns (most direct route).
    Avoid Cities
    As well the ability to change your route on the map. Say you know that you cant take this road because of traffic today so you need an alternate route.

    I think those would be useful features for any map program. At best I have only seen some of them parttilly implemented.

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    1. Re:Features I would like. by gunnk · · Score: 1

      As a GPS-user I would love to see an option to display latitude and longtitude. I usually use mapsonus.com because they do lat/long well so that I can calibrate my maps for my GPS.

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    2. Re:Features I would like. by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      Why bother? Maps on a PC are cool and all, but not very useful when you're in a car.
      If you use a PC in the car, the software needs to be runnable without an internet connection, it needs a GPS interface, and it needs to be able to generate spoken and visual directions.
      Once you go to those lengths, a dedicated naviation system, or a PDA-based system is a better choice (doesn't take up as much space, etc.)
      And printing the directions and taking them with you just doesn't cut it. That's the worst of both worlds: no situational awareness because you've got a low-res nonzoomable map, plus directions that may be flawed, and no way to correct the directions while driving.

    3. Re:Features I would like. by Nessak · · Score: 1

      Yeah, stand alone apps are great when you are in a car but what about all of us who need to plan for a trip knowing we can't take anything along? I'm frequently using the online map services to figure out a bike route to some location 10-15 miles way. I do have a handheld GPS but it take a long time to load, is slow, and is not something I want to take with me when I'm ridding across town to pick something up. At the same time I know I can't ride on certain roads (interstates) and there are certain turns I can make but cars can't. It would be so great to have a decent online service that could take that into consideration. I already print out a large map of the location I'm going so if I do get lost at least I have something to reference.

      The parent poster was correct about the improvements google can make this system that much better then anything else. I have a feeling if the "beta" period goes well they will start to work on those features, but a little encouragement won't hurt.

    4. Re:Features I would like. by cybersaga · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see a "stay in the country" feature. Going from Niagara Falls, ON to Vancouver, BC it sends you through the US. If I'd make the trip I would like to stay in Canada.
      Similarly, Detroit to Buffalo

    5. Re:Features I would like. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. javascript zoom-box, (like drag)

      Google acquired KeyHole sometime ago.. I wont be surprised if the include satellite images, in the actual release.

    6. Re:Features I would like. by slapout · · Score: 1

      Do any of the PC (non-internet based) map programs have any of this?

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    7. Re:Features I would like. by firew0lfz · · Score: 1

      Hope you don't mind, but I copied and pasted your comment to google using the feedback form on the http://maps.google.com page.

      Thought I'd just go ahead and give them some more things to work on.

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    8. Re:Features I would like. by fallen1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Yes, before anyone chimes in, I KNOW this is in beta. Still, I regularly visit friends in North Carolina and asked Google maps for directions and my usual 8 hour trip (taking major highways/interstates) became a 9.5+ hour trip taking me through several large cities on regular roads/drives/avenues/etc. and ignoring interstates for the most part. So, I think it is fscking fantastic, easy to use, fast as hell, but being beta still, of course, needs work - especially the trip algorithms and logic.

      Still, KUDOS GOOGLE! Very nice :)

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    9. Re:Features I would like. by rpcxdr · · Score: 1

      Also:

      Avoid Speed Traps

    10. Re:Features I would like. by stubear · · Score: 1

      Yes, Microsoft Streets and Trips does. I've been using it for years with few problems whatsoever. It's also good for finding things near you when you are on vacation and are looking for a good restaurant or decent walking/driving directions to a museum or ballpark (or wherever you may be going). Add to that the Pocket Streets and Trips and it's an immensely useful program (if you have a Pocket PC). This doesn't even begin to cover the GPS capabilities (VERY useful on my lst trip to San Francisco) and all the features requested by the original poster.

    11. Re:Features I would like. by rizzo420 · · Score: 1

      the one thing you left out... displays where the one-way streets are. i use mapquest and yahoo maps for my needs (actually, since i moved to RI, i've been using yahoo maps because mapquest can't seem to get RI right). mapquest has arrows in the one-way streets, yahoo does not. google should add these, makes it easier when looking at a map and planning your own route.

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    12. Re:Features I would like. by igny · · Score: 2, Funny

      Least number of turns (most direct route).

      But do they have Left turns only?

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    13. Re:Features I would like. by dohboy · · Score: 1

      Yet Another Feature...

      Evade Police (in realtime.)
      Option to display Wifi Hotspots.
      Option to display topological map.
      Option to display hooker hangouts.
      Interface it with Grand Theft Auto, so I can play
      Grand Theft Auto IV - Bath, Maine

    14. Re:Features I would like. by dlelash · · Score: 1

      Avoid Speed Traps

      (Come on, you know that Google knows where they are!)

    15. Re:Features I would like. by cpeterso · · Score: 1


      Why left turns only? Wouldn't right turns be preferable because you would never have to wait at a red light??

    16. Re:Features I would like. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Fastest Time Try SJC (San Jose, CA) to BOS (Boston, MA). Distance: 3165 mi (about 1 day 20 hours) or... Roughly 72MPH (no stopping!) door to door.

    17. Re:Features I would like. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dear NASCAR fan,

      Our cars can turn *both* ways.

      Sincerely,
      The Google Team

    18. Re:Features I would like. by g0_p · · Score: 1

      Check map24.com. Its got a lot of the features that you need (though not all..) Among other features you can plan a route where you can stop at the pharmacy while on your way to work from home and it will give you options to select the type of route that you want. You can even give the speeds that you think you can travel over various types of roads (say some highway is crowded and you cant go over 20 miles/hr on that highway..) and recalculate the fastest route possible..

    19. Re:Features I would like. by Vivski · · Score: 1

      Live online GPS tracking of my car.

    20. Re:Features I would like. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up, dammit!

  34. Re:Incredible - if only it used open standards by ianturton · · Score: 1
    The Open GeoSpatial Consortium has worked hard to develop open interopeability standards to do this sort of thing. The web map server standard is even an ISO standard. But no google had to do thier own thing so I have another mapping application to learn. That may not seem a big thing to you but as a geographer I already have to use 10-15 diferent mapping tools.

    If you want to see open web mapping standards in action (and maps of the whole world) try here or look at some of NASA's data here

    Ian

  35. Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends) by Spoing · · Score: 5, Informative
    'Google kicks all types of ass;

    maps.google.com

    Here's the kicker;

    * They used DHTML and Javascript

    * They did _not_ use Flash

    Go take a look and consider that...

    * No need to use the on-screen arrows to move around

    * Left click and hold can be used to drag the map

    * The arrow keys and other keys on your keyboard also work (PgUp, PgDn, +, -, ...)

    While the useful part of the map is limited to the 50 US States, Puerto Rico, and the populated areas of Canada, it does not have local boarders (drag from Alaska or Hawaii to Florida or the Canadian wilderness if you want). Zoom all the way in before you think they left something out. It looks to be complete.

    * The vector-generated maps are very readable when printed

    * It uses Google's Local search; if you haven't tried that, give it a whirl (example: Choose a location on the main page, click Local when the location appears, and punch in "pizza" or "atms". Not perfect; "beer" and "pub" don't work so well, though oddly "brew" returns some good results. :( )'

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  36. The world according to Google by hcdejong · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. only one continent
    2. Canada is empty (OK, not too far off)
    3. The center of the world is Coffeyville, Kansas
    4. Nice choice of map - see the distortion at the top. That's one thing you should be able to avoid online.

    Good thing it's a beta, then...

    1. Re:The world according to Google by Spoing · · Score: 1
      1. 2. Canada is empty (OK, not too far off)

      Canada _is_mostly_ empty. If you know where a road runs, zoom in. You won't see it on the map unless you get close enough. Large areas of Peurto Rico are like that too, let alone the midwest.

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    2. Re:The world according to Google by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 1
      1. only one continent

      Well, it *used* to be.

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    3. Re:The world according to Google by acb · · Score: 3, Funny

      I wonder whether anyone has told the Coffeyville, KS chamber of commerce; they could start printing Center of the World postcards and T-shirts, and rename the local diner the Center of the World Diner, and hopefully rake in the tourist bucks.

    4. Re:The world according to Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You know, the ancient Romans thought themselves to be the center of the world. Their proof was something like: Why would the center of the world be anywhere else? In fact "Mediterranean" literally means "Middle of the Earth" (not to be confused with "Middle Earth").

  37. How interesting. by theirpuppet · · Score: 1


    Go west and you'll just find the pacific.
    Go east and you'll just find the atlantic.

    The US _is_ the center of the universe. Bush was right all along.

    1. Re:How interesting. by Cokelee · · Score: 1

      You're a dumbass..

  38. having worked with gis software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I really like the tile approach google is using. Rather than send 1 large file, they've designed their rendering software to take a picture and break it up into tiles. pretty sweet. it's not a new idea, but the way they've implemented it much nicer than my own attempts a few years back using mapquest.

  39. Missing save feature by jvj24601 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I never use Mapquest. I use maps.yahoo.com, and when I login with my yahoo id (started using it for mail, now I just use it for everything but mail because gmail rocks), I am able to name and save specific locations. So now I have all of my son's soccer and basketball game locations available for instant lookup.

    When Google Maps gets this feature and allows me to save locations linked to my gmail account, I'll switch over. The new interface in Google Maps is cool, but Yahoo maps (and Mapquest, I suspect) is good enough - especially for simply printout out map and driving directions.

    1. Re:Missing save feature by Alascom · · Score: 1

      Click "Link to this page" in the upper right corner of the map, then bookmark the link or email it to yourself....

      The "Link to this page" option creates a URL suitable for recreating the exact query you have on the map.

  40. Speaking of Google launches... by museumpeace · · Score: 1

    How many of you noticed that your allotment of Gmail invites jumped up to 50 from 6 the night before last? Is Google getting ready to take gmail out of beta?

    This map thing kinda makes up for them charging $30 for Keyhole

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    1. Re:Speaking of Google launches... by HeghmoH · · Score: 1

      I've had ten invites left since forever, and it's still ten today. The huge jump must not be including everybody.

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    2. Re:Speaking of Google launches... by vikramrn · · Score: 1

      My 'invites left' keep jumping back to 50 practically every other morning no matter how many I send out!

  41. map24 is much better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try map24.com. Their java applet kicks googles ass. And they have the US and Europe.

  42. Works in K-Meleon 0.8.2 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Works in K-Meleon 0.8.2, so it should also work in K-Meleon 0.9.

    Of course, K-Meleon is Gecko-based, just like Camino for Mac OS X.

  43. What would really be killer.... by PornMaster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is if this worked on my Treo 300.

    The maps look so much cleaner than others I've seen, and might actually be somewhat understandable on the small screen. I really think it would be amazing if combined with Google Local, I could put in an address in New York, and "pizza" and have a map with the nearest pizza joint.

    1. Re:What would really be killer.... by nharmon · · Score: 1

      Done.

      Click on "Local search" at the top of Google maps.

    2. Re:What would really be killer.... by ek_adam · · Score: 1

      You can get that now with the Garmin iQue 3600. You don't even need to enter an address. Flip up the GPS antenna, lock on, search for "pizza" and it will show all pizza joints sorted by distance from you.

  44. Pretty Good by TheVampire · · Score: 1

    Liked the interface and the speed. However, checking my local area turned up some errors in road names, a missing lake, and a town shown with a name that disappeared about 15 years ago when it was swallowed up and incorporated into a larger town nearby.

    Ditto the comments that we want other countries included. I'd like to see Japan, for one. And I'd like to get topo maps as an option. Yeah, I know I can get topo maps from terraserver, but it's only the USA as well.

  45. Woo hoo! Drop shadows! by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now I'll NEVER get lost again! It's too bad the inventor of the drop shadow never filed a patent...

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  46. This is awesome. by DamienNightbane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I love the fact that the map loads nearly as fast as I can scroll. It's size is really nice too. Even better, the route marker it puts on the map when it gives directions isn't in the way, like it is on Mapquest.

    Add to that the wonderful UI, and I think that Google has a real winner here.

    By the way, all of you complaining that the map is USA only should note that this is only a beta. Chances are that when the full version is released, it will cover as much, or more, of the world than Mapquest.

    1. Re:This is awesome. by UMhydrogen · · Score: 1
      For me the page took almost a minute to load. The startup page with the map of the USA took about 30 seconds to load and I ended up sitting there waiting for the maps with directions and route markers to load. Although I was highly impressed by the actual functionatily, it must be a goal of google to make it faster. I can imagine that the java(script) or whatever programming behind the coding of that takes a decent amount of time to load. But just like gmail, I'm sure we'll see speed increases.

      On another note, I managed to refresh my gmail inbox, open an email, close an email and open another email in the time that it took for the google maps page to load, so no, my T1 internet connection is not just really slow.

    2. Re:This is awesome. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unlike yahoo maps, here if you type in a non-existant address, it points to an approximation without telling the user that she typed a non-existant (or at least nt in DB) address. Many people will see the hit, and assume it to be their result.

      B

  47. Clumsy and butt-ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful
    As usual, the standard is clumsy and ugly.

    No thanks. I prefer Google's version.

  48. Love the UI by yelohbird · · Score: 1

    Sure, it's still rough on the edges (text and textbox inputs on the right are overlapping the map image), but it's amazing improvement over the others, and decent for a beta release.

    First and foremost, I find the click-and-drag function on the map so much more appealing than the "click north" of mapquest and yahoo maps. Many minor yet significant factors like clearer indication of highway on/off ramps (mapquest doesn't even have ramps), actual width dimensions of the roads (as opposed to thick/thin lines), more pleasant color schemes (less contrast...mapquest's red highways hurt the eyes!), and very smooth integration with Google Local.

    The directions seem to work well, and I think the most important improvement in the directions is the ability to zoom and pan in to any portion of the route to see it clearer (as opposed to the standard origin and destination zoomed maps provided by competitors

    Google Maps has just won over the heart of one more customer!

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    1. Re:Love the UI by crimson+king · · Score: 1

      I agree. It's very simple to use and it feels natural to me. Too bad Google doesn't have an OS because it'd be stable and easy to use.

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  49. Awesome! by sfontain · · Score: 1

    I just ran some maps through here and it's great! It is TONS easier to soak up the lay of the land than in MapQuest.

  50. Apprarently not Halifax though (yet) by ClassicG · · Score: 1

    Actually, it seems that Halifax isn't quite all there after all. I tried zooming in, and once you go in past the first couple levels, most of Nova Scotia disappears. Some of it is still there - the western half of the area west of Halifax is available at all zoom levels, but it seems they don't have the close-in data for anything east of that.

    Oh well, it's still an extremely impressive interface (like somebody else mentioned, one of the best web apps ever), and hopefully they'll expand the range of the available data soon.

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  51. Other Differences From Mapquest... by geoffrobinson · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1) They won't take you the wrong way down one-way streets.

    2) They will get you to your destination instead of 95% of the way there.

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    1. Re:Other Differences From Mapquest... by rjune · · Score: 1

      With regard to Mapquest only getting you 95% there: You are not the only one who has been left lost in the wilderness. I don't where you were looking for directions, but I have had problems with Mapquest all over the greater Milwaukee area (including Ozaukee County to the north and Waukesha County to the west)

    2. Re:Other Differences From Mapquest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mapquest is kind of stinky.
      But its saving grace is that it shows one-way streets when you zoom in close enough.
      Google lives in California, and doesn't know from one-way streets (neither does Yahoo maps).

      Living in Boston, i've learned never to rely on anyone's directions except the person i'm going to visit.
      (*cough* learn to read a map?)

    3. Re:Other Differences From Mapquest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google relies on NavTeQ and TeleAtlas data to get you there, as does MapQuest. The only difference between the two is going to be how google interprets the data.

    4. Re:Other Differences From Mapquest... by rob_squared · · Score: 1
      " 1) They won't take you the wrong way down one-way streets."

      In Boston, Massachusetts we call those "shortcuts."

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    5. Re:Other Differences From Mapquest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok, try out these directions.

      Not good at all. First off they got the wrong side of Miami International. The side they show is the cargo area, not the passenger areas. Secondly most folks here go to 836 straight into downtown because it's easier.

      PS: You should come and drive here and look for the airport. Practially *EVERY* highway has a sign with a plane on it, because you can go almost any direction and *eventually* find the airport. (Hey, we try and help the tourists :).

  52. Except locations are sometimes wrong by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    Do a hotels near DCA serach - it shows the Sheraton north of teh Marriott Crystal Gateway, it is actually a block or so south - I think they reversed the pushpins

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    1. Re:Except locations are sometimes wrong by Secrity · · Score: 1

      For some reason all of the web maps have my office on the wrong corner of a major intersection; my offices is on the NE corner and the maps show that my office is on the SW corner.

  53. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    * They used DHTML and Javascript

    * They did _not_ use Flash


    * They did _not_ write cross browser code.

    * No need to use the on-screen arrows to move around

    Yeah, also...

    * No need to look outside a country, since no other exist.

  54. Directions are acceptable -- but not optimized by rjune · · Score: 1

    I ran a few maps and the results were acceptable in that the routes are workable and can be followed. However, someone who is familiar with the streets would take a different route. In my example, Google exited me off the freeway one earlier than anyone who knew the area at all would have used. However, I have used Mapquest and found a lot of errors, especially in the distances. Yahoo maps are all right, but they aren't all that clear. I like the map display in Google much better. So, I don't care if this is a Beta release, I going to use this for when I need directions. (Which is fairly frequently as my job entails visiting various locations all over the State.)

    1. Re:Directions are acceptable -- but not optimized by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

      I think some of the local knowledge stuff would be hard to get anyway, unless you went over the entire map system adding hand tuned bits (anyone going to Springfield goes through this exit, unless they're going to Bob's Pizza...), most of it's going to be run through an automated process, which is dumb, and will go for what it thinks is the obvious route.

      Although I suppose formulas and data might improve a bit, it would probably be impossible to completley eliminate the stupid routefinders. Although they hopefully won't send you through eleven countries anymore.

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  55. Re:Incredible - if only it used open standards by HeghmoH · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Um, ok.... those two services you linked to? They suck compared to this. They're a big reload fest, just like all other traditional web apps. Click, wait for a new picture to load, repeat endlessly. It's not interactive, it's just a normal web page with links that do interesting things.

    Google's service does live zooms, live scrolling, and never leaves me waiting. If it requires breaking standards to accomplish that, then so be it. Nobody's forcing you to use it.

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  56. supreme interface!!! by michalf · · Score: 1

    It seems as the interface is supreme to other online maps. With some enhancements - it will be no longer necessary to buy any "boxed" computer maps.

    I just hope they will cover more than just the USA. But knowing the Google's desire for domination... Just good luck!

    michal

  57. A really cool feature by Moby+Cock · · Score: 1

    The Google guys are some clever. Its like they think through their work and make it work before releasing it. Once again a Google beta is better than the cometitions live app.

    The coolest feature on the maps is the "Link to this page" button. While you can do similar things with Mapquest, the Google guys have realised linking to maps is very important. Just another piece of evidence of their forethought.

    Overall, this is one of the cooler web apps I've seen in a while. Knowing that Google want to organise the 'world's info' they are sure to roll out maps for Europe, Asia and the rest of the world soon.
    I wonder if somefday this will be linked up with the data thet got when they bought Keyhole. That was a sat imaging firm, IIRC. It would be pretty bitchin' if they had a "see photo" button on a subsequent release of this app.

  58. Insensitive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm Norwegian you insensitive clods!

    (no 'wege maps like on Mapquest)

  59. [tt]:800lb gorilla by tomhudson · · Score: 1
    Google is going to become the next Microsoft.
    No, and here's why:
    1. When Bill Gates clicked on the EULA for his pact with the devil, it was an exclusive, non-terminating deal. Gates wanted a "monopoly on computer evil, dammit!"
    2. Google gives us what we want. Microsoft gives you what they want.
    3. PROFIT! (as in, they already got).
  60. Epic 2014, anyone? by tvh2k · · Score: 1

    I think we just made another step towards Epic 2014

  61. Must be a bug by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 2, Funny

    I did a search for Apple Computer Inc Cupertino CA and I got an Infinite Loop ...

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  62. Centre of the map by PhilHibbs · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, who lives closest to the intersection of 2200 Rd and 4300 Rd, Coffeyville, Kansas? Just keep clicking the "+" button, and that's where the exact centre of Google's map of the US is. Just north of Coffeyville Country Club.

    1. Re:Centre of the map by jafuser · · Score: 1

      I wonder if Casey's Carry Out Pizza knows that they are the first hit for a "local" nationwide search for "pizza" =)

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    2. Re:Centre of the map by the+pickle · · Score: 1

      You got modded funny -- and it is -- but I'll bet the reason for this is Coffeyville is very very close to the geographic centre of the United States.

      If Google had been smarter, they would have made it centre on the population density centre of the United States, so that on average, people would have to do less dragging to centre any individual residence.

      p

    3. Re:Centre of the map by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Isn't that where the Gales' cottage was located, Once Upon A Time?

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    4. Re:Centre of the map by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      The book says "in the midst of the great Kansas prairies", the point I referred to is right on the southern edge of Kansas. Do the Kansas Prairies extend into Oklahome, down towards Owasso?

      BTW, there are some impressive reservoirs in that geographic area.

  63. Re:Incredible - if only it used open standards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Isn't it funny how some people come up with standards and expect everyone to follow them, but at the same time refuse to follow other standards?

  64. Mappy has it by mbaciarello · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mappy, an originally French service, has very good maps with public transportation and driving directions support. Maps are in flash, so they look smoother than usual.

    Their database of local resources is pretty much empty, though, at least for Italy.

    It's available in .fr, .co.uk, .it, .es and .nl flavors.

    1. Re:Mappy has it by jrumney · · Score: 1

      The UK version is useless. It won't go any more fine grained than "London City" for me, refusing to recognise any postcodes or street addresses I input.

  65. What's the distance? by nurbles · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google's maps seem to be missing at least one fundamental map feature: a scale of distance. They have a nifty slider and a not-so-nifty scrolling feature (I cannot find any way to select my own center point (never mind, just discovered I can clikc'n'drag)). But they are lacking anything that would allow me to estimate the distance between two points on the map. At last a standard scale can be used for guessing. A TRULY fancy feature would be an option to click on start, and have the display dynamically highlight the route and show the distance... If anyone can do it, the Googlites can, right? (smile)

    1. Re:What's the distance? by dankelley · · Score: 1
      Ditto the parent. What kind of map has no scale?

      I thought teachers failed kids who didn't put scales on their maps. Oh, wait, kids aren't allowed to fail anymore. I must be an old fart. Nevermind.

    2. Re:What's the distance? by covertbadger · · Score: 1

      You can select your own centre point by double-clicking. I agree about the scale though.

  66. Boy does that suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just tried it. That has to be the worst map using experience I've ever had. As a comparison, check out http://www.map24.com. The zooming is *smooth*. The Google one is really hard to pinpoint where you want to zoom and then have it go to that specific area. I kept zooming into the middle of the Atlantic. I also think this is a good example of a company over stretching its bounds. They should return and focus a bit more on their core search product. Increasinly I don't find relevant information and overall there are *way* too many product-focused results. It's as if they are trying to replace their main search product with Froogle.

  67. I just mapped my route to work... by Bohnanza · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ..and it failed to notice the highway connection. It sends me through back roads by the geographically most direct route, then tells me that the 45-minute drive (I've done it) will take 19 minutes. It looks nice, but it needs some work. It seems they are ignoring/miscalculating travel time. Mapquest, on the other hand, gives me the route I've found to be fastest.

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    1. Re:I just mapped my route to work... by Seoulstriker · · Score: 1

      Well, Google maps give me the direction from my home to my office along community-known short-cuts and faster routes. Mapquest takes me unncessarily on a major interstate for a few miles which is out of the way to the office. Google maps finds the best way to my office. Mapquest, on the other hand, gives me the slower and longer route.

      So, what's your point? That a beta service didn't find the fastest route for you? It certainly found my fastest route.

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    2. Re:I just mapped my route to work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seems like they use different heuristics. I know a friend who would take longer route just to use the interstate -- he thinks that is faster. I myself bike/walk. So I prefer geographically direct ( and safe) bike routes.

    3. Re:I just mapped my route to work... by iso · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the directions seem increadibly bad right now. Even if you don't know Toronto, you'll recognize that the following directions are a very bad way to get from point A to point B:

      http://warpzero.info/images/GoogleDirections.png

      This is definitely a beta, and it looks like their primary focus was on the interface, not the functionality.

    4. Re:I just mapped my route to work... by Bohnanza · · Score: 1
      So, what's your point? That a beta service didn't find the fastest route for you?

      My point, as I said, was that it still needs work, and I gave an example. I also sent it to Google as feedback.

      BTW, the page does not indicate that the service is "beta".

      I have little doubt that Google Maps will be inproved and will likely become the best service of its kind available. Mapquest has, if anything, become LESS useful in recent years. They have expended no effort in improving, and it will cost them dearly.

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  68. A great use by BlueTooth · · Score: 1

    What I just did with google maps is something that I don't _think_ you can do (at least as easily) with the others. Last year I went to an Indian restaurant that I liked...but I'd forgotten the name an location. I knew that it was near the Cambridgeside Galleria (mall), so I started my search by typing that in. The first pushpin thing was a match, so I zoomed in to get myself a nice big map of that part of cambridge. I then typed "Restaurants" as my search and the pushpins repopulated with all the restaurants in the area. Bingo, found it, quick and easy. Google was kind enough to also point me to a number of review sites and the like.

    My experience with mapquest is that it is very finicky about what you search for, and will only accept very well formed addresses and intersections. Of course Mapquest's big business is in liscensing their tech. It will be interesting to see if Google does this also, and how the market is affected.

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  69. [tt] :Apprarently not Halifax though (yet) by Porn+Whitelist · · Score: 1
    Google is Never Wront (tm)!

    If the eastern half of Halifax is missing, it's because you're about to be inundated by a tsunami of gigantic proportions, and be wiped off the map. Prepare yourself.

    After all, they must be right. They took Ottawa off the main map, and Ottawa's been "way off the map" for a while ...

  70. perhaps? by tidepool · · Score: 1

    perhaps we'll return to our roots and they'll call it 'GeOS'. ;)

    Ah, love the c64.

  71. The better map service: by Laurentiu · · Score: 1

    Map24. It's free, stable, Java-based, and also includes the good ol' Yurp. And it will find a shorter roadbetween Haugesund and Trondheim, Norway than mappoint.

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  72. Nice Start: Needs Work by SenFo · · Score: 1

    The only complaint I have thus far is that I believe they should seperate the fields a bit more for address, city, state, zip, etc. It's not really too bad because it did parse my input correctly. It's just confusing and I think it would look nicer if the fields were seperate.

  73. Forget Mapquest and MapPoint... by dantheman82 · · Score: 1

    Wow! Amazing stuff for being on the web. The fact that they support Firefox is awesome! This is basically true map-like quality! The link-it feature is cool too, as is the fact that double-clicking CENTERS the map on the current location!

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  74. Awesome by Steamhead · · Score: 1

    Works perfect in Safari even though I had to click twice to go in. Now if only it had Canada so i could use it :^).

  75. For Europe maps... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's really hard to beat Map24.

  76. Damn by wikinerd · · Score: 1

    "Your browser is not supported by Google Maps just yet" - Konqueror

  77. Lack of printing options by mattspammail · · Score: 1

    One thing they'll need to add soon is printing options. Turn by turn, etc.

    When I print a map, it's for one reason only... to take and run out the door.

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    1. Re:Lack of printing options by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The next version will allow you to pan the maps with your fingers on the printed page. Google technology is so FANTASTIC they can accmoplish this with the printer already in your home!

      Fanboy

  78. [tt]:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Porn+Whitelist · · Score: 2, Funny
    thant develop the super product that costs way too much to manufacuture and no one would use ALL the features.
    Well, you just flushed your job interview at Redmond.
    1. Re:[tt]:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Ohreally_factor · · Score: 1

      Now what about those of us who have to hold a map upside-down over our head to make sense of the orientation? Frigging monitors are HEAVY.

      And what if your destination is further away than your longest extension cord?

      But seriously, this is an improvement over the other services I've tried. It's locating my house wrong, but a lot closer to the correct location than mapquest locates it. I'd say Google is only off by 20 meters, whereas mapquest and others are about 500 meters off.

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    2. Re:[tt]:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Christianfreak · · Score: 1

      And there's a little bug - if you search for a city, its name appears on the right. Now, zoom out, and zoom in on another city. The city name doesn't change.

      You've been able to do the same thing with Mapquest forever, it just takes longer to load each section.

    3. Re:[tt]:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by Drakonian · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, Calgary and Edmonton seem to be the two biggest bugs on there that I have seen. I wonder why the map images don't load.

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    4. Re:[tt]:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by BandwidthHog · · Score: 1

      Last I looked, Montreal and Toronto, and even small parts of Vancouver, are still in Canada.

      Oops, oversight on our part, thanks for the reminder. I think we've got some Boy Scout troops sitting around in the woods whittling birhouses and buggering each other. Consider it taken care of.

      Oh, and uh, got any oil wells up there?

      How about coal mines?

      Violent coups don't just grow on trees, ya know. Freedom(TM) takes a whole damn lot of natural resources, eh?

      Huh, you've still got trees? *HOW* many acres of old hardwoods? Hmm. We'll be right up.

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  79. How about my car keys? by LemonFire · · Score: 2, Funny

    With Googles ability to find just about anything I thought that I was in luck, however a search for my car keys at my residential address came up with nothing.
    Bummer.

  80. Mousewheel zoom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Still waiting for mousewheel zoom! As it stands though, it definitely beats all the other competition.

    1. Re:Mousewheel zoom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They need to make it work like Paintshop Pro, where it'll zoom in/out with the mousewheel, and wherever your mouse is located becomes the new center... extremely effective.

  81. Lat/long please... by javatips · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The user interface is really nice and cool while being simple.

    However, like most other online mapping application, they don't provide geographic coordinates which could be used in a GPS device.

    Right now, I'm using using Multimap most of the time, even if their maps are a bit outdated, because they provide geographic coordinates.

    If they google where to provide geographics coordinate, at least for driving direction, with a way to download them in a text or xml file, it will beat the compitition without any doubt.

    1. Re:Lat/long please... by crimson+king · · Score: 1

      Lat and long coordinates would be nice but this is just a beta. Maybe they'll be in the final release?

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    2. Re:Lat/long please... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      You can't get them turn by turn, but you can get the lat/long for the center of a map. Look at the URL for the "Link to this page" link. One parameter is ll, and it gives you lat/long in decimal.

  82. Map info not free by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

    The rest of the planet's governments doesn't produce detailed mapping information and release it into the public domain.

  83. Google might have used USPS data for the US by Gaurang · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As I understand, all these services like Yahoo Maps, Mapquest, Mappoint, and Google Maps might be using United States Postal Service (USPS) (or some other such govt org) data on street level maps and coordinates. (This is only my understanding, it MIGHT BE COMPLETELY WRONG).

    And the problem is that, such data is not easily available for other countries. Hence, we can not expect Google to go and map out all the countries in the world when they start their beta service.

    Even if such data exists for other countries compiled by their respective organizations, it will possibly take more effort and time to integerate with "n" number of organizations' data in various formats. Just like Yahoo Maps and Mapquest provide very less coverage of other countries.

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    1. Re:Google might have used USPS data for the US by jrumney · · Score: 1
      And the problem is that, such data is not easily available for other countries.

      mapquest, multimap and others don't seem to have any problem covering the whole world. Some countries are covered in less detail than others, but this comes down mainly to which maps they licensed. It is certainly nothing to do with the USPS.

    2. Re:Google might have used USPS data for the US by 2short · · Score: 2, Informative

      I deal with map data a lot, and your understanding is at least mostly wrong. USPS data blows chunks for streets; If mail dosen't get delivered there (all highways) they have no reason to care. And they never have a reason to care exactly where the street is, the mail carrier just has to be able to drive along it. The Census has better data, called TIGER, which is half decent, but they only really worry about it being up to date every ten years. For really good, up-to-date data like these services will all need, you're going to be paying big $ to one of a few companies that produce it (by examining aerial photos and even driving around to check).

      The part of your understanding that is right is that if you pay, you can get pretty good data for all the roads in the US in one big consistent format and quality pile. Some other countries have good data, but you probably need to work to connect it across borders. For size of market handled by one data set, the US is king, and any US based company in their right mind would start there. Note that all of this is constantly changing, and in particular the EU may soon pass the US on the market size vs. data hassle equation.

  84. very impressive! by Complicity · · Score: 5, Funny
    I searched for prostitutes near my address, and it came back with the following:
    • Eastern Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church In Canada
    • St Mary's Coptic Orthodox Church
    • Customers For Life Inc
    • Brantford Public Library
    • Children's Aid Society of Haldimand-Norfolk
    • Oxford Self-Help Network
    Google teaches us so many things!
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    1. Re:very impressive! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did a similar search:

      brothels near las vegas, nevada

      (There are several legal ones in the next county).

      The results included the LV branch of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

      Tried a similar search for Scottsdale Arizona, and John Kerry for President campaign headquarters was one of the results.

      You draw your own conclusions....

  85. Awesome... Interesting Links in Results Though by Taliesan999 · · Score: 1

    Awesome interface, very intuitive, nice graphical touches too. Google has a real winner here. No Australia/Sydney yet, but it is only a Beta. Can't wait.

    One interesting thing though, I typed in "Pet Stores Springfield" just for fun (ok I was bored), as expected I got a list of pet related matches in Springfield, IL. The first on the list is a company called Petsmart. Clicked on the "24 more" in the balloon and got a layout of the address plus a closeup of the map and other search results. The interesting thing is clicking "driving directions@ on the address takes you to MapQuest. Could be because the link comes from something called "superpages.com" and Google is just displaying the link. It kind of blends in with their own mapping related links though.

  86. Rubbish! by eric.t.f.bat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I went looking for some cities I know of in the US, and the coverage is spotty, to say the least. New York is there, of course, but I went south to New Jersey and Delaware, and both Gotham and Metropolis are missing. Duh! Iowa and Minnesota exist, but Central City and Keystone are missing. Boston and Seattle are there, but no sign of Hub City, Gateway City, Star City -- need I go on? Obviously Coast City isn't there, but there's no marker for where it WAS.

    Pretty shakey all round. Not impressed.

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    1. Re:Rubbish! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why it's still in Beta.

    2. Re:Rubbish! by ats-tech · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing when I couldn't find my little town. . . Until I zoomed in and it was there.

    3. Re:Rubbish! by Cheeze · · Score: 3, Funny

      Did you search for Vice City or San Andreas?

      Those cities are gangland.

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    4. Re:Rubbish! by AverageWhiteGuy · · Score: 1

      I live on a small road within a condo complex, and Google ignores it. Mapquest and yahoo have had us listed for years. Pretty maps, nice interface, but weak data.

    5. Re:Rubbish! by Racter · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, Google Maps correctly marks streets as detouring around the destroyed central area of Pittsburgh, so it isn't all bad.

    6. Re:Rubbish! by PMuse · · Score: 1

      I went looking for some cities I know of in the US, and the coverage is spotty, to say the least. . . . Pretty shakey all round. Not impressed.

      Likewise, there are errors in the data for my metro area, as well as for some areas I know to be misrepresented on previous map services. They have a gorgeous interface, but they need better data. It's not OK to display beautiful maps that are 95% correct.

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    7. Re:Rubbish! by detour207 · · Score: 1

      Yea I had trouble locating 742 Evergreen Terrace, Springfield as well.

    8. Re:Rubbish! by hburch · · Score: 1
      There appears to be some problem where some city names are never shown. I could not, for example, get Socorro, NM to show up on the map. But, if you searched for it, it showed the detail of the city, including labelling its airport (such as it is).

      Lacks a scale as far as I can tell too. Overall, good, but while the user interface is better than MapQuest (faint praise indeed), it could be better (like allowing me to see the entire address I type in). On the other hand, no UI is perfect.

    9. Re:Rubbish! by mbbac · · Score: 1

      It also doesn't have Racoon City.

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    10. Re:Rubbish! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think San Andreas is a city.

      But Los Santos, San Fierro and Las Venturas are definitely missing.

      So is Liberty City.

    11. Re:Rubbish! by rob_squared · · Score: 1

      Don't complain, sounds like you at least found Smallville.

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    12. Re:Rubbish! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Central City and Keystone are in Colorado!
      And they're both there.

    13. Re:Rubbish! by Vivski · · Score: 1

      What?! The beta version doesn't have every pothole in every road in the universe?! What a sham!

    14. Re:Rubbish! by eric.t.f.bat · · Score: 1

      (Heh... I'm glad SOMEONE remembers that... I wonder if it will show the blasted areas of the Antarctic when it eventually extends down there.)

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  87. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by Spoing · · Score: 1
    1. * They did _not_ write cross browser code. \

      * No need to look outside a country, since no other exist.

    It's beta? I don't know what other response you're looking for....

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  88. Drop shadows? by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

    Excuse me? Drop shadows are one of the touted features? MORE crap on a map that I don't NEED is an advantage??

    It burns! IT BURNS!

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    1. Re:Drop shadows? by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 1

      If you don't need the map, why do you even care?

    2. Re:Drop shadows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think this is the first I've seen maps that are "beautiful."

      While I don't expect everyone to see the beauty of the things around them, do you really have to bag on it?

    3. Re:Drop shadows? by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

      Ever heard the phrase "Form follows function"? Beauty is all well and good, but if the drop shadow makes the street name harder to read on the map, I don't want it. Ultimately a map is a reference tool, and I don't care how pretty it is if I can't use it effectively.

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    4. Re:Drop shadows? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's just it. So quit being a moron and try the map.

      Drop shadows are not meant to hide data, but to make a stronger difference between interface and data. The minor, tiny drop shadows on the interface controls make it much easier on the eyes to quickly locate controls, without overlapping data.

      Google maps does it quite well.

  89. Interface by m_member · · Score: 1

    Not wishing to be critical, oh all right...

    There is no 'click to zoom', if you want to zoom into a specific area you have to position it in the middle of the area and zoom it seperately. That's really clumsy, it needs to either click to zoom or have a drag box to select an area.

    Now someone is going to tell me i've missed the big 'Click to Zoom' button on it I imagine.

  90. NICE MAPS! by erroneus · · Score: 1

    The image quality is clear and of print quality. I hope that never changes. I am sick of those little tiny maps from Yahoo! and the like. This is vastly more useful.

  91. iohcc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what, does google have their own obfuscated html / javascript contests?

  92. [tt]:Forget IE/Firefox etc... by tomhudson · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Last I looked, Montreal and Toronto, and even small parts of Vancouver, are still in Canada.

    And there's a little bug - if you search for a city, its name appears on the right. Now, zoom out, and zoom in on another city. The city name doesn't change.

    I'm looking at Montreal (street level), and i says I'm still looking at Ottawa.

    This will be GREAT for practical jokes - "Need directions? Here's the map of downtown New York (hands over map of Detroit that says "New York" on it).

    Now what about those of us who have to hold a map upside-down over our head to make sense of the orientation? Frigging monitors are HEAVY.

  93. Looks very similar to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  94. Less information by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

    They apparently traded a cleaner look for less information. There's no markings for one-way streets... That'll be a real problem in some jurisdictions.

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    1. Re:Less information by greenhide · · Score: 1

      Most maps I've seen don't have this information.

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    2. Re:Less information by Dracolytch · · Score: 1

      Many maps do not, but some maps do. In this case, Google's competition does. So, if you're in downtown Baltimore, where there are a ~lot~ of one-way streets, which map would you prefer to use?

      ~D

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  95. mod parent up by KiloByte · · Score: 1, Redundant

    A must see.

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  96. fantastic! by __aaitqo8496 · · Score: 1

    best... mapping... service... ever

  97. Definitely beta by kaszeta · · Score: 1
    I gave it a run.....Definitely better than mapquest....Map moves smoothly, instead of having to click and wait for a reload. Nicer interface....

    Seems nice, aside from apparently not knowing any addresses in New Hampshire outside of the major cities (None of my test addresses in Hanover, Enfield, Claremont, or Grantham work).

    It also has some very, very bizarre routing. For example, to go from Grantham, NH to Manchester NH (a simple drive S on I-89), it has me go *North* on I-89 for 6.2 miles and then turn around.

    Hopefully they'll get a full database online sometime, and fix the obvious glitches...

  98. Most Impressive! by CrazyTalk · · Score: 1
    And I don't say that often, especially about software or a web site. Not only the quick zooming and scrolling of the maps, but the directions - I typed in my home address, and a popup asked me if I wanted directions to or from there. I typed in my work address - a somewhat complex, 25 mile route that mapquest could never quite figure out, and it gave me accurate directions for what I found out on my own to be the shortest route.

    I will never use mapquest or yahoo maps again.

  99. Inspired me to create an account. by kevin_davis · · Score: 1

    Only to say wow.. and apparently I live on 'Promenade Uplands'.. not 'Uplands Drive' as I had previously thought.

  100. Island state in Europe? Hmm by pjt33 · · Score: 1
    the tiny island state in Europe, what's its name already?
    Malta?
  101. KeyHole? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone think these could eventually tie in with Google's Purchase of KeyHole?

  102. Impressive by TheVidiot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The interface here, and that of Gmail, is truly impressive. It's astounding what Google has accomplished here in web applications, simply blowing away those apps that have had many, many years of dedicated development in the area.

    If you have experience creating map sites with ArcIMS or any of the major GIS software, you know that this interface and speed are unmatched.

    To simply leap over the competition like this is something that's been missing in software for a long time...

    1. Re:Impressive by rlds · · Score: 1

      Agree, this is an eye opener for those of us who have used GIS software. Response time is amazing.

  103. mapquest? Try map24.com instead. by BilliamBlake · · Score: 1

    I know mapquest is a nice site but I find that no one here mentioned http://map24.com/. I prefer it to mapquest and it seems to have some features that google does not yet have. But the google site is also excellent. Google scares me and I hate to think that every new place I go to with the assistance of google maps could be stored somewhere. The way google is growing we better think about our future: http://oak.psych.gatech.edu/~epic/

    1. Re:mapquest? Try map24.com instead. by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 1

      map24 is very pretty. However, it crashes the Java on firefox/OS X. Re: EPIC, I will go out on a limb here and say that guy's scenario is laughable.

  104. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by glass_window · · Score: 1

    Zoom all the way in before you think they left something out. It looks to be complete.

    Well I can tell you they left out the one-way streets with their directions, those can be very important if you're making driving directions. How unfortunate for those who live in a city full of them!

  105. Example searches on the right by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 1

    Being a regular Mapquest user, I was a bit confused by the boxes on the right. Why are there two in each category? Where do I type in my search? Can I type in a home address in the "find a business" box? Turns out those are exactly what the heading says - *example* searches. You still search from the main google box at the top. They just put the stuff on the right if you're too lazy to type something to try this out. IMO, they should have made those text links rather than form fields. They break the layout on Firefox/OS X - I get a perpetual horizontal scroller (doesn't happen after I've typed in my own search and the form on the right is gone). Was anyone else confused by this?

  106. What are google planning???! by madaxe42 · · Score: 5, Funny

    We could not calculate driving directions between miami and anchorage. We currently only support road-based driving directions.

    Coming soon - off road based driving directions!

    Turn left out of drive.
    Go through neighbours yard.
    Swerve to avoid barn
    Swerve to avoid cow
    Attatch floats to car, cross pond
    Drive across desert, hope for reliable engine
    Drive through mountains, attatch boring attatchment(yawn)
    Reach crevasse
    Plummet
    Go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200

    1. Re:What are google planning???! by fafalone · · Score: 1

      Microsoft Streets can do it. I have no love affair with Microsoft, but this is impressive. I live in Miami and have actually considered such a roadtrip, except to Barrow, the northernmost city in Alaska (Anchorage is in southern alaska).

      DAY 1 9:00 AM 0.0 Depart Miami on SR-9 [SW 27th Ave] (North) 0.7 mi
      9:01 AM 0.7 Turn RIGHT (East) onto US-1 [S Dixie Hwy] 1.7 mi
      9:04 AM 2.4 Road name changes to I-95 87.1 mi I-95
      10:24 AM 89.5 At exit 87B, take Ramp (RIGHT) onto SR-706 [W Indiantown Rd] 0.8 mi SR-706 / Okeechobee
      10:25 AM 90.4 Turn RIGHT onto Ramp 0.2 mi Florida's Turnpike
      10:26 AM 90.5 Keep LEFT to stay on Ramp 0.5 mi
      10:27 AM 91.0 *Toll road* Merge onto Florida's Tpke 191.9 mi
      1:17 PM 282.9 Take Ramp onto I-75 219.8 mi
      3:43 PM 427.5 Entering Georgia
      5:00 PM 502.7 End of day
      DAY 2
      Check your departure time; the next stop is in a different time zone.
      9:00 AM 502.7 Stay on I-75 [SR-401] 81.5 mi
      10:22 AM 584.2 At exit 156, take Ramp (LEFT) onto I-475 [SR-408] 15.4 mi I-475 / Atlanta
      10:37 AM 599.6 Take Ramp onto I-75 [SR-401] 179.0 mi I-75 / GA-401
      1:37 PM 777.5 Entering Tennessee
      1:38 PM 778.7 At exit 2, take Ramp (LEFT) onto I-24 214.6 mi I-24 / Chattanooga / Nashville
      1:50 PM 793.3 Entering Georgia
      1:54 PM 797.3 Entering Tennessee
      Resurfacing near Clarksville (NB) (May 10, 2004 - March 31, 2005)
      4:32 PM 965.6 Entering Kentucky
      Check local time; this stop is in a different time zone.
      5:00 PM 993.3 End of day
      DAY 3
      9:00 AM 993.3 Stay on I-24 103.7 mi
      10:06 AM 1059.0 Entering Illinois
      10:38 AM 1096.9 At exit 44B, take Ramp (LEFT) onto I-57 193.9 mi I-57 / Chicago
      1:20 PM 1290.8 At exit 237B, take Ramp (RIGHT) onto I-74 46.1 mi I-74 / Peoria
      1:58 PM 1336.9 Merge onto I-55 [I-74] 6.4 mi
      Construction between Bloomington and Normal (NB) (February 13, 2004 - March 31, 2005)
      2:04 PM 1343.4 At exit 164, take Ramp (RIGHT) onto I-39 [US-51] 123.9 mi I-39 / US-51 / Rockford
      3:50 PM 1467.2 Turn LEFT onto Ramp 0.4 mi I-90 / US-51 / Wisconsin
      3:50 PM 1467.6 *Toll road* Merge onto I-39 [I-90] 14.4 mi
      4:02 PM 1482.0 At exit 3, stay on I-39 [I-90] (North) 68.3 mi
      4:05 PM 1485.1 Entering Wisconsin
      5:00 PM 1550.3 End of day
      DAY 4
      9:00 AM 1550.3 Stay on I-39 [I-90] 13.3 mi
      9:11 AM 1563.6 At exit 108A-B, road name changes to I-90 [I-94] 63.5 mi
      10:04 AM 1627.1 Road name changes to I-94 156.0 mi I-94 / Eau Claire / St Paul
      12:06 PM 1773.7 Entering Minnesota
      12:14 PM 1783.1 Turn RIGHT onto Ramp 0.3 mi I-494 / I-694
      12:14 PM 1783.4 Take Ramp (RIGHT) onto I-694 11.1 mi I-694
      12:26 PM 1794.5 Merge onto I-35E [I-694] 0.7 mi
      12:26 PM 1795.2 Keep RIGHT onto I-694 18.4 mi I-694 / US-10
      12:45 PM 1813.7 Road name changes to I-94 [US-52] 220.1 mi I-94 / St Cloud
      3:48 PM 2031.2 Entering North Dakota
      3:50 PM 2033.7 At exit 349B, take Ramp (RIGHT) onto I-29 [US-81] 81.3 mi I-29 / Grand Forks
      5:00 PM 2115.0 End of day
      DAY 5
      9:00 AM 2115.0 Stay on I-29 [US-81] 73.3 mi
      10:01 AM 2188.3 Entering Manitoba
      10:01 AM 2188.3 Road name changes to HWY-75 [Lord Selkirk Hwy] 25.4 mi
      10:27 AM 2213.7 Bear RIGHT (North) onto HWY-23 [HWY-75] 0.3 mi
      10:27 AM 2214.0 Turn LEFT (West) onto HWY-23 [Boyne Ave W] 4.3 mi
      10:32 AM 2218.3 Turn RIGHT (North) onto HWY-422 7.2 mi
      10:41 AM 2225.5 Turn LEFT (West) onto HWY-205 3.8 mi
      10:46 AM 2229.3 Turn LEFT to stay on HWY-205 4.1 mi
      10:51 AM 2233.4 Turn RIGHT (North) onto HWY-332 6.4 mi
      10:59 AM 2239.7 Turn RIGHT (North-East) onto HWY-3 [HWY-332], then immediately bear LEFT (North) onto HWY-332 5.9 mi
      11:07 AM 2245.6 Turn LEFT (West) onto HWY-247 [HWY-332] 2.0 mi
      11:10 AM 2247.7 Turn RIGHT (North) onto HWY-332 10.2 mi
      11:23 AM 2257.9 Turn LEFT to stay on HWY-332 1.0 mi
      11:24 AM 2258.9 Turn RIGHT to stay on HWY-332 3.1 mi
      11:28 AM 2262.0 Keep STRAIGHT onto HWY-332 [Dakota Rd] 1.0 mi
      11:29 AM 2263.0 Turn LEFT (West) onto

    2. Re:What are google planning???! by mroell · · Score: 1

      Ok. Last time I checked, Alaska was still attached to the rest of North America and there are roads too. So it appears that Google is having an issue with use of Canadian roads or perhaps ferries. However, you don't need a ferry to get to Anchorage, unless the routing preferences are whacked. I don't think it's the Canadian roads as I can map quite easily to Prince George, BC, CA.

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  107. Think of the bandwidth cost! by Trimbo2 · · Score: 1

    Very impressive but all those XMLHTTP requests will soon add up, i'd guess 50x more costly in terms of bandwidth than a "traditional" online map.

    I wonder if they use some sort of custom HTTP server (and possibly custom TCP/IP stack) which can be tuned for the type of traffic this app will generate?

  108. Ok that's funny enough to deserve being linked up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
  109. Where are the clickable waypoints? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Maybe I'm daft, but I'm sitting here looking at the direction screen with the little drop shadowed markers, but how do I set a clickable waypoint? I must be missing something here. I can click on the endpoints for the destination, but I don't see a way to click on the map and add a waypoint to the directions.

    Maybe I misunderstood.

    1. Re:Where are the clickable waypoints? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can click on the numbers beside the directions.

    2. Re:Where are the clickable waypoints? by emurphy42 · · Score: 1

      Impressive eye candy, but it'd be more useful to see a table with all the waypoints in a column. I also agree with another poster who pointed out that the distances should be in a separate column. (Yahoo gets both these points right.)

  110. Area 51 - try it by Ummite · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Nevada test site" You actually get roads. They could have been funier by putting some UFO Photo instead of gray area!

  111. So much for stress testing... by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    Except for the rather massive restriction of having USA only (I'm European) its impressive.
    I know what you mean. I wanted to see what they thought of the Norway route...

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  112. The rest of the planet by xixax · · Score: 1

    For the most part, mapping data is collected by government agencies. The access policies vary, but from what I can tell, the USA has the biggest, most easily accessible collection of GIS data. Don't gripe to Google, look at your national mapping initiatives and such.

    Xix.

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  113. Bah US only. by baadger · · Score: 0, Redundant
    "offering an alternative to Mapquest with what some might describe as a very much improved user interface, offering a cleaner layout, drop shadows, clickable waypoints and keyboard controls"

    Great let me know when it's available to Google UK..along with a dozen other Google toys

  114. Bug by Napoleon+Blownapart · · Score: 1, Interesting
    Hmm, there seems to be a very noticable bug

    It doesnt seem to recognise 'London' as a city in Europe.

    Come to think of it, it doesnt seem to show Europe at all and scrolling down from N.America to S.America I can only assume that there has been an awful lot of flooding down there lately.

    1. Re:Bug by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it's not in Google's business plan to acquire listings from places they stand to make absolutely no money in. I mean, perhaps.

    2. Re:Bug by Napoleon+Blownapart · · Score: 0
      Hmm, well they seem to have a big office over here.

      Perhaps it's just a research centre for the next google lunar pod.

  115. Missing Features by oboylet · · Score: 1
    I, too, was impressed until I tried the driving directions.

    I do like the fact that it doesn't try to tell you were every Denny's along the way is, but if you don't put in an accurate address, it just gives up.

    Eg, I tried to get directions from my house to 1219 Kenan St. When it didn't find 1219 Kenan, it's only recommendation was that I check the address or try adding a zip code.

    This is the company that brought us "Did you mean ... ?" See, maybe something like "Did you mean 1291 Kenan St?" might have been nice. I might have mistyped. Or even if not, it doesn't matter that I want to go to 1219, 1291 is probably close enough, and I'll get directions there.

    Just a thought.

  116. drag to pan behavior is backwards by The+Pim · · Score: 1
    Does anyone else find the drag to pan (hold down the left button and move the mouse) behavior to be backwards? I far prefer that when I move the mouse down, the page scrolls down (same as hitting the down arrow). Beyond the "down means down" simplicity, this is familiar from applications that don't support panning per se (eg, word processors and browsers), but in which clicking and dragging down will extend the selection downward, thus scrolling down (I'm sure I'm not the only one who's used this method); and from the panning mode of some mouse drivers (eg, the EmulateWheel option in XFree86), in which holding down the middle button and dragging down is equivalent to scrolling down with the wheel.

    However, the UI standard (as found in google maps) seems to be the "pointer sticks to the page" metaphor, which is frankly idiotic. When I'm reading a page in reality, I do not stick my finger on it and push up in order to see a lower portion of the map. Rather, I move my gaze downward. If you want a metaphor, imagine the pointer is stuck to the viewport, not the page. Worse, the google maps method has a built-in limitation: when you reach the edge of the screen, you have to let go of the button and move to the other edge to keep scrolling. The other way, you can scroll forever, because the mouse pointer doesn't actually move.

    I always get it backwards when using the "sticks to page" metaphor--very frustrating. So is this just me? How about starting a "down means down" movement to correct this interface blunder?

    (I admit I don't know if this can be implemented in javascript for google maps. Can you get mouse movement events but prevent the pointer from moving? Can you get scroll wheel events?)

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    1. Re:drag to pan behavior is backwards by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 1

      If, in the real world, I have in front of me a very large map on a table, when I "click" on it (i.e. hold it against the table) and move down, the map moves down. I don't consider this a blunder at all: a personal preference, maybe, and one where I'm on Google's side... sorry...

    2. Re:drag to pan behavior is backwards by Quill_28 · · Score: 1

      It worked exactly the way I expected.

      So I guess I am idiotic.

  117. Try some funny searches by MoreDruid · · Score: 1

    man... try to locate "boobies" in new york and you get (among others) a Leukemia facility and a Tennis school.
    I tried Missouri and they came up with this: Missouri Democratic Party

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  118. It might be used to find a fake Louis Vuitton... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so they have to carefully vet any localized versions.

  119. No Metro stop information?! by baker_tony · · Score: 1
    Interesting, I looked up my US office address (in Springfield, VA, seeing as it doesn't map anywhere else in the world) and it showed all the shops around the area, contact details etc, but didn't show the Metro line stations!

    Yes, I know Americans don't use public transport, but it would be nice for tourists, etc.

  120. No Subway option yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    As in MapQuest, there is no option to include or show the Subway (Underground) and bus transportation.

    May be Google should buy and integrate "HopStop". HopStop is used for New York area (is now offline for some reason).

  121. Remember... by CokoBWare · · Score: 1

    Geez, for all the bellyaching I hear about this new service, have you all forgotten that it is in BETA? They're going to adjust the technology... it isn't perfect.

    Just thought I'd bring us back to reality.

  122. My experience by SeanDuggan · · Score: 1

    As usual, I tried plugging in two routes, one from my home here to my hometown, usually about a 3 hour trip due to the highways requiring 30-minute jaunt west, followed by traveling south, then taking a 30-minute drive east to get there and then my route from home to work. The first (approximated by "Newark, OH to Ashland, KY") showed me an interesting route that takes more of a straight-line approach (albeit taking me through some city streets in the middle) that shaves about 15 miles off of the trip, but the software apparently doesn't deal well with sections of highways, as I was told to turn onto or continue on US-23 S 7 times in a row. Definitely promising though, and I'll be submitting feedback for that bug. The trip from home to work seems almost kosher, only taking me a few miles out of the way to keep me on the "state route" that goes through town (Around here in Newark, state routes and highways frequently drop to 35 MPH or lower, so they're not worth going out of your way for) and taking me through one road that doesn't exist. Overall, pretty respectable. They may wish to add in some tolerance for spelling and geography errors though. Misspelling a road name by one letter meant they couldn't find it and it took me a bit of fiddling around with surrounding city names to find one street which is near the constantly shifting border.

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  123. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by DJStealth · · Score: 1

    I found some highway names were called by their official name, instead of what they're commonly called.

    For example: Toronto.

    HWY 401 is labelled as the MacDonald-Cartier Fwy (I heard that name once years ago, but nobody uses it).

    In addition, HWY 407 is not labelled at all!

    In addition, searches don't seem to work well for me in Vaughan/Thornhill.

    I assume this will all be fixed before the beta period is expired; but just wanted to point out some issues (those of you in Toronto will find it).

    BTW, where are the other continents on the world map?

  124. The difficulty in making 2D maps of a 3D world by Analogue+Kid · · Score: 3, Informative
    4. Nice choice of map - see the distortion at the top. That's one thing you should be able to avoid online.

    The thing about making a flat map of a spherical world is that there will always be distortion. Either the relative sizes of landmasses, the angles between them or BOTH will be distorted. The particular projection used to create the map will determine how much of what kind of distortion the map has. Whether if a map is "online" or not has nothing to do with it as long as it is still a two dimensional representation of a 3 dimensional object.

    The most popular projection is called the Mercator Projection. This projection will heavily distort the relative sizes of landmasses, making whatever is in the corners of the map appear to be much larger than what is in the center. For example, depending on where the map is centered, Greenland could appear to be larger than the entire South American continent. The good side of the Mercator Projection is that it preserves the relative angles of locations. In other words, if 3 places all fall on the same straight line (around the world of course), then all three will also be in a straight line on a Mercator Projection map. For this reason, the Mercator Projection is by far the most useful for sailors and Navigators.

    Other projections such as the Lambert Azimuthal Projection provide more exact relative sizes of countries and continents, while horribly distorting the shapes of places near the edge. There is also an Azimuthal Equidistant projection which neither maintains correct relative sizes, nor angles, but has the advantage that all distances measured from the center of the map will be correct.

    As you can see, mapping online or off is all about trade offs. You can have correct shapes or angles or distances, but you any map will distort at least two of the three.

    http://www.aquarius.geomar.de/omc/omc_project.html
    http://www.worldatlas.com/aatlas/worldout.htm
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    1. Re:The difficulty in making 2D maps of a 3D world by hcdejong · · Score: 1

      I know. But with an online map you can do things you can't do with paper.
      Say you pick a projection where distortion is minimized in the center of the map. With a paper map, the center is fixed. With an online map, you can define several 'centers' and switch between them. In effect you'd no longer be limited to a single 'point of view'.
      For instance, if you pan to the North on the US map, you now run into a horribly-mangled Canada. You could instead change the point of view when you pan across the border.

    2. Re:The difficulty in making 2D maps of a 3D world by 2short · · Score: 1

      "In other words, if 3 places all fall on the same straight line (around the world of course), then all three will also be in a straight line on a Mercator Projection map. For this reason, the Mercator Projection is by far the most useful for sailors and Navigators."

      Just to nit-pick, if three places fall on the same straight line on the earth, they will most likely not do so in a mercator projection. A constant compass heading is a straight line on a mecator projection, which was nice for pre-information age navigators. But constant compass headings are not straight lines on the earth. Even those old-time navigators would work out a long course as a great-circle, plot it out on their mercator map, and then break it into straightline segments.

    3. Re:The difficulty in making 2D maps of a 3D world by Analogue+Kid · · Score: 1

      I had to think about this for a minute, but now I think I've got it. In my head my example case was travelling due east or west in which case three points in a line on a path around the world would fall on a line on the map. I also thought of due north and due south, which work too as long as you don't cross a pole.

      I guess the problem is that as you move along a constant compass heading in other angles the direction of due north will change relative to your facing. ie. "constant compass headings are not straight lines on the earth." Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to keep that in mind.

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    4. Re:The difficulty in making 2D maps of a 3D world by 2short · · Score: 1

      Traveling due east or due west would not be what I'd consider a straight line on the ground (a great circle), except on the equator. If you ever look at a map of the routes flown by airplanes across the US, they will appear (on most maps) to curve northward. The planes are actually flying the shortest path.

  125. Great Tool by lobsterGun · · Score: 1

    Great tool! Now add it as a layer on top of Keyhole.

  126. Easter Egg by pdamoc · · Score: 1

    Is there no Easter Egg in this app? I was hopping to see the Google logo if I zoom enough on Mountain View, CA. Bummer.

  127. Hey everyone! by elementus · · Score: 0

    I'm googling your house right now.

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  128. wacky routing! by Eggz+Factor · · Score: 1

    It gave me a ceally crazy map to my studio in Toronto, though.
    From Markham to Lansdowne & Dundas, it had me on the 407 to 400, back across the 401 to the DVP, down Gardiner to York st. and across Dundas to Landsdowne.

    More like a ride with a drunken cab driver.

    Nice interface, but I hope the logic improves.... or do they know something I don't??

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  129. How does this signify taking on Microsoft? by jackstack · · Score: 1

    I can see how this directly impacts mapquest and how it is a nice addition to their search/ads empire, but how it signifies taking over Microsoft is not obvious.

    If anything, they appear to have their sights on Yahoo. Google dominates in search engines, but I still use yahoo for my homepage/portal for their rss feeds/mail/stocks/financial information.

    I guess the similarity with Microsoft is their show of dominance in their respective arenas, but to me those arenas are still distinctly separate.

    Personally, if anyone 'takes on' microsoft, I hope its debian.

    1. Re:How does this signify taking on Microsoft? by sp3c1alK · · Score: 1

      I think they're talking about MSN'sMapblast. MS bought them a while back and made it part of their MSN services.

  130. How long before... by Petronius · · Score: 1

    ...the map gets covered with little brand icons showing the closest PizzaHut and Starbucks when I *didn't* search for 'pizza' or 'coffee'? Not very long I'm sure.

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    1. Re:How long before... by cr0sh · · Score: 1
      That may happen - but what I think would be more likely to happen would be similar to the ad links (and considering the trademark/legal issues they are already facing, I am wondering how it would play out - especially considering the stupid arguments the "opposition" is making) - you search for coffee (or pizza), and in addition to the "boring" push pins to your local eateries, you also get paid for "branded" pins (with cute little waving flags or something), with the links at the top of the list, etc - designed to catch your attention.

      I wouldn't be surprised if this already existed, just waiting for the rollout from beta...

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  131. how will it look by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    printed out in your hands in your car?

    (like crap)

    yahoo maps and msn maps both give you paper-compatible imagery.... this is not.

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    1. Re:how will it look by DamienNightbane · · Score: 1

      What part of beta do you not seem to understand?

  132. Cool technology by bergr · · Score: 0

    The google map is nice, but I like the technology behind this map a lot better. Panning and zooming responding instantly!
    http://www.starcus.se/objectdemo/demo_v1_2.html

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  133. this needs Google Suggest by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 1

    Imagine that: you start typing "talla..." and Google Suggests "Tallahasee, FL". (For those who don't know: Google Suggest is a kind of a real-time AutoComplete for the search box.)

  134. Centre of the world by Harald74 · · Score: 1

    Finally I found out that the centre of the world is just north of the Coffeyville Country Club! :D

    (I just pushed the zoom slider all the way in)

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  135. joel spolsky by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    remember what joel said after google suggest:

    "If you have a website that shows a map, and the user clicks to zoom in, they're going to expect the map to zoom in, quickly--they will no longer tolerate the full-page-reload-and-scroll-to-the-top that Mapquest has conditioned them to accept.

    "That's what I meant by "raising the bar.""

  136. Much of Canada included too... by tatonca · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure where you are from, but saying the service is US-only is a tad untrue, though it may look like it from the opening page. Though arguably Canada might as well be a state, we aren't yet... ...and they mapped the frikin' cemetery near my house! Right down to where they put pylons to limit the traffic to one lane! Dead or alive you ain't gettin lost with this map service... ...I also found out the park by my house where I grew up actually has a name! God love the internet...

    1. Re:Much of Canada included too... by houseofmore · · Score: 1

      Though arguably Canada might as well be a state, we aren't yet

      What are you smokin.

  137. A couple of little quirks by ptomblin · · Score: 1

    - often when drawing a route, near the end the line does a slash off the map and back. Zooming in further will usually correct that.

    - If you search a route using the airport id "roc" for Greater Rochester International Airport, instead of showing you a route to the passenger terminal, it shows you how to get to my flying club! (The general aviation area is on the south side of the airport, off Scottsville Rd, the passenger terminal is on the north side off... damn, I forget the name of the road.)

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  138. more detail by rhennigan · · Score: 1

    We still need more detail in these maps... I wanna be able to get directions to my bathroom that warns me of the shoe I left in the middle of the hallway last night.

  139. bar by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    available at msn maps-- nice for cut & paster

    I wish the maps were more printer friendly.. with printable mini intersections.

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  140. Middle of Nowhere by farlcow · · Score: 1

    Its official, the "middle of nowhere" is located in Oklahoma!

  141. I expected more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Check out map24.com-- Blows google out of the water.

  142. Re:It's all coming together now. Keyhole! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think it'll be more impressive than that. If you've tried the Keyhole satellite software (parent company bought by Google), it becomes obvious that the eventual product will incorporate actual satellite imagery down to the block level.

    If you haven't tried(played)with the keyhole software, I highly recommend the free trial. Same address location, zoom in and scroll capabilities as Google maps plus angle effects, but with real satellite photos.

    http://www.keyhole.com/

  143. Some Canada info, but won't zoom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can see some detail appearing in areas like Halifax, NS and Charlottetown, PE, however you can't zoom in past half the slider.

  144. Oh, no! by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

    They forgot Poland!

  145. North and South by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

    Superb design and functionality.

    One thing I found a bit disconcerting is that the North/South directions are not indicated on the maps, especially the small bubbles that are shown at te start and endpoints when a route is displayed.

  146. Great News for Me by mqduck · · Score: 1

    This is great news for me, since I've seriously been typing in "maps.google.com" in the address bar for years.

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  147. yes it uses NAVTEQ and TeleAtlas by Gaurang · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, you are right. I just found out that they use Navteq and TeleAtlas map data, and NavTeq has info on 40 countries. So probably I would say "its just a matter of time".

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    1. Re:yes it uses NAVTEQ and TeleAtlas by iamwahoo2 · · Score: 1

      Navteq and teleAtlas use the USGS data to create there databases. So which do you think they are going to license for less? That data that they had to pay in order to assemble databases (every other country) or the data that is given to them for free (US data).

  148. dragons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    While it's still in beta, the areas for which they don't have information online yet should have the text "Here be dragons."

  149. Re: Map24 is great! by LittleKing · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Wow, Map24 is great, it didn't even find my parent's address correctly. It labeled their street wrong and gave their actual name to another street. Their road name is Woodland Drive. Map24 labled it Woodland Road. It then labeled a street fairly close by called Windwood as Woodland Dr.

    Man I should use map24 for all my needs as I probably wouldn't find a thing correctly.

    Just to try to ward of some of the -mod points, I'm sure it does get most thing right.

    LK

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  150. Why don't you tell Google that by jaaron · · Score: 1

    They have a feedback form. :)

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  151. changing units of measurement by drunken+dash · · Score: 1

    is there any way to change the units of measurement from mi to km?

    toronto and some other major canadian cities are mapped pretty well on this thing, i am *extremely* impressed!

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  152. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The beta period probably won't expire. Google News is still in "beta".

  153. Just wait for version 2.0 by jalefkowit · · Score: 2, Funny

    Two words:

    lens flares!

  154. Windows Firefox support is broken by pavkb · · Score: 1

    The maps doesn't show all the different areas. Lots of blank spaces on the map.

    1. Re:Windows Firefox support is broken by markdowling · · Score: 1

      What are you looking at? Toronto looks fine to me on FF1.0, right down to max zoom.

    2. Re:Windows Firefox support is broken by jridley · · Score: 1

      Looks totally perfect here.

    3. Re:Windows Firefox support is broken by fleener · · Score: 1

      I concur. I'm using Windows Firefox 1.0 and all I see is a tan box. Works fine in Internet Explorer though, except I get an ActiveX control propmt. If I refuse Active X, I see the same tan box.

  155. Geolocation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pretty cool. One odd thing though. I double-clicked near Cleveland from a pretty wide view. It centered and I zoomed in very close and found I had centered within half a mile of where I work (in the suburbs). Does Google maps use geolocation or was it just an odd coincidence? I didn't see any mention of it in the FAQ.

  156. WOW by ScurvyDawg · · Score: 1

    It isd amazing by looking at this map the world has only one continent and it for some odd reason is only populated in its center and nowhere else.

    How shortsighted.

  157. Bad beta? by SolitaryMan · · Score: 1

    If you think this is bad beta, look at God's release!

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  158. Center of the world by joshuao3 · · Score: 1

    According to Google, it looks like Coffeeville Country Club is the closest thing to the center of the world. Looks like my old boss who played golf 4 days a week was right after all! Looks like my bowling days are over...

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  159. Nice, but where's the rest of the world gone ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well if I want to buy a pizza in Kansas it is all very well....but hello Google there is a world outside the US. Sort of

  160. Looks great! by No.+24601 · · Score: 1

    Except for the fact that it appears to give me directions going the opposite way on a one-way street near my house (is this part of their plan!?!?). Man I should never have used MSN Search last week.. i knew Google wouldn't approve.

  161. Likes ... dislikes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Likes:
    The maps are pretty, and though U.S. and the more populated parts of Canada only, I presume more will be included eventually.
    The interactivity of the maps is great -- nice performance, and dragging the map is intuitive.

    Dislikes:
    It took me 5 more seconds than it should have to figure out that clicking on a location of interest does nothing at all -- no zoom-in, no center, etc. I had to read the small comment on the right side about double-clicking to center, and then fiddle with the zoom gadget. Am I stupid, or is this poor interface design? From my perspective, if I see the spot that is of interest to me and I click on it, zooming in on it would be the most logical default behaviour. This is what mapquest does. I was using Mozilla 1.7, so maybe this is a browser-specific issue.

    Yes, it is beta.

  162. All we need now is.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Integration with google text messages.

    Imagine getting the directions txt'ed to your phone!

  163. It kicks major a$$ in all respects by McNihil · · Score: 0

    OK there is no Europe yet but thats why its beta... draging the map... sweet sweet sweet. So the graphic tiles and their URL's have better than Base-30 compression (haven't checked with tcpdump but it seems obvious) interesting that all of them are called mt.gif in the browser :-D So the MS patent is completely moot... they can have it BWAHAHAHAHA

  164. Holy misdirection, Batman! by saforrest · · Score: 1

    I just experimented with the Driving Direction feature. I fed in my work address in Waterloo, Ontario and my father's home address in Dundas, Ontario (a small town not too far away).

    For reference Mapquest gives a reasonable route (in fact, exactly the one I take) and reports the expected time as 63 min. and estimated distance as 38.35 miles.

    Holy crap is Google Maps on crack. (I know, it's beta, but it's funny still.) Its expected driving time of 5 hrs. 42 min. with estimated distance of 394 miles.

    For those familiar with Ontario geography, its planned route takes me from Dundas (near Hamilton) up the 403 to Toronto, up the 400 North through Barrie all the way to Bracebridge.

    Then, somehow, it tells you to take the exit to the 401, as though you were still in Toronto. This confuses me, as it never told me to go back south along the 400 or take any turns. From this point the directions are reasonable, if you had wanted to go to Waterloo from Toronto.

    I'm perplexed at how the software could lose track of location like that. Others have reported reasonable driving information for the States, so it's likely that their Canadian driving information is just spotty.

  165. Map24 and Google are working together by Seoulstriker · · Score: 1

    * Yawn *

    Due to the new cooperation between Google, Inc, and Mapsolute GmbH, maker of the unique mapping portal Map24.com, it is now possible to search for city maps in all European Google search engines. If you enter a city name into Google.co.uk, the first result list entry is a special link to Map24.com that brings up the corresponding city map. On the result page, for sure, the full set of the rich Map24 options is available to the users.

    I'd wait until they're bought out, just like Picasa and Blogger.

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  166. Plotting Canadian Directions by 32bitwonder · · Score: 1

    First maps.google.com is amazing, it found my address immediately and I can search for local businesses in my area (Canada). The interface too is fantastic!

    One thing I notice right away when plotting directions is that it's all designated in miles. This is logical as it's an American service, but if plotting directions from say a Canadian to an American destination, it'd be extremely easy for them to convert the mileage to kms north of the border, and miles to the south of it.

    Perhaps this'll change once it goes to final release or when they release a .ca version.

  167. Yes, but... by Agent_9191 · · Score: 1

    you actually have to do a search for a specific location (or some such thing) to be able to link to it. At least with Mapquest if you just randomly zoomed in and panned around, you'd be able to link to whatever location you want.

    1. Re:Yes, but... by Doppleganger · · Score: 1

      You can, however, pan around to an area and then get directions to or from the center of the section that is on-screen. Or even get an area on-screen and search for businesses near that area.

      It would be nice to specify a spot for the directions, but once you know about this bit it's not so bad. I'm more concerned about the pizza places that were put in the wrong locations when I searched for them in my area, but then moved to the right places when I got directions..

    2. Re:Yes, but... by OdieWan · · Score: 1

      Actually, there's a "link to this page" link in the top-right that does what you want (try clicking on it)

    3. Re:Yes, but... by Agent_9191 · · Score: 1

      yeah, look at where it links to...if you're just panning, it's the default page and zoom...

    4. Re:Yes, but... by OdieWan · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you're having a browser compatability problem. I panned and zoomed over to SF from the initial page, and copied the generated link: Panning and Zooming to SF

    5. Re:Yes, but... by Agent_9191 · · Score: 1

      Nope, you have to double click to recenter the map, that changes the link.

    6. Re:Yes, but... by OdieWan · · Score: 1

      I think I'm not understanding what you don't like about it. Probably not the right forum for discussing it, regardless. Cheers!

  168. One-way streets by sklib · · Score: 1

    Where are the little arrows that point which way one-way streets go? That's sort of an important piece of information to leave off...

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  169. Find buisinesses cool but confused by milgr · · Score: 1

    I searched for bookstores near where I work using something like the following querry:
    books near 123 main street, 01752

    I got a list of book stores with the correct addresses, but some of them were placed at the wrong locations on the map.

    Google maps indicates the source of their information.

    Overall this is a cool feature. Hopefully they can do a better job pointing to locations on the map.

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  170. Not as nice as what we have for Switzerland by ivec · · Score: 1

    For a nice interface, you really should try:
    http://map.search.ch/

    Hey, I can even put the address of my current location in the url, and maybe you'll see me:
    http://map.search.ch/morges/lausanne-45/
    Sorry guys, this is a Swiss-only feature :)

    In case it dies under slashdotting, the site offers a choice between satellite photos and street plans, interactive zooming, etc.

    (NB: if you know any equivalent for other regions of the world, I'm interested!)

  171. longitude and lattitude by e**(i+pi)-1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I like that
    unlike mapquest (which encodes location in a cryptic
    way) you can link in google maps, directly to
    longitude and lattitude: example
    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=42.376373% 2C-71.116 184

    1. Re:longitude and lattitude by reverse+flow+reactor · · Score: 1

      Try multimap:
      http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?lat=42.3763 &lon=-71.1161&scale=50000&icon=x
      This should be what you are looking for.

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  172. Google-Linux cant be far behind by KingBahamut · · Score: 1

    Gbrowser, Google Maps, Google Mail, Google Images, Google Local....... Come on Google, gimmie an ISO. =) Google Office.......=)

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    1. Re:Google-Linux cant be far behind by bouldin · · Score: 1

      Google should build into Linux the same features that Bill wanted in winfs. That would really piss him off!

    2. Re:Google-Linux cant be far behind by KingBahamut · · Score: 1

      Down with the Winblows WerMachten!!!!!!!!!

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  173. I have one word by billyradcliffe · · Score: 1

    Wow. Google is run by like, the smartest people in modern times. Every new technology they release always seems "too good to be true." The map looks beautiful and is amazingly easy to use. Google, will you be my Valentine?

  174. Yep, through the magic of javascript and DOM by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The image is made out of an array of tiles, each a GIF about 3.6K in size. They have URLs like this: http://mt.google.com/mt?v=.3&x=5&y=-4&zoom=8 As you pan to the right, each tile's src attribute gets the url of the tile to its right, which is of course already in browser cache. The rightmost column of five tiles is then fetched from the server. The very clever thing is how they make panning continuous. I have to look at their javascript to see how they accomplish it, it's quite an illusion. In any case, the efficiency of this approach accounts for the generous size of the map. and its responsiveness, which would be hard to achieve using conventional mapserver techniques.

    I've worked with developing web map services before. This approach complicates some things you might want to do, but is probably how you'd do it if you wanted a very fast, ultra-scalable service I wouldn't be surprised if Google, which in many ways is in the information storage business, has got all these tiles pre-rendered somewhere. Normally, you'd render the gif for the entire map in a temporary directory somewhere. Natrually this approach is more processor and bandwidth sensitive, but saves on storage. Of course, it allows you to do other kinds of GISy things that probably would be hard to do with Google's approach, but those kinds of things are relatively rare in this kind of application.

    I'd like to figure out how to map from geographic coordinate systems to the bizarre system they're using. Then I could use the mapping service for my own uses.

    Altogether, it's an interesting first effort. A rectangle drag zoom function would be welcome.

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    1. Re:Yep, through the magic of javascript and DOM by Tarqwak · · Score: 1

      > The image is made out of an array of tiles, each a GIF about 3.6K in size.
      > They have URLs like this: http://mt.google.com/mt?v=.3&x=5&y=-4&zoom=8


      And they've gone the extra effort and added HTTP return header of:
      Expires: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:06:31 GMT
      Last-Modified: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 04:58:08 GMT

      Which means that these tiles should stick to your (ISP's) proxy/cache server and load faster the next time around.

  175. Fn-arrow on FireFox Mac fast scrolls... by patniemeyer · · Score: 1

    Neat.

    Pat Niemeyer

  176. PNGs, NOT SVG. Image tiles not vectors. by kindofblue · · Score: 1
    The map tiles are all PNG images. Check out the page info in Firefox, and look up the Media tab. Like "Google Suggest", this is making a bunch of requests for fragments of information on the backend. It looks real nice, but the programming is fairly straight-forward.

    I was hoping that it was using SVG maybe, even though it's not standard yet. If a portal used SVG for something widespread like a mapping service, then all the browsers would be forced to make it standard, hopefully.

  177. Kansas is the center of the world by renata.org · · Score: 1

    Wow. Now Dorothy will certainly find her way back home.

  178. Finally a way to find bicycle routes by cabazorro · · Score: 1

    For years I griped at the ever-so-ugly web mapping services navigational tools. Google nail it right on the head! The grid refreshes and the edges instead of the nasty blank-hiccup of all the other mapping services.
    Clearly all the other mapping services have been doing their stuff for years..then comes Google with a beta and whammy! The old services get caught with their pants down.
    I well deserved tip of the hat for Google.

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  179. They forgot the scale. by Peldor · · Score: 3, Informative

    None of these maps have a scale on them. It seems like a poor choice to omit that.

  180. My way or the highway. by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2, Interesting

    MapQuest's raw data has the direction of one-way streets marked. Google's presentation layer is much better, but MapQuest's data is therefore much more useful in navigating. If it's going only in the direction against you, it's not a street - it's a very dangerous wall. Maybe when it's out of beta. But I haven't seen Google make that big a change; their betas are nearly done.

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    1. Re:My way or the highway. by rlds · · Score: 1

      I was using another application and found that it also lacked the indicators for one way streets. However, it can easily overlay aerial photographs. So as I was checking a parallel access road to a highway, I needed to know if it was one way or not. I added the aerial layer and there it was, cars were visibly moving in one direction, and there were no lane marks on the access road. I'm sure Google will come up with the aerial overlays and also possibly add the one way flags to the street maps. Makes you wonder whether the directions are using those flags internally.

    2. Re:My way or the highway. by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      I really want to see Google blow away all other mapping sites by offering recent pix of the streetlevel views. Their map presentation is already vastly superior, just by making it 10x larger! The progressive chunk rendering outward from the center shows they're smart as ever over there. Now, if they can do interactive zooming (without waiting for page refresh), they're untouchable.

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  181. Transit maping by SuperQ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What I would like is a better transit map searching system.. I'm planing a trip to SFO, and having a nice on-the-fly map drawn of different bus/train routes would be handy.

    1. Re:Transit maping by Politburo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Would be nice to hit in two addresses in a transit laden area and get the best train/bus/other to take. NJ Transit actually does this.. you can go on their site and punch in addresses and get the nearest train/bus stops and the itinerary. However, it uses a drop box to select City,State. If yours isn't listed, you have to do a bit of research on your own. Also, you need a street address.. you can't just say "Take me from New Brunswick to Parsippany". The NJ Transit site also includes NYC Subways and PATH in planning trips. I couldn't get it to use NYC Buses.

      Doesn't really help you for your SF trip, though.

    2. Re:Transit maping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.511.org/ covers the San Francisco Bay Area

  182. Bike Routes by DoorFrame · · Score: 1

    I'd like a bike route feature, which avoids highways and other major streets.

    1. Re:Bike Routes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to add to this, the ability to avoid toll roads and toll bridges.

  183. Some Parts of Canada Included by white+meat · · Score: 1

    Just did a search for Detroit and scrolled South (because Canada is South of D-town) and whaddya know - I get a turn by turn to my favorite rendition of the Windsor Ballet!

  184. Not trolling here, just a curious newbie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Not trolling here, just a curious newbie: What makes DHTML + Javascript better than Flash?

    1. Re:Not trolling here, just a curious newbie... by Wilk4 · · Score: 1

      DHTML doesn't require a plug-in for one thing...

    2. Re:Not trolling here, just a curious newbie... by hairyfarter · · Score: 0

      A lot of IT departments restrict installation of plugins such as Flash.

  185. Zooming by Sajma · · Score: 1

    Frankly, it's a waste of my time to animate the zoom from continental view to street -- just show me what I want to see. I tried using map24, and it (1) takes forever to load, (2) is less readable and much smaller than Google Maps, and (3) spammed by browser with Java errors when I killed it's tab. Google's interface seems much more lightweight, robust, and readable.

  186. What's wrong... by zoney_ie · · Score: 1

    ...is that the slashdot story doesn't mention that it is US-only. Clicking the link and discovering that it's US only is inclined to p*ss off any non-US readers.

    I mean it IS a more important point than saying IE/Firefox only. Talk about US-centricism at Slashdot.

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    1. Re:What's wrong... by HeghmoH · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm a non-US reader, and as you can see, I don't care. For me it's a cool technology showcase, not something I'm going to start using tomorrow. I believe that was the point of the story.

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    2. Re:What's wrong... by Andrewkov · · Score: 1

      Since when did Canada become part of the US? :-)

    3. Re:What's wrong... by syrinx · · Score: 1

      that it is US-only.

      I'll let Canada know they've been annexed. Maybe we in the US will get some good beer now. Thanks for the heads-up.

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  187. The maps are really old. by Demodian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The map information that Google is using is at least 6 to 8 years old in some areas. They could have at least launched a service that had fresh data.

    1. Re:The maps are really old. by sacherjj · · Score: 1

      It has streets created during the last year in others. It is more dependent on accurate surveys in your area, than Google.

    2. Re:The maps are really old. by luserSPAZ · · Score: 1

      Complain to Navteq, since that's where Google (and half of everyone else providing maps) gets their data from. There are only about two different map data providers that anyone uses. It's expensive to drive around with GPS all the time and keep maps current.

  188. One problem by TwistedAnimator · · Score: 1

    Does anyone else think the drop shadows are fundamentally wrong? I mean we all know that we are staring straight down upon the earth. So why are there shadows that display as if we're at some angle towards the map? Cool for the sake of cool is not cool.

  189. nope by mapmaker · · Score: 1
    I guess it wouldn't be a big surprise if they're using Map24's data

    Look at the bottom right corner of Google's map: "Map data ©2005 NAVTEC TeleAtlas"

  190. You know the web has ruined user interfaces by hikerhat · · Score: 1

    When people are thrilled that they can click and drag something, and the app is slightly more responsive than a pot head at 6 in the morning. I remember way back in the old days before the web was big everything utilized the full power of my processor. Things were clickable, dragable, etc. Hell, we even had text boxes bigger than 400x300. You could resize them, and they would even check your spelling for you. You could save them and work on them later. I think they were called "word processors". Ah, those were the days.

  191. Hmm Finland=Linus ... by Teun · · Score: 1

    This is obviously another nasty M$ ploy de get at Linux, next time Linus travels home to Finland they hope he gets lost.

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  192. No Trip Planner... :( by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 1

    The best thing about MapQuest was it's excellent trip planner, which they took offline about a year ago for no apparent reason.

    Specify starting point, specify end point, and then choose all the places you want to go in between. Incredibly useful... There are a couple others available, but they are all pretty clunky and slow, hopefully Google will add this feature soon...

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  193. Don't get over Googlefied by supermanksu · · Score: 1

    The map is awesome but the interface isn't that great. Everyone shouldn't just start saying that Google is the best, just because they are good at something else doesn't make them great at everything!

  194. Here are some reasons why Google's fails: by hacker · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Here are a few brief reasons why Google's mapping service fails, and will not ever be as good as much of the competition (MapBlast, MapQuest, etc.)

    1. Requires javascript , so I can't use it from my PDA, cellphone, or automated with Perl to fetch and print maps for me.
    2. No turn-by-turn maps for driving directions
    3. No markers for one-way streets and directions
    4. Their "Print" view is exactly the same as their non-print view.
    5. No PDA version at all (ala MapBlast)

    For people who want to go "Ooo... pretty map", it will be fine, but for people who actually use mapping services to navigate, or use them from non-full-blown-desktop browsers (cell, WAP, PDA), this service is useless.

    Why Google insists on building everything they do upon reams of Javascript, is beyond me.

    Move along, nothing to see here.

    1. Re:Here are some reasons why Google's fails: by Nevenmrgan · · Score: 1

      Those are all true... and meaningless. I use map websites about once a day, and I have never needed any of those features. PDA display would be kinda neat - I assume, I've never used it myself - but it'd be foolish to think G won't implement it. People who TRULY, REALLY, need directions for business purposes use GPS anyway. This ain't targetting them.

    2. Re:Here are some reasons why Google's fails: by hacker · · Score: 1
      "People who TRULY, REALLY, need directions for business purposes use GPS anyway. This ain't targetting them."

      That's exactly my point. This is targeted towards people who want to print a map for their wall to say "See? I live here!" or "This is a map of my state.". This is further reinforced by all of the unnecessary eye-candy and the Print output being exactly the same as the non-Print output.

      You're right though, this is just for "pictures", not for "using".

  195. Great, needs a few minor improvements. by reed · · Score: 1

    When will I be able to download a .gpx (common GPS interchange format) file with my route on it? :)

    Nicely implemented interface, too bad it doesn't do smooth zooming, and it needs a miniature overview map in the corner zoomed out a few levels from the main map, first time I zoomed in I ended up lost in the middle of the ocean.

  196. Mapquest gets images from aol by bwhalen · · Score: 1

    Mapquest gets their images from aol, usually this site comes up as the source, http://mq-mapgend.websys.aol.com/, therefore biasing me against them. Doesn't anyone else use maps.yahoo.com?

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  197. err.overload! by mreed911 · · Score: 1
    Crap! Is the correct "funny" post here "all your map are belong to us" or "all your location are belong to us"?

    In Google's sense, I'd suspect the second... :)

  198. depends on your os by emseabrown · · Score: 1

    if you happen to be running xp

    CTRL+ALT+arrow keys

    will change the orientation of your screen.
    its an accessability option for those of you not able to carry your monitor ^_^~

    1. Re:depends on your os by jesser · · Score: 1

      For me, Ctrl+Alt+[left|right] cause Winamp to rewind or jump forward five seconds.

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  199. AddressRank? by quokkapox · · Score: 1
    1600 pennsylvania ave - doesn't work
    1600 pennsylvania ave, washington - doesn't work
    1600 pennsylvania ave, washington, d.c. - bingo

    you woulda thought...

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  200. Were's my neighborhood? by Jaime2 · · Score: 1

    I live in a four year old subdivision and only one out of three streets show up in the map. MapuQest has all three, they actually had them before they were built.

    -1 for old data, but overall a good experience.

    I'll still use others for driving directions because Google doesn't seem to have opions like shortest/fastest yet.

  201. Google Local + maps + 'near' = gold by ThatGuyGreg · · Score: 1

    After I loaded a map, I figured I'd try something, even though there was no way they'd implemented it... um, nevermind. Try: whatever near whereever Works like a champ. I tried searching for bars, but I'm sure anything that works on Google Local would work here.

  202. When is someone going to integrate mass transit? by Kevin+Stevens · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The biggest missing feature of all the mapping services I have seen is the lack of integrating mass transit.

    I live in NYC, and whenever I am going somewhere, I usually pull out mapquest to find the address (cross streets) and then sit there with a subway/bus map to try and figure out how to get there. Aside from the time problem (the time intervals that flights trains and busses leave is not as flexible as a car), this should be relatively easy to implement as the search space is so much smaller, and should be easy to acquire information about (as opposed to every backroad across the US). Just overlaying subway and bus stops onto the street maps would be a huge improvement.

    There are many profitable ways to utilize this:
    I type in to WA. I get all the options- from trains, busses, airplanes. This is targeted marketing nirvana, as unlike people who are searching for TV's just to see the latest stuff, very few people ask for driving directions "just to see how they would get there."
    Just targetting airlines and railroads, etc. might be too small of a market... So how about showing ads from places along the route? Driving from NY to DC? See the diners along the way. Taking the train? Stop at the pizza hut in Penn. There is alot of revenue to be made there.

    It could be argued that this is a small market. However, considering that there are 10M people in NYC alone, most of which whom rely on mass transit, I would have to disagree.

  203. What am I doing wrong? (Firefox) by Red+Rocket · · Score: 1

    Everybody keeps saying this works with Firefox but all I get is a blank rectangle. Checking the JavaScript console I see:

    Error: concat is not defined
    Source File: http://www.google.com/mapfiles/maps.1.js
    Line: 211

    Error: this.map has no properties
    Source File: http://www.google.com/mapfiles/maps.1.js
    Line: 306

    Those two lines read:

    ;function Na(C,K,top,P){this.src=C;this.container=P;this.ond ragstart=null;this.ondrag=null;this.ondragend=null ;this.onmove=null;this.onclick=null;this.disabled= false;this.dragPoint=new n(0,0);this.clickStartPos=new n(0,0);this.src.style.position="absolute";concat(K ,top);this.mouseDownHandler=this.eventHandler("onM ouseDown");this.mouseMoveHandler=this.eventHandler ("onMouseMove");this.mouseUpHandler=this.eventHand ler("onMouseUp");if(m.type==2){window.addEventList ener("mouseout",this.eventHandler("onWindowMouseOu t"),false)}this.eventSrc=this.src.setCapture?this. src:window;if(this.src.addEventListener){this.src. addEventListener("mousedown",this.mouseDownHandler ,false)}else{this.src.onmousedown=this.mouseDownHa ndler}}

    and

    ;R.prototype.clearSearchState=function(){this.map. clearOverlays();this.metaPanel.innerHTML="";this.m etaPanel.style.display="none";this.panel.innerHTML ="";this.vpage=null;this.vpageDoc=null}
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  204. At least they let you try... by ghutchis · · Score: 1


    I wouldn't say it works "fine" with Safari -- there are definitely problems compared with trying it in Firefox on my Mac right now. I can see why they put up that notice.

    For example, I tried finding my hometown by double-clicking to center and then zooming in. In Firefox, this worked without noticeable problems. In Safari, I'd keep ending up in the Atlantic Ocean because the double click wouldn't really recenter -- it'd move about halfway.

    Another case: I tried to get directions for someplace I'm going this weekend. In Safari, the map didn't actually show up -- I saw a computed path and a blue background, but no roads or text where the map should be, just blue color. Zooming in and out didn't reload the map either. Again, in Firefox, there was no problem.

    So yes, it works (somewhat) in Safari, and I'm glad you can click through the warning and try it. But it's definitely not the same experience in other browsers yet.

  205. Dude......it's a beta..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .....SHADDUP.

  206. Printing by Micah · · Score: 1

    > However, overall, the system doesn't seem like it would transfer to print well. I suppose the only way to find out is to try it.

    Great Scott, another reason to be amazed at this. I didn't think it would print well either.

    Just tried the print preview in Mozilla. Not only did the map show up well, but the navigation controls and most of the rest of the cruft on the page were GONE!!!

    They must have used the CSS media type to hide some elements when printing. Which is what everyone should do instead of having stupid "click here for a printer friendly version" links.

    Now, it looks like the main weakness of the thing is that you apparently can't email links to map directions or locations. Can't copy URLs. Also, you apparently can't save PNG images, but you could get around that with a screen capture program.

  207. Smooth by BlizzyMadden · · Score: 1

    I love how smooth it is to scroll around. Much nicer than having to load a new map like mapquest does. Google is right on par with Apple with creating user interfaces.

  208. Google gets is VERY right!!! by mreed911 · · Score: 1
    Searching for "prostitutes near las vegas, nv" returns:

    United States Government-Attorney Office

    (702) 388-6336 - 0.6 mi S

    United States Government: Fbi-Federal Bureau of Investigations

    (702) 385-1281 - 1.2 mi S

    Sheri's Ranch

    (775) 751-5111 - 45 mi W

    Las Vegas Freebies

    (702) 368-1779 - 4.1 mi SW

    Way to go Google!!!

  209. traveling salesman routes by supernova87a · · Score: 1

    How come none of the mapping services let you input anything more than a single origin/destination route? For example, suppose I want to drive across the country, and would like to specify going the northern route through Chicago and then Denver on the way to SF. Wouldn't it be easy to offer multiple lines of intermediate destinations?

  210. map.search.ch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have a quick look at http://map.search.ch/ , precedes Google, seems nicer to use and works in Safari and Opera. Also, since Google bought Keyhole lately this might be a preview on what you might see on Google in the future...

  211. I live in Australia, you insens-- by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    Oh, um, wait a minute... Wow, Maporama rocks -- thanks for the link!

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  212. so it's ok by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    to produce something with less than
    20% functionality,
    so long as it's labeled "beta"?

    from your link
    "but satisfies a majority of the requirements"
    the main requirement (imho) of online mapping with point-point directions happens to be being able to use them away from online.

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  213. Drop Shadows by chelecossais · · Score: 0

    Drop Shadows ? fer crying out loud... Just how does that "enhance my user experience" ?!

  214. Try maporama.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I quit using mapquest and yahoo maps a long time ago -- they just got too fugly. I stumbled upon a nice alternative, however, in maporama. Big clean maps you can customize and save. I believe thay use the navtek data as google does, but the maps are global, not just the US. Still, I'm glad google is in the game.

    http://www.maporama.com/

  215. Map24 and google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    From map24

    Due to the new cooperation between Google, Inc, and Mapsolute GmbH, maker of the unique mapping portal Map24.com, it is now possible to search for city maps in all European Google search engines. If you enter a city name into Google.co.uk, the first result list entry is a special link to Map24.com that brings up the corresponding city map. On the result page, for sure, the full set of the rich Map24 options is available to the users.

    so I guess no real competition for map24
    probably they will be partners or something

  216. Omg! by dr_d_19 · · Score: 1

    ...g a cleaner layout, drop shadows, clickable...

    Well, there's the feature, right there! Imagine what we could do now that we have drop shadows...

  217. Beta Indeed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't even do latitude and longitude lookup, much less reverse lookup, or aerial overlay.

  218. It covers Canada too by temojen · · Score: 1

    At least my city, and it does seem to do a decent job except that every road on the island my sister lives on is listed as "Indian Reserve of Lyacksun 3" and there is actually no reserve on that island. The main map just doesn't show provincial boundaries or many cities.

  219. That's hilarious! by AnonymousJackass · · Score: 1

    They should've taken the SECOND exit onto Coble Dene, not the first! That's going to take them right out of their way!

  220. Re:PNGs, NOT SVG. Image tiles not vectors. by deesine · · Score: 0

    Actually, the map pieces themselves are GIFs. The PNGs are for the UI.

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  221. Airport codes yay! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Not sure if its been mentioned, but it supports airport codes too. X to BOS for example.

    1. Re:Airport codes yay! by rlds · · Score: 1

      Three letter codes work, at least in the USA. You can also request directions from one airport to another (e. g., SAT to HOU) and it's amazingly fast! So far, it looks superior to whatever else is out there from the usability, response time, and quality of street maps I've seen.

    2. Re:Airport codes yay! by Teddy+Beartuzzi · · Score: 1

      Seems they forgot the Canadian codes. No YVR or YYZ.

    3. Re:Airport codes yay! by rlds · · Score: 1

      And some airports (e.g. PQL) don't show, even though it takes you to the right coordinates. Probably an issue witht he data source and layering.

  222. Google maps directions from Kapaa, HI to San Diego by friendofafriend · · Score: 1
    ...We could not calculate driving directions between kapaa HI and san diego, CA. We currently only support road-based driving directions.

    Damnit, they thought of that too!

  223. Does it lie like Yahoo and Mapquest do? by penginkun · · Score: 1

    I can't tell you how many times I've been handed a map printed from Yahoo or Mpaquest only to find out the directions are an outright lie.

    Just yesterday I got a map from MQ and it told me to drive down Wilshire to La Brea and turn right, then go a mile or two. Wrong! I quickly realised I'd been decieved and got turned around, but I'd been lied to!

    Another thing I'd like to see from Google is the ability to tell it to leave freeways and highways out of its driving directions. This is LA, and the freeways are worthless and certain times of the day. I'd like to avoid them if I can most of the time...

    Hope they're listening...

  224. Multiple location searches would be neat by EvilStein · · Score: 1

    ie, "laundromat close by a coffee shop in Sunnyvale, CA" or something like that. The ability to put multiple locations together like that would be great to have.

    if there's a way to do this, I am unaware of it..

  225. Map Data Problems by BenFranske · · Score: 1

    First let me say I love the interface and the "look" of the maps. The searching ability is quite good as well. That said, after pulling up maps around my home I was distressed to see several major highways "missing chunks" which made the directions to get places pretty strange. I pulled up maps of some relatives living in other cities and found phantom roads, missing roads and incorrect railroad crossings. This would be a great serivice if they could get some better mapping data or do a better job converting that data to visual maps. Incidentally, the "most correct" maps I have found come from mapsonus.com. Before you start jumping down my throat about this still being a beta and all, I know it is but with Google that makes little difference in the public's mind. After all a lot of people are using gmail daily, not just testing it.

  226. Not that good by Barromind · · Score: 1

    I've tried "Arkham to Innsmouth" and it can't found the route.

  227. Google doesn't totally mach up with this yet by ivec · · Score: 1

    Check this service:
    http://map.search.ch/

    It has all the click to zoom & drag features, but shows you real aerial/satellite images as you go. Also Javascript+DHTML.

    The same site also has business search and reverse phone lookup, with links to the map system. Route planning is missing though at this point.

    It has separate boxes to enter an address, but typing its components on the URL works well (it has some flexibility) - it's great for inclusion in my Firefox shorcuts.

    By the way, here's my work's address:
    http://map.search.ch/morges/lausanne-45/
    Watch, maybe you'll see me drive out of the building ;)

    I'd say its a draw between google and search.ch - go Switzerland ;)

    1. Re:Google doesn't totally mach up with this yet by Robmonster · · Score: 1

      That is an impressive service. Now I can visit Switzerland without ever leaving my desk!

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    2. Re:Google doesn't totally mach up with this yet by Spoing · · Score: 1

      Very sweet. Thanks for the link...they've out done Google.

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  228. Very Impressive by $nyper · · Score: 1

    Okay just took a look at this for the first time and I am very impressed. It found my house with no problems. I am especially impressed with the lack of clutter. The mapping system just looks crisp and clean. This may be beta but I would say look out Mapquest who has grown too complacient for too long.

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  229. No Scale ? by steve6534 · · Score: 0

    It seems that there is no scale on the map. This is pretty important so you can tell how much area you're actually looking at.

  230. Mass world flood by llebegue · · Score: 1

    Arghh a big tsunami covered the oceans of this world. Everything but the united states of america has been flooded.

  231. Needs work by thelizman · · Score: 1

    I like the navigation, and of course the always clean look of google. Unfortunately their information is out of date. They have my road listed as NC-1109 when in fact it was renamed Holly Shelter Rd nearly a decade ago. They also list Sky Manor airport, whose hanger fell down 10 years ago, and whose runway now covered in corn. Of course, this is google, so I expect big things.

    1. Re:Needs work by stevel · · Score: 1

      I note with interest that Google's map source is NavTeq/TeleAtlas, which also supplies the mapping data for my TomTom Go GPS unit. I have read many complaints about the Go's maps being years out of date (more so in the UK than US), but in general it has worked for me.

      I looked at several places where I knew the Go had incorrect mapping (nothing serious), and Google's version had them correct every time. So I guess that some chunks of the data are more up to date than others, which should be a surprise to no one.

      The business lookup definitely needs work. I asked for a particular pet store in my city. It listed the address right, but the map pointer had it in the middle of a residential neighborhood several miles to the north. Strange.

  232. Where's my street? by jasonw754 · · Score: 1

    Fantastic web app, but my whole neighborhood isn't on the map and it's been here for 4 years. I wonder where they get their street database from?

    It's actually faster than running MS Streets & Trips locally installed!

  233. Google Maps Press Roundup by Sundroid · · Score: 1

    I have some links to media reports about Google Maps on my blog: http://sundroid.blogspot.com/, and I will update it throughout the day.

  234. More updated than Yahoo Maps by klui · · Score: 1

    I had to use Yahoo maps to go some place that was new and Yahoo gave incorrect directions--and still does. Google Maps gives the correct directions. Guess I'll be using Google maps more often from now on. I never really liked all those text boxes used by Yahoo anyway.

    Strange, Google's applications give a sense of "nostalgia" like Microsoft's way back when MS had to really compete by being better (when Excel 1.0 and PowerPoint 1.0 was first shown on Macintosh). Or maybe I'm imagining things... that has been so long ago.

  235. Where's my house?! by ThePyro · · Score: 1
    Alas, not even Google can find my parents' house. Every map of their neighborhood I've ever seen is incorrect, and puts their street in the wrong place. It took years before the pizza delivery guy learned how to find it.

    All these map programs must be pulling their incorrect data from the same place...

  236. Great interface but lacking for parts of Canada by Agent000 · · Score: 1

    As one can expect from Google, the interface is great, but in my parts (Edmonton, Canada), the map detail is lacking beyond highway level.

    Strangely, though, it does provide street-level directions, however, in one case (going across the city to a friend's house), it gives directions that are horribly and humourously out of the way and would take about 50% more time.

  237. 180 degree? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Holly Cow! He has got facts on his side! What do I do? Lets talk about Economy now that the WWII and Internet shit has not worked...

    It (that shit you were talking about) has not worked, and also, it has hit the fan now. Shut up you stupid lovechild. There is more than USA in the world.

    1. Re:180 degree? by ScentCone · · Score: 1

      It (that shit you were talking about) has not worked, and also, it has hit the fan now. Shut up you stupid lovechild. There is more than USA in the world.

      Yes, there is a lot more than the USA in the world. But why does that make it OK for the rest of the world to be angry when a US company doesn't give them something for free? Google is a US company. They may want to do more business elsewhere in the world, and they probably will... but does it make sense for someone in Europe to actually be angry when a (free! no cost!) service hasn't yet been built exactly the way they want it by an American company? To many Americans, that's what we seem to hear a lot from overseas:

      "You greedy Americans are so stupid, and too powerful, and always want to have your way! Now, please give us the free thing that we want, because we can't build it ourselves. And just because we want your stuff doesn't mean we have to like you." I'm only exagerating a little bit, here, but the "we hate America, but we want their stuff" attitude is pretty childish, I think.

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  238. Uh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Your search - London - did not match any locations."

  239. umm Map2 + Google Partnes by Gambit-x7x · · Score: 1

    its right on their home page...

    http://www.us.map24.com/

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  240. Re:Nice... and it understand 'main' roads by Wilk4 · · Score: 1
    and, unlike some of the other mappers, it seems to understand main roads at various zoom levels, so it doesn't give you the names of some random neighborhood roads while leaving off the main route roads you really care about.

    The maps are certainly beautiful and much clearer and easier to read than some of the other services.

    I do like having 'link to this map' right there.

  241. Is that for Zoolander, eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But, may be useful if you have problem steering your car in one way or the other, yeah!

  242. Search for maps.google.com on Google by mattspammail · · Score: 1

    Too funny. Google can't find anything in its databases about maps.google.com.

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  243. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by 10Brett-T · · Score: 2, Informative
    I usually pull out mapquest to find the address (cross streets) and then sit there with a subway/bus map to try and figure out how to get there

    Some cities have figured out a solution...
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  244. check the screen size of your browser by Nate+Fox · · Score: 1

    I just noticed that my map is quite big, usually the maps mapquest/yahoo shows are smaller. then I resized my browser. the map resized with it. its still 'full screen'. do they not think of everything?

  245. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 2, Insightful


    I would LOVE to see mass transit options integrated into these mapping services, but I'm not holding my breath. The obstacle as I see it is finding a way to keep route information from all the various mass transit services accurate.

    Driving directions are comparatively easy. Roads will either be there, or won't, and they change maybe once, twice a year at most? But train or bus routes can be different every day, or even at different times of the same day! Users would need to specify not only where they are going, but also when.

  246. Mod Parent UP by iamwahoo2 · · Score: 1

    I have seen a number of European ONLY mapping sites and I have not seen any US Citizens complaining.

  247. Bicyclist by DaoudaW · · Score: 1

    Wow! I concur that has to be about the coolest web app I've seen. As a bicyclist though I'd like to add two things. 1) Traffic density. 2) Elevation profiles. This information is publicly available, but the interfaces are extremely un-user friendly. My idea would be that when you have a route laid out you ask for bicycle format and it changes the route color on a continuum from green to red based on how bicycle friendly it is. And a simple elevation profile underneath.

  248. waterloo, ontario by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I put in "Waterloo, ontario" and it zoomed right too us. It seems to be missing the high school down the street but you can get it if ou zoom a bit further.

  249. Whither Web Service by DamascusRoad · · Score: 1

    Very Cool. Hopefully, before long, a web service interface will be available so I can plug lat/long from my gps into it.

  250. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I second this idea. Mod up, please.

  251. Works under Mac Classic OS 9.2.2 via Mozilla 1.2.1 by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

    Whoo-hoo!

    And it works BETTER that MapQuest or Yahho maps, too.

    Google Maps knows that 1 Kendall Square Cambridge MA 02139 is in Cambridge MA. MapQuest and Yahoo maps insist upon showing me a map of Kendall Street in Boston, near Northeastern University.

    I hope that they get this working with iCab or that the 3.0 version of iCab will work with it, so that I can make this my default mapping application, rather than MapQuest/Yahoo maps.

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  252. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do you really think its that variable? Most mass transit systems have fairly static schedules, changing only the frequency of service throughout the day or weekend.

    It is a difficult, though I don't think intractable problem, and if you also input the rates and fares information for each carrier, you are now talking about being able to incorporate aspects of froogle- and suddenly you can compete with travel sites like expedia- well worth the hassle of integrating with carriers to ensure that schedules are up to date.

    If I was a google (or any map service company employee), I would be probably be known as the crazy guy that spends his day running through the halls screaming at the upper management until they saw my vision, or at least gave me a reasonable reason as to why it could not be implemented.

  253. Boston has trip planning as well by flicken · · Score: 1

    MBTA Trip Planning gives you the public transit options between two addresses.

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  254. Drop shadows? by XunilOS · · Score: 1

    Come on, is 'drop shadows' really a feature worth mentioning? Seems to imply there's so little else to brag about; like how car manufacturers brag about 'rack and pinion steering'. Last I checked, the Model T had that, too.

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  255. [tt]:depends on your os by tomhudson · · Score: 0, Troll
    CTRL+ALT+arrow keys

    will change the orientation of your screen.
    Aha, so now I'm going to end up with a gay screen. So everyone who said linux was gay were really hiding in the closet ... that certainly explains a lot.

    Think of the children. Does George Bush know about this latest threat to marriage and the family? After all, do you want america's children spending hours in front of yet another gay screen (aside from the television, when it's not promoting healthy family values of teamwork like football games, where guys keep slapping each others asses - what's with that, anyway)?

    Does it come with the goat guy wallpaper/screensaver, or is that a separate patch that I have to download from the gnaa?

    1. Re:[tt]:depends on your os by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      orientation, like, doublespeak, like, newthink.

  256. Parts of Canada work, Parts don't, Parts flaky by billstewart · · Score: 1
    It's got lots of street detail in Toronto, but much less detail about Edmonton or Calgary, and far less detail about Inuvik or Tuktoyaktuk NT. Zooming in on Toronto gets you streets; zooming in on Edmonton either gets you blank white space (Mozilla) or panels with dead-link icons (IE). Also, it seems to be flaky about whether you tell it "toronto" or "Toronto ON" or "Toronto on" - not sure if that was capitalization or different choices or servers.

    It doesn't know how to give driving directions from Edmonton to Toronto - but it does know Edmonton to Calgary and Calgary to Toronto, which is just weird.

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  257. How long by doombob · · Score: 1

    How long will it take for the new subdivision I moved into to appear within the online maps? Really, I'm just curious how often these sort of things get updated. There's already a couple hundred people living in my new subdivision, and I'm terrible at giving directions. I have to tell all my out of state friends to meet at a location we both know and have them follow. Well anyway, I'll live somehow, but I thought it was a valid questions.

  258. Aw...pssssht....no vectors by adrew · · Score: 1

    Wow, it would've been great if they could've vectorized it. That way the maps would print at your printer's max DPI--not all pixilated at 72 PPI. Still, it's a damn sight better than all the other ones.

  259. Who is Peggy Marfori? by Drakonian · · Score: 3, Funny
    My pedantry requires that I mentioned that "wherefore art thou" Shakespeare-style actually means Why are you, not Where.

    But assuming you actually meant where, what are you looking for? A long lost girlfriend, Timothy? Are you looking for a map to her new place? What about the restraining order?

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  260. When I grow up. by jcoxatonce · · Score: 1

    OMG, this is awesome. So long Mapquest and RandMcNalley.

    When I grow up, I want to be Google.

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  261. Google strikes again by fm6 · · Score: 1
    But of course it's still Beta. A simple test for "Wilmington, DE to Jersey City, NJ" in my case renders a misplaced blue line that I can't quite make sense of.
    I think "beta" is just Google's typical anti-hyping. They're on a severe "underpromise and overdeliver" trip. Anyway, severe glitches are not unknown on more established mapping engines.

    Interestingly, Map24 is still a "Google partner" according to their web site. And address searches in the U.S. on Google still result in links to Mapquest and Yahoo maps, but none to Google maps. Presumably Google has exclusive arrangements with these companies -- who will not be happy that Google has become a major competitor.

    Another interesting feature: you search for a business, and they seem to search multiple yellow-pages-type web sites for the address. When you get a hit, you also get a link to the web site that provided the listing. So when I searched for Starbucks in downtown San Jose, I got a link to the coffee shops page at SanJose.com. Very cool.

    This is a typical Google announcement. No advance notice, no media hype, and a product that's 10 times as good as anything else out there. The only reason I would continue to use my current favorite (Yahoo Maps) is all the addresses they store for me. Talk about raising the bar.

    On the other hand, Google has been trying to fill a job I'd be perfect for for months. But I can't get an interview, probably because my academic credentials suck. I hates them, I hates them forever!

  262. Rich web apps and browser issues by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

    Web-based apps with the functionality of a desktop app are the next big thing. Macromedia has been pushing this big time. Speaking of Macromedia, if Google had implemented this in Flash they would have overcome the browser issues at a single stroke. That said, this is an incredibly cool tool and I tip my hat to Google.

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  263. Canadian content varies a lot by billstewart · · Score: 1
    Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal, and Winnipeg have lots of detail. Alberta and Saskatchewan don't have much detail - you can't zoom in on Edmonton, for instance. Chicoutimi, QC has big streets but not small street names - it's more detail than Edmonton but less than Toronto. Kamloops BC is low-detail like Edmonton, but Nanaimo BC is street-level.

    Driving directions don't work very well out in the prairies either - I could get directions from Calgary to Edmonton, and Calgary to Toronto, but not Edmonton to Toronto.

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  264. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Please try http://maps.nycboe.net/ there is an option for subways. There is data for bus routes but it is disabled for now.

    Abraham
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    NYC DEPT OF EDUCATION

  265. "don't forget about Israel." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually, I and a whole lot of other people really _would_ like to forget about Israel.

    It's long past time that US tax dollars quit going there.

    The Israelis ran over an innocent American girl ( Rachel Corrie)
    with a bulldozer.

    They deserve nothing from the US, or from anyone else. Let them sink or swim on their own.

    Frankly, the sooner Israel is erased, the better for the rest of the world.

  266. And the most amazing thing by OdieWan · · Score: 1

    All the googlebombs carry across! Miserable Failure (Near Washington DC)

  267. I will now always find coffee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with the exception of a few scaling issues, i enjoy the locate functionality and free from text entry..... "cafes near 19th street and 8th ave new york new york" now i just have to see how to tie it into movabletype blog entries for location blogging.. http://blogx.org/

  268. search google for maps by MERVERNATOR · · Score: 1

    doing a plain google search for "maps" brings back mapquest as the first result. I find that interesting because if this were a MS sort of company, not only could they have been sure to get themselves as the number 1 return, but it would have been there as a first result for about 3 weeks before the product was even available at all.

  269. no, same here... by Run4yourlives · · Score: 1

    I don't see anything but a big beige square.

  270. Keyhole. . . by jhobbs · · Score: 1

    So that's what they wanted with Keyhole. . .

  271. Name searches? Almost creepy... by loqi · · Score: 1

    Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but try:
    someonesname city, state

    If a business page mentions that person's name, it pulls it up on the map as a hit. A friend of mine searched his name and it found the church he frequents. Scary, eh?

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    1. Re:Name searches? Almost creepy... by rlds · · Score: 1

      So the church has a web page or there's some web page associated with this church that has this person's name listed. What's scary about this? You can get the same results without a map interface, just google the person's name.

    2. Re:Name searches? Almost creepy... by loqi · · Score: 1

      It's not quite the same. Googling the person's name searches for anyone with that name, regardless of location. This search is narrowed by city, and it appears that the address doesn't necessarily need to be on the same page as the reference in order for it to link up. Anyway, regardless of the redundancy of the information, getting a direct, visual map result instantly is quite a bit different from sifting through the text of a web page.

      But I was only half-serious with the "scariness" of it; obviously, the ease with which you can find many peoples' SSNs is more realistically disturbing... it's just not as visually obvious.

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  272. some points... by Run4yourlives · · Score: 1

    1. I get a big beige square in Firefox 1.0 on XP, interesting.

    2. The US has somehow extended their interstate system into canada. Our highways all have the american symbols on them... is this part of an evil plot?

    3. Similarly, it would be nice if measurements could be moved into the 21st century. Miles are so passe.

    4. I'll be really impressed when I can get street directions to some place in fiji. :-)

    5. This is VERY impressive... buh bye mapquest, hope none of you had stocks.

    6. They should launch a directory service too...since my company still shows it's old locatino even though we moved in 2003.

    (yes I know it's beta - just making verbal observations.)

  273. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Whygee · · Score: 1

    The Société des Transports de Montréal offers this kind of service and it works pretty well most of the time. You can try it on http://www2.stm.info/azimuts/carte.wcs?eff=OD&lng= a Maybe some other cities do the same thing...

  274. Google's Bigger Picture by UMhydrogen · · Score: 1
    One thing that I noticed while playing around with the new Google Maps is that the interface for it is very similar to the GMail interface. The search bar at the very top followed by 2 links for either help or feedback or some extra option (in Gmail it's create a filter). The same "print" and "email" links are on the right hand side as well (similar to GMail).

    I'm sure Google has a bigger picture in mind and we will eventually see some integrated package between Google the Search Engin, Google the Email serve, Google the map provider, and Google the watever. Throw in Google Desktop and maybe we have the first hints on a Google OS (I don't know I'm just speculating now?).

  275. Nice interface, inaccurate directions by xyu · · Score: 1

    (I know it's beta)

    I just drove from Detroit to Minneapolis. I compared the directions Mapquest gave to Google's. Google's directions were 50 miles longer, but 15 minutes quicker. This shouldn't be possible because the roads it chose differently have the same speed limit.

    I love Google's interface for exploring the maps, but for printing Mapquest still wins. Mapquest uses pictures indicating the highways and turns. Mapquest also keeps the distance in seperate columns. Much easier to read when you're flying down the highway at 80mph.

  276. mumble..mumble..mumble.. by Cassanova · · Score: 1

    ... GOOGLE IS GOD!

    GOOGLE IS GOD!

    I have tears in my eyes. This is awesome....seriously. Note how the map expands and slides smoothly to the "start" when you click on a landmark and then select "to here" to get directions and enter your start point. You can then see the entire sketched direction coupled with that smooth slide...

    Oh. My. God.

  277. No Street Direction by henrykuo · · Score: 1

    One thing that they should implement is to indicate what direction the streets are facing, especially for big cities with lots of one-way streets like New York. Maybe one could assume that driving directions alone are enough, and that a person wouldn't bother checking the street directions of irrelevant streets, but a few arrows on the map can't hurt.

  278. Map24 by davebo · · Score: 1

    Interestingly enough, checking Map24 I see the single road outside my cul-de-sac, in fact, a divided highway. And that I live on the outlet to the cul-de-sac, rather than in the big loopy part.

    I guess I moved.

  279. According to MAP24 in europe by Eilorux · · Score: 1

    Due to the new cooperation between Google, Inc, and Mapsolute GmbH, maker of the unique mapping portal Map24.com, it is now possible to search for city maps in all European Google search engines. If you enter a city name into Google.co.uk, the first result list entry is a special link to Map24.com that brings up the corresponding city map. On the result page, for sure, the full set of the rich Map24 options is available to the users.

  280. Surely you meant "would have had" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    A quick test for driving directions from my work to home on map24 had me driving over a section of road that was pedestrianized about 10 years ago.

    Did blaming map24 hold up in court? Didn't the barriers, warning signs and phenomenal number of jay-walkers give you any hints before you drove over that section of road?

    (I know, it's just that quaint lazy-Brit style of sentence phrasing.)

  281. Re:spectacular UI... and up-to-date (BUT) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Actually, maps@Yahoo is the only one that marks the destination correctly down to the which-side-of-the-street level of detail.

  282. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You want hopstop for NYC area directions with mass transit.

  283. Re:Holy Microsoft misdirection, Batman! by markdowling · · Score: 1

    Google aren't the only ones with bizarre directions...

    The Register has a go at Streets and Trips

  284. Two Suggestions by Bob+Uhl · · Score: 1
    First of all, why don't they accept state abbreviations other than the two-letter codes? It's pretty obvious that 'Colo.' means 'Colorado,' and there are still a good number of us who prefer not to use the idiot official codes.

    Secondly, it would be really cool if they had cycling directions. Bicycles generally cannot travel on interstates, but often can go where cars cannot; it would be a great thing if a map engine offered cycling routes. To my knowledge no-one does this yet: it could become a killer feature.

  285. greatest google creation ever by thanew · · Score: 1

    google has finally taken over the interweb.. this mapping service makes me cream my pants, a lot easier than going to mapquest, soon I'll be able to just type "LAX to ONT" into the google search in firefox and i'll be set!

    1. Re:greatest google creation ever by jdmx · · Score: 1

      You can now. Creat a smart keyword for it in Firefox.

      01. Go to Maps.google.com
      02. Right click in the main text area search box
      03. Select "Add a keyword for this search"
      04. Type in a name (ex. Google Maps)
      05. Type in a keyword (ex. map)
      06. Save it in a folder in your bookmarks

      Now type "map LAX to ONT" in your location bar in firefox and presto.

      Smart Keywords: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/smart-keyw ords.html

  286. Oh GREAT! There go my vacations! by ZoomieDood · · Score: 0

    Lessee now...

    Zoom in to an area 3 square miles in San Francisco... check.

    Move mouse to right arrow.... okay

    Hold down mouse button...

    Yup.... coast to coast in 12.8 minutes. And not a single traffic jam!

    How are we going to justify a 2 week vacation anymore?

  287. Google might have used USPS data for the US-GIS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "The Census has better data, called TIGER, which is half decent, but they only really worry about it being up to date every ten years. For really good, up-to-date data like these services will all need, you're going to be paying big $ to one of a few companies that produce it (by examining aerial photos and even driving around to check)."

    You're forgetting two sources. One is the US military/Intelligence community. The other is local states and municipalities.

    1. Re:Google might have used USPS data for the US-GIS by 2short · · Score: 1

      "You're forgetting two sources. One is the US military/Intelligence community."

      Who probably don't worry about the street layout of some new development on the outskirts of Kansas City, and who won't give you their data anyway. And who almost certainly BUY US street data from the same companies we're talking about.

      "The other is local states and municipalities."
      Who, if they have any data at all, certainly don't have high quality up to date data for the whole country in a consistant format.

  288. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by hackrobat · · Score: 1

    * They did _not_ use Flash

    Well, if they had used Flash, it would be accessible to more users. Flash, running on 98% of desktops, is more ubiquitious than IE + Firefox.

  289. Random observations after playing around with it by babbage · · Score: 1

    The UI is definitely slick, but it definitely has some quirks, some annoying. Some random observations:

    • The maps seem to be three dimensional. Look at the map of a complicated highway interchange and you'll see that it seems to get the over / under ramps correct. (For example, look at this map & zoom all the way in -- it pretty accurately reflects a complicated, braided set of onramps & offramps).
    • On the other hand, it's not completely three dimensional: while the map has surprisingly current data for Boston's Big Dig, for example, it doesn't actually illustrate the points at which the roadway goes underground. Considering that some of these tunnels have surface roads over them, or will in the future if they don't already, finding a way to denote a tunnel seems important.
    • It doesn't show one way streets! This is absolutely essential, especially in urban areas where a lattice of one-way streets can force you to take convoluted routes to follow the seemingly simple paths you could have taken if all the streets were bidirectional. A map service that can't show this data is much less useful than one that does. (That said, the trip planner does seem to show routes with an awareness of one-way streets, and will plot different to & from directions accordingly. So they do have the data, and they do use it where it matters, but they aren't making it visible in the interface. This may have been a deliberate attempt to constrain against information overload, but in this case I think the user really does need that data visible, at least optionally.)
    • While the UI is nice and responsive in a way few other web sites are, it has some idiosynchroncies. For example, if I search to a map, then scroll somewhere else, then go to a different browser tab, it sometimes snaps back to the original search when I come back, rather than whatever I was looking at. If I do a new search, it scrolls to the new location from the old one; while this looks cool and may be the desired result if I'm thinking about directions, other times I may be thinking of a completely new & discrete search, and don't want to treat the two searches as a set -- some kind of "new search" option would be good. (This last one is subtle to describe, but kind of annoying once you pick up on it -- it's definitely useful, but maybe a little too helpful, ya know?)
    • I like the way it dynamically fills up the current browser window size: note the way the map is always just a bit shorter than the current view is tall. If you resize, the page will start scrolling or have a white margin on the bottom, but will quickly redraw to match the new geometry. Clever.
    • The overlay of local data seems much more polished than it was with last year's Google Local. Maybe this will mean abandoning Google Local as a separate entity and incorporating its functionality into Google Maps -- they're already most of the way along to doing exactly this.
    • As widely requested, non-US/Canada data would be nice, but I'm sure such things are on the way. Moreover, Google already pulls interesting geolocation tricks, such that a request for google.com from an internet cafe in, say, Switzerland, will automatically and transparently redirect you to google.ch. Likewise, a search for http://news.google.com will redirect you to http://news.google.com/news?ned=de_ch&hl=de. I'm sure that once this gets going, Google Maps will also automatically send visitors into a mapping application that is relevant to their location.

    Wish list items:

    • Realtime traffic data would be nice, the way
  290. Drop shadows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mmm - just what the world needed more of. :)

  291. San Francisco area transit by phliar · · Score: 1
    I'm planing a trip to SFO, and having a nice on-the-fly map drawn of different bus/train routes would be handy
    For the San Francisco area, try TransitInfo.org. A truly impressive synthesis of some twenty local transit systems.
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  292. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by cpeterso · · Score: 1


    Flash, running on 98% of desktops, is more ubiquitious than IE + Firefox.

    Flash is even more ubiquitious Windows!

  293. Are some of these results ads? by httpamphibio.us · · Score: 1

    If you try to find a business it'll come up with results that are totally unrelated. They aren't labeled as advertisements, but they certainly look suspicious.

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  294. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by phliar · · Score: 2, Informative
    I live in NYC, and whenever I am going somewhere, I usually pull out mapquest to find the address (cross streets) and then sit there with a subway/bus map to try and figure out how to get there.
    I live in San Francisco, and the TransitInfo Trip Planner plans trips, including connections between different transit systems. Here's an example trip. TransitInfo was started by a couple of UC Berkeley students, who ran it on another student's server. Today it's funded by an agency called MTC, a consortium of local (county) governments.

    Perhaps people should lobby their local governments to collaborate with MTC. All it takes is a little leg work to coordinate your transit agencies -- they probably publish schedules and maps on the web already, and at the most it'll be some format changes and/or conversions. I'm sure MTC will share their webapp.

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  295. reverse engineering by savage_panda · · Score: 1

    aquire 1 navtec dataset. bout 20k USD Make A vector renderer to render a few vector layers to raster tiles at different resolutions. Make a a spacial database to index those raster tiles, 13 levels deep. DHTML to query and load those image ties from the spacial DB to image containers. and display them on screen. A serverside app to generate a polyline from two addresses. A serverside app to render a polyline to a transparent png. DHTML to piece together the overlaying objects. Add a beta logo as it is still buggy. Add in marketing hype, a slashdot entry. Watch Shares sore. Profit!

  296. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you get caught robbing a bank, is it ok to tell the cops your plan is still in beta?

    See my point?

    Non cross browser design is inexusable. Displaying a blank page saying "Your browser is not supported by Google Maps just yet" is worst than beta, I call this unusable crap. We are not just talking about unexpected displaying here, that would be understandable, but they actually took the effort to filter out non-javascript browsers instead of displaying a simplified text and image version. This kind of behaviour should end up in jail.

  297. o.O by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    return -ENOTFUNNY;

  298. Double Check by Anm · · Score: 1

    You should double check your results: linky

    1. Re:Double Check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it was a joke, 742 Evergreen Terrace doesn't really exist because it resides in the fictional town of Springfield. It is the address of where the Simpsons live, which, if you watched the show, you would know that there's a running gag that you never find out what state they live in... sheesh!

    2. Re:Double Check by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No shit sherlock. And I found it funny that google came back with a result anyway.

      Fuck. Next time I'll add an "Yes I really get it" disclaimer.

  299. Typically American by rduke15 · · Score: 1

    I searched for Switzerland, and was sent to ... (no, not to Sweden)

    Icc Adult Basic Education
    (620) 332-1420
    200 Arco Pl
    Independence, KS 67301

    Makes me wonder what Adult Basic Education may be about. And what is the relation to the small chocolate-watches-banks-mountains country? All the "educators" are called Heidi?

  300. Where is Route 66 by felipin-sioux · · Score: 1

    I can't find it anywhere around California.. Has someone got any search which displays it?

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  301. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    www.straphangers.org

    has had the maps you're looking for for a LONG TIME.

  302. Rural Canada by PresidentKang · · Score: 1

    Actually, I was quite impressed by the accuracy and detail of rural Canada in the map. For example, my family has a summer home in the middle of central Ontario and while Mapquest doesn't even know it exists and Mappoint (which I'm almost instantly starting to like less now even though you can drag the map there too) has the lake as a shapeless blue blob, GoogleMaps has all the roads with accurate names (including unnamed gravel roads to nowhere) and fantastically detailed shorelines and islands to scale.

  303. Errors in the Map Database Itself by midnightthunder · · Score: 1

    So I see this great new service from Google and decide to check it out.

    Being a creature of habit, I zoom in on a place known as Calico Ghost Town Regional Park. I am able to zoom in much closer than with other programs that I have used. This is great.

    Then I notice something. Running North out of Calico, it shows a road heading off into the Calico Mountains. Right up Wall Street Canyon. Heading right on up and paying no never no mind to the 200 foot tall dead vertical waterfall that is in the head of the canyon.

    Take a look
    http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=34.946838%2C-116.86 6057&spn=0.020020%2C0.019419

    I have been on the ground there and know for an irrefutable fact that there is no road up that canyon, and that there never will be for there is no need or reason for such.

    So now I am wondering. What is the resource that Google has used for their map database ? And just how many such errors does it contain ?

    1. Re:Errors in the Map Database Itself by Teddy+Beartuzzi · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's one of those mythical "intentional copy protection errors".

  304. But... by eglamkowski · · Score: 1

    The underlying maps it uses appear to be from the same sources as mapquest. They have the same errors on the addresses I'm aware of as being wrong.

    Like the street where I live - it's really a dead end, but both google and mapquest show it as connecting to the next road over.

    The other addresses I know are wrong are wrong in exactly the same ways on both services.

    A better interface is great and all, but if the information being served up is still wrong, so what?

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  305. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by pangloss · · Score: 1

    So who knows anything about how this DHTML/JavaScript is implemented (commentary, not the source, which is obviously viewable)? It works amazingly well (zooming, panning), even during a slashdotting.

  306. What about saving maps? by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 1

    I'd like to be able to save maps onto my PDA (Zaurus) that Google outputs, rather than print them out. Unfortunately, I see no way to save Google maps... :(

    Mapquest lets me do it though.

    1. Re:What about saving maps? by adrew · · Score: 1

      You'll have to take a screenshot since the maps are made up of a bunch of separate images. It ain't too hard, 'specially if you can set your monitor to something like 1600x1200...it'll scale to fill the whole screen.

    2. Re:What about saving maps? by Money+for+Nothin' · · Score: 1

      That's one way... But that's so ugly and inefficient...

      Actually, I'd really like to be able to just use the site on the Zaurus directly, in the Opera browser the Zaurus has. But maps.google.com doesn't support Opera yet, so...

  307. beta, definitely by xgamer04 · · Score: 1

    It's missing the lake by my town...

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  308. Why is it so slow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does it run so slow on Firefox 1.0 in Mac OS x 10.3.7 ? Dragging the map takes FOREVER --

    it was much faster/instant on Firefox 1.0 on my PC at work?

    Mactroubles?

    1. Re:Why is it so slow by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      Why does it run so slow on Firefox 1.0 in Mac OS x 10.3.7 ? Dragging the map takes FOREVER --

      It's extremely responsive here. So fast, in fact, that I'm scratching my head wondering how they did it. FWIW, I'm running a dual 2GHz.

  309. GPS lat & long. coordinates missing again by tweedlebait · · Score: 1

    It would make my life much easier. about every map service has removed them from end user view. shame really. Otherwise it's great.

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  310. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by danharan · · Score: 1

    Well, first off I love the idea. I thought of it myself, and contacted my city's transit system admins to get the schedules and long/lat coordinates for the stops (I live in Halifax, NS).

    It turns out they won't even let the bus drivers get the information in electronic format (except for a limited set of stops in PDF). Compare to cities like San Francisco, Paris... you'd scarcely believe we had bleeding edge technology just 15 years ago.

    This is simple technology. Finding the shortest route between two points is not a complicated algorithm to implement. What this requires is vision, something many transit bureaucracies lack.

    The best release their version of trip planners with their crappy UIs, but I want real-time data to be free so hackers can experiment with better ways of delivering it. And neat ways to integrate it, analyze it, and whatever else hackers will do with data.

    You mentionned that this could be profitable, and you are absolutely correct. Knowing where people come from, where they go and when tells you a lot about them that is of use to marketers. That can be a problem, as bureaucracies will want money for the information. Either they develop their own trip planning website/subsite, or they charge for access to the information.

    Perhaps I'm bitter that I couldn't do it. Try with your city's transit, and I wish you better luck there. Perhaps after a few let their citizens develop nice applications my city's administrators will come to their collective senses. I'm not giving up hope just yet.

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  311. poor data integrity by goon · · Score: 1
    ground truth is something I'm interested in. Is the image on the map the same as on the ground. Well it looks like the company supplying the google data has priorities else where.
    • '... NAVTEQ digital map data is built on the roads of the world. Five hundred NAVTEQ field researchers from over 100 offices drive millions of meters of the road network each year ... These field teams are constantly verifying and updating the database, not only in terms of road geometry, but also in details ... [NAVTEQ Difference - www.navteq.com promo information.] ...'

    I agree the readability of the information is better than most - if scant attention to the *quality* of the *changing* data is not addressed (500 people truth checking the entire US - let alone the major cities) the service will be substandard for all but the routine point to point navigation.

    I think I'll journal more on this topic.

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  312. they bought keyhole... by Run4yourlives · · Score: 1

    they're not done yet... this has a way to go.

  313. Firefox woes by fleener · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah, I'm using Firefox 1.0 under Windows and it's not working for me. I had to dig out Internet Explorer to look at this dud. I guess I'm the only Firefox user in the world who can't use this thing.

    1. Re:Firefox woes by I+Be+Hatin' · · Score: 1

      I had some problems too, but checking "allow scripts to change images" (under prefs->web features->advanced) solved my problem.

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    2. Re:Firefox woes by fleener · · Score: 1

      Oh Lord! Thanks, Firefox accesses Google Maps now. I find it very very difficult to believe I turned off that obscure, buried function. I'm surprised more Firefox users aren't complaining. I'm also disappointed that Google couldn't troubleshoot the problem for me.

  314. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Try straphangers.org. Shows subway stops and lines around any location in the 5 boroughs.

  315. insane greatness by moving_comfort · · Score: 1

    Insanely great for it's genre. Smooth user transitions between functions, elegant, intuitive, fast. Fun to use. A+.

  316. Re:GPS lat & long. coordinates missing again by moving_comfort · · Score: 1

    Why have they been removed?

  317. Ah, yes, Microsoft's directions by Trinition · · Score: 1

    I once used Microsoft's Expedia to get directions to the Indiannapolis airport. It got me just about there, but a chainlink fence with a warning sign on it separated me from the runway. So, I turned around and found some main roads to get to the airport entrance on my own, instead.

    I don't use Expedia anymore.

  318. Re:Repeat after me... (from mail I sent to friends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. This kind of behaviour should end up in jail.

    Me thinks the AC protests too much.

  319. I for one, by Neop2Lemus · · Score: 1
    as a Canadian, am glad to see that they have recognized Canada's borders as not ending on the mainland. We do own all the way up to the pole.

    Keyhole didn't have this, I'm glad it's been corrected here.

    Another excited user.

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  320. Re:GPS lat & long. coordinates missing again by tweedlebait · · Score: 1

    I'm not completely sure. Mapquest and others used to provide this info when they started but don't now. Perhaps they're protecting their map data from other services. now there's wayhoo.com where you can take mapquest map and it will give you gps coords, but it goes up and down (currently down).
    I'd love to be able to just download waypoints into my gps so I don't get lost and do travel blogging the same way with some maps easily- also taging photos with locations, etc. some of this is available but usually proprietary and not integrated.

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  321. Some features are still missing by Nicopa · · Score: 1

    I've tried at different zoom levels, and in different zones and I couldn't paint zones as being commercial or residential. I couldn't use the bulldozer either.

  322. Blech it sucks by fleener · · Score: 1

    Nevermind. It's marking one-way streets in the same color as highways. The hotel I looked for doesn't exist. A search for a restaurant turned up the restaurant and a ton of unrelated businesses (who don't even have similiar names, nor sell food). The interface is neat, but the content NEEDS LOTS OF WORK.

  323. Keyhole too? by yodha · · Score: 1

    Google Maps might have got help from their Keyhole acquisition too.

  324. Not fast on dial-up! by antdude · · Score: 1

    I tried it over a broadband connection. It was nice, but on dial-up. Yuck!

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  325. Live traffic maps would be useful... by antdude · · Score: 1
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  326. A few maps only by AndyCanfield · · Score: 1

    maps.google.com is not yet useful to the ninety-five percent of the worlds population that lives outside the United States. A nice little toy for the few people who live in that area.

    1. Re:A few maps only by ZioPino · · Score: 1

      And boy! we are so happy your not one of us.

    2. Re:A few maps only by AndyCanfield · · Score: 1

      So am I. Have you ever been to Thailand? I have over 35 years of experience with computing; I could live anywhere in the world. (:>)=

  327. Re:GPS lat & long. coordinates missing again by ridgetownrick · · Score: 1

    The only service I know of that still provides lat and lon is maporama.com which is much better than mapquest anyway, IMHO.

  328. Re:It's all coming together now. Keyhole! by luserSPAZ · · Score: 1

    I thought this was neat, so I wrote a quick Firefox extension to show the current Google Maps location in Keyhole. Only works on Windows, obviously, and of course you need Keyhole installed, but the free trial works.

    Google Maps to Keyhole 0.1

    It's not perfect, since it doesn't take zoom level into account, but it works.

  329. Re:GPS lat & long. coordinates missing again by tweedlebait · · Score: 1

    THANK YOU! You're absolutely right!

    May the utility gods bless you.

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  330. Previously done... by blais · · Score: 0

    For those who are tempted to think that Google is the first to come up a sleek interface for maps, check this interactive map of switzerland, it's very similar:

    http://map.search.ch/

  331. map extensions by 53cur!ty · · Score: 1

    Google. where are the satellite pictures? Being able to zoom in on that would be cool.

    I'm waiting for lunar.maps.google.com and mars.maps.google.com!!

  332. USA, THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD !! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I KNEW IT !!!, zoom out, have a look at the earth, I knew it was a scam all along, like the Moon landings. Trust Google to blow the coverup Wide Open !!!

  333. Rural Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When clicking on the Manicouagan Crater in Quebec, I got lots of red X action...

    http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA0338 5

  334. US maps for a REASON! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been looking at overseas maps... especially since the Tsunami, and I know why there are sketchy details. Some of these places don't have real roads. Other places have no businesses, no tourism, and no one with an internet connection. Why would we need a road map with directions for Banda Aceh? Yet people bitch because they think that these map sites are ONLY for the US? Most of them cover Europe, Australia, and the populated parts of Asia, Africa, and South America.

    If you want a road map for the Serengeti, good luck.

  335. Poland by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't forget Poland!

  336. MOD PARENT DOWN!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Parent is a known troll. Mod him down!

  337. + Google Local? More like instead of... by BobPaul · · Score: 1

    I wouldn't doubt if this either becomes very heavily integrated into google local or basically replaces google local entirely.

    Look at the great searches you can do. Don't like that example? Type pizza in the search box and stay in the same city... Pretty cool indeed!

  338. Pizza in Detroit??? by Equis · · Score: 1

    Apparently there's still no pizza in Detroit.

    Those bastards in Windsor, Ontario, Canada are hoarding all our pizza.

    With Little Ceasar's, Domino's and Hungry Howies all based out of Detroit, you'd think we'd have some of our own.

  339. Re:When is someone going to integrate mass transit by Iswiwd · · Score: 1

    for SF/Bay Area check out:
    http://www.transitinfo.org/tripplanner/index.asp