The proposed W3C PUA CG proposes to address the problem with technical solutions at the web browser, such as restricting the back channels available to Javascript, and also by proposing HTML extensions to mitigate lost functionality.
In other words, we are going to break functionality used in just about every website out there, especially SAAS platforms that depend on it for delivering software.
That's okay though, because we are going to replace that functionality with HTML extension. You have tens of thousands of dollars to pump back into software development right?
Sheesh. I get where they are coming from, but man does it suck for people actually trying to develop and deliver complex platforms with web browsers as front ends.
And the reason why everyone isn't arrested is because the police couldn't give two fucks about what you're doing as long as it isn't bothering anyone else or quite obviously dangerous.
It must be nice to be that ignorant and naive. The police must be some sort of nebulous entity to you. Strict enforcers of justice, purely impartial, free from corruption, and acting with an unending, unwavering, and pure interest in the greater good.
Police are people too. Notice how hard they are fighting back against people video taping their activities? Have you ever heard from somebody that has been targeted and harassed by the police and city because they are making "waves"?
These people don't need more tools to abuse you with. They have plenty.
The easiest way to avoid the police under the most Orwellian camera system imaginable is: Don't look like a criminal, don't act like a criminal.
Ohhh shit. We need to get you in front of a camera so you can deliver this pearl of wisdom to the whole world ASAP.
Sooo... just what does a criminal look like? Just what do they "do"? I say that because the most sociopathic and dangerous assholes the planet has ever seen walk around in expensive suits.
I see... you must be simplistically talking about people walking around in hoodies....
Whining about how you should be allowed to do whatever you want and act however you want is childish bullshit. You act like a child, you're going to get treated as one. You act like a douchebag, you're going to get treated as one. First impressions, and all.
No, you dick. All most of want is some shred of privacy and dignity in our lives. Freedom is not just doing whatever you want and acting however you want. That's anarchy you douchenozzle. Freedom is not anarchy.
Even if you do act like an idiot for the cameras, your idea of how much information police will get from the recordings is pure paranoid delusions. Especially the parts where the cameras somehow have enough details to tell how Leinad177 pays for anything, the specific food that was ordered, and anything at all he did at work (or even which specific computer in the network he was using to find out he was browsing/.), and the police somehow having enough influence to get the IRS involved when they're just pissed at someone.
I guess you have never heard of Total Informational Awareness (TIA) hmmmmmm? That would be too complicated for you, abstracting the world as a bunch of nodes that continually create data and affect other nodes. A bunch of complicated math, terms, etc.
Well to simplify it for you, the police and governments are increasingly beating down the doors of wireless carriers and social network with legislation and strong arm tactics to gain access to the all the information that they have.
If the police have biometrics, it is very highly probable they are going to use a database that has biometric information on just about everybody in a city. It's called the DMV. Furthermore, the police could just issue requests to the wireless carriers to identify all the "tracking devices" that were present within 50 feet of the area in question at that specific time. You would think that would be problematic, but law enforcement has been pushing for years to have an honor based system for real time intercepts and access to this information.
As for the payments, was the person using a debit or credit card? If you think VISA, Master Card, AMEX, etc. have not already been working with TIA, then you are hopelessly naive. The police could just request that information from Dunkin Donuts. Do you really think somebody working at corporate for Dunkin Donuts is going to deny Law Enforcement something as innocent sounding as a persons purchase history for the month (via their rewards membership tracking card)?
How would the police officer been able to track his mov
I was just thinking why don't we just say fuck it and make a wonderfully complicated game where the point was hacking and cheating.
A virtual world where the leader boards are filled with those who have the greatest skill and resources at hacking the code, abusing other players, spreading misinformation, hijacking networks, and generally being as shitty to everyone in the virtual world as possible.
Then I realized we don't have to create this game. That's how the real world works and is why we can't have nice things.
That's kind of a bad example because art is all about perception and some sort of statement from the artist. Would you say Andy Warhol was infringing upon Campbell's IP?
Just what exactly makes something original? I would actually claim that the work of art you propose is original because it is striking and thought provoking. It's the Mona Lisa, but why does she have a stache? Why are there 10 pictures in a row? Why does this one have a goatee?
In Zynga's case so much was copied, most people would put in the high 90's as a percentage, it is hard to claim any kind of originality, or even attempt at originality in their work.
However, just how many ways can you abstract a simulated environment in such cartoonish ways? While Zynga clearly needs to get bent over by the courts and a proper financial ass reaming, we should still be careful on just how broad of a protection we give works like this. Especially, when originality as far as art is concerned is so amazingly subjective.
The explosive absolutely. I just started from there as way to reduce collateral damage as you can use shaped charges. Not even necessary though if your goal is just to disable the technology, and counterproductive if you actually care about not injuring innocent bystanders.
Something stupid simple like hanging a Guy Fawkes mask off the sensor hardly qualifies as a guided missile.
I don't think traffic tickets fall into quite the same category.
Certainly not. However, civil disobedience over mass surveillance for the farce that is protecting citizens with speeding tickets is an act of conscience over something notable.
How the hell does a recall even work? Does the customer get compensated? Is it just the government stealing property from the citizens?
I understand a recall in the auto industry, but that seems to be voluntary on the part of the consumer. If this is voluntary then it is hilarious. Does the judge think people will just give up their property without a fight and go purchase Apple products?
The speed limit laws are not as important as privacy here. Ultimately, the loss of privacy will prove far more harmful to society than some speeders.
If the speed cameras were only designed to catch speeders and it was impossible to gather mass information that violates citizens privacy I would readily agree with you. However, it is not. They are recording license plates and amassing a database that has only one purpose. Violate citizens privacy.
The whole thing is a farce. If the true purpose of speeding tickets was to modify people's behavior to make society safer, than tickets would not be used. They only serve to increase revenue for the municipalities they exist in. Nothing more.
If you gave each and every person 10 hours of community service for every 1 mph over the limit, you would see speed violations plummet .
No. I'll continue to come up with ways to destroy, or otherwise inhibit the functions of the cameras, without collateral damage. We don't need to increase the speed limits. What needs to change is the punishment. Good luck doing that since nobody ever wants to give up revenue, ever.
Then you have cities modifying how long the orange light is to increase revenue from red light cameras too. The government does not even play fair either.
No, No, No.
The correct move is to deny them the technology with civil disobedience if required.
RC Helicopter. Just create a payload with a strong magnet. Fly by, stick it to the camera, and detonate. Small controlled explosion with no collateral damage. Even better, just design something to block the camera itself. Sticks on and is passive. No damage to anything.
What about high powered lasers? Cameras can't be watching everywhere. Set a laser up to hit the camera over a longer period of time and it will be slow damage, but ultimately very effective. Has an added bonus that anybody caught while the camera was an impaired can effectively argue against the ticket due to the damage.
I'm all for civil disobedience and the destruction of these cameras, but that's not an excuse to break out the ol' RPG.
What would be the optimal solution is actual mass protests. Have real human beings blocking cameras and sensors with their own bodies. That stops the cameras from functioning and has the added benefit of a quite visible protest.
Right now it is a tragedy of the commons. Nobody will acknowledge the incredible shortage in the next coming decade and those who have the power over the reserves are basically sticking their heads in the sand. Sales are being pushed against the counsel of those who know better, which results in artificially cheap helium prices. The excuse was reducing the deficit.
Search Slashdot for some articles. I can't find it, but there was an article on helium policy within the last week in the US.
In the same fashion as climate science deniers, there are those that are claiming there are hundreds of years left of helium. This conveniently leaves out the cost of actually getting it from the ground.
Granted, it is assumptions on how much helium is in the ground, but that does not change the facts:
* limited amount. Not going to be anymore. * difficulty in extracting it as a resource. * ever increasing demand.
Unless we change our policies, helium is going to become a vary rare resource, much sooner than you think. Just seems foolish to put it in a balloon and force prices so cheap that we can afford not to recapture the helium off such uses as you mentioned.
Small price to pay for increased capacity and decreased volume per unit of capacity per disk.
Until it is all gone, or $10k for a recharge instead of $1.
There is a world wide helium shortage and a bunch of morons administrating the reserves. Average person just does not know, and why would they? We have been wasting it in balloons for most people's lives.
Barring a massive increase in technology, it is a completely nonrenewable resource. Unless you look at it in geological time frames, and even then, the planet only has so much.
By the time I retire MRI machines might cost several more times to operate just because of the helium costs alone....
Sorry, from the context it seemed like USB was not only required as the charging method, but as a data sharing method. Waterproofing the connection alone seemed insufficient, and mateable while having some water in the connector is what I thought the question was.
Routing issues aside, the problem could have been largely mitigated with reasonable TTLs IHMO.
I refuse to use GoDaddy because they are lying fucking sociopaths, but from time to time, I do need to help people out with services hosted there. Last time I saw a DNS control panel it had TTLs of 30 minutes as the default for most DNS records.
The outage lasted 6 hours. If you had a TTL of 12-24 hours you would have been just fine, unless I am completely off base on how caching DNS servers operate.
Such short TTLs don't make sense anyways for most use cases. DDNS, and some setups I can understand having it, but webservers and mailservers?
Slashdot Mirror
We only learn one way: By fucking it up.
Uh huh. That's not fucking true. Plenty of men have been fucking up for years trying to keep women happy and still have not learned how yet....
Perhaps you meant the opportunity is there to learn, but we often fuck that up too.
The proposed W3C PUA CG proposes to address the problem with technical solutions at the web browser, such as restricting the back channels available to Javascript, and also by proposing HTML extensions to mitigate lost functionality.
In other words, we are going to break functionality used in just about every website out there, especially SAAS platforms that depend on it for delivering software.
That's okay though, because we are going to replace that functionality with HTML extension. You have tens of thousands of dollars to pump back into software development right?
Sheesh. I get where they are coming from, but man does it suck for people actually trying to develop and deliver complex platforms with web browsers as front ends.
On a related note, Randall watches Peep Show.
Fucko, we like to call it inter-species erotica.
The fact this got modded +5 Insightful makes the burn all that more impressive.
Ohh, and the guy in the grass is masturbating.
Thank you for a perfectly cromulent answer.
Hilarious amounts of dilation, sure, but nothing wibbly-wobbly.
Can you knock out a +5 informative on what wibbly-wobbly means?
And the reason why everyone isn't arrested is because the police couldn't give two fucks about what you're doing as long as it isn't bothering anyone else or quite obviously dangerous.
It must be nice to be that ignorant and naive. The police must be some sort of nebulous entity to you. Strict enforcers of justice, purely impartial, free from corruption, and acting with an unending, unwavering, and pure interest in the greater good.
Police are people too. Notice how hard they are fighting back against people video taping their activities? Have you ever heard from somebody that has been targeted and harassed by the police and city because they are making "waves"?
These people don't need more tools to abuse you with. They have plenty.
The easiest way to avoid the police under the most Orwellian camera system imaginable is: Don't look like a criminal, don't act like a criminal.
Ohhh shit. We need to get you in front of a camera so you can deliver this pearl of wisdom to the whole world ASAP.
Sooo... just what does a criminal look like? Just what do they "do"? I say that because the most sociopathic and dangerous assholes the planet has ever seen walk around in expensive suits .
I see... you must be simplistically talking about people walking around in hoodies....
Whining about how you should be allowed to do whatever you want and act however you want is childish bullshit. You act like a child, you're going to get treated as one. You act like a douchebag, you're going to get treated as one. First impressions, and all.
No, you dick. All most of want is some shred of privacy and dignity in our lives. Freedom is not just doing whatever you want and acting however you want. That's anarchy you douchenozzle. Freedom is not anarchy.
Even if you do act like an idiot for the cameras, your idea of how much information police will get from the recordings is pure paranoid delusions. Especially the parts where the cameras somehow have enough details to tell how Leinad177 pays for anything, the specific food that was ordered, and anything at all he did at work (or even which specific computer in the network he was using to find out he was browsing /.), and the police somehow having enough influence to get the IRS involved when they're just pissed at someone.
I guess you have never heard of Total Informational Awareness (TIA) hmmmmmm? That would be too complicated for you, abstracting the world as a bunch of nodes that continually create data and affect other nodes. A bunch of complicated math, terms, etc.
Well to simplify it for you, the police and governments are increasingly beating down the doors of wireless carriers and social network with legislation and strong arm tactics to gain access to the all the information that they have.
If the police have biometrics, it is very highly probable they are going to use a database that has biometric information on just about everybody in a city. It's called the DMV. Furthermore, the police could just issue requests to the wireless carriers to identify all the "tracking devices" that were present within 50 feet of the area in question at that specific time. You would think that would be problematic, but law enforcement has been pushing for years to have an honor based system for real time intercepts and access to this information.
As for the payments, was the person using a debit or credit card? If you think VISA, Master Card, AMEX, etc. have not already been working with TIA, then you are hopelessly naive. The police could just request that information from Dunkin Donuts. Do you really think somebody working at corporate for Dunkin Donuts is going to deny Law Enforcement something as innocent sounding as a persons purchase history for the month (via their rewards membership tracking card)?
How would the police officer been able to track his mov
I was just thinking why don't we just say fuck it and make a wonderfully complicated game where the point was hacking and cheating.
A virtual world where the leader boards are filled with those who have the greatest skill and resources at hacking the code, abusing other players, spreading misinformation, hijacking networks, and generally being as shitty to everyone in the virtual world as possible.
Then I realized we don't have to create this game. That's how the real world works and is why we can't have nice things.
cheaters and trolls sometimes run in packs.
Sometimes?
Have you ever seen just one Orc?
Now I am imagining all the executives of both companies being Ferengis. You know.... it just seems to fit perfectly.
In fact, if anybody ever does a documentary about this legal battle (like Microsoft vs Apple) they should use Ferengis as the actors.
Is it not an original work of art?
That's kind of a bad example because art is all about perception and some sort of statement from the artist. Would you say Andy Warhol was infringing upon Campbell's IP?
Just what exactly makes something original? I would actually claim that the work of art you propose is original because it is striking and thought provoking. It's the Mona Lisa, but why does she have a stache? Why are there 10 pictures in a row? Why does this one have a goatee?
In Zynga's case so much was copied, most people would put in the high 90's as a percentage, it is hard to claim any kind of originality, or even attempt at originality in their work.
However, just how many ways can you abstract a simulated environment in such cartoonish ways? While Zynga clearly needs to get bent over by the courts and a proper financial ass reaming, we should still be careful on just how broad of a protection we give works like this. Especially, when originality as far as art is concerned is so amazingly subjective.
Fuck.
I always knew those two stupid bastards were up to no good. Always getting me into trouble.
Demolition Man
Well that's all fine and fucking dandy. I'l be damnded before they make me use the three seashells.
They can pry my Charmin out of my cold dead hands.......
Don't worry. They'll make something for you soon. Be patient.
The explosive absolutely. I just started from there as way to reduce collateral damage as you can use shaped charges. Not even necessary though if your goal is just to disable the technology, and counterproductive if you actually care about not injuring innocent bystanders.
Something stupid simple like hanging a Guy Fawkes mask off the sensor hardly qualifies as a guided missile.
I don't think traffic tickets fall into quite the same category.
Certainly not. However, civil disobedience over mass surveillance for the farce that is protecting citizens with speeding tickets is an act of conscience over something notable.
If you read the post I was responding to...
Which will mean higher power longer range attacks will be used. Thus endangering more people. I am not saying people should do that, but they will.
... you could see I was offering more passive solutions, and ones designed to have far less potential of injuring people.
Does a mask and a baseball hat qualify as a high power long range attack?
How the hell does a recall even work? Does the customer get compensated? Is it just the government stealing property from the citizens?
I understand a recall in the auto industry, but that seems to be voluntary on the part of the consumer. If this is voluntary then it is hilarious. Does the judge think people will just give up their property without a fight and go purchase Apple products?
The speed limit laws are not as important as privacy here. Ultimately, the loss of privacy will prove far more harmful to society than some speeders.
If the speed cameras were only designed to catch speeders and it was impossible to gather mass information that violates citizens privacy I would readily agree with you. However, it is not. They are recording license plates and amassing a database that has only one purpose. Violate citizens privacy.
The whole thing is a farce. If the true purpose of speeding tickets was to modify people's behavior to make society safer, than tickets would not be used. They only serve to increase revenue for the municipalities they exist in. Nothing more.
If you gave each and every person 10 hours of community service for every 1 mph over the limit, you would see speed violations plummet .
No. I'll continue to come up with ways to destroy, or otherwise inhibit the functions of the cameras, without collateral damage. We don't need to increase the speed limits. What needs to change is the punishment. Good luck doing that since nobody ever wants to give up revenue, ever.
Then you have cities modifying how long the orange light is to increase revenue from red light cameras too. The government does not even play fair either.
No, No, No.
The correct move is to deny them the technology with civil disobedience if required.
It can more simple than that.
RC Helicopter. Just create a payload with a strong magnet. Fly by, stick it to the camera, and detonate. Small controlled explosion with no collateral damage. Even better, just design something to block the camera itself. Sticks on and is passive. No damage to anything.
What about high powered lasers? Cameras can't be watching everywhere. Set a laser up to hit the camera over a longer period of time and it will be slow damage, but ultimately very effective. Has an added bonus that anybody caught while the camera was an impaired can effectively argue against the ticket due to the damage.
I'm all for civil disobedience and the destruction of these cameras, but that's not an excuse to break out the ol' RPG.
What would be the optimal solution is actual mass protests. Have real human beings blocking cameras and sensors with their own bodies. That stops the cameras from functioning and has the added benefit of a quite visible protest.
It IS valuable.
Right now it is a tragedy of the commons. Nobody will acknowledge the incredible shortage in the next coming decade and those who have the power over the reserves are basically sticking their heads in the sand. Sales are being pushed against the counsel of those who know better, which results in artificially cheap helium prices. The excuse was reducing the deficit.
Search Slashdot for some articles. I can't find it, but there was an article on helium policy within the last week in the US.
In the same fashion as climate science deniers, there are those that are claiming there are hundreds of years left of helium. This conveniently leaves out the cost of actually getting it from the ground.
Granted, it is assumptions on how much helium is in the ground, but that does not change the facts:
* limited amount. Not going to be anymore.
* difficulty in extracting it as a resource.
* ever increasing demand.
Unless we change our policies, helium is going to become a vary rare resource, much sooner than you think. Just seems foolish to put it in a balloon and force prices so cheap that we can afford not to recapture the helium off such uses as you mentioned.
Small price to pay for increased capacity and decreased volume per unit of capacity per disk.
Until it is all gone, or $10k for a recharge instead of $1.
There is a world wide helium shortage and a bunch of morons administrating the reserves. Average person just does not know, and why would they? We have been wasting it in balloons for most people's lives.
Barring a massive increase in technology, it is a completely nonrenewable resource. Unless you look at it in geological time frames, and even then, the planet only has so much.
By the time I retire MRI machines might cost several more times to operate just because of the helium costs alone....
Man, if you were fishing for Wooshes......
Sorry, from the context it seemed like USB was not only required as the charging method, but as a data sharing method. Waterproofing the connection alone seemed insufficient, and mateable while having some water in the connector is what I thought the question was.
Routing issues aside, the problem could have been largely mitigated with reasonable TTLs IHMO.
I refuse to use GoDaddy because they are lying fucking sociopaths, but from time to time, I do need to help people out with services hosted there. Last time I saw a DNS control panel it had TTLs of 30 minutes as the default for most DNS records.
The outage lasted 6 hours. If you had a TTL of 12-24 hours you would have been just fine, unless I am completely off base on how caching DNS servers operate.
Such short TTLs don't make sense anyways for most use cases. DDNS, and some setups I can understand having it, but webservers and mailservers?