It's more graduated than that actually. I was just ribbing the guy in a friendly way, but there are flightless birds, birds that are true VTOL, birds that need practically no space to achieve flight, and birds that need considerable horizontal distance to achieve flight.
Hummingbirds are true VTOL. Small birds like finches can start flying straight up nearly from a perched position. Pigeons can do the same, as well as many birds like that. Once you get large enough, yes you do need some run-up time. I omitted that part. You then have flightless birds like Emus, and Ostriches.
On the whole though, I think there are more birds that require very, very little run-up time, if any, to get airborne. I don't need an understanding of physics either.. Those are direct observations for decades.
The hummingbird is true VTOL. Every other bird, unlike a plane, does not require 10+ times its length to take off for flight. I know this.... because.... I have been watching birds my whole life.
Last time I checked pigeons don't have runways. There are not other pigeons 10 feet away holding up lights like in Chicken Run helping other pigeons take off.
Perhaps extremely large birds might require some time to take off. Those are exceptions to the rule.
Do you call all birds that don't have VTOL capability non-flying birds?
Technically..... yes:)
Ostriches, Emus, Penguins, etc. fall into that category. Can you give an example of a bird without VTOL (Starts flying from a perched position) that can fly otherwise?
The 9th is a blanket statement that is supposed to cover everything. Just more lawyer speak like, "Including, but not limited to", in many contracts. The 10th relates the power of the states and the restrictions on the feds.
However, the vast majority of people have no real understanding of the Constitution or those Amendments. There is a prevalent misconception in the public that any right not defined in the Constitution does not exist. Since there is not a right that specifically talks about Privacy and Anonymity (you have to do some thinking about search and seizures) some people think it does not exist at all and it is merely some consumer protection stuff that can be violated at will.
We should not have needed the 9th Amendment. I understand back then the prevailing thought was to protect people by enumerating rights, but in hindsight it was a bad idea. We should have stated that the people maintain all rights, especially those that cannot be currently articulated, and the government maintains no rights at all inherently. Starting at that point there should have been Amendments defining rights (and duties) of the government, defining federal government, interactions between states, etc.
Of course I say this precisely because of that AC poster. People like that honestly believe that there are no rights to privacy, this AC completely ignored the 4th, and that mere school administrators should have Judge Dredd like investigative powers. Then you get posts asking for citations for shit's sake.
However, I did not need to do so. There is no situation in which it is correct or lawful for the administration to demand the credentials to any online accounts held by the teacher.
If the administration had reason to believe that such actions did in fact happen, then the correct and lawful course of action would be to report it to the authorities. The co-worker that may be a victim has rights and remedies under the law.
The proper venue for this argument is a court. Just because that may be difficult for some people (especially the MAFIAA), does not mean we can bypass due process.
The first problem was that we defined our rights. What should have happened is that we defined the rights of the government to perform actions against the citizens, and that anything that was undeclared was a right of the citizens and a restriction upon government. We fucked up, and now we have to deal with it.
In any case, try looking at the 4th amendment if you want something spelled out. Privacy and anonymity is very much in the spirit of Freedom, which is what the US was founded for.
Most assuredly, not fiction in any sense of the word. If you live in the US, I suggest moving to someplace like North Korea or China. More suitable to your philosophies, I am certain.
The situation is all the more unconscionable since it does not even involve law enforcement. Those are the only people that should be able to violate your privacy to protect both you and the public, and with considerable checks, balances, oversight, and consequences when they fail.
If common sense prevails there will be a multi-million dollar judgment against the school and those administrators will be fired.
Sorry, but that last part was so ridiculous it barely deserved an answer at all.
Candid photos? Seriously? "Or Worse"? That implies there is something wrong with candid photos of children. It further implies that my own parents are evil pedophiles simply because they have a picture of me naked in the tub at 3 years old in a photo album, that could actually be picked up by a guest in the house!
It's that kind of retarded sentiment from parents that want teachers thrown in jail for reading a sci-fi book out loud, the word dinosaur removed from tests because there can be emotions associated with the "controversy" of evolution that are part of a serious problem in this country that only keeps growing.
Those people honestly believe in suspending freedoms to shove their own hysterical beliefs down our throats. That AC was no better than a member of the Taliban, and I am sure we could get some of the very same statements out them to justify their own behavior.
Asking for passwords and going on witch hunts in every single teacher's personal lives on a regular basis is just a step forward to the time in which we bring them out to the basketball courts and hang them during assembly for "crimes against morality".
It is well understood that you give up some of your privacy and rights on a school campus.
Only in your head. In the real world, and a supposedly free country, your rights to privacy (in your personal life) never cease to exist anywhere.
The fact she posted it from home is irrelevant. She was on campus when a supervisor asked her for her password.
Bullshit. 1,000,000% relevant. If I am at work, on corporate equipment, I have no rights to privacy as long as I am performing work in accordance with my job. That's reasonable. Once I am off the clock, at home, using my own equipment (that I paid for), nobody can claim a "right" to invade my privacy.
What if this teacher had candid photos of children on their page? Or worse.
Ohhh, Golly Gee Willickers!!!! I had not thought about that!!!
Of course, I see it now. Think of the children! I forgot about that. Let's suspend Freedom, Liberty, and all that happy crap right away to protect them....
He did not mention anything that required a microphone or camera.
I am not an expert in Java applets by any means but a quick search turned up several articles about the Java Media Framework and how to do exactly what you are asking. Granted, that may have been a recent development in the last few years and not available as long as Flash.
As far back as 2005 though I do remember running Java applets from banks that could access a TWAIN scanner locally, so it is not unreasonable to conclude it could not be made to access other hardware as well.
That being said, bananas are more fun. They are a very versatile fruit (for the passive role, just cut off the tip).
Ah, yes. Why I come to Slashdot. Deliberately misconstrued statements and advice on how to have sex with something I never actually considered possible.
Technical question.... do you need to wrap it up in duct tape to keep it from splitting (heh he banana split)?
What nobody wanted was a client side platform that was proprietary, had expensive authoring tools, and was run by Adobe, a company that clearly had no problem using FBI connections to imprison somebody over a Security through Obscurity issue and generally act like insane evil tyrants to protect their IP. It's not really that hard to figure out why a lot of people did not, and still do not like, Adobe as a company, or some of their products.
Everything you mentioned *could* have been made in a Java applet.. just a lot more painful I am sure.
Adobe had quite a bit of lock-in for so long simply because there was very little competition. Flash was killed by a move to develop websites without the need for proprietary software, a general move towards open source, and problems with bloat, stability, and security issues.
Yeah, Flash was about the only platform you could use in the past 5-10 years for a lot of stuff. Where was all the love and loyalty for Flash? I guess it never existed in the beginning and was merely a forced relationship....... Respect and loyalty is earned.
Find something new and quick. I suggest HTML5, and finding other tools to develop it in.
Adobe never wanted the death of Flash. They have gone through the 5 stages of grief already. Microsoft, in a little yellow school bus moment, ignored all the signs with their creation of Silverlight and went straight to "Fuck it. We were just kidding anyways".
There were a lot of factors that came together here and Flash simply cannot compete going forward with HTML5. Nobody really wanted a proprietary platform like Flash anyways, it was just all that was available at the time. You could stuff with Java, but that always seemed more geared towards business to me.
Adobe is moving on. While I don't like Dreamweaver (at all), and many developer friends state that the code it produces is lacking, Adobe can create some pretty nice development tools. Look forward to a pretty comprehensive HTML5 development products that you can make your games in.
P.S - It did not help that Steve Jobs refused to put them on Apple products towards the end of his life. Especially with games and content consumption. That was a bad hand dealt to Adobe that just quickened the death of Flash.
What I was saying is that 10-20 tabs is normal. I walk around in a call center and see nothing less than 10 open at any one moment, and most developers and programmers I know have about that many open as well. Add to this, quite a few programs open for programming, reference, communications, and system processes, and you start using quite a bit of memory.
The more tabs you have open, and the more inefficient the browser is at using memory, the more pronounced the difference is in memory usage. Which is why I also brought up the Remote Desktop, a.k.a Terminal Server. Having 50 employees with FF open, each with 10 tabs, it's pretty easy to open task manager and look how much memory is being used. Have the employees run Chrome for a day instead............. then check out the memory usage.
I *may* be a nerd, but my example was far from a power user. It represents the average I see people using. Don't let that stop you with the insults and unproductive comments though....
Which is why if I travel international from now on I remove my hard drives and replace them with a sanitized factory OS that only contains pictures of kittens and puppies. Anything really important can be retrieved over a VPN and then decrypted. Coming back into the US I have the hard drives removed and shipped before hand. Fuck em.
Of course that is a temporary measure and most likely useless when the DHS greatly expands its role to bus stops, truck weighing stations, interior border checkpoints, and the friendly mall nearest you.....
Eventually they will solve unemployment by making some barely educated moron, who graduated their fast track "degree in the security arts", pat me down entering and leaving my house.
Just because you have abundance does not mean you can become lazy with efficiency. If we learned anything with the economic collapse that we have had to deal with in the last few years, it is that people and corporations (not people) that operated fairly well in the good times started to get eaten alive by their own inefficiencies.
I may have 8GB in my laptop, and looking for more, but I also run a *lot* of programs at the same time while I am working. Having 10-20 tabs open at any one moment is not unusual, and even more when I am developing/debugging APIs, websites, etc. That does not include a separate browser on another screen with references open, etc.
If IE and Firefox want to be lazy buttheads and use twice the memory just because it is cheap, I can also use Chrome when I could use that gig or two of memory back for other processes.
That's just for single users. That kind of inefficiency is more evident on remote desktop environments where you have 50-100 sessions running at any one time with employees using 5-10 tabs for web portals to 20-30 SaaS vendors. When you get to that level, you will see the difference between using Chrome and IE very quickly.
The Slashdot propaganda tells us that nuclear power is safe. Perfectly safe!
Slashdot propaganda is highly questionable. I prefer to get my information from an impartial and trusted source, the Key Atomic Benefits Office Of Mankind.
I may be overweight right now, but I was not always. Unless you are a small person, or a skinny ass twig, those are small ass seats. Of course I would be willing to pay for it. If the reduced capacity by 12 seats and distributed that room out, I would pay the difference.
When I was not overweight (getting back there) my ass was not a problem. Not that it really is that much right now. My shoulders were the biggest problem along with my knees being jammed up against the seats so bad that I had problems putting the tray down. I could sit in the aisle seat and get knocked around by the carts and people, or sit in the window seat and shift my entire body up against the frame. Otherwise my armpits rested on the shoulders of the people next to me.
I use to purchase 2 seats just for my shoulders and do whatever was required to get that special seat with nobody in front of it.
For a big and tall guy with very broad shoulders flying sucks. Then there is China..... even their first class seats could not hold me. I took up an entire row laying on the side with my shoulder touching the row next to me. Those planes are for midgets.
No kidding. Employees in the field with tablets, Self service kiosks, any number of devices that need to be connected to networks, etc.
Phones are just the smallest part. Businesses right now have very few options, and most of them expensive as fuck due to some very arbitrary decisions. Most of those decisions centered around greedy bastards.
Any technology that has the possibility of adding more bandwidth and competition is welcome.
Ohh, I need all the spirituality I can get when flying.
It is what allows me the tolerance to deal with the TSA, the small ass seats, complete lack of leg room (my knees are jammed into the seat in front of me), the two fucking styrofoam peanuts they give you to eat, the cup with a half can of soda, etc.
The peanuts are absurd. Might as well individually package the peanuts. What a waste for so little. Give people the full soda can you cheap bastards.
Yeah.... I need my spirituality when flying. Otherwise I would just lose it.
That, and when some big hairy dude is grabbing my junk to make sure I am not a terrorist.....
Look, I did not like Avatar. I am not being a snob though. My question was serious. What level of sophistication is even required to dislike Avatar?
Saying it does require sophistication is snobbery. I have liked maybe 5 of Cameron's movies in total. Those were Terminators, Aliens, and True Lies (which was just goofy).
You don't have to be sophisticated to dislike a movie. That was my point.
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It's more graduated than that actually. I was just ribbing the guy in a friendly way, but there are flightless birds, birds that are true VTOL, birds that need practically no space to achieve flight, and birds that need considerable horizontal distance to achieve flight.
Hummingbirds are true VTOL. Small birds like finches can start flying straight up nearly from a perched position. Pigeons can do the same, as well as many birds like that. Once you get large enough, yes you do need some run-up time. I omitted that part. You then have flightless birds like Emus, and Ostriches.
On the whole though, I think there are more birds that require very, very little run-up time, if any, to get airborne. I don't need an understanding of physics either.. Those are direct observations for decades.
LOL. Really?
I could say the same to you about biology.
The hummingbird is true VTOL. Every other bird, unlike a plane, does not require 10+ times its length to take off for flight. I know this.... because.... I have been watching birds my whole life.
Last time I checked pigeons don't have runways. There are not other pigeons 10 feet away holding up lights like in Chicken Run helping other pigeons take off.
Perhaps extremely large birds might require some time to take off. Those are exceptions to the rule.
Do you call all birds that don't have VTOL capability non-flying birds?
Technically..... yes :)
Ostriches, Emus, Penguins, etc. fall into that category. Can you give an example of a bird without VTOL (Starts flying from a perched position) that can fly otherwise?
I don't think you just get to fuck them one time you know...
The whole virgin thing probably came about because it was vastly preferable to sloppy seconds with a camel.
Oh, yes please. Don't forget the Kardashians while you are at it.....
I know what they are.
The 9th is a blanket statement that is supposed to cover everything. Just more lawyer speak like, "Including, but not limited to", in many contracts. The 10th relates the power of the states and the restrictions on the feds.
However, the vast majority of people have no real understanding of the Constitution or those Amendments. There is a prevalent misconception in the public that any right not defined in the Constitution does not exist. Since there is not a right that specifically talks about Privacy and Anonymity (you have to do some thinking about search and seizures) some people think it does not exist at all and it is merely some consumer protection stuff that can be violated at will.
We should not have needed the 9th Amendment. I understand back then the prevailing thought was to protect people by enumerating rights, but in hindsight it was a bad idea. We should have stated that the people maintain all rights, especially those that cannot be currently articulated, and the government maintains no rights at all inherently. Starting at that point there should have been Amendments defining rights (and duties) of the government, defining federal government, interactions between states, etc.
Of course I say this precisely because of that AC poster. People like that honestly believe that there are no rights to privacy, this AC completely ignored the 4th, and that mere school administrators should have Judge Dredd like investigative powers. Then you get posts asking for citations for shit's sake.
I, of course, did not read the article.
However, I did not need to do so. There is no situation in which it is correct or lawful for the administration to demand the credentials to any online accounts held by the teacher.
If the administration had reason to believe that such actions did in fact happen, then the correct and lawful course of action would be to report it to the authorities. The co-worker that may be a victim has rights and remedies under the law.
The proper venue for this argument is a court. Just because that may be difficult for some people (especially the MAFIAA), does not mean we can bypass due process.
The first problem was that we defined our rights. What should have happened is that we defined the rights of the government to perform actions against the citizens, and that anything that was undeclared was a right of the citizens and a restriction upon government. We fucked up, and now we have to deal with it.
In any case, try looking at the 4th amendment if you want something spelled out. Privacy and anonymity is very much in the spirit of Freedom, which is what the US was founded for .
Most assuredly, not fiction in any sense of the word. If you live in the US, I suggest moving to someplace like North Korea or China. More suitable to your philosophies, I am certain.
The situation is all the more unconscionable since it does not even involve law enforcement. Those are the only people that should be able to violate your privacy to protect both you and the public, and with considerable checks, balances, oversight, and consequences when they fail.
If common sense prevails there will be a multi-million dollar judgment against the school and those administrators will be fired.
Sorry, but that last part was so ridiculous it barely deserved an answer at all.
Candid photos? Seriously? "Or Worse"? That implies there is something wrong with candid photos of children. It further implies that my own parents are evil pedophiles simply because they have a picture of me naked in the tub at 3 years old in a photo album, that could actually be picked up by a guest in the house!
It's that kind of retarded sentiment from parents that want teachers thrown in jail for reading a sci-fi book out loud, the word dinosaur removed from tests because there can be emotions associated with the "controversy" of evolution that are part of a serious problem in this country that only keeps growing.
Those people honestly believe in suspending freedoms to shove their own hysterical beliefs down our throats. That AC was no better than a member of the Taliban, and I am sure we could get some of the very same statements out them to justify their own behavior.
Asking for passwords and going on witch hunts in every single teacher's personal lives on a regular basis is just a step forward to the time in which we bring them out to the basketball courts and hang them during assembly for "crimes against morality".
I take an even better step. My Facebook password is null. No account to start with....
It is well understood that you give up some of your privacy and rights on a school campus.
Only in your head. In the real world, and a supposedly free country, your rights to privacy (in your personal life) never cease to exist anywhere.
The fact she posted it from home is irrelevant. She was on campus when a supervisor asked her for her password.
Bullshit. 1,000,000% relevant. If I am at work, on corporate equipment, I have no rights to privacy as long as I am performing work in accordance with my job. That's reasonable. Once I am off the clock, at home, using my own equipment (that I paid for), nobody can claim a "right" to invade my privacy.
What if this teacher had candid photos of children on their page? Or worse.
Ohhh, Golly Gee Willickers!!!! I had not thought about that!!!
Of course, I see it now. Think of the children! I forgot about that. Let's suspend Freedom, Liberty, and all that happy crap right away to protect them....
He did not mention anything that required a microphone or camera.
I am not an expert in Java applets by any means but a quick search turned up several articles about the Java Media Framework and how to do exactly what you are asking. Granted, that may have been a recent development in the last few years and not available as long as Flash.
As far back as 2005 though I do remember running Java applets from banks that could access a TWAIN scanner locally, so it is not unreasonable to conclude it could not be made to access other hardware as well.
That's all I have to say really.
but first take the quiz
That being said, bananas are more fun. They are a very versatile fruit (for the passive role, just cut off the tip).
Ah, yes. Why I come to Slashdot. Deliberately misconstrued statements and advice on how to have sex with something I never actually considered possible.
Technical question.... do you need to wrap it up in duct tape to keep it from splitting (heh he banana split)?
Never mind. Everything is better with duct tape.
Wow. What's with all the disguised butthurt?
What nobody wanted was a client side platform that was proprietary, had expensive authoring tools, and was run by Adobe, a company that clearly had no problem using FBI connections to imprison somebody over a Security through Obscurity issue and generally act like insane evil tyrants to protect their IP. It's not really that hard to figure out why a lot of people did not, and still do not like, Adobe as a company, or some of their products.
Everything you mentioned *could* have been made in a Java applet.. just a lot more painful I am sure.
Adobe had quite a bit of lock-in for so long simply because there was very little competition. Flash was killed by a move to develop websites without the need for proprietary software, a general move towards open source, and problems with bloat, stability, and security issues.
Yeah, Flash was about the only platform you could use in the past 5-10 years for a lot of stuff. Where was all the love and loyalty for Flash? I guess it never existed in the beginning and was merely a forced relationship....... Respect and loyalty is earned.
Find something new and quick. I suggest HTML5, and finding other tools to develop it in.
Adobe never wanted the death of Flash. They have gone through the 5 stages of grief already. Microsoft, in a little yellow school bus moment, ignored all the signs with their creation of Silverlight and went straight to "Fuck it. We were just kidding anyways".
There were a lot of factors that came together here and Flash simply cannot compete going forward with HTML5. Nobody really wanted a proprietary platform like Flash anyways, it was just all that was available at the time. You could stuff with Java, but that always seemed more geared towards business to me.
Adobe is moving on. While I don't like Dreamweaver (at all), and many developer friends state that the code it produces is lacking, Adobe can create some pretty nice development tools. Look forward to a pretty comprehensive HTML5 development products that you can make your games in.
P.S - It did not help that Steve Jobs refused to put them on Apple products towards the end of his life. Especially with games and content consumption. That was a bad hand dealt to Adobe that just quickened the death of Flash.
Haughty?
Yeah... okay....
What I was saying is that 10-20 tabs is normal. I walk around in a call center and see nothing less than 10 open at any one moment, and most developers and programmers I know have about that many open as well. Add to this, quite a few programs open for programming, reference, communications, and system processes, and you start using quite a bit of memory.
The more tabs you have open, and the more inefficient the browser is at using memory, the more pronounced the difference is in memory usage. Which is why I also brought up the Remote Desktop, a.k.a Terminal Server. Having 50 employees with FF open, each with 10 tabs, it's pretty easy to open task manager and look how much memory is being used. Have the employees run Chrome for a day instead............. then check out the memory usage.
I *may* be a nerd, but my example was far from a power user. It represents the average I see people using. Don't let that stop you with the insults and unproductive comments though....
Which is why if I travel international from now on I remove my hard drives and replace them with a sanitized factory OS that only contains pictures of kittens and puppies. Anything really important can be retrieved over a VPN and then decrypted. Coming back into the US I have the hard drives removed and shipped before hand. Fuck em.
Of course that is a temporary measure and most likely useless when the DHS greatly expands its role to bus stops, truck weighing stations, interior border checkpoints, and the friendly mall nearest you.....
Eventually they will solve unemployment by making some barely educated moron, who graduated their fast track "degree in the security arts", pat me down entering and leaving my house.
Just because you have abundance does not mean you can become lazy with efficiency. If we learned anything with the economic collapse that we have had to deal with in the last few years, it is that people and corporations (not people) that operated fairly well in the good times started to get eaten alive by their own inefficiencies.
I may have 8GB in my laptop, and looking for more, but I also run a *lot* of programs at the same time while I am working. Having 10-20 tabs open at any one moment is not unusual, and even more when I am developing/debugging APIs, websites, etc. That does not include a separate browser on another screen with references open, etc.
If IE and Firefox want to be lazy buttheads and use twice the memory just because it is cheap, I can also use Chrome when I could use that gig or two of memory back for other processes.
That's just for single users. That kind of inefficiency is more evident on remote desktop environments where you have 50-100 sessions running at any one time with employees using 5-10 tabs for web portals to 20-30 SaaS vendors. When you get to that level, you will see the difference between using Chrome and IE very quickly.
The Slashdot propaganda tells us that nuclear power is safe. Perfectly safe!
Slashdot propaganda is highly questionable. I prefer to get my information from an impartial and trusted source, the Key Atomic Benefits Office Of Mankind.
I'm waiting to see thousands of new players enter the arena in real time. Should be interesting.
I'm just waiting for one player.... me.
I may be overweight right now, but I was not always. Unless you are a small person, or a skinny ass twig, those are small ass seats. Of course I would be willing to pay for it. If the reduced capacity by 12 seats and distributed that room out, I would pay the difference.
When I was not overweight (getting back there) my ass was not a problem. Not that it really is that much right now. My shoulders were the biggest problem along with my knees being jammed up against the seats so bad that I had problems putting the tray down. I could sit in the aisle seat and get knocked around by the carts and people, or sit in the window seat and shift my entire body up against the frame. Otherwise my armpits rested on the shoulders of the people next to me.
I use to purchase 2 seats just for my shoulders and do whatever was required to get that special seat with nobody in front of it.
For a big and tall guy with very broad shoulders flying sucks. Then there is China..... even their first class seats could not hold me. I took up an entire row laying on the side with my shoulder touching the row next to me. Those planes are for midgets.
No kidding. Employees in the field with tablets, Self service kiosks, any number of devices that need to be connected to networks, etc.
Phones are just the smallest part. Businesses right now have very few options, and most of them expensive as fuck due to some very arbitrary decisions. Most of those decisions centered around greedy bastards.
Any technology that has the possibility of adding more bandwidth and competition is welcome.
Ohh, I need all the spirituality I can get when flying.
It is what allows me the tolerance to deal with the TSA, the small ass seats, complete lack of leg room (my knees are jammed into the seat in front of me), the two fucking styrofoam peanuts they give you to eat, the cup with a half can of soda, etc.
The peanuts are absurd. Might as well individually package the peanuts. What a waste for so little. Give people the full soda can you cheap bastards.
Yeah.... I need my spirituality when flying. Otherwise I would just lose it.
That, and when some big hairy dude is grabbing my junk to make sure I am not a terrorist.....
Look, I did not like Avatar. I am not being a snob though. My question was serious. What level of sophistication is even required to dislike Avatar?
Saying it does require sophistication is snobbery. I have liked maybe 5 of Cameron's movies in total. Those were Terminators, Aliens, and True Lies (which was just goofy).
You don't have to be sophisticated to dislike a movie. That was my point.
Weigh him down with a couple of steel Jar-Jar Binks statues. That way a couple hundred years from now people will know why.