i have to say that I don't understand your comment.
If he'd just said "I would enjoy setting up that system so much", you would make sense. However, he didn't.
Notice the "I wish I was criminally inclined?" That implies that he wouldn't actually enjoy it now.
Hearing about how technically incompetent the networks are does not ingratiate me to their foibles. The crying and wailing about losses, stealing, and the need for DRM and longer copyright before precious content can be risked no longer appeals to me.
They stuck a toe in the water after ceding the market to piracy for most of the net's existence. Now I hear actual talk of swimming, but they're still too scared to go for it. Forgive me if I'm not excited.
I know! It's not like they've had much time to prepare, what with ARPANET's unexpected arrival in 2001 and the advent of the web browser shortly after in 2005!
Why, I just remember back in late '07 when AOL was in its prime and nobody thought broadband would ever come into play..
Given the atrocious nature of youtube HQ's video for the bandwidth it uses, I can't see them pushing out decent video unless they simply spam the tubes with endless bandwidth like Netflix's Instant Viewing does.
I see that *everyone* is taking you seriously.
I would've, personally, picked a less ironic thread to mock someone making a (bad) joke about Microsoft's business practices..
If they were allowed to test out of working in class and spend that time on something appropriately useful (such as MIT Open Courseware), it would make a gigantic difference in their lives.
If you expect them to go home and turn on MIT Open Courseware after eight hours of drudgery and boredom have cultivated an extreme hate for learning in their minds, you're expecting too much from the average kid. "Gifted" is a misnomer - a higher IQ does not mean perfect, and other positive traits may well be lower.
No, they'll figure out how to work the tax system in such a way as to screw the rest of us.
As for social responsibility, they're not exactly going to love us much after how we treated them, will they?
What you really mean by that is "after the smart kids have had their brains horribly atrophied, they'll still be at a basic level of competence."
That doesn't make the destruction of potential any less horrible.
Agreed. Emusic, Magnatune, NIN are great. Radiohead's publicity stunt, not so much useful.
My "death" remark could be better worded thus: If a few % of users causing minimal actual damage by abusing a service is license for widespread restriction and limitation backed by the hefty penalties (inc. jail) carried by the DMCA - where do you go from there when the offense is much weightier? It seems to be "your head for a loaf of bread" territory. Rereading, though, I catch that your original remark played it more as an example of bad behavior then sole justification.
I'm fine with companies trying to sell me whatever locked-up products they wish. But not if they'll jail me when I try to break said lock.
"One guy abuses a service (one which the content producers actually get a cut of.) Therefore, restrictions on legal behavior are deserved."
Do you honestly think it's only ONE person here that is ripping netflix movies? You sound a little naive.
also, the only reason DRM exists is because of the the popularity of pirate sites..not the other way around. Netflix is very popular. A few of their customers are abusive, which means they don't bring in significant income after mailing costs. Few people have the hard drive space (and will) to reach even this level. You're using an insignificant group to justify insane policy. I have to wonder what your proposed response to massive, proven damage from copyright infringement is: an example would be commercial violation of the GPL. Death?
re: your second point:
Not at all. Given a song, I can think up many uses (any and all devices, turn it into a ringtone, etcetera). The media studios were rather ravenously awaiting their new "digital age" of unending small fees. Combine the insane level of control possible with digital technology, a law saying you can't break that control, and a copyright not intended to function alongside either - you get quite a mess.
Agreed. I was intending to establish very rational reasons for the "hoarding" behavior SpinyNorman mentioned (though quite illegal, and expensive to Netflix through mailing fees).
You honestly think if people like him didn't exist you'd have more content on your Roku? The media industry does not and has not ever made any concession they didn't have to. Not to encourage law-breaking, but piracy has forced their hand in offering better solutions to compete with it.
I bet you raise as much fuss about the phrase 'identity theft', don't you? Because identity theft and copyright infringement are exactly the same. Why, I'm sure that there's a moral stigma associated with building off the work of other artists just as strong as that of pretending to be someone you're not and taking all their money.
Man, we need to go to the Library of Congress and apply modern copyright laws to all the materials involved, checking to make sure that Shakespeare didn't infringe anything. And those ancient greeks were incorrigible. Thieves, every one of them!
More importantly, OLPC should be putting software into the hands of these kids, not just a license to use a copy of some software owned by someone else.
Do you think it really matters to the underprivileged kids in Africa whether their software is free as in speech or free as in beer or just a license to use?
Its sad that people like you are using those kids as an opportunity to push you political/religious beliefs.
If I didn't, I wouldn't have those beliefs about software in the first place.
Funny.
My EIGHT YEAR OLD computer came with a pentium 4 2.8GHz, 1GB or RAM, Radeon 9800 Pro, and today, with nothing more than a RAM upgrade to 2GB, runs Vista Ultimate perfectly fine, including the "bells and whistles" like AERO.
Just because someone makes an uninformed or poor decision, doesn't mean everyone else does. The R300 series was released on '02, and the 9800 Pro would've been ultra-high end then. In fact, a computer built today to the same cost would probably be a Skulltrail eight-core maniac.
That's not a consumer machine by any metric.
Much of the historical technically minded development community has predicted the ascendancy of open source software for some time now.
Like most analysts, Gartner has not generally agreed. Now they appear to be changing their tune.
I would expect a sardonic laugh from said community.
And while I'll tough it out (to my extreme dismay) and learn Linux and other free systems, truthfully, I just don't like them. Simply because most of the time they have a "programmer's" feel to them and not a "user's" feel. On a postiive note though, going back to the Ubuntu OS, I do see promise and potential, and I don't say that lightly. That's really too bad. From my perspective, almost every failure of the open source world can be somehow traced to Microsoft (though my personal-responsibility outlook demands just as much blame on developers for not persevering)..
But since I haven't published any code myself, I can't blame them.
Really, though, I'd like to hear what you find so painful about the newest versions of Ubuntu. For me, search functions were always a problem (they would never work right).
Why was this modded down? It looks like a highly informative and relevant comment..
That worries me, especially in light of the article. I don't have mod points ATM, so I can't bring it back up.
Good call. Zero Punctuation is only highly offensive when not compared to teenage boys.
Not to mention the fact that it holds so much value in holding viewpoints that are often so contrary. May lead him to think about (in some offset way) the importance of things like market culture, peer pressure, groupthink, and a trained lust for popular items - all the things zeropunctuation disparages when it ravages popular (yet terrible) games.
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i have to say that I don't understand your comment. If he'd just said "I would enjoy setting up that system so much", you would make sense. However, he didn't. Notice the "I wish I was criminally inclined?" That implies that he wouldn't actually enjoy it now.
Hearing about how technically incompetent the networks are does not ingratiate me to their foibles. The crying and wailing about losses, stealing, and the need for DRM and longer copyright before precious content can be risked no longer appeals to me. They stuck a toe in the water after ceding the market to piracy for most of the net's existence. Now I hear actual talk of swimming, but they're still too scared to go for it. Forgive me if I'm not excited.
I know! It's not like they've had much time to prepare, what with ARPANET's unexpected arrival in 2001 and the advent of the web browser shortly after in 2005! Why, I just remember back in late '07 when AOL was in its prime and nobody thought broadband would ever come into play..
Given the atrocious nature of youtube HQ's video for the bandwidth it uses, I can't see them pushing out decent video unless they simply spam the tubes with endless bandwidth like Netflix's Instant Viewing does.
I see that *everyone* is taking you seriously. I would've, personally, picked a less ironic thread to mock someone making a (bad) joke about Microsoft's business practices..
I've never met someone who originally owned an Amiga who still believes Microsoft advanced computing more then they hurt it.
If they were allowed to test out of working in class and spend that time on something appropriately useful (such as MIT Open Courseware), it would make a gigantic difference in their lives. If you expect them to go home and turn on MIT Open Courseware after eight hours of drudgery and boredom have cultivated an extreme hate for learning in their minds, you're expecting too much from the average kid. "Gifted" is a misnomer - a higher IQ does not mean perfect, and other positive traits may well be lower.
No, they'll figure out how to work the tax system in such a way as to screw the rest of us. As for social responsibility, they're not exactly going to love us much after how we treated them, will they?
What you really mean by that is "after the smart kids have had their brains horribly atrophied, they'll still be at a basic level of competence." That doesn't make the destruction of potential any less horrible.
Agreed. Emusic, Magnatune, NIN are great. Radiohead's publicity stunt, not so much useful. My "death" remark could be better worded thus: If a few % of users causing minimal actual damage by abusing a service is license for widespread restriction and limitation backed by the hefty penalties (inc. jail) carried by the DMCA - where do you go from there when the offense is much weightier? It seems to be "your head for a loaf of bread" territory. Rereading, though, I catch that your original remark played it more as an example of bad behavior then sole justification. I'm fine with companies trying to sell me whatever locked-up products they wish. But not if they'll jail me when I try to break said lock.
Agreed. I was intending to establish very rational reasons for the "hoarding" behavior SpinyNorman mentioned (though quite illegal, and expensive to Netflix through mailing fees).
One guy abuses a service (one which the content producers actually get a cut of.) Therefore, restrictions on legal behavior are deserved.
There's always the people who leave a movie sitting in their house for months until they're ready to watch it.
You honestly think if people like him didn't exist you'd have more content on your Roku? The media industry does not and has not ever made any concession they didn't have to. Not to encourage law-breaking, but piracy has forced their hand in offering better solutions to compete with it.
This would have been the single greatest event of the entire Star Wars Saga.
That may be your idea of copyright, but it doesn't apply to all countries. The Supreme Court (and Constitution) of the US have different ideas.
Do you think it really matters to the underprivileged kids in Africa whether their software is free as in speech or free as in beer or just a license to use?
Its sad that people like you are using those kids as an opportunity to push you political/religious beliefs.
If I didn't, I wouldn't have those beliefs about software in the first place.Much of the historical technically minded development community has predicted the ascendancy of open source software for some time now. Like most analysts, Gartner has not generally agreed. Now they appear to be changing their tune. I would expect a sardonic laugh from said community.
Why was this modded down? It looks like a highly informative and relevant comment.. That worries me, especially in light of the article. I don't have mod points ATM, so I can't bring it back up.
Good call. Zero Punctuation is only highly offensive when not compared to teenage boys. Not to mention the fact that it holds so much value in holding viewpoints that are often so contrary. May lead him to think about (in some offset way) the importance of things like market culture, peer pressure, groupthink, and a trained lust for popular items - all the things zeropunctuation disparages when it ravages popular (yet terrible) games.
Don't fret too much. Once you convert the timescale from "corporate upgrade period" to our standard clock system, it's really been less then a week.