Electrics dont get a mpg equivelant rating. You need to factor in where you live. Tesla S gets around 30 mpge here because everything is coal and natural gas with a little bit of nuclear and a sprinkle of renewables.
Usually the charge time is 30-60 because people have range anxiety and only use half the battery or less. I doubt many owners have the balls to roll in their garage at 5%.
Lol. Yes and I can make one million dollars on a 1 dollar investment in five minutes by buying a stock in 2 minutes then selling it in 3 one hundred years later. Nice analogy.
To put that in perspective the coal china burns for electrical power is mined and shipped half way around the world. Same with the gas used in turbines for electricity.
No an induction motor needs to run currents on both the stator and rotor sides while a dc brushless only on the rotor. They are more complicated and expansive in terms of electronics and control. look here for actual equations. You get 50% efficiency at half your no load speed and if you big it down even more it's less. You can play with how you excite the windings but the core issue is still there.
How about the energy required to strip mine coal, transport it (sometimes half way around the world), gasify it, burn it, use internal combustion to change it to electricity, step up the voltage, transport the electricity across the grid, step it back down, power the charger used to charge the battery, the losses that occur charging the battery, then the losses the internal resistance and leakage currents of the battery produce then the losses in the inverter/moror drive circuits? electrics pollute more than efficient gas for 80% of the worlds population
Saying Siri is a strong AI. Further saying it is a clone of 'you' is like taking some scraps from around your house, your old email account and that Facebook profile, stapling it together, using systems MD and calling it you.
With the timeframe and technical aspects of the project I'm guessing its either a pyramid scam or the best pitch for a survivor sequel ever. Only without the happy outcome of the original series.
The problem is the anode and cathode get degraded in aluminum air batteries. You can't just recycle the aluminum by fueling it like gasoline or an oil change. You would need to double the battery pack size/weight to keep the same horsepower as a lithium battery - since batteries are already bulky and heavy its prohibitive and has only been used on a few prototypes.
Even with those electric car problems they tend to pollute less in some cases over efficient fossil fuel cars. But you are trying to talk sense to a fanboy. It's like saying vaccines dont cause autism to antivaxers. They want to feel good and any thinking disrupts that gets ignored.
nope electrics pollute a lot more. But then again don't believe a electric enviornmental fanboy site with good references, believe they hype. Good thing global warming isn't fueled directly by hot air...
nope electrics pollute more. But then again don't believe an electric car fanboy site with references, chose to disbelieve in facts and science instead.
It ruined mine and I was very careful. I've had two friends who have required surgery from running. The studies I've seen on the internet compare runners typically to people who do not excercise and are likely overweight. So yes maybe it's true then. Compare the knees of cyclists, swimmers, etc... To those of runners and you can see it wears on them badly. Cartilage does not repair itself and heavy repeated impacts wear it out way faster than lower more constant pressure.
Actually in the highly unlikely event you are trapped in an electric car in extreme cold you have way less available heat. The one thing gas vehicles are great at is heating things up.
There is a fine line between humor and troll. I'm not sure who thinks a 500hp 4800 lb sports car is good for the enviornment even if electric. Electrics get 35mpg or so where I live, they don't do much green anything for many people. That said it is a nice sports car, and we all know why many older men buy them.
Actually electric motors tend to be inefficient when providing high torques at low speeds. Very fancy induction motors like on the tesla can be a bit better but require a much more expensive controller and typically are less efficient than say brushless DC technology at light loads like freeway driving. Most electrics use brushless motors and get about 50% efficiency at peak power.
But that doesn't mean that electric cars pollute more, it means that the U.S.A. has crappy means of generating electricity.
Hiding or disbelieving in entropy/tailpipe location is irrelevant. Electrics pollute quite a bit and the enviornment responds to reality not fanboy pipe dreams. You could run solar powered biofuel in a diesel it dosent mean people who run regular diesel get that benefit.
Sadly though diesels pollute less than electrics (CO2 wise) for at least half of America and 80% of the worlds population, they don't get the attention and subsidy needed to reduce global emissions now. Electrics will be the go to best choice for pollution in all major markets only 20-50 years out from now. Probably 35 or so I am guessing.
I would love to live in a world where a 500hp electric car is 20k usd equiveant and isn't powered by coal power. Unfortunately I think that's probably 50 years out for me.
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Electrics dont get a mpg equivelant rating. You need to factor in where you live. Tesla S gets around 30 mpge here because everything is coal and natural gas with a little bit of nuclear and a sprinkle of renewables.
Usually the charge time is 30-60 because people have range anxiety and only use half the battery or less. I doubt many owners have the balls to roll in their garage at 5%.
Lol. Yes and I can make one million dollars on a 1 dollar investment in five minutes by buying a stock in 2 minutes then selling it in 3 one hundred years later. Nice analogy.
To put that in perspective the coal china burns for electrical power is mined and shipped half way around the world. Same with the gas used in turbines for electricity.
No an induction motor needs to run currents on both the stator and rotor sides while a dc brushless only on the rotor. They are more complicated and expansive in terms of electronics and control. look here for actual equations. You get 50% efficiency at half your no load speed and if you big it down even more it's less. You can play with how you excite the windings but the core issue is still there.
Source? It not only takes in wheel to wheel it takes in the differences in manufacturing the vehicle over the life of the vehicle.
Sure compare a mileage efficient desist to a standard gass guzzler SUV and you are right. Most of the world including the USA fares poorly compared to efficent gas and diesel. In fact half the USA does worse with electrics than efficient diesels while the majority of china is worse and nearly all of India.
How about the energy required to strip mine coal, transport it (sometimes half way around the world), gasify it, burn it, use internal combustion to change it to electricity, step up the voltage, transport the electricity across the grid, step it back down, power the charger used to charge the battery, the losses that occur charging the battery, then the losses the internal resistance and leakage currents of the battery produce then the losses in the inverter/moror drive circuits? electrics pollute more than efficient gas for 80% of the worlds population
Saying Siri is a strong AI. Further saying it is a clone of 'you' is like taking some scraps from around your house, your old email account and that Facebook profile, stapling it together, using systems MD and calling it you.
Sadly my humor failed once again. I expect it wouldn't make it past the pilot episode due to a lack of 'survivors'.
With the timeframe and technical aspects of the project I'm guessing its either a pyramid scam or the best pitch for a survivor sequel ever. Only without the happy outcome of the original series.
how about this electric fanboy site with references?
The problem is the anode and cathode get degraded in aluminum air batteries. You can't just recycle the aluminum by fueling it like gasoline or an oil change. You would need to double the battery pack size/weight to keep the same horsepower as a lithium battery - since batteries are already bulky and heavy its prohibitive and has only been used on a few prototypes.
Even with those electric car problems they tend to pollute less in some cases over efficient fossil fuel cars. But you are trying to talk sense to a fanboy. It's like saying vaccines dont cause autism to antivaxers. They want to feel good and any thinking disrupts that gets ignored.
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nope electrics pollute a lot more. But then again don't believe a electric enviornmental fanboy site with good references, believe they hype. Good thing global warming isn't fueled directly by hot air...
nope electrics pollute more. But then again don't believe an electric car fanboy site with references, chose to disbelieve in facts and science instead.
It ruined mine and I was very careful. I've had two friends who have required surgery from running. The studies I've seen on the internet compare runners typically to people who do not excercise and are likely overweight. So yes maybe it's true then. Compare the knees of cyclists, swimmers, etc... To those of runners and you can see it wears on them badly. Cartilage does not repair itself and heavy repeated impacts wear it out way faster than lower more constant pressure.
Actually in the highly unlikely event you are trapped in an electric car in extreme cold you have way less available heat. The one thing gas vehicles are great at is heating things up.
There is a fine line between humor and troll. I'm not sure who thinks a 500hp 4800 lb sports car is good for the enviornment even if electric. Electrics get 35mpg or so where I live, they don't do much green anything for many people. That said it is a nice sports car, and we all know why many older men buy them.
Tesla at a super charger still take 30-60 minutes not 1-3 like gas.
Actually electric motors tend to be inefficient when providing high torques at low speeds. Very fancy induction motors like on the tesla can be a bit better but require a much more expensive controller and typically are less efficient than say brushless DC technology at light loads like freeway driving. Most electrics use brushless motors and get about 50% efficiency at peak power.
But that doesn't mean that electric cars pollute more, it means that the U.S.A. has crappy means of generating electricity.
Hiding or disbelieving in entropy/tailpipe location is irrelevant. Electrics pollute quite a bit and the enviornment responds to reality not fanboy pipe dreams. You could run solar powered biofuel in a diesel it dosent mean people who run regular diesel get that benefit.
Sadly though diesels pollute less than electrics (CO2 wise) for at least half of America and 80% of the worlds population, they don't get the attention and subsidy needed to reduce global emissions now. Electrics will be the go to best choice for pollution in all major markets only 20-50 years out from now. Probably 35 or so I am guessing.
I would love to live in a world where a 500hp electric car is 20k usd equiveant and isn't powered by coal power. Unfortunately I think that's probably 50 years out for me.