Folks have to take into account is that writers of the good bood didn't have as many concepts to work with as we modern readers. Hell, the ancient Hebrews didn't even have vowels! Or numbers above 40.
So when they needed to explain something, they worked with the concepts and language constructs that existed at the time. If you pick up any decent translation of the Bible, you will see a pile of linguistic footnotes at the bottom of every page. Many words back then meant two or three things at once, so the English edition contains what the translator believes to be the right english word based on the context.
Science through the ages has also changed. The descriptions grew more complex as the vocabulary of mathematics expanded from simple arithmetic, to geometry, to algebra, to calculis, to tensor notation and beyond.
Religion may claim to be the truth, but it is always fuzzy about the details. 90% of what evangelicals espouse as "belief" is not supported by the Good Book.
Take temperence (i.e. total abstinence from alchohol). What was Christ's first miracle? Wedding of Cana anyone, turning water into wine. What did Christ serve at the last supper? That would be wine.
In other respects the "devout" put concrete meaning into an abstract reference. Just watch various sects argue about whether the Lord's prayer should ask God to forgive us our "debts", "transgressions", or "trespasses."
On the other hand, some of the most vociferous proponents of "Science" also put extra words into theories. Take evolution. All theories about it simply note the mechanism. It doesn't ascribe a purpose. Science never talks of purpose or intent. (The only science that does, psychology, isn't REALLY a science depending on who you ask.)
In a more enlightened age we would realize the Science and Religion compliment one another. Then again, in a more enlightened age the three religions that developed from the teachings of Moses and Abraham wouldn't be taking pot shots at each other with automatic weapons and car bombs.
Yes, there are ballistics involved, but Missile technology is a helluva a lot more complicated because you are accellerating a mass that is constantly shrinking through an atmosphere that is constantly thinning to a speed that is so fast that the "bullet" enters a state of perpetually falling.
New branches of mathematics and numerical analysis have been fleshed out just to describe the problem properly. You know all those Differential equations you High School math teacher told you were impossible to solve. Well, that's not true. And while I'm at it, electrical engineers regularly work with sqrt(-1).
Saying a missile is just a guided long range bullet is like saying biology is just chemistry on a nanotech level.
Yes, but PC's and Jet aircraft solved problems everyday people had.
I can't think of the last time I, or anyone in my family, have needed to get into LEO.
In fact, after 50 years neither the Soviets nor NASA have been able to come up with a "Killer Application" for space. There are some nifty pure science items for sure, but nothing that is going to make Joe Sixpack want to be there or buy something from there.
You gotta think, nobody bothered with the Americas until there was money involved. Well, except for those escaping persecution and were willing to live out in the wilderness to get away from it.
Space will be "Conquered" only after someone figures out how to make money off of it, or after the technology is sufficiently advanced for some cult to create a sustainable community away from us unwashed masses.
Don't forget about the cryogenic pumps to pull the LOX from the tank, the cryogenic piping to get the super-cold liquid between the tanks and your engine, and finally all the added joy of working with a material that goes from -400F to +1500F in the space of a few microseconds as it combusts.
You go from a project that could be accomplished by a decent mechanical engineer and you turn it into rocket science.
There is a definite problem to be solved. Packet A of type N needs to get to point B. What route to take? Yea gods man, just because you simply pass your traffic to the "default gateway" doesn't mean that there isn't any logic going on up stream.
The description for our setup is a sequence of 396 rules, chained in ladder logic. Place one directive out of place, and you are routing to nowhere. Or worse. Nowhere can route to you. It's about as complex and unforgiving as any programming I've had to do.
And it's certainly a bit more useful than any "Hello World" test you can throw at me.
Exceptof course that SPAM doesn't chew up a whole lot of bandwidth. You can fit a lot of pink stuff in a 1MB link. Spammers have been known to make a pain in the ass out of themselves with a dial up line.
Intersteller space is a giant unknown. We still can't account for a large portion of the Universe's mass (depending on which comsmolgical model you follow.)
Interstellar space is also teeming with leftovers from the formation of this chunk of the Universe. We are also still trying to track down another mass that is screwing up our calculations for the orbit of the outer planets. One of these probes might actually be able to give us a better measurement of it.
Just because it's black and cold does not a boring place make.
If not, there is Cisco's IOS which I don't use anymore.
Most of my day to day routing is done of a Linux box. I use TCL scripts to handle repetitive arguments to the kernel's IPTABLES system. We do some pretty rocket science stuff, maintaining a link to both Internet 1 and Internet 2 at the same time, and making it transparent to our internal users which is which.
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Dear god I had them put me out to be reanimated just so I wouldn't have to live through it. I realize 30,000 years sounds like a long time to you mortals, But it's longer than that, When all you see is the inside of the same ship talking to the same people, you get REALLY REALLY bored. Think sitting in the Doctor's waiting room while they loop "Row Row Row your Boat" and they only have one copy of Highlights.
And no sooner do I get here, and you people have puked the place up so bad I'm ready to do it again. And that should tell you something.
I'm a computer professional. A router programming, server building, cable splicing, code hacking computer professional if you care at all. In college I used to build embedded systems and I've have more than my fair share or processor architecture courses.
When I go home, I just want to turn the damn machine on and have it do what I need it to do. And that machine is an iBook. I know it has a G4 processor running a 1Ghz, the memory bus, and most of the I/O architecture. My next desktop is going to be a Mac, because my wife, a professional computer teacher who specializes in Windows, feels the same way.
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Folks have to take into account is that writers of the good bood didn't have as many concepts to work with as we modern readers. Hell, the ancient Hebrews didn't even have vowels! Or numbers above 40.
So when they needed to explain something, they worked with the concepts and language constructs that existed at the time. If you pick up any decent translation of the Bible, you will see a pile of linguistic footnotes at the bottom of every page. Many words back then meant two or three things at once, so the English edition contains what the translator believes to be the right english word based on the context.
Science through the ages has also changed. The descriptions grew more complex as the vocabulary of mathematics expanded from simple arithmetic, to geometry, to algebra, to calculis, to tensor notation and beyond.
My $0.02
Religion may claim to be the truth, but it is always fuzzy about the details. 90% of what evangelicals espouse as "belief" is not supported by the Good Book.
Take temperence (i.e. total abstinence from alchohol). What was Christ's first miracle? Wedding of Cana anyone, turning water into wine. What did Christ serve at the last supper? That would be wine.
In other respects the "devout" put concrete meaning into an abstract reference. Just watch various sects argue about whether the Lord's prayer should ask God to forgive us our "debts", "transgressions", or "trespasses."
On the other hand, some of the most vociferous proponents of "Science" also put extra words into theories. Take evolution. All theories about it simply note the mechanism. It doesn't ascribe a purpose. Science never talks of purpose or intent. (The only science that does, psychology, isn't REALLY a science depending on who you ask.)
In a more enlightened age we would realize the Science and Religion compliment one another. Then again, in a more enlightened age the three religions that developed from the teachings of Moses and Abraham wouldn't be taking pot shots at each other with automatic weapons and car bombs.
Lucas failed to integrate the various story components together. He forgot to add the constant.
Hey, I'm still using textedit you insensitive clod!
Yes, there are ballistics involved, but Missile technology is a helluva a lot more complicated because you are accellerating a mass that is constantly shrinking through an atmosphere that is constantly thinning to a speed that is so fast that the "bullet" enters a state of perpetually falling.
New branches of mathematics and numerical analysis have been fleshed out just to describe the problem properly. You know all those Differential equations you High School math teacher told you were impossible to solve. Well, that's not true. And while I'm at it, electrical engineers regularly work with sqrt(-1).
Saying a missile is just a guided long range bullet is like saying biology is just chemistry on a nanotech level.
I can't think of the last time I, or anyone in my family, have needed to get into LEO.
In fact, after 50 years neither the Soviets nor NASA have been able to come up with a "Killer Application" for space. There are some nifty pure science items for sure, but nothing that is going to make Joe Sixpack want to be there or buy something from there.
You gotta think, nobody bothered with the Americas until there was money involved. Well, except for those escaping persecution and were willing to live out in the wilderness to get away from it.
Space will be "Conquered" only after someone figures out how to make money off of it, or after the technology is sufficiently advanced for some cult to create a sustainable community away from us unwashed masses.
You go from a project that could be accomplished by a decent mechanical engineer and you turn it into rocket science.
Passengers who were later smeared along the Texas coast also purchased...
Not having to go with cryogenic fuels makes all of the propulsion engineering easier, not to mention fuel storage and tanking.
If you work with LOX on a day to day basis, my hat is off to you. Otherwise let me summarize: it is a giant pain in the ass.
unless you pay me one BILLION dollars. Muhahahahahaha
Nuclear batteries never got out of the Beta particle stage.
and "The Collective's Documents"
There is a definite problem to be solved. Packet A of type N needs to get to point B. What route to take? Yea gods man, just because you simply pass your traffic to the "default gateway" doesn't mean that there isn't any logic going on up stream.
The description for our setup is a sequence of 396 rules, chained in ladder logic. Place one directive out of place, and you are routing to nowhere. Or worse. Nowhere can route to you. It's about as complex and unforgiving as any programming I've had to do.
And it's certainly a bit more useful than any "Hello World" test you can throw at me.
I do this for a living. You don't cap the bandwidth. You cap the number of emails.
Seriously, I run an ISP out of my basement. It's not that hard. You just have to pay a bit more.
I can't stand the "I want everything, and I want it now, and I want it cheap, and I want it no questions asked" crowd.
Exceptof course that SPAM doesn't chew up a whole lot of bandwidth. You can fit a lot of pink stuff in a 1MB link. Spammers have been known to make a pain in the ass out of themselves with a dial up line.
Intersteller space is a giant unknown. We still can't account for a large portion of the Universe's mass (depending on which comsmolgical model you follow.)
Interstellar space is also teeming with leftovers from the formation of this chunk of the Universe. We are also still trying to track down another mass that is screwing up our calculations for the orbit of the outer planets. One of these probes might actually be able to give us a better measurement of it.
Just because it's black and cold does not a boring place make.
The plural of Datum is Fact.
If not, there is Cisco's IOS which I don't use anymore.
Most of my day to day routing is done of a Linux box. I use TCL scripts to handle repetitive arguments to the kernel's IPTABLES system. We do some pretty rocket science stuff, maintaining a link to both Internet 1 and Internet 2 at the same time, and making it transparent to our internal users which is which.
Dear god I had them put me out to be reanimated just so I wouldn't have to live through it. I realize 30,000 years sounds like a long time to you mortals, But it's longer than that, When all you see is the inside of the same ship talking to the same people, you get REALLY REALLY bored. Think sitting in the Doctor's waiting room while they loop "Row Row Row your Boat" and they only have one copy of Highlights.
And no sooner do I get here, and you people have puked the place up so bad I'm ready to do it again. And that should tell you something.
Ron stole Meggie's heart away.
And I go Sidney's leg.
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Must be why I use them at work too.
We have a girl.
I'm a computer professional. A router programming, server building, cable splicing, code hacking computer professional if you care at all. In college I used to build embedded systems and I've have more than my fair share or processor architecture courses.
When I go home, I just want to turn the damn machine on and have it do what I need it to do. And that machine is an iBook. I know it has a G4 processor running a 1Ghz, the memory bus, and most of the I/O architecture. My next desktop is going to be a Mac, because my wife, a professional computer teacher who specializes in Windows, feels the same way.
Ack what was I getting at. Ignore my previous post.