Geez. The OpenGroup is the owner of the UNIX Trademark. They get to decide what is and what isn't UNIX. The certification cost + testsuite decides that. If you can't pay or can't pass or both, you aren't Unix, exactly the situation which Linux is in and you can't call yourself UNIX. You'd think after numerous posts on this very subject people would know a thing or two about it now.
Everything I just said I already said, either you're trolling for attention or you're really clueless.
You missed the point! CNet and PC World seems to be very much just reproducing Microsoft's marketing material, just like they did when Vista came out.
Are you even surprised by that ? CNet and PC World are the biggest Microsoft shills of them all. They've been doing this since the beginning of times.
I'll say it again, pre-release Hype of a new Windows release is always like this. Windows 95 Betas, RCs, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows XP... always the same story : "Best ever release of Windows yet! Stable! Fast!". Then reality hits and everyone finds out the new release is more bloated than the last. A few useful features were added, some useful features were changed into unusefulness and generally people start to say they miss the old version. Some go back. A few years later, when hardware specs have changed enough, the new release is ailed as the best Windows ever, the next one won't be as good, then the pre-release hype begins, and there we go again.
I know the Microsofties on here don't like to hear it but that's how it is. Every. Time. Windows XP was ridiculed on release, it was called bloated, heavy and fisher pricey. People stuck with Windows 2000 for productivity and with Windows 98 for gaming. Now you'd be hard pressed to find anyone would doesn't just love Windows XP, "it's the bestest evAr!".
Uh, it's easy, you're a Monopoly when you pull crap like that, and your customers actually go along with it, because it would be suicide for them not to. Imagine for a second, Microsoft saying to Dell : "You sell a Windows license with every PC/server you ship and you never sell pre-load another OS or we revoke your right to sell Windows at all". Dell then shows them the finger. Would Dell still be in business 2 months later selling PCs running Ubuntu ?
What was wrong about what he said ? OS X is a Unix variant, certified as UNIX 03 (since 10.5). Yes, it is built on a Mach kernel and uses BSD userland tools. But you know what, your facts and his facts weren't contradictions.
I don't know how you got Insightful. The OpenGroup, in the process of certifying something as Unix compliant and thus be able to use the Unix trademark, issues a testsuite which must compile and run successfully. One part of this test suite is POSIX compliance. Linux wouldn't pass this. As such, it would never be able to use the Trademark. So no, you are wrong, they aren't distinct at all, they are very related.
Linux is not Unix. It's a close approximation. For one, the base APIs are not fully POSIX compliant. Right there is a big hurdle to being Unix. If someone were to pony up the cash for certification (RedHat, Novell, Cannonical), there are issues yet to be fixed before it can be called UNIX, so it's not just a question of certifying it.
In the real world and for anti-trust legislation, you aren't required to have 100% market share to have a monopoly. The fact is, Microsoft were found to have one, and they aren't in a much different position now, as far as Windows installed based goes.
Call it naivete, and I'll just call you a conspiracy nut. I discuss facts, not fiction. Until someone comes forward with proof that they cache NXDOMAIN responses longer than they should, then it's not worth starting foaming at the mouth about it.
Also, let's be clear, in no way am I advocating that what they are doing is right. It's a blatent violation of the spec and I am against that, I was just explaining to the OP that NXDOMAIN aren't cached forever and as such, he wouldn't lose traffic that he would have had anyway with his hypothetical scenario.
ECUs don't have DRM on them, stop being ridiculous. You can reflash the base maps on a stock ECU for most cars with no problems (cars people bothered to reverse engineer). Where it becomes illegal is not because of the DMCA, but because of emission laws. Basically, modifying exhaust and injection systems will usually result in higher emissions. Replacement ECUs are listed as offroad only because they are usually installed in cars that do not pass emissions anymore. This is especially true of California (a lot of engine modifications are 49 states legal... guess why.)
I doubt very much that it was a roadblock in the first place. You have a lot of to do before drugs, especially harder drugs become legal for general consumption like Alcohol is. One of those being to convince all the "Think of the children" people like MADD to step back on some of their issues.
How did this ever get +5 ? Seriously, if you register a non-existant domain, they won't hi-jack you. First, there's this thing called TTL on requests, when a DNS server caches a response from an authoritative source, it is not permanent. It has a Time to Live, defined in the Start of Authority in the zone on the master server or on the entry itself. So after a while, the DNS server will query the authoritative source again to make sure its answer is still correct and up to date.
This is also implemented for NXDOMAIN queries, as defined in RFC2308. Section 3 is specific that NXDOMAIN queries should also return the SOA and that the receiving cache is to use the minimum TTL (the last value in the SOA). The default on this is 3600 seconds, or you guessed it, 1 hour. Since your domain will take 24-48 hours to show up on the ccTLDs or gTLDs anyhow, 1 hour isn't going to make or break anything as far as caching a NXDOMAIN answer and anyway, you wouldn't have gotten that traffic to begin with.
Instead of expecting the answer in the summary or article, you could, you know, look it up. That's if you have access to the Internet or something, I hear there's lots of information on that network.
Uh ? You can upgrade IOS using the bootstrap program to load a new version from TFTP. It couldn't be easier to install a new OS unto a Cisco router/switch. Perhaps you mean that no one makes a general purpose OS for these devices ? No, because why would I want to run Linux when IOS does the job 10x better. For smaller Linksys based routers, you can change out VxWorks for Linux using things like dd-wrt or OpenWRT or Tomate. Again, it's changeable. The guy who said you need a HD is a dumb ass, and frankly, you're not much better.
You obviously need to look up the definition of Socialism. Dictatorship and Authoritarism are not necessarily Socialism. Maybe you need to read 1984 again because until you do, your sig makes you look like an idiot.
Coming in the future ? It's already been done, and it's going to keep being done. This is nothing new and short of not buying games with ads or product placement, good luck getting rid of it.
Or they do a differed search for the licensed words and apply the royalties after the fact. Why would they need to find the article in real time ? They can just batch up requests and process them when there's less requests or on another system completely.
Sounds like your typical University student job then. Happy pappy ? The fact is, if you're doing Professional Computer Support at the University level, you will have package management, standardized purchasing contracts and better things to do with your time then manually install each Windows.
Unattended installs on standardized hardware with some package management for customization will turn a 3 hour sitting in front of the computer into 5 minutes pushing buttons and 3 hours with the computer installing itself. We have a moderate sized organisation (22,000 employees) and guess what, nothing is done by hand and no 2 PCs have exactly the same software on them (different needs for different departments).
That's the difference between people that know what they are doing, and high school summer jobs. Your boss would probably greatly benefit from you putting in place these measures, even though it might mean you'd be out of work at the end of the day.
(PS: The Preview window is stripping all line-breaks from my comment. Hopefully the posted comment is more readable than what I'm seeing. Using Opera 9.64, Win XP Pro SP2)
(PS: You're using HTML Formatted instead of Plain old text. In HTML, line breaks are just whitespace and as such ignored. You need to use the <br> tag in order to perform line breaks. Your browser and OS have nothing to do with it)
Notepad, Calc and Solitaire don't provide a level of control over other technologies and don't promote vendor lock-in if they are dominant, like Internet Explorer or Media Player does (patent encumbered, undocumented media formats that lock you to Windows to listen to music, watch movies). That is why no one gives a rats ass about them and it was pretty obvious to a normal person who understands these issues. I guess you're "special".
Makes it sound like "if(Opera)" to me if every other browser was working. Especially since Opera was one of the first browsers to have Agent spoofing and you could make everything work by spoofing as Internet Explorer.
No, everyone rewriting history and trying to say what happened didn't actually happen is a shill. Guess why ? Because it benefits their employer to say things like "Internet Explorer dominated based on merit, it is the best browser" or "Windows isn't a Monopoly at all, people have choice and they choose Windows" or "OEMs never were forced into bundling Windows, they gave the consumer what he wants"... Etc... Etc...
I don't care if you personally like Internet Explorer and want to discuss its merits while not ignoring that it was shoved down everyone's throat, that Microsoft were convicted for it, twice, and that it resulted in a stunted growth for Web Technologies as Microsoft dominated and tried to extend and extinguish it. If you do admit to what actually happened but still like Internet Explorer, I won't call you a shill.
Lots of computers that are different ? So you're saying you're a "Computer support professionnal" in a retail environnement, working on people's PCs and either building systems for a mom and pop shop or doing the Geek Squad thing. Let me tell you something, that's not a Computer support professionnal, that's a High School summer job.
Never noticed Drivers or motorcyclists hating each other.
We call drivers Cagers and we call cars Cages. Read any motorcycle forum, and you'll see like 5 threads per day about a "stupid cager" not seeing and almost killing or outright hurting/killing a motorcycling. In other words, if you haven't noticed, it's because you're a stupid cager and are probably about to kill some motorcyclist.
Sorry sparky, there are limitations to this when you are a Monopoly. Microsoft can't be compared to others because no one else is in the same position that they are. So yes, it can be "not fair" for them to exploit their OS monopoly to promote other products while it's plenty fair for Apple or Google to do it.
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Geez. The OpenGroup is the owner of the UNIX Trademark. They get to decide what is and what isn't UNIX. The certification cost + testsuite decides that. If you can't pay or can't pass or both, you aren't Unix, exactly the situation which Linux is in and you can't call yourself UNIX. You'd think after numerous posts on this very subject people would know a thing or two about it now.
Everything I just said I already said, either you're trolling for attention or you're really clueless.
You missed the point! CNet and PC World seems to be very much just reproducing Microsoft's marketing material, just like they did when Vista came out.
Are you even surprised by that ? CNet and PC World are the biggest Microsoft shills of them all. They've been doing this since the beginning of times.
I'll say it again, pre-release Hype of a new Windows release is always like this. Windows 95 Betas, RCs, Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows 2000, Windows XP... always the same story : "Best ever release of Windows yet! Stable! Fast!". Then reality hits and everyone finds out the new release is more bloated than the last. A few useful features were added, some useful features were changed into unusefulness and generally people start to say they miss the old version. Some go back. A few years later, when hardware specs have changed enough, the new release is ailed as the best Windows ever, the next one won't be as good, then the pre-release hype begins, and there we go again.
I know the Microsofties on here don't like to hear it but that's how it is. Every. Time. Windows XP was ridiculed on release, it was called bloated, heavy and fisher pricey. People stuck with Windows 2000 for productivity and with Windows 98 for gaming. Now you'd be hard pressed to find anyone would doesn't just love Windows XP, "it's the bestest evAr!".
Uh, it's easy, you're a Monopoly when you pull crap like that, and your customers actually go along with it, because it would be suicide for them not to. Imagine for a second, Microsoft saying to Dell : "You sell a Windows license with every PC/server you ship and you never sell pre-load another OS or we revoke your right to sell Windows at all". Dell then shows them the finger. Would Dell still be in business 2 months later selling PCs running Ubuntu ?
What was wrong about what he said ? OS X is a Unix variant, certified as UNIX 03 (since 10.5). Yes, it is built on a Mach kernel and uses BSD userland tools. But you know what, your facts and his facts weren't contradictions.
I don't know how you got Insightful. The OpenGroup, in the process of certifying something as Unix compliant and thus be able to use the Unix trademark, issues a testsuite which must compile and run successfully. One part of this test suite is POSIX compliance. Linux wouldn't pass this. As such, it would never be able to use the Trademark. So no, you are wrong, they aren't distinct at all, they are very related.
Linux is not Unix. It's a close approximation. For one, the base APIs are not fully POSIX compliant. Right there is a big hurdle to being Unix. If someone were to pony up the cash for certification (RedHat, Novell, Cannonical), there are issues yet to be fixed before it can be called UNIX, so it's not just a question of certifying it.
In the real world and for anti-trust legislation, you aren't required to have 100% market share to have a monopoly. The fact is, Microsoft were found to have one, and they aren't in a much different position now, as far as Windows installed based goes.
Call it naivete, and I'll just call you a conspiracy nut. I discuss facts, not fiction. Until someone comes forward with proof that they cache NXDOMAIN responses longer than they should, then it's not worth starting foaming at the mouth about it.
Also, let's be clear, in no way am I advocating that what they are doing is right. It's a blatent violation of the spec and I am against that, I was just explaining to the OP that NXDOMAIN aren't cached forever and as such, he wouldn't lose traffic that he would have had anyway with his hypothetical scenario.
A roadblock is significant, this isn't. I would call this more a bump in the road, a "we'll cross that line when we get there" sort of thing.
ECUs don't have DRM on them, stop being ridiculous. You can reflash the base maps on a stock ECU for most cars with no problems (cars people bothered to reverse engineer). Where it becomes illegal is not because of the DMCA, but because of emission laws. Basically, modifying exhaust and injection systems will usually result in higher emissions. Replacement ECUs are listed as offroad only because they are usually installed in cars that do not pass emissions anymore. This is especially true of California (a lot of engine modifications are 49 states legal... guess why.)
I doubt very much that it was a roadblock in the first place. You have a lot of to do before drugs, especially harder drugs become legal for general consumption like Alcohol is. One of those being to convince all the "Think of the children" people like MADD to step back on some of their issues.
How did this ever get +5 ? Seriously, if you register a non-existant domain, they won't hi-jack you. First, there's this thing called TTL on requests, when a DNS server caches a response from an authoritative source, it is not permanent. It has a Time to Live, defined in the Start of Authority in the zone on the master server or on the entry itself. So after a while, the DNS server will query the authoritative source again to make sure its answer is still correct and up to date. This is also implemented for NXDOMAIN queries, as defined in RFC2308. Section 3 is specific that NXDOMAIN queries should also return the SOA and that the receiving cache is to use the minimum TTL (the last value in the SOA). The default on this is 3600 seconds, or you guessed it, 1 hour. Since your domain will take 24-48 hours to show up on the ccTLDs or gTLDs anyhow, 1 hour isn't going to make or break anything as far as caching a NXDOMAIN answer and anyway, you wouldn't have gotten that traffic to begin with.
Instead of expecting the answer in the summary or article, you could, you know, look it up. That's if you have access to the Internet or something, I hear there's lots of information on that network.
Uh ? You can upgrade IOS using the bootstrap program to load a new version from TFTP. It couldn't be easier to install a new OS unto a Cisco router/switch. Perhaps you mean that no one makes a general purpose OS for these devices ? No, because why would I want to run Linux when IOS does the job 10x better. For smaller Linksys based routers, you can change out VxWorks for Linux using things like dd-wrt or OpenWRT or Tomate. Again, it's changeable. The guy who said you need a HD is a dumb ass, and frankly, you're not much better.
You obviously need to look up the definition of Socialism. Dictatorship and Authoritarism are not necessarily Socialism. Maybe you need to read 1984 again because until you do, your sig makes you look like an idiot.
Coming in the future ? It's already been done, and it's going to keep being done. This is nothing new and short of not buying games with ads or product placement, good luck getting rid of it.
Or they do a differed search for the licensed words and apply the royalties after the fact. Why would they need to find the article in real time ? They can just batch up requests and process them when there's less requests or on another system completely.
Sounds like your typical University student job then. Happy pappy ? The fact is, if you're doing Professional Computer Support at the University level, you will have package management, standardized purchasing contracts and better things to do with your time then manually install each Windows.
Unattended installs on standardized hardware with some package management for customization will turn a 3 hour sitting in front of the computer into 5 minutes pushing buttons and 3 hours with the computer installing itself. We have a moderate sized organisation (22,000 employees) and guess what, nothing is done by hand and no 2 PCs have exactly the same software on them (different needs for different departments).
That's the difference between people that know what they are doing, and high school summer jobs. Your boss would probably greatly benefit from you putting in place these measures, even though it might mean you'd be out of work at the end of the day.
(PS: The Preview window is stripping all line-breaks from my comment. Hopefully the posted comment is more readable than what I'm seeing. Using Opera 9.64, Win XP Pro SP2)
(PS: You're using HTML Formatted instead of Plain old text. In HTML, line breaks are just whitespace and as such ignored. You need to use the <br> tag in order to perform line breaks. Your browser and OS have nothing to do with it)
Notepad, Calc and Solitaire don't provide a level of control over other technologies and don't promote vendor lock-in if they are dominant, like Internet Explorer or Media Player does (patent encumbered, undocumented media formats that lock you to Windows to listen to music, watch movies). That is why no one gives a rats ass about them and it was pretty obvious to a normal person who understands these issues. I guess you're "special".
Makes it sound like "if(Opera)" to me if every other browser was working. Especially since Opera was one of the first browsers to have Agent spoofing and you could make everything work by spoofing as Internet Explorer.
No, everyone rewriting history and trying to say what happened didn't actually happen is a shill. Guess why ? Because it benefits their employer to say things like "Internet Explorer dominated based on merit, it is the best browser" or "Windows isn't a Monopoly at all, people have choice and they choose Windows" or "OEMs never were forced into bundling Windows, they gave the consumer what he wants"... Etc... Etc...
I don't care if you personally like Internet Explorer and want to discuss its merits while not ignoring that it was shoved down everyone's throat, that Microsoft were convicted for it, twice, and that it resulted in a stunted growth for Web Technologies as Microsoft dominated and tried to extend and extinguish it. If you do admit to what actually happened but still like Internet Explorer, I won't call you a shill.
Lots of computers that are different ? So you're saying you're a "Computer support professionnal" in a retail environnement, working on people's PCs and either building systems for a mom and pop shop or doing the Geek Squad thing. Let me tell you something, that's not a Computer support professionnal, that's a High School summer job.
Never noticed Drivers or motorcyclists hating each other.
We call drivers Cagers and we call cars Cages. Read any motorcycle forum, and you'll see like 5 threads per day about a "stupid cager" not seeing and almost killing or outright hurting/killing a motorcycling. In other words, if you haven't noticed, it's because you're a stupid cager and are probably about to kill some motorcyclist.
They should be able to do what they want with it
Sorry sparky, there are limitations to this when you are a Monopoly. Microsoft can't be compared to others because no one else is in the same position that they are. So yes, it can be "not fair" for them to exploit their OS monopoly to promote other products while it's plenty fair for Apple or Google to do it.