Yeah, and that's one of the attitudes that keeps me far away from Macs.
<rant style="frustration-level: deep">
Macs have been torture to use, more so that any other platform I've ever worked on:
"An error of type 1 has occured" no memory protection until OSX. What were they thinking? Losing your work is very user friendly
To eject/umount a disk, drag it to the trash! I've seen Human Computer Interaction "experts" trying to defend this as good design. Talk about tortured logic...
Have you ever tried using that hockey puck iMac mouse? RSI within a week, I promise!
Good interface design goes deep, I agree. Somebody go out and shoot the Quicktime player designers. In fact, any of those "brushed metal" interfaces are monsters!
Two words: "Apple keyboards". I celebrate the birthday of my IBM M-Series keyboard, thanking the higher powers I don't have to kill my hands on a Mac keyboard.
Floppy disks. Somtimes the Mac will spit it out, sometimes it will fail to recognise the floppy at all (hello paperclip), sometimes it will not recognise the format any more. No wonder they abandoned floppies; they couldn't make them work.
I could go on and on, but you get the picture... I'm not claiming Gnome (2.2) and KDE (3.1) are perfect, but the ****** arrogance of Mac users is
soooooo annoying (and largely unfounded).
The Mac has made me throw my hands up in disgust and disbelief more times than I care to remember. How many times I've heard Mac users say "Of course it crashes, you're trying to do way too many things at once...", when all I'm doing is having a few browser windows open, a text editor and an MP3 player.
</rant>
In the end, I'll not use a Mac because I'm not using a non-free (as in speech) OS. For this I have my own motivations. The snobbish arrogance of Mac users, however, just keeps on surprising me each time.
With all this caffeine I'm having trouble recognizing it.
Patching a MS server is IMHO of the worst experiences a sysadmin can go through. Patches and service packs contain many undisclosed "fixes" and changes to (often) many separate systems. You install them with MS basically telling you: "Trust us, we know what we're doing". Invariably, the system has to be rebooted, leading to downtime. Changes are often irreversible. It is an absolute nightmare.
My systems only require the odd:
apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
or
up2date -u
Depending on the distribution. Actually I could do without the up2date on Red Hat, since apt4rpm rocks, but I like having all information/management of my desktops and servers available through Red Hat Network.
The only time I need to reboot is when a kernel is updated, but it is completly optional, as the old kernel+modules are still available and the system will run just fine without rebooting.
Deary me, this guy is sooooooo bitter. He sounds like the old guys in the park complaining and whining all the time.
He is also wrong. Some examples:
apt4rpm is to RPM's what apt is to DEB's. There are no competing systems. Do your research.
If you think RedHat 8 sucks, go have a beer with Mosfet, I bet you'd get along like a house on fire. Don't use it as an excuse to diss GStreamer.
Oh, by the way, GStreamer is coming along great.
From the homepage of Xine: if you want a native Gnome2 media player, use totem. I use and love that player.
Being able to change the aspect ratio is obviously something I never wanted on an anamorphic display
Calling people "fuctards" and "Fucking Morons" is a great way to make your point
Ogle plays DVD's. You are complaining it plays DVD's fairly well. Exactly what part of that do you not understand? No, it doesn't do the dishes
Oh, and you know why video on Linux is hard?
Talk to Jon Lech Johansen about it, if he doesn't get sent to jail for the rest of his life.
Ok, that's about the content of the main article. Time for some cheap shots:
Mozilla started to become usable around the time you left. Go figure. Judging by your negativity, I'm starting to understand why.
Gee I want to use a Mac. Gee, there's no Emacs. Gee there is Emacs if I install X. Gee I have an dogmatic hatred of X. Gee I guess I can't switch to Mac. You sound like one of those, "I'd like switch to Linux, but there is no Word for Linux so I can't switch". Pffffff, boring....
I'm happy for you that you're that positive about EDE.
The screenshots are fairly horrific looking. The only things that look half-decent are the gnome icons I came across.
It may be superior, but ugliness goes straight to bone (in my case at least). If I recall, I was so disgusted with the QT "digital number" widget that I had a hard time seeing the better parts of QT. It still haunts me; "The horrrroorrrrrrr!!!!!"
Thing is, I saw those cartoons when I was about 12. Since I'm not a native english speaker, I never listened to the lyrics properly. "Robots in the sky" and "Robots in disguise" are fairly close phonetically. I guess that must have been the reason it stuck in my mind like this.
I've looked at the screenshots; had some designers look at the screenshots.
It looks hideous! If you want to be taken seriously, have a look around at other GUI operating systems. This reminds me of a rework of the original 1985 Amiga interface with mabled widgets. Definitely not good enough.
(on a positive note, the Amiga had a pretty cool OS for the rest, so the OS may be fairly neat once they fix the UI look;-) )
"IMHO documents that completely rely on ECMAScript are inherently broken anyway."
IMHO you are right, but:
What happens when you provide an alternative navigation if the browser doesn't support or use ECMAScript?
That's right, your code is fooled into using the DHTML version because everything seems just hunky dorey. It's really hard to test every step of the way if you're not producing some ECMAScript error.
One of the websites I helped build is broken in 1.2 (just noticed it yesterday). This was working fine in 1.2b, as well as in a homebuilt CVS version somewhere in the cycle leading up to 1.2.
I think a "Release Candidate" should have been put out, which when tested for a while should have become 1.2 final without any further changes.
Mac fans are going to hate me for this, but my old AMD K6-2 400 wasn't using much more than 7-10% cpu on MP3s. So what's up, is the iBook really *that* slow?
Although I quite like the Xserve machines, I still think they're overpriced.
We got a similarly configured x86 1U server a few months ago (256Mb PC133, 60 Gb 7200 RPM IDE, ASUS Mb , PIII 1GHz, CDROM + floppy) for under $1000 (US).
Admittedly, this is a no-name machine, but all the parts are from reliable manufacturers.
Our VALinux, Dual PIII 800Mhz, 512Mb ECC, 2 x SCSI 9Gb, Dual Ethernet, Intel 44GX Mb, etc... machines from two years ago (!) were about $3000, but those are FAR sweeter machines.
Because you can now run Linux on the Xbox, the mod-chip makers actually have a better chance in the legal squabbles.
The mod-chip becomes a "reverse-engineering" product, with verifyable "non-infringing" use.
I.e. since running Linux on an Xbox is perfectly legal, and you need a mod-chip to make it happen, the mod-chip manufacturer gets some legal protection, since it is not only used for "illegal" purposes.
P.S. IANAL, please Fla^H^H^HCorrect me if I'm wrong.
That's quite funny actually! Mod the parent up, someone.
If you weren't being funny (just in case), I guess a bugzilla system in production doesn't like being slashdotted. Kind of slows the work down a bit...
The SBLive is supported and detected in RH7.2 and higher (maybe even in 7.1, I can't remember). Sure, it uses the standard kernel driver, which doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the ALSA and the more complete open source OSS drivers, but it works perfectly. If you need AC3 digital passthrough, you can download+install the other drivers, but for most users the SBLive just "works".
Under Win2K I was making a Multimedia Production machine, with firewire, video capture, DVD, 16 channel simultaneous analog disk recording, etc. To get the DVD software to do audio playback, I had to use a DirectSound compatible sound card, so I used a SBLive!.
First of all, an SBLive! is NOT detected by Win2K. You have to install drivers for it. After installing the drivers and rebooting it wouldn't come up. It had cost me a day to get windows and all the drivers for all the esoteric hardware installed on this machine, and I was left with a ruined machine. So much for a user-friendly experience.
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Someone mod the parent up for humor!
Yeah, and that's one of the attitudes that keeps me far away from Macs.
<rant style="frustration-level: deep">
Macs have been torture to use, more so that any other platform I've ever worked on:
- "An error of type 1 has occured" no memory protection until OSX. What were they thinking? Losing your work is very user friendly
- To eject/umount a disk, drag it to the trash! I've seen Human Computer Interaction "experts" trying to defend this as good design. Talk about tortured logic...
- Have you ever tried using that hockey puck iMac mouse? RSI within a week, I promise!
- Good interface design goes deep, I agree. Somebody go out and shoot the Quicktime player designers. In fact, any of those "brushed metal" interfaces are monsters!
- Two words: "Apple keyboards". I celebrate the birthday of my IBM M-Series keyboard, thanking the higher powers I don't have to kill my hands on a Mac keyboard.
- Floppy disks. Somtimes the Mac will spit it out, sometimes it will fail to recognise the floppy at all (hello paperclip), sometimes it will not recognise the format any more. No wonder they abandoned floppies; they couldn't make them work.
I could go on and on, but you get the picture... I'm not claiming Gnome (2.2) and KDE (3.1) are perfect, but the ****** arrogance of Mac users is soooooo annoying (and largely unfounded).The Mac has made me throw my hands up in disgust and disbelief more times than I care to remember. How many times I've heard Mac users say "Of course it crashes, you're trying to do way too many things at once...", when all I'm doing is having a few browser windows open, a text editor and an MP3 player.
</rant>
In the end, I'll not use a Mac because I'm not using a non-free (as in speech) OS. For this I have my own motivations. The snobbish arrogance of Mac users, however, just keeps on surprising me each time.
ROFL!!!!!!
Good point....
You are being sarcastic here, are you not?
With all this caffeine I'm having trouble recognizing it.
Patching a MS server is IMHO of the worst experiences a sysadmin can go through. Patches and service packs contain many undisclosed "fixes" and changes to (often) many separate systems. You install them with MS basically telling you: "Trust us, we know what we're doing". Invariably, the system has to be rebooted, leading to downtime. Changes are often irreversible. It is an absolute nightmare.
My systems only require the odd:
apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
or
up2date -u
Depending on the distribution. Actually I could do without the up2date on Red Hat, since apt4rpm rocks, but I like having all information/management of my desktops and servers available through Red Hat Network.
The only time I need to reboot is when a kernel is updated, but it is completly optional, as the old kernel+modules are still available and the system will run just fine without rebooting.
Oh, and you know why video on Linux is hard? Talk to Jon Lech Johansen about it, if he doesn't get sent to jail for the rest of his life.
Ok, that's about the content of the main article. Time for some cheap shots:
- Mozilla started to become usable around the time you left. Go figure. Judging by your negativity, I'm starting to understand why.
- Gee I want to use a Mac. Gee, there's no Emacs. Gee there is Emacs if I install X. Gee I have an dogmatic hatred of X. Gee I guess I can't switch to Mac. You sound like one of those, "I'd like switch to Linux, but there is no Word for Linux so I can't switch". Pffffff, boring....
Man, stop whining and get a life......I'm happy for you that you're that positive about EDE.
The screenshots are fairly horrific looking. The only things that look half-decent are the gnome icons I came across.
It may be superior, but ugliness goes straight to bone (in my case at least). If I recall, I was so disgusted with the QT "digital number" widget that I had a hard time seeing the better parts of QT. It still haunts me; "The horrrroorrrrrrr!!!!!"
True of course, duh....
Thing is, I saw those cartoons when I was about 12. Since I'm not a native english speaker, I never listened to the lyrics properly. "Robots in the sky" and "Robots in disguise" are fairly close phonetically. I guess that must have been the reason it stuck in my mind like this.
"robots in the sky"
Prior art?
That's great news! Then please TOTALLY reskin EVERYTHING. ;-)
I've looked at the screenshots; had some designers look at the screenshots.
;-) )
It looks hideous! If you want to be taken seriously, have a look around at other GUI operating systems. This reminds me of a rework of the original 1985 Amiga interface with mabled widgets. Definitely not good enough.
(on a positive note, the Amiga had a pretty cool OS for the rest, so the OS may be fairly neat once they fix the UI look
"IMHO documents that completely rely on ECMAScript are inherently broken anyway."
IMHO you are right, but:
What happens when you provide an alternative navigation if the browser doesn't support or use ECMAScript?
That's right, your code is fooled into using the DHTML version because everything seems just hunky dorey. It's really hard to test every step of the way if you're not producing some ECMAScript error.
That's actually not entirely true.
One of the websites I helped build is broken in 1.2 (just noticed it yesterday). This was working fine in 1.2b, as well as in a homebuilt CVS version somewhere in the cycle leading up to 1.2.
I think a "Release Candidate" should have been put out, which when tested for a while should have become 1.2 final without any further changes.
Mac fans are going to hate me for this, but my old AMD K6-2 400 wasn't using much more than 7-10% cpu on MP3s. So what's up, is the iBook really *that* slow?
Although I quite like the Xserve machines, I still think they're overpriced.
We got a similarly configured x86 1U server a few months ago (256Mb PC133, 60 Gb 7200 RPM IDE, ASUS Mb , PIII 1GHz, CDROM + floppy) for under $1000 (US).
Admittedly, this is a no-name machine, but all the parts are from reliable manufacturers.
Our VALinux, Dual PIII 800Mhz, 512Mb ECC, 2 x SCSI 9Gb, Dual Ethernet, Intel 44GX Mb, etc... machines from two years ago (!) were about $3000, but those are FAR sweeter machines.
subtle, no
;-)
correct, yes
and no, I'm thankfully not unemployed
$98000 - $2000 = $96000
That means the lawyers cost $96000.... $96000.... 96000 M.F. Dollars!
Ok, that does it, I'm sending in my application to Yale right now!!!
Because you can now run Linux on the Xbox, the mod-chip makers actually have a better chance in the legal squabbles.
The mod-chip becomes a "reverse-engineering" product, with verifyable "non-infringing" use.
I.e. since running Linux on an Xbox is perfectly legal, and you need a mod-chip to make it happen, the mod-chip manufacturer gets some legal protection, since it is not only used for "illegal" purposes.
P.S. IANAL, please Fla^H^H^HCorrect me if I'm wrong.
That's quite funny actually! Mod the parent up, someone.
If you weren't being funny (just in case), I guess a bugzilla system in production doesn't like being slashdotted. Kind of slows the work down a bit...
Gee, and I thought "Custom shell command keybindings" was the thing to win Linux newbies over. Darn, my grandma won't be using RH now, I guess.
Cool, I'm one of the 3 ;-)
"Lockheed Martin has to figure out how to dissipate 900 kilowatts of heat."
;-)
No problem, my overclocked Athlon produces about that amount of heat. Just buy a big CPU cooler
"Incredibly smart" guys at kernel hacking tend to be incredibly stupid/naive when it comes to things like contracts.
Amen to that! Couln't have said it better myself!
Another prime example - Sound Blaster live card
Good example!
Here is a little story/comparison:
The SBLive is supported and detected in RH7.2 and higher (maybe even in 7.1, I can't remember). Sure, it uses the standard kernel driver, which doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the ALSA and the more complete open source OSS drivers, but it works perfectly. If you need AC3 digital passthrough, you can download+install the other drivers, but for most users the SBLive just "works".
Under Win2K I was making a Multimedia Production machine, with firewire, video capture, DVD, 16 channel simultaneous analog disk recording, etc. To get the DVD software to do audio playback, I had to use a DirectSound compatible sound card, so I used a SBLive!.
First of all, an SBLive! is NOT detected by Win2K. You have to install drivers for it. After installing the drivers and rebooting it wouldn't come up. It had cost me a day to get windows and all the drivers for all the esoteric hardware installed on this machine, and I was left with a ruined machine. So much for a user-friendly experience.
security ? XP with no services is secure enough behind a corporate firewall
<sarcasm>Sure, I only run IE, Outlook, Word and MSN messenger, so I have nothing to be afraid of</sarcasm>