I'm not sure what the point of this story is. Were we supposed to be surprised about this? Or outraged or something? Was this supposed to be a revelation? It sounds more like standard investigation tactics.
The obvious example is that the Bill of Rights states that all men are considered equal...
The Bill of Rights does not say that, and it's doubtful it would have been ratified by slave-owning states if it did. That is a phrase from the Declaration of Independence, which can get away with it because that document has no legal weight. Though Thomas Jefferson still owned slaves, even as he described slavery as abhorrent. George Washington owned slaves as well, though he too pined for a time when men wouldn't own slaves. Strange bunch.
If you're trying to say that restricting missile launchers and grenades is not unconstitutional, strictly speaking, why not just say that? I'm sure you could come up with a nice, not-completely-arbitrary explanation of what makes a musket different from a rocket launcher within the framework of "arms".
Here's one from former justice Scalia:
“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. Miller said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those ‘in common use at the time.’ 307 U.S., at 179, 59 S.Ct. 816. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’” [... ] “It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service — M-16 rifles and the like — may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause [ 'a well-regulated militia' ] and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.”
2) Venezuela is what happens when faux strongman demagogues start prattling on about "President for Life" and "maybe we should give that a try" without getting smacked down.
I'm curious and fearful about what China will look like in 20 years. It's turned out very poorly for Russia and North Korea, and I don't like the idea of China going down the same path again. They dug themselves out of that hole once, now they're jumping into it again.
You are correct, like all Communist countries, Venezuela is has an authoritarian government. Obviously, authoritarianism doesn't require Communism, but Communist countries have authoritarian governments.
Try say "fuck" on day tv and see how that goes. Self-censorship is still censorship.
I don't know if it's really self-censorship if any lapse of it is punished by government action. If they allow a 'fuck' to go through, the stations face fines from the FCC.
If the cops think you're getting too uppity, they'll just drop a bomb on your house. [wikipedia.org] And nowadays they wont even have to risk a helicopter to do it, they'll just use a drone.
Maybe, but that particularly incident went VERY poorly. I'm pretty sure that especially in today's environment heads would roll if such a thing were to happen again. They got away with that in 1985, definitely not in 2018. But today's SWAT teams don't need to use such tactics. They can use armored vehicles to push down walls without worrying about retaliation.
In more recent times, while I disagreed with their cause, it can be argued that the Bundy stand-off in Nevada was just such an action. The cattle in question are still grazing on those lands today, and all those who refused to accept a plea deal have been acquitted of all charges.
Yeah, but the case wasn't determined by an armed standoff, it was determined the same way it usually is without armed standoffs: in the court system, in front of a judge.
There was also a 2016 standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, and that went fairly poorly, and though Ammon and Ryan Bundy were acquitted of charges, several others went to jail.
Also, if they weren't white, all the Bundys would have been six feet deep for a few years now.
Oh, so because Democrats don't agree that the 2nd Amendment should allow any and all types of firearms they have no respect for it???? I have a driver's license, but that doesn't allow me to do whatever I want with a car.
In the United States, legally, ownership of a gun is a right, but a driver's license is a privilege.
You mean the originalists who were clearly intending that the right be reserved to the people?
People, collective via regulated militias.
Both the originalists and the courts over time have ruled that the Second Amendment did not mean things like the national guard. The United States was founded on the notion that the entire private citizenry was the country's defense force. We've moved a bit beyond that now, so it might be time for an amendment.
Fuck the federalist papers. It's one set of opinions from one set of elitist proto-wingnuts, nothing more, nothing less. They aren't words handed down by Alan Rickman from god herself.
That's fine, but those are the men who crafted our system of government. If you want to know what they meant, it's a good resource. You don't have to agree with their conclusions, but the solution is to change our laws, not ignore them.
Don't you think it's weird that they would dive into a rewrite and not manage to separate out the UI display into its own modules? I'm not even a developer and this is almost the first thing that comes to mind -- classic display, new display, mobile option, and so on.
Weird, sure, but it's possible that when they saw the Beta reaction, that they let go of the entire team.
I work for a company where something like that happened over a decade ago. The project was scrapped, and the old project code survived. I'm sure by this point all that code was gone, but it was slowly replaced rather than all-at-once replaced with a flashy new rebranded product. The problem was that the newer code, while newer, was also appreciably slower in an application where execution speed was one of the selling points. Eventually it was decided that they would, when they could, migrate some of the newer features they really wanted into the existing codebase.
Again, not the best of places, but sourceforge was having the same issues. I guess they assumed people who used slashdot also followed sourceforge (not true for me)
Most of us don't follow either and have little interest (I have no interest in following anyone on Twitter). But we do know that when a site is down and they have an official Twitter, then that's the place to go to get news that can't go onto the site itself.
A simple, "Hang tight, we got hardware issues" would have worked wonders.
. With all the ownership changes, I thought you may have been shut down.
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I mean, just a Twitter post would have helped too. Slashdot's official Twitter just had an automated feed of the most recent (now two days old) Slashdot stories.
One of my head-desk moments back in the Beta days was a discussion I had with a Slashdot dev -- or someone who claimed to be, and I had no reason to disbelieve him since he seemed to know what he was talking about. The Ars Technica sub-headline of "change for change's sake" was pretty accurate, as this fellow was saying that websites absolutely had to go through redesigns regularly, otherwise users would get "bored" and leave. Creating something better wasn't the primary requirement as much as making something 'different' was. Honestly, that attitude was a stunning indictment of the users and UX development attitudes as well.
It might stop you if those guys are crazy enough to spend the rest of their lives stalking and harassing you for it.
I've been on the receiving end of an APK stalking. I didn't really mind that much, but I imagine quite a few people could be put out if they were looking for replies to their comments and all they saw were his comment spam. I think having that type of response might result in a "chilling effect" to valid moderation, just like having people know how you voted would affect your votes (And is one reason why polling can be so volatile).
I think this would actually encourage fewer discussions and enforce an echo chamber because people with an unpopular opinion would be penalized.
As someone who moderates as often as I get points and mods posts both up and down, I have no problems finding tons of posts which are not simply "unpopular opinions," but are truly trying to poison the well. If they're flames and personal attacks, I mod those down no matter who the target is. If you're (general 'you') here to be extremely hostile and 'stick it' to someone who disagrees with you, then you deserve the -1, Troll/Flamebait. Otherwise I'll usually leave the topic alone except for the really Insightful/Informative/Funny opinion.
Occasionally I'll find a post that's factually incorrect (and obviously so) and I'll give it an overrated mod (especially if it's been highly modded), but that is far, far more rare. If someone posts a correction that is, in fact, factual, then I prefer instead to mod that up as Informative.
I always read at threshold 0 because I think ACs can sometimes come up with good points that deserve modding up as well, and how could expect someone else to do that job if I don't as well? But in the last... I don't know, the last five years, the amount of shit-posting, the sheer volume of nonsensical vitriol has gone through the roof, and I'm finding ACs and nearly all discussions they're involved with to be pointless. It's like someone dumping in the community pool -- I SHOULD be able to swim them there, but someone's fouled it up, and my wants aren't going to make it better. Over time, I think I've gotten browbeaten to the point where I want to browse at +1 or even +2 to escape the hordes that have no interest in actual discussion, who just want to see the place burned down.
So I think you're doing a valuable service as well.
If something is factually wrong, you're better off replying in comment to discredit it. Otherwise the conspiracy nuts will think you're hiding the facts and moderate it even higher
But then you lose all of your moderations from that story unless you go full AC.
Unfortunately, I think we also live in a post-facts world when it comes to online discussions. Very few people either on the left or the right are willing to challenge their own conceptions of the truth, especially when it comes to dogma that their echo-chamber news sources have indoctrinated.
Nobody's blacklisting you. Why are you so angry? Take it out on me if you'd like, I can handle it
Don't bother. Slashdot attracts a number of hokey conspiracy theorists who think that if their shit doesn't get modded up to +2 at the minimum, it must be some editor conspiracy to deny their free speech rights.
by definition, "snowflake" is a derogatory aimed at the left. there is no such thing as a rightist snowflake.
Well, the original definition was an insult hurled at someone who thought he was precious and special, but was not. The term was most visibly popularized by Fight Club. It's pretty much used as a put-down for any complainer.
I don't think it's ever been owned by a particularly deep-pocketed outfit or one that has thought it's worth investing major money in for an overhaul. There was "beta", but as it turned out, fuck beta, as they said.
I think a lot of money went into the beta. It was probably supposed to modernize Slashdot's innards. But the big problem there was that not only was the code base being modernized, but an entire redesign of the interface was also rolled into the project, as well as a change to Slashdot's core mission. That last change produced most of the Fuck Beta hostility.. But I suspect that when beta crashed and burned, those code rewrites went away as well since they were all rolled up together.
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I'm not sure what the point of this story is.
Were we supposed to be surprised about this? Or outraged or something? Was this supposed to be a revelation? It sounds more like standard investigation tactics.
The obvious example is that the Bill of Rights states that all men are considered equal...
The Bill of Rights does not say that, and it's doubtful it would have been ratified by slave-owning states if it did. That is a phrase from the Declaration of Independence, which can get away with it because that document has no legal weight. Though Thomas Jefferson still owned slaves, even as he described slavery as abhorrent. George Washington owned slaves as well, though he too pined for a time when men wouldn't own slaves. Strange bunch.
If you're trying to say that restricting missile launchers and grenades is not unconstitutional, strictly speaking, why not just say that? I'm sure you could come up with a nice, not-completely-arbitrary explanation of what makes a musket different from a rocket launcher within the framework of "arms".
Here's one from former justice Scalia:
2) Venezuela is what happens when faux strongman demagogues start prattling on about "President for Life" and "maybe we should give that a try" without getting smacked down.
I'm curious and fearful about what China will look like in 20 years. It's turned out very poorly for Russia and North Korea, and I don't like the idea of China going down the same path again. They dug themselves out of that hole once, now they're jumping into it again.
Venezuela is an authoritarian government.
You are correct, like all Communist countries, Venezuela is has an authoritarian government. Obviously, authoritarianism doesn't require Communism, but Communist countries have authoritarian governments.
Try say "fuck" on day tv and see how that goes. Self-censorship is still censorship.
I don't know if it's really self-censorship if any lapse of it is punished by government action. If they allow a 'fuck' to go through, the stations face fines from the FCC.
If the cops think you're getting too uppity, they'll just drop a bomb on your house. [wikipedia.org] And nowadays they wont even have to risk a helicopter to do it, they'll just use a drone.
Maybe, but that particularly incident went VERY poorly. I'm pretty sure that especially in today's environment heads would roll if such a thing were to happen again. They got away with that in 1985, definitely not in 2018. But today's SWAT teams don't need to use such tactics. They can use armored vehicles to push down walls without worrying about retaliation.
In more recent times, while I disagreed with their cause, it can be argued that the Bundy stand-off in Nevada was just such an action. The cattle in question are still grazing on those lands today, and all those who refused to accept a plea deal have been acquitted of all charges.
Yeah, but the case wasn't determined by an armed standoff, it was determined the same way it usually is without armed standoffs: in the court system, in front of a judge.
There was also a 2016 standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, and that went fairly poorly, and though Ammon and Ryan Bundy were acquitted of charges, several others went to jail.
Also, if they weren't white, all the Bundys would have been six feet deep for a few years now.
Oh, so because Democrats don't agree that the 2nd Amendment should allow any and all types of firearms they have no respect for it???? I have a driver's license, but that doesn't allow me to do whatever I want with a car.
In the United States, legally, ownership of a gun is a right, but a driver's license is a privilege.
People, collective via regulated militias.
Both the originalists and the courts over time have ruled that the Second Amendment did not mean things like the national guard. The United States was founded on the notion that the entire private citizenry was the country's defense force. We've moved a bit beyond that now, so it might be time for an amendment.
Fuck the federalist papers. It's one set of opinions from one set of elitist proto-wingnuts, nothing more, nothing less. They aren't words handed down by Alan Rickman from god herself.
That's fine, but those are the men who crafted our system of government. If you want to know what they meant, it's a good resource. You don't have to agree with their conclusions, but the solution is to change our laws, not ignore them.
Don't you think it's weird that they would dive into a rewrite and not manage to separate out the UI display into its own modules? I'm not even a developer and this is almost the first thing that comes to mind -- classic display, new display, mobile option, and so on.
Weird, sure, but it's possible that when they saw the Beta reaction, that they let go of the entire team.
I work for a company where something like that happened over a decade ago. The project was scrapped, and the old project code survived. I'm sure by this point all that code was gone, but it was slowly replaced rather than all-at-once replaced with a flashy new rebranded product.
The problem was that the newer code, while newer, was also appreciably slower in an application where execution speed was one of the selling points. Eventually it was decided that they would, when they could, migrate some of the newer features they really wanted into the existing codebase.
...and Cultural Marxism just happened to my people at YouTube regarding jobs. Did you not read the fucking article?
A white guy didn't get hired and immediately says "well it's probably due to the unqualified blacks and mexicans they hired" without a shred of proof.
Anyone with any sense left with CmdrTaco.
And yet you're still here..
What's this? https://twitter.com/slashdot/s...
That is closing the barn doors AFTER the horses have run off.
Again, not the best of places, but sourceforge was having the same issues. I guess they assumed people who used slashdot also followed sourceforge (not true for me)
Most of us don't follow either and have little interest (I have no interest in following anyone on Twitter). But we do know that when a site is down and they have an official Twitter, then that's the place to go to get news that can't go onto the site itself.
A simple, "Hang tight, we got hardware issues" would have worked wonders.
.
With all the ownership changes, I thought you may have been shut down.
.
I mean, just a Twitter post would have helped too. Slashdot's official Twitter just had an automated feed of the most recent (now two days old) Slashdot stories.
One of my head-desk moments back in the Beta days was a discussion I had with a Slashdot dev -- or someone who claimed to be, and I had no reason to disbelieve him since he seemed to know what he was talking about. The Ars Technica sub-headline of "change for change's sake" was pretty accurate, as this fellow was saying that websites absolutely had to go through redesigns regularly, otherwise users would get "bored" and leave. Creating something better wasn't the primary requirement as much as making something 'different' was. Honestly, that attitude was a stunning indictment of the users and UX development attitudes as well.
It might stop you if those guys are crazy enough to spend the rest of their lives stalking and harassing you for it.
I've been on the receiving end of an APK stalking. I didn't really mind that much, but I imagine quite a few people could be put out if they were looking for replies to their comments and all they saw were his comment spam. I think having that type of response might result in a "chilling effect" to valid moderation, just like having people know how you voted would affect your votes (And is one reason why polling can be so volatile).
I think this would actually encourage fewer discussions and enforce an echo chamber because people with an unpopular opinion would be penalized.
As someone who moderates as often as I get points and mods posts both up and down, I have no problems finding tons of posts which are not simply "unpopular opinions," but are truly trying to poison the well. If they're flames and personal attacks, I mod those down no matter who the target is. If you're (general 'you') here to be extremely hostile and 'stick it' to someone who disagrees with you, then you deserve the -1, Troll/Flamebait. Otherwise I'll usually leave the topic alone except for the really Insightful/Informative/Funny opinion.
Occasionally I'll find a post that's factually incorrect (and obviously so) and I'll give it an overrated mod (especially if it's been highly modded), but that is far, far more rare. If someone posts a correction that is, in fact, factual, then I prefer instead to mod that up as Informative.
I always read at threshold 0 because I think ACs can sometimes come up with good points that deserve modding up as well, and how could expect someone else to do that job if I don't as well? But in the last... I don't know, the last five years, the amount of shit-posting, the sheer volume of nonsensical vitriol has gone through the roof, and I'm finding ACs and nearly all discussions they're involved with to be pointless. It's like someone dumping in the community pool -- I SHOULD be able to swim them there, but someone's fouled it up, and my wants aren't going to make it better. Over time, I think I've gotten browbeaten to the point where I want to browse at +1 or even +2 to escape the hordes that have no interest in actual discussion, who just want to see the place burned down.
So I think you're doing a valuable service as well.
If something is factually wrong, you're better off replying in comment to discredit it. Otherwise the conspiracy nuts will think you're hiding the facts and moderate it even higher
But then you lose all of your moderations from that story unless you go full AC.
Unfortunately, I think we also live in a post-facts world when it comes to online discussions. Very few people either on the left or the right are willing to challenge their own conceptions of the truth, especially when it comes to dogma that their echo-chamber news sources have indoctrinated.
Nobody's blacklisting you. Why are you so angry? Take it out on me if you'd like, I can handle it
Don't bother. Slashdot attracts a number of hokey conspiracy theorists who think that if their shit doesn't get modded up to +2 at the minimum, it must be some editor conspiracy to deny their free speech rights.
by definition, "snowflake" is a derogatory aimed at the left. there is no such thing as a rightist snowflake.
Well, the original definition was an insult hurled at someone who thought he was precious and special, but was not. The term was most visibly popularized by Fight Club. It's pretty much used as a put-down for any complainer.
I don't think APK uses emojis either. At least, I can't remember a time when he used one.
I don't think it's ever been owned by a particularly deep-pocketed outfit or one that has thought it's worth investing major money in for an overhaul. There was "beta", but as it turned out, fuck beta, as they said.
I think a lot of money went into the beta. It was probably supposed to modernize Slashdot's innards. But the big problem there was that not only was the code base being modernized, but an entire redesign of the interface was also rolled into the project, as well as a change to Slashdot's core mission. That last change produced most of the Fuck Beta hostility.. But I suspect that when beta crashed and burned, those code rewrites went away as well since they were all rolled up together.