"If the story is to be believed, the aides in question were not part of the federal government's spy agencies."
How could you possibly know that? Right, you can't.
Which, in a nutshell, describes the validity of your entire post. You make assertions that are not only not supported by evidence, by that CANNOT be supported by evidence, yet expect us to take you at your word.
"No one in their right mind would claim that having your family executed and financial ruins are equivalent. He meant, not doubt, identical in their effectiveness. "
Without addressing what I thought it meant, there is no way anyone could say that OP was clear with what he meant.
And I'd have to disagree, frankly, the OP most certainly DID make the comparison you claim no one in their right mind would make, right here
"If you replace the threat of physical violence with a threat of legal and financial ruin, they are virtually identical."
So, either OP is being intentionally inflammatory and hyperbolic, or OP is being intentionally inflammatory and hyperbolic in a different but just as inaccurate way.
"If you replace the threat of physical violence with a threat of legal and financial ruin, they are virtually identical."
I'm sorry, but whoever modded you up is a bigger twit than you are, which is saying a lot.
Please tell me the threat of legal and financial ruin that can be used which is equivalent to having your family executed in front of you.
It fascinates me how the hypocrites here rail against the Patriot Act and other laws being mis-applied, but because of your irrational hatred of MS, you ignore exactly the same kinds of abuses with RICO.
You're pathetic, and no amount of rationalization can change that, including ridiculous comparisons between physical violence (including DEATH) and civil legal trouble (which NEVER includes death).
And there it sits at +5.
The moderation system, and the people who use it this way, are a joke.
Of course it is, and your argument why it isn't demonstrates quite clearly why you're too stupid to have your opinion be considered.
"The statement "I don't care about You" is totally inconsistant with the demonstrable fact that you care enough about (him) to post a reply such that he hears your opinion"
HEY MORON. IF HIS ACTION WAS POSSIBLE FROM A NONAMERICAN, AND I REACTED THE SAME, THEN IT WOULD BE THE ACTION NOT THE INDIVIDUAL I CARED ABOUT.
It's what he did. I realize you're an imbecile, but get someone smarter than you to explain it. I'll wait.
Repeating things that you've been shown are wrong doesn't make you right, and coming up with convoluted ways to say "nuh uh" just makes you look even more ridiculous.
I suspect that's because once they decide on a number, they'll be shown that their number is actually lower than what "the rich" pay now, and they'll look silly.
"...and conveniently ignoring that the UK court judgement only criticised 9 (out of a large number) of specific claims made in the film"
For someone using their credibility as currency, 9 is 9 too many.
And I really like how people line up to talk about "only 9" as though that would be acceptable in any other context with.
Sorry guy, lying is lying, and some of those 9 things they knew were wrong before they released the film.
That makes them liars, regardless of the justification. It seems like a short step from "only 9, but they got the gist" to "only the general facts, but they got the gist" to "say whatever you need, as long as they get the gist".
"The OP said that things are "rapidly progressing" towards that level of tyranny."
Which is a comparison, "is like" is also a comparison, but apparently you're not smart enough to understand that.
"Apparently you, sir, are fucking blind"
No, I just have better reading comprehension than you. Not your fault really, intelligence is partially inherited, so it's your idiot parents combined with your idiot teachers that made you incapable of reading for comprehension above a third grade level.
"You can't leave with your money. Check with IRS, but I don't think they'll let you without filing forms and taxes and getting permission."
YES YOU CAN, and the fact that your would claim with certainty that it is otherwise, then say "I don't think" shows exactly how much you know about the topic.
"Denying ability to fly is for transportation like denying ability to buy food in a market is to eating."
Bullshit. The fact that you have to resort to an analogy between a necessity (food) and a luxury (airline travel) shows how far you had to twist reality to make if fit your moronic assumptions.
Yeah, but I said I don't care about YOU, not what YOU DID.
The distinction is difficult for idiots to grasp, which explains why you're having such a tough time.
"I'm just making the suggestion..."
I'm making the suggestion that you learn to read before you go out of your way to draw attention to what you think is an inconsistency, but what is in fact totally consistent and only draws attention to your lack of intellectual capability.
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"Everything else is just you complaining that you don't want to be bothered to make a sacrifice where there may not even be a payoff."
"but now I see from the Wikipedia article that resonance has nothing to do with it"
Did you read the whole article, because you seem to have missed this part,
"The wind-induced collapse occurred on November 7, 1940 at 11:00 AM(Pacific time), due partially to a physical phenomenon known as mechanical resonance."
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"If the story is to be believed, the aides in question were not part of the federal government's spy agencies."
How could you possibly know that? Right, you can't.
Which, in a nutshell, describes the validity of your entire post. You make assertions that are not only not supported by evidence, by that CANNOT be supported by evidence, yet expect us to take you at your word.
"I am questioning the claim that you have no care for the individual who caused it."
And I've explained why your "questioning" that is moronic.
As I said, if you need someone smarter, go get them, maybe they'll be able to prevent you from posting something idiotic again.
But I doubt it.
"Are we going round in circles?"
Not really, you're an imbecile. That has been my point for a while now, and you've been supporting it with every post.
"There are fates worse than death"
Like reading your well crafted, highly intelligent posts.
"No one in their right mind would claim that having your family executed and financial ruins are equivalent. He meant, not doubt, identical in their effectiveness. "
Without addressing what I thought it meant, there is no way anyone could say that OP was clear with what he meant.
And I'd have to disagree, frankly, the OP most certainly DID make the comparison you claim no one in their right mind would make, right here
"If you replace the threat of physical violence with a threat of legal and financial ruin, they are virtually identical."
So, either OP is being intentionally inflammatory and hyperbolic, or OP is being intentionally inflammatory and hyperbolic in a different but just as inaccurate way.
Either way OP is full of shit.
"And just to get back on track, you might want to look up the definition of "racketeering" before you spout off about abuse of the RICO act."
I have. This isn't it.
And you might want to bother to understan WHY the RICO act was instituted. It wasn't for this.
"do you really believe that shit is still as common as it was in the 20's and 30's? "
Do you really believe that using logical fallacies like you did there makes you look like anything other than the pathetic joke I said you were?
The comparison was stupid. Supporting a stupid comparison is even more stupid.
"If you replace the threat of physical violence with a threat of legal and financial ruin, they are virtually identical."
I'm sorry, but whoever modded you up is a bigger twit than you are, which is saying a lot.
Please tell me the threat of legal and financial ruin that can be used which is equivalent to having your family executed in front of you.
It fascinates me how the hypocrites here rail against the Patriot Act and other laws being mis-applied, but because of your irrational hatred of MS, you ignore exactly the same kinds of abuses with RICO.
You're pathetic, and no amount of rationalization can change that, including ridiculous comparisons between physical violence (including DEATH) and civil legal trouble (which NEVER includes death).
And there it sits at +5.
The moderation system, and the people who use it this way, are a joke.
"It is not totally consistent"
Of course it is, and your argument why it isn't demonstrates quite clearly why you're too stupid to have your opinion be considered.
"The statement "I don't care about You" is totally inconsistant with the demonstrable fact that you care enough about (him) to post a reply such that he hears your opinion"
HEY MORON. IF HIS ACTION WAS POSSIBLE FROM A NONAMERICAN, AND I REACTED THE SAME, THEN IT WOULD BE THE ACTION NOT THE INDIVIDUAL I CARED ABOUT.
It's what he did. I realize you're an imbecile, but get someone smarter than you to explain it. I'll wait.
Repeating things that you've been shown are wrong doesn't make you right, and coming up with convoluted ways to say "nuh uh" just makes you look even more ridiculous.
How empty and meaningless is your life that you get pissed at me for proving you wrong and track me down to use up all your mod points?
Like all fascists and cowards, you hide behind what little power you have.
Sadly for you, you're still a fucking idiot.
"There are no objective facts, just data."
.001 of a kilogram. Objective fact.
A gram is
Fuck off now.
"There are no 'objective facts'..."
I stopped reading there, as it was obvious you weren't going to say anything worth reading after that point.
Just saying this is worth a KITN, believing it deserves sterilization.
You are dumber than I could have imagined.
"You don't understand basic scientific debate and treat it like some petty argument where people are "right" and "wrong"."
Hmm, that's funny, I said nothing about the debate, and spoke only of objective fact. For which there is a "right" and "wrong".
With that in mind, I have to say, you're one of the people I talk about when I say "fucking idiot".
Keep making excuses, it seems to be all you're any good at.
"So, you're arguing it isn't easier for the people who already have computers?"
No, I'm not.
OOPS!
He won't answer that, they never do.
I suspect that's because once they decide on a number, they'll be shown that their number is actually lower than what "the rich" pay now, and they'll look silly.
"You're still making it harder for people without computers or internet access to vote."
Harder than showing up at a precinct and voting?
Exactly, no it isn't.
"before coming out with a lame spelling or grammar flame."
There's nothing lame about questioning the professionalism of a writer, part of which is their ability to compose their thoughts and ideas.
If the subject is serious enough for me to care about, it's serious enough for a blogger to bother with spelling and grammar.
"...and conveniently ignoring that the UK court judgement only criticised 9 (out of a large number) of specific claims made in the film"
For someone using their credibility as currency, 9 is 9 too many.
And I really like how people line up to talk about "only 9" as though that would be acceptable in any other context with.
Sorry guy, lying is lying, and some of those 9 things they knew were wrong before they released the film.
That makes them liars, regardless of the justification. It seems like a short step from "only 9, but they got the gist" to "only the general facts, but they got the gist" to "say whatever you need, as long as they get the gist".
"The OP most certainly did not say that"
Yes he did, you just don;'t like it.
"The OP said that things are "rapidly progressing" towards that level of tyranny."
Which is a comparison, "is like" is also a comparison, but apparently you're not smart enough to understand that.
"Apparently you, sir, are fucking blind"
No, I just have better reading comprehension than you. Not your fault really, intelligence is partially inherited, so it's your idiot parents combined with your idiot teachers that made you incapable of reading for comprehension above a third grade level.
"You can't leave with your money. Check with IRS, but I don't think they'll let you without filing forms and taxes and getting permission."
YES YOU CAN, and the fact that your would claim with certainty that it is otherwise, then say "I don't think" shows exactly how much you know about the topic.
"Denying ability to fly is for transportation like denying ability to buy food in a market is to eating."
Bullshit. The fact that you have to resort to an analogy between a necessity (food) and a luxury (airline travel) shows how far you had to twist reality to make if fit your moronic assumptions.
Don't have to, I've taken money out of the US a lot, for business reasons.
How about you bother to learn WTF you're trolling about before you post again and look like a fucking idiot?
"The working theory with these people is the Boiling frog syndrome."
Except the boiling frog thing is a myth in all aspects. But you're stupid and self assured, reality has nothing to do with what you think.
"You just said you didn't"
Yeah, but I said I don't care about YOU, not what YOU DID.
The distinction is difficult for idiots to grasp, which explains why you're having such a tough time.
"I'm just making the suggestion..."
I'm making the suggestion that you learn to read before you go out of your way to draw attention to what you think is an inconsistency, but what is in fact totally consistent and only draws attention to your lack of intellectual capability.
"Everything else is just you complaining that you don't want to be bothered to make a sacrifice where there may not even be a payoff."
Fixed that to make it accurately reflect reality.
"but now I see from the Wikipedia article that resonance has nothing to do with it"
Did you read the whole article, because you seem to have missed this part,
"The wind-induced collapse occurred on November 7, 1940 at 11:00 AM(Pacific time), due partially to a physical phenomenon known as mechanical resonance."
"No, we don't let you in."
Except we DO, and then we argue about whether or not to give you AMNESTY.
"You can leave, but not with your money."
Except you can, and this point is bullshit.
"You can leave..."
ANYTIME YOU WANT. Get in a car, get on a charter, fuck man WALK if it's that important to you.
Stop lying guy.
"No one says that the US, as it stands today, is like the tyranny of the USSR."
Um, except the OP.
Are you fucking blind, or just trolling?
"I think it's more your "I have low self esteem" mentality..."
Because I very much care about exploding stupid little assumptions people use to prop up their chauvinism.
See that quoted part? Yeah, that's the part you ignored in your rush to post a snide little jab.